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Message Subject Obama Disqualified By Original 13th Amendment
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Actually check out McCain, he is disqualified. born in some foreign country!!

actually he isnt, moron.....he was born at a us navy base in pananma, of 2 american parents....military bases and embassies are considered american sovereign territory, making mccain a native son of america....so a constitutional provision which forbade the election of foreign lawyers to office applies to all lawyers in this country??? i guess that will be news to all those lawyers holding office now...... if you dont like a candidate, fine, talk all the shit you like about his positions, record, personal life, all the reasons you dont like the idea of that person holding office, but spare me the idiotic attempts at showing why they should be forbidden from running......


Would you please show us all where in the Constitution
that US military bases in foreign countries is considered
to be US territory. An embassy, yes; but a military base,
no. Remember, the Founding Fathers had no intentions
of there ever being a need for US military bases in foreign lands.

And, yes, all American lawyers have their primary oath
of allegiance to the Temple BAR of the City of London.
Any subsequent oath taken becomes a 'non-oath, just as
the Kol Nidre in Talmudic law allows a Talmudist to
disavow any oath taken in the coming year. That makes
any oath taken by a lawyer-politician about of as much
value as a wet paper sack. And, another thread shows
wher 68 Congressmen have disavowed their oath of office
in voting recently for laws totally contrary to the Constitution.
You will find that most, if not all of these were lawyers.

The requirements for citizenship and the very definition thereof have changed since the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Congress first extended citizenship to children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, under the first naturalization law: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."[1]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

5. November 14, 1986 to Present
If at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens, and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.
[link to immigration.findlaw.com]

Three major candidates have sought the Presidency who were born outside the United States: Barry Goldwater (ran in 1964) was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory, George Romney (ran in 1968) was born in Mexico to U.S. parents, and John McCain (ran in 2000 and running in 2008) was born in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Barry Goldwater's case among these three is unique in that although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully incorporated territory of the United States, making it debatable whether or not he was born "outside" the United States. The Panama Canal Zone was under United States sovereignty between 1903 and 1979.[7] Neither Goldwater nor Romney was elected, so it has never been fully addressed whether children born to Americans overseas are "natural-born citizens" and thus eligible for the Presidency. However, McCain is currently seeking the 2008 Republican nomination for President.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


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More Bullshit! The Naturalization Act of 1790 was repealed and replaced by the Naturalization Act of 1795!

which says:

"And be it further enacted, that the children of persons duly naturalized, dwelling within the United States, and being under the age of twenty-one years at the time of such naturalization, and the children of citizens of the United States born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States."

Putting people born overseas by citizens, in the same category as children that were born overseas by non-citizens, who were then naturalized. Neither would be Natural-born citizens, as their citizenship is defended through legal naturalization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 365627


November 14, 1986 to Present
If at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens, and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.
[link to immigration.findlaw.com]
 
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