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~~ Obama 32nd degree Freemason ~~

 
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most freemasons have never seen or read a real freemason bible.



wrong..im a freemason and you can find such texts and codes of conduct at your local masonic library
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There is no such thing as a "freemason bible" - there are King James bibles with a square and compass on them, but nothing in the text has been altered or changed.
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Don't know if this has been posted already but I didn't have time to go through 13 pages.

[link to worldmessenger.blogspot.com]

Also note that he attends the Bohemian Grove.
Senator Barack Obama is a 32nd Degree Prince Hall Freemason!!

This revelation is not surprising, for it answers the question as to how Obama could ascend to the high political office when he apparently has no occult background and no discernible Masonic roots.
Now, you know the truth! He is a Mason! Let us consider the evidence.
NEWS BRIEF: "Obama Criticizes Opponents' Iraq Votes", Cephas Library, December 28, 2007
"Today, Prince Hall is a masonic fraternal order whose buildings are clearly marked, members readily identify themselves with rings, bumper stickers, and lapel pins. One of their most famous members, and also a 32nd degree Prince Hall Mason, became a US presidential candidate for 2008. His name is Barack Hussein Obama."
"Barack Obama, speaking at the Scottish Rite Masonic Center in Des Moines on Thursday, criticized other Democrats’ votes to authorize the war in Iraq. Prince Hall is a first black masonic lodge in the US, named by its founder and master who was the most famous black individual in the Boston area during the American Revolution and through the turn of the nineteenth century."
Prince Hall Masonry is identical to the the normal white Lodges, in their teachings, in their symbolism, and now, in getting one of their own to the point where he could attain the highest political office in the land. For this reason, we show the book, "Hidden Secrets of the Eastern Star", above, so you can learn the little-known facts of Freemasonry.
But, you say, this source is the only one in which it is reported that Obama is a Prince Hall Mason. You cannot go on only one source. You are right; we have another source, a website dedicated to the election of Senator Obama as President. As you can see, below, this website has the official Obama letterhead.

) Colored Goatshead of Mendes Pentagram -- used strongly by the Eastern Star Masonic organization for women, but also used extensively by regular Masons. This particular pentagram is the most evil symbol in Black Magick Witchcraft!
This symbol is also "carved into the ground" in the street layout of Washington, D.C., as we prove in the video, "Riddles In Stone: The Secret Architecture of Washington, D.C."! (Watch this incredible video trailer)
The Pentagram is also used as a talisman/amulet, for protection! Listen to the explanation given by the "Continental Association of Satan's Hope" as they describe their pentagram:
"You will find the Satanic Pentagram invaluable and indispensable as you attempt to draw from the infernal power of your Lord Satan! This extremely powerful amulet is the sign of the ... summation of all the occult forces! In other words, there is no amulet or talisman more powerful, or even close, to as powerful as the Satanic Pentagram". (Dr. Cathy Burns, "Hidden Secrets of the Eastern Star", p. 325)
Now you can understand how gravely important it is that Prince Hall Masonry uses the Satanic inverted Pentagram as one of its major symbols!
Now you know he is a Mason, you can begin to see how Obama could become such an important person in the Illuminati.
2) Standard Masonic Square and Compass with the 'G' in the middle
This Obama website invites you to send a message to Barack Obama by sending it to the Prince Hall Masons.
This reality tells us one of the major reasons Obama has risen so quickly so far in his political career. In fact, this information fills in the only missing piece to the puzzle. Because he is a high-ranking Mason, Obama was selected by the Illuminati to become the first black presidential candidate and, some say, the favorite to win in November.
New Age author, Bill Cooper, revealed in his book that no one is promoted to a high level within American Intelligence unless he has significant Masonic roots! ("Behold A Pale Horse", Bill Cooper)
The same seems to be true of high level politics. As the last days of this plan approaches, the Masonic connection becomes more important.
The Illinois Senator has the Trilateral Commission founder as his Foreign Policy adviser and a Skull & Bonesman as his financial adviser because he is, first and foremost, a Mason.
If Senator Obama is planned to be the next President of the United States, he will join a list of Masons since World War II to hold that office, and the fifth in a row!
1) Gerald Ford
2) Ronald Reagan -- Made an honorary Mason at the end of his second term
3) George H.W. Bush -- Member, Skull & Bones, a secret society steeped in Masonry
4) Bill Clinton -- Member of Demolay
5) George W. Bush -- Member, Skull & Bones


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most freemasons have never seen or read a real freemason bible.



wrong..im a freemason and you can find such texts and codes of conduct at your local masonic library


There is no such thing as a "freemason bible" - there are King James bibles with a square and compass on them, but nothing in the text has been altered or changed.
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Yea because the initiates are taught how to read the symbolism in the bible.The bible was written to be read by the sheeple litterally and for the masons to read it symbolically.Pretty good plan.Huh?
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most freemasons have never seen or read a real freemason bible.



wrong..im a freemason and you can find such texts and codes of conduct at your local masonic library


There is no such thing as a "freemason bible" - there are King James bibles with a square and compass on them, but nothing in the text has been altered or changed.


Yea because the initiates are taught how to read the symbolism in the bible.The bible was written to be read by the sheeple litterally and for the masons to read it symbolically.Pretty good plan.Huh?
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Nope not true at all. Masonry uses the bible for its MYTHS but the myths actually aren't in the bible. Hiram Abiff's legend, for example, was completely made up - he only appears twice in the Bible.
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If Senator Obama is planned to be the next President of the United States, he will join a list of Masons since World War II to hold that office, and the fifth in a row!
1) Gerald Ford
2) Ronald Reagan -- Made an honorary Mason at the end of his second term
3) George H.W. Bush -- Member, Skull & Bones, a secret society steeped in Masonry
4) Bill Clinton -- Member of Demolay
5) George W. Bush -- Member, Skull & Bones

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First: Do people REALLY believe this stuff? If Obama was really a mason no one would have a problem saying it - masons would be proud to have him as a member. Hes not. Never was. Probably never will be.

The only person on that list that was actually a mason was Ford.
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most freemasons have never seen or read a real freemason bible.



wrong..im a freemason and you can find such texts and codes of conduct at your local masonic library


There is no such thing as a "freemason bible" - there are King James bibles with a square and compass on them, but nothing in the text has been altered or changed.


Yea because the initiates are taught how to read the symbolism in the bible.The bible was written to be read by the sheeple litterally and for the masons to read it symbolically.Pretty good plan.Huh?


Nope not true at all. Masonry uses the bible for its MYTHS but the myths actually aren't in the bible. Hiram Abiff's legend, for example, was completely made up - he only appears twice in the Bible.
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[link to www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com]

Many of you will have to memorize these passages. With a true understanding of their meaning, your memorization will not just be the memorization of huge blocks of words, but remembering the words because you understand what is truly being said within the context of its ongoing flow...especially the Masonic Degree Verse in the 3rd degree.



In play form, the Masonic Degree Verse in Ecclesiastes can be acted out with gestures to enhance the experience and promote the Masonic knowledge of your brothers.

Below is the Masonic Degree Verse for each of the 3 degrees to which the Christian Bible is opened when performing each of these specific degrees:
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If Senator Obama is planned to be the next President of the United States, he will join a list of Masons since World War II to hold that office, and the fifth in a row!
1) Gerald Ford
2) Ronald Reagan -- Made an honorary Mason at the end of his second term
3) George H.W. Bush -- Member, Skull & Bones, a secret society steeped in Masonry
4) Bill Clinton -- Member of Demolay
5) George W. Bush -- Member, Skull & Bones



First: Do people REALLY believe this stuff? If Obama was really a mason no one would have a problem saying it - masons would be proud to have him as a member. Hes not. Never was. Probably never will be.

The only person on that list that was actually a mason was Ford.
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And how do you know exactly what he is?I was only posting a link on the subject of this post.Do some further study and show us.
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Entities should not despair, for there is an enormous numbers of people whose interests lie in preserving the good life for each other, and those who would enslave the masses are very few, and though they have many who work for them do so more out of fear than out of desire. They do not desire to enslave their fellow associates, but will do so because they are afraid that if they do not, they themselves will suffer greater ills.

Gradually, as the masses awaken, they begin to recognize who their true enemies and oppressors are, and as these masses awaken, those who reside in positions in between will come to recognize the power of the masses as being greater than that of the masters, and their allegiance will change, not to support the masters, but to work for the masses.

It does appear that the masses in the end, will remain in charge and regain the power that has been designed to them by the Constitution, and those who would destroy the Constitution and enslave the masses will be out of luck, and will have exposed themselves for what they are.
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If Senator Obama is planned to be the next President of the United States, he will join a list of Masons since World War II to hold that office, and the fifth in a row!
1) Gerald Ford
2) Ronald Reagan -- Made an honorary Mason at the end of his second term
3) George H.W. Bush -- Member, Skull & Bones, a secret society steeped in Masonry
4) Bill Clinton -- Member of Demolay
5) George W. Bush -- Member, Skull & Bones



First: Do people REALLY believe this stuff? If Obama was really a mason no one would have a problem saying it - masons would be proud to have him as a member. Hes not. Never was. Probably never will be.

The only person on that list that was actually a mason was Ford.


And how do you know exactly what he is?I was only posting a link on the subject of this post.Do some further study and show us.
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Further study is not you googling and posting whatever someone writes on their conspiracy website.

How do we know hes not a mason? Because EVERY SINGLE President that has been a freemason has been exhaustively documented. Masons would love it if Obama were a mason. HES NOT.
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most freemasons have never seen or read a real freemason bible.



wrong..im a freemason and you can find such texts and codes of conduct at your local masonic library


There is no such thing as a "freemason bible" - there are King James bibles with a square and compass on them, but nothing in the text has been altered or changed.


Yea because the initiates are taught how to read the symbolism in the bible.The bible was written to be read by the sheeple litterally and for the masons to read it symbolically.Pretty good plan.Huh?


Nope not true at all. Masonry uses the bible for its MYTHS but the myths actually aren't in the bible. Hiram Abiff's legend, for example, was completely made up - he only appears twice in the Bible.


[link to www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com]

Many of you will have to memorize these passages. With a true understanding of their meaning, your memorization will not just be the memorization of huge blocks of words, but remembering the words because you understand what is truly being said within the context of its ongoing flow...especially the Masonic Degree Verse in the 3rd degree.



In play form, the Masonic Degree Verse in Ecclesiastes can be acted out with gestures to enhance the experience and promote the Masonic knowledge of your brothers.

Below is the Masonic Degree Verse for each of the 3 degrees to which the Christian Bible is opened when performing each of these specific degrees:
 Quoting: danhow


Wrong. Candidates don't have to memorize any bible verse. The catechism memorizing involves 0 bible verses. You linked to old (and outdated) ritual.
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Wrong. Candidates don't have to memorize any bible verse. The catechism memorizing involves 0 bible verses. You linked to old (and outdated) ritual.
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It can't be too outdated if the copyright date is 2009!!!
Look at the bottom of the page!!
So tell us what the new ritual is since you know so much about it!!What book is used now then?

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Wrong. Candidates don't have to memorize any bible verse. The catechism memorizing involves 0 bible verses. You linked to old (and outdated) ritual.
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[link to www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com]
19 of the Old Masonic Manuscripts



If you believe that these Old Charges,...these ancient Masonic Charters, found on the dark and musty shelves in ancient libraries are simply old and interesting pieces of Masonic history and information that have nothing to do with Freemasonry, today, you would be perceived among knowledgeable Brethren as abysmally uneducated.
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For the record I have nothing to do with masons.Its not to hard to search on google or bing or yahoo to find the answers you need.

You have access to the world library in the palm of your hands.
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Here is another side of the coin.Make your own decision to the topic.

[link to www.masonicinfo.com]

As seems to happen every time there's a US presidential election, our site is regularly searched to find out if the candidates are Freemasons. OK. For the record:

John McCain is NOT a Mason. His father, Admiral John Sidney McCain, Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet during the Vietnam War and who died in 1981, was.

Barack Obama is NOT a Mason.

Hillary Clinton is NOT a Mason. Her husband (former President Bill Clinton) was a member of a Masonic-sponsored youth organization. You can read more about that here.

Ron Paul is not a Mason although his father is.

George Bush is not a Mason. His father (former President George Bush) is not a Mason. And the Skull and Bones fraternity at Yale University has NO connection to Freemasonry whatsoever, despite what the person with the tin-foil hat wants you to believe!

So whatever the motive for your curiosity, the answer is - NO! OK? And despite the frenzied rants that have appeared on some websites, there's NO SUCH THING in the United States as being a 'secret Mason' or hiding one's membership. They'll usually tell you it's because the person is a 33rd Degree that makes it a secret which is total crap: see our page on 33rds RULE! for more information. The simple facts are that when a man becomes a Freemason, he doesn't hide his identity. (There are a couple of bogus groups - primarily internet fantasies - that aren't at all part of Freemasonry despite their ridiculous attempts at pretending to be. At least one of those phony groups has listed a large number of far-right Republicans as members in their group, surely none of whom are the least interested in being part of the creator's fantasies.) The fact is, though, that when one joins Freemasonry in the United States, it's done openly and without secrets. Thus, if a website tries to convince you that any of the above are actually Masons but that it's somehow a secret, ask them how they know. You'll get a LOT of double-talk and obfuscation which, in the final analysis, will be nothing more than plain and simple manure!

Famous freemasons-
[link to www.masonicinfo.com]

here is one so says by this link.
Franklin, Benjamin - American printer (he published the first book to come off the press in the colonies - Anderson's Constitutions of 1723), author, diplomat, philosopher, and scientist, whose contributions to the American Revolution (1775-1783), and the newly formed federal government that followed, rank him among the country's greatest statesmen. He held the Masonic title of Grand Master of Pennsylvania and was one of the 13 Masonic signers of the Constitution of the United States
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ORIGIN OF FREEMASONRY

by Thomas Paine


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It is always understood that Freemasons have a secret which they carefully conceal; but from everything that can be collected from their own accounts of Masonry, their real secret is no other than their origin, which but few of them understand; and those who do, envelop it in mystery.

The Christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: both are derived from the worship of the sun. The difference between their origin is, that the Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the sun, as I have shown in the chapter on the origin of the Christian religion.

In Masonry many of the ceremonies of the Druids are preserved in their original state, at least without any parody. With them the sun is still the sun; and his image in the form of the sun is the great emblematical ornament of Masonic lodges and Masonic dresses. It is the central figure on their aprons, and they wear it also pendant on the breast of their lodges, and in their processions. It has the figure of a man, as at the head of the sun, as Christ is always represented.

At what period of antiquity, or in what nation, this religion was first established, is lost in the labyrinth of unrecorded time. It is generally ascribed to the ancient Egyptians, the Babylonians and Chaldeans, and reduced afterwards to a system regulated by the apparent progress of the sun through the twelve signs of the zodiac by Zoroaster the lawgiver of Persia, from whence Pythagoras brought it into Greece. It is to these matters Dr. Dodd refers in the passage already quoted from his oration.

The worship of the sun as the great visible agent of a great invisible first cause, "Time without limits," spread itself over a considerable part of Asia and Africa, from thence to Greece and Rome, through all ancient Gaul, and into Britain and Ireland.

Smith, in his chapter on the antiquity of Masonry in Britain, says, that "notwithstanding the obscurity which envelops Masonic history in that country, various circumstances contribute to prove that Freemasonry was introduced into Britain about 1,030 years before Christ."

It cannot be Masonry in its present state that Smith here alludes to. The Druids flourished in Britain at the period he speaks of, and it is from them that Masonry is descended. Smith has put the child in the place of the parent.

It sometimes happens, as well in writing as in conversation, that a person lets slip an expression that serves to unravel what he intends to conceal, and this is the case with Smith, for in the same chapter he says, "The Druids, when they committed anything to writing, used the Greek alphabet, and I am bold to assert that the most perfect remains of the Druids' rites and ceremonies are preserved in the customs and ceremonies of the Masons that are to be found existing among mankind. My brethren," says he, "may be able to trace them with greater exactness than I am at liberty to explain to the public."

This is a confession from a Master Mason, without intending it to be so understood by the public, that Masonry is the remains of the religion of the Druids; the reasons for the Masons keeping this a secret I shall explain in the course of this work.

As the study and contemplation of the Creator is in the works of the creation, the sun, as the great visible agent of that Being, was the visible object of the adoration of the Druids; all their religious rites and ceremonies had reference to the apparent progress of the sun through the twelve signs of the zodiac, and his influence upon the earth.

The Masons adopt the same practices. The roof of their temples or lodges is ornamented with a sun, and the floor is a representation of the variegated face of the earth either by carpeting or mosaic work.
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there are only 3 degrees you dumbshits.

your unprofound fake "knowledge" is just stupid and primitive.
you nutjobs really have no clue about freemasonry. my grandfather once was a freemason himself so i know this first hand.

you're just gullible, stupid and VERY uneducated trailer trash.

believe whatever you please...but fact is fact.

freemasons have NOTHING to do with "conspiracies".

so obamba simply CAN'T be a "32nd degree mason"...ridicolous...really.


LOL, this coming from an obvious illiterate.

Take your ad hominem attacks and stick 'em where the sun don't shine, honey.
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you do understand that until you are ready in a masonry lodge you wont know that there are higher degrees
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there are only 3 degrees you dumbshits.

your unprofound fake "knowledge" is just stupid and primitive.
you nutjobs really have no clue about freemasonry. my grandfather once was a freemason himself so i know this first hand.

you're just gullible, stupid and VERY uneducated trailer trash.

believe whatever you please...but fact is fact.

freemasons have NOTHING to do with "conspiracies".

so obamba simply CAN'T be a "32nd degree mason"...ridicolous...really.


LOL, this coming from an obvious illiterate.

Take your ad hominem attacks and stick 'em where the sun don't shine, honey.

you do understand that until you are ready in a masonry lodge you wont know that there are higher degrees
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Craft Freemasonry


1° Entered Apprentice
2° Fellowcraft
3° Master Mason
this as far as your dopey grand father got you dipshit


Concordant or Appendant Bodies these degrees are not revealed until the peron in question is ready and choses by the spritis.

Scottish Rite Lodge of Perfection

4° Secret Master

5° Perfect Master

6° Confidential [Intimate] Secretary

7° Provost and Judge

8° Intendent of the Building

9° Elu, or Elected Knight, of the Nine

10° Illustrious Elect or Elu of the Fifteen

11° Sublime Knight Elect, or Elu, of the Twelve

12° [Grand] Master Architect

13° Knight of the Ninth Arch, or Royal Arch of Solomon

14° Grand Elect, Perfect and Sublime Mason, or Perfect Elu

Chapter of Rose Croix

15° Knight of the Sword [of the East]

16° Prince of Jerusalem

17° Knight of the East and West

18° Knight [Prince] Rose Croix

Council of Kadosh

19° [Grand] Pontiff

20° [Grand] Master of Symbolic Lodges

21° Noachite or Prussian Knight

22° Knight of the Royal Axe

23° Chief of the Tabernacle

24° Prince of the Tabernacle

25° Knight of the Brazen Serpent

26° Prince of Mercy

27° Knight Commander of the Temple

28° Knight of the Sun, or Prince Adept

29° Grand Scottish Knight of St. Andrew

30° Knight Kadosh

Consistory of Sublime Princes

31° Inspector Inquisitor Commander

32° Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret

Supreme Council

33° Sovereign Grand Inspector General
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omg are yu a 33rd degree mason whta bad representitive for yur contry
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I would imagine, all presidents today have to be "connected" in this way.

I am not surprized. All is contrived. We dont elect a president anymore. Last elected president was most likely, Lincoln if that...
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I am also a member of the 32nd AASR. The claims I'm reading here are absolutely ludicrous. I fail to understand how so many people can bash an organization that helps so many people. What's next, are we going to accuse the Shriners of being Al-queda sympathizers because of their hats, despite the hundreds of thousands of children they heal every year? I know many 33rd degree masons, and they are true role models for anyone, beacons in their communities. We should ALL aspire to be as humble and charitable as these men. If there was such a grand conspiracy in the AASR, why have the only people who are aware it never been masons?
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If you look at this website... [link to www.theforbiddenknowledge.com]


...you will see that most of our Presidents were into Illuminati and the first 5 were either Illuminati and or Free Masons. Plus the first 20 or so Presidents were related. Coincidence? Hardly...

Masonic influences are all over the place. The ultimate person who is in power over everything in our world is the Black Pope of the Catholic brotherhood group, the Jesuits. He calls the shots...the assassinations...the rise and fall of the stock market...all of it.

If you think our country was founded on Christianity, you thought wrong, and so did I, until I read who our founding fathers really were. Pfft...Christians? Please!!

Who do you think wrote our history books for our schools? Our government...and they wrote them to protect the Masonic lodges and the occult.

Look at the link above. It will blow your mind. Also, look up the Black Pope...

May God have mercy on our souls...and never deny Christ when they try to get you to do so, even if that means death.
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I would imagine, all presidents today have to be "connected" in this way.

I am not surprized. All is contrived. We dont elect a president anymore. Last elected president was most likely, Lincoln if that...
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to the above...Actually Lincoln was one of our Presidents who never officially joined the Free Masons. He was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth who was a Free Mason and was never killed by the lynch mob who found him in the barn, but rather he gave the password of the Masons, Abaddon, which is Lucifer in Hebrew. He was later go and on his death bed, confessed to killing Lincoln but escaped by saying the Masonic password. Booth was also a Mason. So, it makes you wonder if they killed Lincoln because he didn't fit into their "plan" of a New World Order, one that follows Masonic rules and the Illuminati.
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I am also a member of the 32nd AASR. The claims I'm reading here are absolutely ludicrous. I fail to understand how so many people can bash an organization that helps so many people. What's next, are we going to accuse the Shriners of being Al-queda sympathizers because of their hats, despite the hundreds of thousands of children they heal every year? I know many 33rd degree masons, and they are true role models for anyone, beacons in their communities. We should ALL aspire to be as humble and charitable as these men. If there was such a grand conspiracy in the AASR, why have the only people who are aware it never been masons?
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Pulease...Shriners are up there with all of the other secret societies!! You are all subject to follow orders of the American Pope ( in New York) and ultimately The Black Pope (Jesuit Supreme General).
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You don't have to travel across the continent to become a 33rd degree Scottish Rite Mason, it's an honorary degree, nothing more, no secret wisdom, no hidden truths revealed. I know several 33rd degree Masons, and they've never left the state, and are very active in local charities. I'm a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason, no devious actions in any part of it. Again, this is one of the stupidest posts I've seen in awhile, from people who don't understand what their talking about at all, and who'll believe anything they read. I'm a big conspiracy buff myself, or I wouldn't be coming to this page at all, but it's a good site for all the crazy, and some not so crazy conspiracies. But all the Masonic/NWO/Bilderburg/Illuminati ones are just crap from people who what to see the boogieman everywhere. Unless most of the founders of this nation, and many others in free nations around the world for the last 400 are forming free democracies only to somewhere 400 to 500 years down the road form them into one super government that isn't a democracy, that goes against all the tenents of Masonary, then sure, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin were the boogymen.


Well said my brother. Anyone who has all the information about the evil and satanic conspiricies that the masons do like taking over the world, and drinking blood out of skulls, and discriminating against people of different races, they always seem to forget to let the reader know that they are not masons themselves, that thier knowledege is limited to only the B.S. that they read on sites like this. they forget to mention that they are dumb enough to believe any negative thing they hear... and to those of you who are the dumb asses, you should know this; masons dont run the world...the people who run the world become masons...Black or white!!! also black men can become scottish rite, york rite, or prince hall masons. white men can only be two of the three...so dumb ass, tell me again how we the white masons discriminate against our black brothers...you should really put a cork in your undereducated ass. Have a nice day
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"Let it be known to the brothers of the 30th degree that the Masonic doctrine shall be the Luciferian Doctrine."
- Morals and Dogma Albert Pike, 33* Grand inspector general of the Southern jurisdiction of the ancient and accepted scottish rite of freemasonry.




would the mason's members kindly explain this?


Absolutely. Its a made up quote penned by Leo Taxil. Albert Pike never said that.

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duh! what idiot thought that albert pike said this?!? must have read the wrong book, or this site.
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I am also a member of the 32nd AASR. The claims I'm reading here are absolutely ludicrous. I fail to understand how so many people can bash an organization that helps so many people. What's next, are we going to accuse the Shriners of being Al-queda sympathizers because of their hats, despite the hundreds of thousands of children they heal every year? I know many 33rd degree masons, and they are true role models for anyone, beacons in their communities. We should ALL aspire to be as humble and charitable as these men. If there was such a grand conspiracy in the AASR, why have the only people who are aware it never been masons?



Pulease...Shriners are up there with all of the other secret societies!! You are all subject to follow orders of the American Pope ( in New York) and ultimately The Black Pope (Jesuit Supreme General).
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and to this retard: how can the masons, shriners, etc., be a secret society that EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT. dont feel bad though. there are a lot of people who think its all a big secret that EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT
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It's funny how everyone who knows everything about Freemasonry aren't Freemasons. Prince Hall Freemasons can receive the 33rd Degree. In many states, Post Civil Rights movement, Black and White masons sit in the same Lodge halls. We don't believe all Gods are equal. We have our own personal beliefs but respect everyones right to believe inwhatever God they want, just as our Constitution allows. Believe as you wish. Continue this thread as long as you wish. It is some great entertainment to see such ignorance.
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Here! Here my brother. If the President is a member, lets get to the chase - what lodge and jurisdiction? if this can't be answered which is public masonic record, he probably is not. let's stop dancing in circles and get some real, adult evidence.
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lol guys are too funny.. who cares if he is 32nd. Guess what!!! Your local pastor is a 33rd degree..
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I'am a 32nd degree Freemason and i'm having major problem understanding my brother on this subject, don't have a problem sharing in the good fruits of my Blessing from God, as my degree is secret so is the spirital Blessing by which God Bless me with a Wife.
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thats why you are not a 33rd degree.
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Re: ~~ Obama 32nd degree Freemason ~~
probably

since obama's mother is the jewish one, which might link her family tree with Cheney's, etc.

if you look at it, all people are related

him being a freemason?

probably
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