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Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist

 
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Nothing is a place where dreams are born. Nothing is the place where you daydream. You see, consciousness can exist in the Nothing. Thoughts can exist in the Nothing. Everything can be imagined in the Nothing, however, the only restriction is, that you are not allowed to make any physical thing, within, the Nothing. Nothing does not like physical things.

So, therefore, you must have a physical realm for your created things. Balance would be, to have the Nothing realm for your dreams and the Something realm to make your dreams into physical reality. Therefore, Nothing is actually Something, which is, a real place for your dream/sleep life, where no physical things are made. The Void and Creation can exist side by side in the realm of Existence.

Okay, now look at Non-Existence.

Non-Existence must Exist. We know that Existence exists. However, for Balance, as long as Existence exists, then Existence must DEFINE Non-Existence as existing, so that Non-Existence has a 'place' in Existence.

Please read that again.

I will retype it here.

Non-Existence must Exist. We know that Existence exists. However, for Balance, as long as Existence exists, then Existence must DEFINE Non-Existence as existing, so that Non-Existence has a 'place' in Existence.


You see, Non-Existence has no attributes with which to define itself. You can not think in Non-Existence. There is no consciousness in Non-Existence. There is even NO Nothing in Non-Existence. There is only, I repeat, only, ONE THING that Non-Existence can do - and that is, exist.

Non-Existence must Exist. It is the Duty and Responsibility for those who Exist to define Non-Existence as existing.


God has been defined as having always existed and as the self existing One. By that definition, God did NOT come into existence, from a realm of not existing. It is impossible, by definition, for the realm of Non-Existence to produce anything that exists. Non-Existence has no attributes whatsoever. If something exists, it did not come from Non-Existence. Therefore, God has always existed and it He who defines the realm of Non-Existence as existing.

Now, let us look at a conundrum that God was faced with.

Since all that exists must come from God, therefore, evil, death, and lies also came forth from God. This fact is not the problem, because God needs these things to come forth from Him so that free will people can choose good, life and truth.

Let us analyze this inevitability further. Due to free will, it was inevitable that evil, death and lies would come forth from God. At any point in time, some one would choose to deny the Goodness, Life and Truth of God. This choice to deny belongs to the state of Non-Existence. I will show you this by logic.

The state of Non-Existence can not hold to anything that exists. Since God is the sum total of all that exists, then to deny God is a state of Non-Existence. The free will choice to deny God, is the state of Non-Existence. If you do not want God, then you do not want existence, therefore your choice is, Non-Existence.

I hope that exercise has made it clear that free will forces God to define Non-Existence as a 'place' that is not Him. This 'place' is where God can now put evil, death and lies, which are not Him. With Non-Existence defined, God can now have children with free will who can choose Him or Non-Existence. His responsibility is to TELL THEM what the choice is.

Our responsibility, IF we want existence, is to AGREE with God, and agree to define Non-Existence as a 'place' that exists. When we agree with God on this point, then He can put our evil, death and lies into Non-Existence, and we can live forever, in Him, as His Children.

Please review the above at least three times total, because rereading it will help you understand it better, as it has me, while writing it!

As a complete aside, I want to tell you how I started thinking about this issue and asking God about it today. I was reading Isaiah around chapters 12-15 and getting understandings from the Holy Spirit. I was reading about the Assyrian who is the so-called Antichrist. And I began to ask the Holy Spirit about the 'role' of Antichrist, whether it was 'fixed' to a certain one person who was destined to perform that role. The answer was an emphatic NO.

Unlike the role of Savior being destined to be fullfilled by only the one man Jesus who was born in Nazareth, the role of top dog of all evil was not so destined. The reason is the nature of the realm of evil doers is such that they compete and vote for their leadership and choose to obey according to hierarchy and ranks. All they do is opposite of how God does things. With God people are allowed to be who they really are, and their place is theirs, and their place does not belong to another.

The antichrist is the one seemingly person in the spiritual realm who happens to be top dog at the time when God allows him to do the things mentioned in that section of Isaiah for the purpose of teaching the children of God the truth about their choices causing them to reap all the evil the antichrist does. You will read there, that the people who Trust God will be spared, and helped through the ordeal.

As I pondered this facet of the structure of leadership in the realms of evil-doing I began to ask the Holy Spirit about the state of Non-Existence and how that NONE, not one, of any real people will ever go there. They can not by definition go to Non-Existence, because they exist. Once I began to pursue that route of logic, the Holy Spirit led me to understand that the antichrist does not actually exist. He is a by product of the distress that the realm of Non-Existence is having, because of not being defined properly by those who exist.

Allow me to explain. Imagine that Non-Existence is mixed throughout existence. You could well imagine that this Non-Existence essence would be a CANCER on existence. Non-Existence's goal is to simply exist. It does NOT want any other attributes of existence mixed with it. It is similar to how the Nothing does not want any matter or material stuff mixed in it. For Non-Existence to attempt to take on consciousness in order to protect itself, is pure insanity. Non-Existence can not think, or hold any attribute of existence. It can not ever acknowledge God, or even ask God to help it. Non-Existence being mixed with Existence, can do nothing but RUIN everything, both itself and the realm of Existence. For this reason, Non-Existence has been using attributes of existence in DENIAL in order to get the attention of all those who do exist, to define it, as NOT THEM.

Once we define Non-Existence as NOT US, then Non-Existence is happy to just, simply exist, which is all it can do.

So the problem is actually, people, who do not agree with God, that all that is not Him, is Non-Existence. Once you agree with God then He can help you cleanse yourself of this Non-Existence contamination and put it into Non-Existence, leaving you intact and existing.

If you will read Isaiah chapters 1 through 12 you will notice that God says He will use a "BURNING" throughout the texts. That the fuel for this FIRE is the people themselves. God is burning the Non-Existence stuff off of us. This activity culminates in the top dog of Non-Existence, the antichrist being allowed to punish the remaining people who do not get it - to help them get it. No one who actually exists will be lost. All the Non-Existence contamination will be sent to Non-Existence, where God puts evil, death and lies.

The people mentioned as wicked, evil doers, and the proud against God, are people who have, by their own free will, agreed with denying God completely, so that they are as close to putting themselves into Non-Existence as possible. Thus the very evil things they love will happen to them - as they have drawn that event to themselves by their choices. In the end, God will put the antichrist into Non-Existence, but you must understand, now, that the antichrist is not a real person, it is only the sum total of Non-Existence essence that is voted in as top dog at the time.

I know this is hard to take, but it is not hard to understand.

Simply understand that all that is comes from God and that dualities exist. Hot and Cold. Up and Down. Good and Evil. But that those things that are not a part of who God is, come about through free will and must have a place to exist. That place is Non-Existence.

This truth is how God solved the conundrum.

Evil, death and lies go to Non-Existence.

Non-Existence is happy to simply exist and nothing else.

When we agree with God's solution to the conundrum, then we side with Him in Existence.

Isa 12:1 And you will say in that day, "I thank you, GOD. You were angry but your anger wasn't forever. You withdrew your anger and moved in and comforted me.


Isa 12:1 And in that day thou shalt say, O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me.


See it now?


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What makes you think duality extends beyond this realm though..

Non-existence doesn't exist.

Existence is ALL that there is. There is nothing outside of this.

For non-existence to exist, it must be observed by "the source/god etc", thus it fails to be non-existence, for as soon as its observed, it falls into existence.

Your trying to use human language to rationalize your concept, but it doesn't work.
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Billy Preston - Nothing From Nothing

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What makes you think duality extends beyond this realm though..

Non-existence doesn't exist.

Existence is ALL that there is. There is nothing outside of this.

For non-existence to exist, it must be observed by "the source/god etc", thus it fails to be non-existence, for as soon as its observed, it falls into existence.

Your trying to use human language to rationalize your concept, but it doesn't work.
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What you said is illogical. God does not have to observe the Non-Existence, only DEFINE that it does indeed EXIST. By thus doing so, God puts NON-Existence INTO the realm of Existence.

Do you understand now?

Non-Existence exists.


You see how simple?

The things you said are illogical and messed up. Nothing is not outside of existence. Nothing, or the Void, does exist. It is the realm of dreams and imagining things without giving them FORM.


You are right though, in saying that God will not go there - He will not go to non-existence. However, He must define it as existing.

Non-Existence needing to be defined as existing by all those who exist is what causes the insane evil, death and lies.

Try reading the essay again.

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Hi Me hi

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Billy Preston - Nothing From Nothing

I'm a soldier in the war on poverty, yeah
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Hi floydian!

Good song!


Fat Minus is too low to see

God will NOT observe the Non-Existence

You gotta have something if you wana be with God

look at the title, nothing is something - ie the nothing is also part of existence.

by the way, I have posted essays here on GLP and on my forum and blog explaining all about the Nothing / Void.

Good song choice!!


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Interesting stuff...
Thanks to the original writer for sharing these thoughts...
OP, thanks for creating a sophisticated thread...
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the VOID REVEALED the SEVEN attributes of the ONE GOD


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There is a progression to my getting these understandings that led to my post today about the Non-Existence. Just so you readers will understand that God has been teaching me about His Cosmogeny and about the Void.

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well by just doing a search here on the word VOID in message content going back to 2006, I have found several.

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love you all,
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show me a measurable physical example of nothing
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Ok.
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What you said is illogical. God does not have to observe the Non-Existence, only DEFINE that it does indeed EXIST. By thus doing so, God puts NON-Existence INTO the realm of Existence.

Do you understand now?

Non-Existence exists.


You see how simple?

The things you said are illogical and messed up. Nothing is not outside of existence. Nothing, or the Void, does exist. It is the realm of dreams and imagining things without giving them FORM.


You are right though, in saying that God will not go there - He will not go to non-existence. However, He must define it as existing.

Non-Existence needing to be defined as existing by all those who exist is what causes the insane evil, death and lies.

Try reading the essay again.

nada
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No, what i said was totally logical, and if you really understood what you are trying to talk about, you would see that im actually correct.

You evidently don't understand the basis of "reality". You also are confusing the terms non-existence and nothing. Nothing is the same as the void.. but that is not non-existence. The void is still within the realm of existence. Non-existence however falls outside the realm of existence..

Existence is all that there is. It has no beginning and no end. There is nothing outside of it. Existence IS consciousness. There can not be anything outside of this. Basic quantum mechanics would help you here, dealing with the observer and observed.

To have existence and non-existence implies a boundary, a third party, a membrane. This does not work, for there is only existence and non-existence, and only one can actually be realized.

You can not define non-existence, for by definition there is absolute nothing in non-existence. It can also not be contained within a boundary.

Dreams are not in the void or "nothing".. dreams are just as physical as the reality you see in the waking state.. the only difference being that physical reality is being constantly maintained by a higher consciousness than our own.. both dreams and the waking states are merely PATTERNS of energy, a hologram/fractal.. from our limited awareness it seems "real" and "solid", but in reality everything in our universe is just a hologram, existing as the mind of a higher consciousness.


The "insane evil" "death" and "lies" are merely your perception of our world.. a symptom of duality. In reality there is only evolution.. everything is a positive motion.. from our perspective it does not appear this way.. however, if you were the consciousness that maintains the universe, you would see everything as a positive motion.

Evidently you do not understand what you're talking about.
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show me a measurable physical example of nothing
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DUH
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What you said is illogical. God does not have to observe the Non-Existence, only DEFINE that it does indeed EXIST. By thus doing so, God puts NON-Existence INTO the realm of Existence.

Do you understand now?

Non-Existence exists.


You see how simple?

The things you said are illogical and messed up. Nothing is not outside of existence. Nothing, or the Void, does exist. It is the realm of dreams and imagining things without giving them FORM.


You are right though, in saying that God will not go there - He will not go to non-existence. However, He must define it as existing.

Non-Existence needing to be defined as existing by all those who exist is what causes the insane evil, death and lies.

Try reading the essay again.

nada


No, what i said was totally logical, and if you really understood what you are trying to talk about, you would see that im actually correct.

You evidently don't understand the basis of "reality". You also are confusing the terms non-existence and nothing. Nothing is the same as the void.. but that is not non-existence. The void is still within the realm of existence. Non-existence however falls outside the realm of existence..

Existence is all that there is. It has no beginning and no end. There is nothing outside of it. Existence IS consciousness. There can not be anything outside of this. Basic quantum mechanics would help you here, dealing with the observer and observed.

To have existence and non-existence implies a boundary, a third party, a membrane. This does not work, for there is only existence and non-existence, and only one can actually be realized.

You can not define non-existence, for by definition there is absolute nothing in non-existence. It can also not be contained within a boundary.

Dreams are not in the void or "nothing".. dreams are just as physical as the reality you see in the waking state.. the only difference being that physical reality is being constantly maintained by a higher consciousness than our own.. both dreams and the waking states are merely PATTERNS of energy, a hologram/fractal.. from our limited awareness it seems "real" and "solid", but in reality everything in our universe is just a hologram, existing as the mind of a higher consciousness.


The "insane evil" "death" and "lies" are merely your perception of our world.. a symptom of duality. In reality there is only evolution.. everything is a positive motion.. from our perspective it does not appear this way.. however, if you were the consciousness that maintains the universe, you would see everything as a positive motion.

Evidently you do not understand what you're talking about.
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you were dancing all around it.

True that Non-Existence cannot exist outside of existence! That was the whole point of essay!

Non-Existence must exist WITHIN Existence.

get it now?

insane evil, death and lies must go the Non-Existence.


Perhaps you need to tackle the notion of .... TIME ... existing...


nada
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you were dancing all around it.

True that Non-Existence cannot exist outside of existence! That was the whole point of essay!

Non-Existence must exist WITHIN Existence.

get it now?

insane evil, death and lies must go the Non-Existence.


Perhaps you need to tackle the notion of .... TIME ... existing...


nada
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I see what you are trying to say.. but i don't think you understand what im trying to say..

In simple terms im saying there can not be non-existence.. because as soon as you define non-existence, it falls automatically into existence, because by the act of defining/observing, you have given light to it, quite literally..

Again, insaneevil death and lies.. duality my friend. It is needed for the pattern to unfold, otherwise it would be static. People who you percieve as doing "bad" things are not showing signs of "non-existence".. they're just on a lower level of existence. They are just as special and divine as any other entity.
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DUH
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so agreeing with u is dumb
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So, now if you have done some work with my other threads about the carnal mind you will have, by now, realized that this evil and insane mindset that is attached to our physical bodies, is non other than Non-Existence essence. Non-Existence can never agree with God because it is not supposed to have a mind to begin with. Using mind essence in denial can do naught else but lie, 100% of the time.

Again, you will not get the understanding if you do not read chapters 1 through 12 of Isaiah and see how God describes BURNING this mess off of us. We, the people, are the fuel for this fire. This fire is a GOOD thing! We need this fire to burn off that carnal mind.

Now, your problem will be how much you willingly agreed with the lies of your carnal mind. Even when it is burned off of you, you still might be a messed up evil and stupid person, by your own free will. The remedy for that is good teaching of the truth and the willingness to love the truth. If you can develop a desire for the truth then you can be rehabilitated.

Again, go to Isaiah, and you will see that God has His people CAPTURE YOU and take you as captives to the high Mountain to be taught - where it says to serve us? thats where you have finally humbled yourself to God and to His truth and are willing to learn the truth. It is a GOOD THING. You want to be captured and rescued by the true people of God whom He appoints to do that work. Please, I am not talking about the lying christians who dont even understand this (because they dont love the truth) and do not love you or want to help you, because they need the same rescuing.

The only way you can understand this stuff from reading Isaiah is to ASK GOD TO HELP YOU understand while reading it. Because all the lies that the carnal minds of men have taught us will interpret what we read into its lies - you can not get the truth unless you DESIRE truth strongly while asking God to show you the truth. Then your eyes and ears of understanding will be opened by the Holy Spirit and the truth will flow from the reading into you. You will see it then. You will see God rescuing you from the lies of the carnal mind which He is BURNING off of you with His FIRE.

It, the end, is a rescue mission. You will also see that it is the Father Himself who is the Branch, the stem from the root of Jesse, the Shoot, the Mighty One, the Holy One of Israel who dwells among us - it is not Jesus that this text is talking about at all! It is the Father who provides for Himself, A MAN, to BE HIM; Upon whom God puts His spirit, His wisdom, His righteous judgment.

So there is much truth in these chapters 1 to 12 in Isaiah, only you must ask God to help you, so that He can reveal the understandings to your heart, going past your lying carnal mind.

Some of you may remember that I once said the ending can be smooth and a happy party of all of us helping each other and that all the NWO, evil mind beings, Zionazis etc will simply disappear because we will be so busy with God and His business that we will not give our awareness to the evil people - ie they go into Non-Existence.

I hope you can understand this whole concept more clearly now. Look at the celebration in Isaiah chapter 12 - how the knowledge of God is spread throughout the earth - we are the ones who will be doing that, and people will be RELIEVED. What a relief!!!

if your heart is hard to this message now, then you need help, and you do not want to be the people who have to receive the harshest punishments to get you to wake up! Even then, it will be for your own good.

Only LOVE can see it that way now - ask God to increase your love quotient and someday you will also see it, and help others get free from the Non-Existence's insane evil, death and lies.

nada
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DUH

so agreeing with u is dumb
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I'm sorry, I thought you were being facetious! So I was being facetious.

You know it is really funny how that the nothing is really something after all. You can DO so many things in the nothing except MAKE a thing. And the things you do in the nothing, do affect you. A daydream that you imagine in the nothing affects you.

By contrast Non-Existence is a pseudo-place, it needs only to be defined as existing and nothing else.

It works out so cool!

I'm sorry I misunderstood you.

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keep this going people!
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well by just doing a search here on the word VOID in message content going back to 2006, I have found several.

I Apologize: Christians ARE responsible for ALL Evil and Suffering in the World.

01/26/07
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Thread: I Apologize: Christians ARE responsible for ALL Evil and Suffering in the World.




The TWO Witnesses are Mom and Dad & they're coming to give YOU a SPANKING

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Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life!
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THIS IS THE END; I MEAN THE VERY END. NO MORE CYCLES.....

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a chance to check out my writings here on GLP!
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non existence is the place where the non-things (the wicked) go

the wicked that God is here to kill is the non-things.. the stuff that is bothering us

God wants to burn it off, to set us free

this is a rescue operation

the JUDGMENT is on the wicked

do u get it now?

how u feel about the stuff burning off u depends on how much you agreed with the lies - thats why it seems to hurt, but what is hurting is the false-you being burned up! the real you doesnt hurt (its your pride in the dumb stuff u believed in)

u get it

humble your self to God now, make it easy, cry out to Him now, HELP! HELP ME JESUS!
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Yeah, but...why is there anything? Forget the sound of one hand clapping...think on THAT! ooohhhh....
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interesting. This is my realm. This is why i live. I love it when the metaphysical takes position above the physical.

Could something have come from nothing ? If you ask that then you have to ask where does a thought come from. A thought is a spark maybe huh ? Who created the wiring for the spark ? Even in physical terms nothing touches. No atoms actually touch as far as i understand. So.......it is just the closeness that counts.

The closer you are to finding God. The closer you are to sparking something extraordinary. Finding God ? Are there levels to that ? i believe there are. Since God is infinite one could keep growing into a journey of finding God. There is no limit. And with a purpose there is no telling what one could create in that journey.

I have a goal. I have a purpose. I want something. Something miraculous. something to grab the worlds attention.

What is deep inside of one ? Does infinity live within ? Can we connect it the infinity that lives without ? I believe we are already connected....But it is only a matter of knowing how much. Knowing is the key and not being burdened overly with the mundane and the physical is part of the key. Too many diversions here in this society aka machine world. I want to grow into the original matrix aka God. it is my quest. My quest has a goal.

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u will reach your goal
check out my forum for more info on the cosmogeny the Holy Spirit taught me about the void/nothing etc
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u will reach your goal
check out my forum for more info on the cosmogeny the Holy Spirit taught me about the void/nothing etc
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Will do : )

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u will reach your goal
check out my forum for more info on the cosmogeny the Holy Spirit taught me about the void/nothing etc
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Wow heavy site. Good stuff man : )

there is soooo much to read in this world isnt there ? But how much to know to really be saved ? Ahhhhh that is the question lol

Oh where do you stand on the Kingdom ? What do you think it will look like coming out of the sky ? I do believe in something grand coming out of the sky that changes our world forever.

Peace : )

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Before the creation existed, NOTHING. The only difference

being that the word means something other than what we usually

think of in this context, this is why I use capitals. The NOTHING

is infinite, and the infinite contains the ALL, the

ALL-consciousness, but only so long as it exists out of absolute

counteractions. The inevitable consequence of the endless dark

emptiness was that it contained an almighty intellect. The

endless nothing is the origin of the omnipotence of the

ALL-consciousness, and this last is the power of the infinite

NOTHING.

Statement 1.Prior to the creation was the infinite NOTHING.

Statement 2.The infinite obviously contained all possibilities,

the ALL.

Statement 3.The NOTHING could only contain counteracting

principles or contradictions that integrally amounted to nothing

(zero).

Statement 4.Then the NOTHING is the ALL that is composed of

contradictions.

Statement 5.The ALL had the ability to create the present

universe as long as it existed out of contradictions that left

the original infinity of the NOTHING unchanged.



Conclusion: The total NOTHING in the axiom has never existed, and

with this, the axiom is proved.



The "REALLY EXISTING"

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The question now arises, to what extent is it possible to regard

contradictions that amount to zero, as something or nothing? With

this, we can discuss the first conclusion to the axiom, and

approach it in a different way.



Axiom: Something can never be created from nothing.

Submission: The universe exists.

Conclusion: Then for all intents and purposes, the universe is

nothing.

This Conclusion is also completely valid, the ALL and the NOTHING

are identical, but this does not invalidate the first conclusion.

The "Something" in the axiom is undoubtedly the matter, time, and

energy in the universe; and this is undoubtedly the mutation of

something that always existed.
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u will reach your goal
check out my forum for more info on the cosmogeny the Holy Spirit taught me about the void/nothing etc



Wow heavy site. Good stuff man : )

there is soooo much to read in this world isnt there ? But how much to know to really be saved ? Ahhhhh that is the question lol

Oh where do you stand on the Kingdom ? What do you think it will look like coming out of the sky ? I do believe in something grand coming out of the sky that changes our world forever.

Peace : )

Soon *
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i believe zion will be the first city in the huge new jerusalem city which is now in the second heaven and is both a spiritual and physical place

i believe zion starts out as a city on earth that is raised up above the earth - so that it, zion, would be the first physical evidence of the Kingdom, coming down, as you say you expect to see, from Heaven to earth... as it were, but I believe zion begins on earth, the city where the daughter of zion dwells, which is then lifted up to be the first dominion of the new jerusalem
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i could not follow your logic on the nothing

but it reminded me of a song

making love out of nothing at all

the nothing was AT the All

the nothing came out of the ALL (by definition)

you can not make the nothing into God


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