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| Tribal Rhythm
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US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication'
February 16, 2008 - 6:00AM
Source: ABC
A man who killed five students and himself during a shooting spree at an Illinois college had stopped taking medication and become erratic in the last two weeks, buying two guns he used in the bloodbath just six days ago, officials said.
He was identified as Stephen Kazmierczak, 27, a former student at Northern Illinois University where he returned to carry out yesterday's shootings, hiding a shotgun in a guitar case as he entered a lecture hall, police said.
His motive is not known, campus police chief Don Grady told a news conference. Nor were there indications he had any relationship with any of his victims who were mowed down as he fired more than 50 shots in a matter of seconds from a lecture hall stage, Mr Grady said.
Local officials revised the death toll downward, saying Kazmierczak killed five students, not six as they had earlier reported, and wounded many more. In all 21 people were shot before he turned one of his four guns on himself.
"Apparently he had been taking medication" but stopped and had become "somewhat erratic" in the last two weeks, Mr Grady said. He did not describe what kind of medication was involved.
"There were no red flags. He was an outstanding student, an awarded student" who was even "revered" by faculty and fellow students, Mr Grady said. "A fairly normal, undistressed person."
Mr Grady said the shooter had been enrolled at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in the central part of the state, far removed from Northern, a 25,000-student school 104 kilometres west of Chicago.
A federal firearms agent said Kazmierczak bought a shotgun and a handgun nine days ago in Champaign, apparently legally.
The Chicago Tribune reported that he had drawn notice in academic circles, helping write papers on self-injury in prison and on the role of religion in early US prisons, work that earned him a dean's award.
'A very good student'
Kazmierczak "by all accounts that we can tell right now was a very good student that the professors thought well of," school president John Peters said in an interview on ABC America's Good Morning America.
"There is nothing in our system that he has had any counselling," he added. "Motive is the one thing that we're trying to pin down at this point. I really at this point have no sense of that. There is no note or threat that I know of."
Three of the students who died were 20, one was 19 and one was 32.
Terrified and bleeding, students fled the hall before the gunman shot himself on the stage in the latest in a series of shootings at US colleges and high schools.
Northern Illinois University was placed on a security alert in December after police found threats on a bathroom wall laced with racial slurs, references to the Virginia Tech shooting and a warning that "things will change most hastily" in the final days of the semester.
But Mr Peters said he did not think Thursday's shooting was related to the threats and said that while security has been heightened, there was not much more officials could have done.
"I don't know of any plan that can prevent this tragedy," he told reporters. "Unless we lock every door I don't know how we can keep people out."
Virginia Tech, a university in Blacksburg, Virginia, became the site of the deadliest shooting rampage in modern US history in April 2007 when a gunman killed 32 people and himself.
Mr Peters in a separate interview on CNN said the university had reviewed and improved its emergency response plans after the Virginia Tech shooting.
While universities traditionally have been "some of the most open institutions," he said, "events like this and Virginia Tech and others are forcing us to reconsider how we do things. I think that is unfortunate but necessary."
President George W Bush said he had spoken to Mr Peters and told him "that a lot of folks today will be praying for the families of the victims and for the Northern Illinois University community.
"Obviously a tragic situation on that campus and I ask our citizens to offer their blessings, blessings of comfort and blessing of strength."
Illinois Senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama in a statement said that beyond prayers "we must also offer ... our determination to do whatever it takes to eradicate this violence from our streets and our schools; from our neighbourhoods and our cities."
- Reuters/AFP
BLAH BLAH BLAH HE WAS A GOOD GUY BLAH BLAH BLAH. Here have some more drugs BLAH BLAH BLAH Next shooting please. |
| LS
User ID: 64943
 United States
2/15/2008 2:57 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..............
it said he had STOP taking the medication. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 116502
United States
2/15/2008 2:58 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Big Pahrma-"take our meds our you will kill people" |
| Evil Twin  
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User ID: 6063
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2/15/2008 3:00 PM
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"Illinois Senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama in a statement said that beyond prayers "we must also offer ... our determination to do whatever it takes to eradicate this violence from our streets and our schools; from our neighbourhoods and our cities."
You can be fairly certian that doesn't mean getting people off of mind altering meds.
Considering becoming an "undocumented worker".
eviltwin618@yahoo.com |
| LS
User ID: 64943
United States
2/15/2008 3:01 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
... mind altering meds. Quoting: Evil Twin
where can i get these? |
| Deisi
User ID: 351254
United States
2/15/2008 3:03 PM
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US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication'
February 16, 2008 - 6:00AM
Source: ABC
A man who killed five students and himself during a shooting spree at an Illinois college had stopped taking medication and become erratic in the last two weeks, buying two guns he used in the bloodbath just six days ago, officials said. Quoting: Tribal Rhythm
So, ON medication he was rational. OFF medication, he was erratic.
Now, WHO is at fault that he DIDN'T take his meds??
. |
| Nada Khazar
User ID: 221314
United States
2/15/2008 3:03 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..............
it said he had STOP taking the medication. Quoting: LS
Right.And that is when they freak out, NOT because the "medication" is helpful, but because it is highly addictive.
It's withdrawal, with all the associated hallucinations, paranoia etc, etc. |
| Nada Khazar
User ID: 221314
United States
2/15/2008 3:04 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
... mind altering meds.
where can i get these? Quoting: LS
Trust me, you don't want any. |
| Nada Khazar
User ID: 221314
United States
2/15/2008 3:06 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication'
February 16, 2008 - 6:00AM
Source: ABC
A man who killed five students and himself during a shooting spree at an Illinois college had stopped taking medication and become erratic in the last two weeks, buying two guns he used in the bloodbath just six days ago, officials said.
So, ON medication he was rational. OFF medication, he was erratic.
Now, WHO is at fault that he DIDN'T take his meds??
.
You are the dumbass.These drugs were never intended to help anyone.They were developed from CIA mind control experiments, and their main "therapeutic" effect is Parkinsonism.
Psychiatry is by far the biggest danger to decent people the world over. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352800
United States
2/15/2008 3:07 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication'
February 16, 2008 - 6:00AM
Source: ABC
A man who killed five students and himself during a shooting spree at an Illinois college had stopped taking medication and become erratic in the last two weeks, buying two guns he used in the bloodbath just six days ago, officials said.
So, ON medication he was rational. OFF medication, he was erratic.
Now, WHO is at fault that he DIDN'T take his meds??
.
So what happens in our country if all these people can't get their meds because of an emergency crisis where med distribution is interrupted? Does anyone know yet if it was anti-depressants this guy was on? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 364293
United States
2/15/2008 3:09 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
all these psychotropics are nazi inventions. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7518
United States
2/15/2008 3:10 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
The parents of the murdered victims should wage a group
lawsuit against the maker of the drug the guy
stopped taking and demand it be dropped as a perscription
drug....way too dangerous to the public health, and make
sure the FDA and anybody who ok'd it see justice done. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 362717
United States
2/15/2008 3:12 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Big pharma forgot to tell him that if you stop taking your drug abruptly, if it is an SSRI like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, you will have severe withdrawal symptoms bordering on nervous breakdown. Google "paxil withdrawal" for similar stories. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 364572
United States
2/15/2008 3:14 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
The stopping medications excuse is a myth, orchestrated to make the offender appear to be random and disconnected. It's a big bunch of steaming crap. This guy was sane, he was trained to perform this evil. He was dressed in black and was silent and calm he was a controlled operative. Willing or unwilling he was a good guy used for evil big brother means. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 364572
United States
2/15/2008 3:17 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Big pharma forgot to tell him that if you stop taking your drug abruptly, if it is an SSRI like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, you will have severe withdrawal symptoms bordering on nervous breakdown. Google "paxil withdrawal" for similar stories. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 362717
Thats BS I took Zoloft for years the tingling is all you get when you stop it's not anything but annoying and a dull barely there feeling. It goes away. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373921
United States
2/15/2008 3:20 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
What is the name of this medical drugd he supposedly had to take? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7518
United States
2/15/2008 3:20 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Big pharma forgot to tell him that if you stop taking your drug abruptly, if it is an SSRI like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, you will have severe withdrawal symptoms bordering on nervous breakdown. Google "paxil withdrawal" for similar stories.
Thats BS I took Zoloft for years the tingling is all you get when you stop it's not anything but annoying and a dull barely there feeling. It goes away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 364572
You are the very tiny minority |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352800
United States
2/15/2008 3:21 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Everyone in America who's on certain meds will get their guns taken away? Or will this help take guns away from anybody who'd had "mental instability" or seen a doctor for depression? |
| Cunning_linguist
User ID: 368607
United States
2/15/2008 3:23 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Wow OP the title of your thread contradicts the point you are trying to make. Instead of trying to force me to believe as you do, why not allow me to view the facts and I may agree with you.
De Bunker Hiding in a Bunker. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230648
United States
2/15/2008 3:23 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Yes, yes.....lets blame "big pharma", lol. What a bunch of dumbasses. Lets also blame the gun makers, the people who make the bullets, the gunpowder companies, the folks who mine the ore used in the metal that makes the guns, powder and bullets, lol. Lets blame EVERYBODY. BLAME, BLAME, BLAME. A bunch of knee jerk idiots you guys are, and it shows you don't have one iota of independent thought.
Lets ignore the millions of people that benefit from the properly prescribed / administered drugs and ban them all because of, what amounts to, a few incidents that don't add up to a flea on a mountain in the statistics world. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 364572
United States
2/15/2008 3:29 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
You are the very tiny minority Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7518
I think it's a fallacy people looking to make a big buck for a little bit of tingling. It's a lot of something over nothing. I have taken alot of these meds and I am quite sane, haven't taken anything in ten years. It doesn't make you want and go randomly commit violent actions, because you are goin through "withdrawls". It's mind over matter, nothing controls your mind but yourself! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283603
United States
2/15/2008 3:29 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Wow OP the title of your thread contradicts the point you are trying to make. Instead of trying to force me to believe as you do, why not allow me to view the facts and I may agree with you. Quoting: Cunning_linguist
Don't you remember when Prozac first came out and some people who suddenly went off it were going berserk and killing people? It was used as a legal defense if you suddenly stopped taking Prozac and did some horrible act.... Google on this subject for tons of examples of people going nutso when they stop takings their meds...
Geez, I thought everyone knew that suddenly stopping your meds can make you fruitloops..... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283603
United States
2/15/2008 3:30 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
You are the very tiny minority
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I think it's a fallacy people looking to make a big buck for a little bit of tingling. It's a lot of something over nothing. I have taken alot of these meds and I am quite sane, haven't taken anything in ten years. It doesn't make you want and go randomly commit violent actions, because you are goin through "withdrawls". It's mind over matter, nothing controls your mind but yourself! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 364572
You may be more mentally stable than some of the people on meds.... |
| Nada Khazar
User ID: 221314
United States
2/15/2008 3:30 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
"Lets ignore the millions of people that benefit from the properly prescribed / administered drugs and ban them all because of, what amounts to, a few incidents that don't add up to a flea on a mountain in the statistics world."
No, let's ignore your pro big pharma bullshit.The majority of people taking that crap are taking it AGAINST THEIR WILL.
The laws big pharma have lobbied for are by far worse than the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. acts for destroying civil liberties.
Right now, they are pushing to be able to forcibly perform surgery to implant pumps in the skull to provide non stop 24/7/365 drugging. |
| Nada Khazar
User ID: 221314
United States
2/15/2008 3:32 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
You are the very tiny minority
I think it's a fallacy people looking to make a big buck for a little bit of tingling. It's a lot of something over nothing. I have taken alot of these meds and I am quite sane, haven't taken anything in ten years. It doesn't make you want and go randomly commit violent actions, because you are goin through "withdrawls". It's mind over matter, nothing controls your mind but yourself! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 364572
I think you are a bullshitting shill who has never taken anything, but are spewing this crap looking to make a big buck from big pharma. |
| wing-ed
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United States
2/15/2008 3:32 PM
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Their is a tread running about demon removal , this tread fits in with it as a demon is what caused the man to lose control !! Praise The Lamb:: Amen The worst of it is the demon will just move on to someone else , unless placed in hell !
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding |
| Raised Crow
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 Mexico
2/15/2008 3:32 PM
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No, no, the angle is this: meds are good for you. If you don't have meds, you do strange stuff and are a danger to others. So, everyone take meds! To keep peaceful and normal, they might say. Psychiatrists wouldn't know a healthy person if they saw one.
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| Anonymous Coward
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2/15/2008 3:33 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Yes, yes.....lets blame "big pharma", lol. What a bunch of dumbasses. Lets also blame the gun makers, the people who make the bullets, the gunpowder companies, the folks who mine the ore used in the metal that makes the guns, powder and bullets, lol. Lets blame EVERYBODY. BLAME, BLAME, BLAME. A bunch of knee jerk idiots you guys are, and it shows you don't have one iota of independent thought.
Lets ignore the millions of people that benefit from the properly prescribed / administered drugs and ban them all because of, what amounts to, a few incidents that don't add up to a flea on a mountain in the statistics world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 230648
Thanks for your sanity, amongst the insane blame everyone and everything posters. Personal responsibility seems to have all but disappeared in this culture. YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR SELF. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 374289
United States
2/15/2008 3:35 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Okay i will speak up. Without my meds I was a mental case. out of touch with reality. With the meds I am normal just like everybody else. I tried many different natural therapies and none of them worked. I resisted taking any medication for about 1 year but in the end I realized I really didnt have a choice. I currently take a very mild dose of 37.5 mg. In time I may make the decision to be weaned off but I will make the choice. I know from experience that not taking these meds can do strange things to you mostly physcial. To be weaned requires medical supervision. Only the shooter is to blame for his actions. Nobody forced him into the meds and nobody made him stop. Mental illness does exist. And in some cases meds are a life saving option. In my case it gave me a normal life one where I can be resonable and enjoy myself. In the case of some emergency where I am unable to get meds. I do keep sample packs at my home. My doseage is low enough that if I couldnt get them I would be able to come down but it would not be easy on me more from a physcial stand point rather than a mental one. But there are probably thousands that would become serious threats to others without them. those are the one s to worry about. Anybody that has enough issues that they can not be trusted to take meds need supervision to insure their saftey and the safety of others. I do not expect any support from this forum. But until you have experienced it you really do not understand the sheer agony of mental illness. I have seen the darkness and lived there. It is not fun. |
| Nada Khazar
User ID: 221314
United States
2/15/2008 3:36 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
Yes, yes.....lets blame "big pharma", lol. What a bunch of dumbasses. Lets also blame the gun makers, the people who make the bullets, the gunpowder companies, the folks who mine the ore used in the metal that makes the guns, powder and bullets, lol. Lets blame EVERYBODY. BLAME, BLAME, BLAME. A bunch of knee jerk idiots you guys are, and it shows you don't have one iota of independent thought.
Lets ignore the millions of people that benefit from the properly prescribed / administered drugs and ban them all because of, what amounts to, a few incidents that don't add up to a flea on a mountain in the statistics world.
Thanks for your sanity, amongst the insane blame everyone and everything posters. Personal responsibility seems to have all but disappeared in this culture. YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR SELF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 364572
Bite yourself for your Bullshit.
Letter of Resignation from the American Psychiatric Association
4 December 1998
Loren R. Mosher, M.D. to Rodrigo Munoz, M.D., President of the American Psychiatric Association (APA)
Dear Rod,
After nearly three decades as a member it is with a mixture of pleasure and disappointment that I submit this letter of resignation from the American Psychiatric Association. The major reason for this action is my belief that I am actually resigning from the American Psychopharmacological Association. Luckily, the organization's true identity requires no change in the acronym.
Unfortunately, APA reflects, and reinforces, in word and deed, our drug dependent society. Yet it helps wage war on "drugs". "Dual diagnosis" clients are a major problem for the field but not because of the "good" drugs we prescribe. "Bad" ones are those that are obtained mostly without a prescription. A Marxist would observe that being a good capitalist organization, APA likes only those drugs from which it can derive a profit -- directly or indirectly. This is not a group for me. At this point in history, in my view, psychiatry has been almost completely bought out by the drug companies. The APA could not continue without the pharmaceutical company support of meetings, symposia, workshops, journal advertising, grand rounds luncheons, unrestricted educational grants etc. etc. Psychiatrists have become the minions of drug company promotions. APA, of course, maintains that its independence and autonomy are not compromised in this enmeshed situation. Anyone with the least bit of common sense attending the annual meeting would observe how the drug company exhibits and "industry sponsored symposia" draw crowds with their various enticements, while the serious scientific sessions are barely attended. Psychiatric training reflects their influence as well: the most important part of a resident's curriculum is the art and quasi-science of dealing drugs, i.e., prescription writing.
These psychopharmacological limitations on our abilities to be complete physicians also limit our intellectual horizons. No longer do we seek to understand whole persons in their social contexts -- rather we are there to realign our patients' neurotransmitters. The problem is that it is very difficult to have a relationship with a neurotransmitter -- whatever its configuration. So, our guild organization provides a rationale, by its neurobiological tunnel vision, for keeping our distance from the molecule conglomerates we have come to define as patients. We condone and promote the widespread use and misuse of toxic chemicals that we know have serious long term effects -- tardive dyskinesia, tardive dementia and serious withdrawal syndromes. So, do I want to be a drug company patsy who treats molecules with their formulary? No, thank you very much. It saddens me that after 35 years as a psychiatrist I look forward to being dissociated from such an organization. In no way does it represent my interests. It is not within my capacities to buy into the current biomedical-reductionistic model heralded by the psychiatric leadership as once again marrying us to somatic medicine. This is a matter of fashion, politics and, like the pharmaceutical house connection, money.
In addition, APA has entered into an unholy alliance with NAMI (I don't remember the members being asked if they supported such an association) such that the two organizations have adopted similar public belief systems about the nature of madness. While professing itself the "champion of their clients" the APA is supporting non-clients, the parents, in their wishes to be in control, via legally enforced dependency, of their mad/bad offspring: NAMI with tacit APA approval, has set out a pro-neuroleptic drug and easy commitment-institutionalization agenda that violates the civil rights of their offspring. For the most part we stand by and allow this fascistic agenda to move forward. Their psychiatric god, Dr. E. Fuller Torrey, is allowed to diagnose and recommend treatment to those in the NAMI organization with whom he disagrees. Clearly, a violation of medical ethics. Does APA protest? Of course not, because he is speaking what APA agrees with, but can't explicitly espouse. He is allowed to be a foil; after all - he is no longer a member of APA. (Slick work APA!) The shortsightedness of this marriage of convenience between APA, NAMI, and the drug companies (who gleefully support both groups because of their shared pro-drug stance) is an abomination. I want no part of a psychiatry of oppression and social control.
"Biologically based brain diseases" are certainly convenient for families and practitioners alike. It is no-fault insurance against personal responsibility. We are all just helplessly caught up in a swirl of brain pathology for which no one, except DNA, is responsible. Now, to begin with, anything that has an anatomically defined specific brain pathology becomes the province of neurology (syphilis is an excellent example). So, to be consistent with this "brain disease" view, all the major psychiatric disorders would become the territory of our neurologic colleagues. Without having surveyed them I believe they would eschew responsibility for these problematic individuals. However, consistency would demand our giving over "biologic brain diseases" to them. The fact that there is no evidence confirming the brain disease attribution is, at this point, irrelevant. What we are dealing with here is fashion, politics and money. This level of intellectual /scientific dishonesty is just too egregious for me to continue to support by my membership.
I view with no surprise that psychiatric training is being systematically disavowed by American medical school graduates. This must give us cause for concern about the state of today's psychiatry. It must mean -- at least in part that they view psychiatry as being very limited and unchallenging. To me it seems clear that we are headed toward a situation in which, except for academics, most psychiatric practitioners will have no real, relationships -- so vital to the healing process -- with the disturbed and disturbing persons they treat. Their sole role will be that of prescription writers -- ciphers in the guise of being "helpers".
Finally, why must the APA pretend to know more than it does? DSM IV is the fabrication upon which psychiatry seeks acceptance by medicine in general. Insiders know it is more a political than scientific document. To its credit it says so -- although its brief apologia is rarely noted. DSM IV has become a bible and a money making best seller -- its major failings notwithstanding. It confines and defines practice, some take it seriously, others more realistically. It is the way to get paid. Diagnostic reliability is easy to attain for research projects. The issue is what do the categories tell us? Do they in fact accurately represent the person with a problem? They don't, and can't, because there are no external validating criteria for psychiatric diagnoses. There is neither a blood test nor specific anatomic lesions for any major psychiatric disorder. So, where are we? APA as an organization has implicitly (sometimes explicitly as well) bought into a theoretical hoax. Is psychiatry a hoax -- as practiced today? Unfortunately, the answer is mostly yes.
What do I recommend to the organization upon leaving after experiencing three decades of its history?
1. To begin with, let us be ourselves. Stop taking on unholy alliances without the members' permission.
2. Get real about science, politics and money. Label each for what it is -- that is, be honest.
3.Get out of bed with NAMI and the drug companies. APA should align itself, if one believes its rhetoric, with the true consumer groups, i.e., the ex-patients, psychiatric survivors etc.
4.Talk to the membership -- I can't be alone in my views.
We seem to have forgotten a basic principle -- the need to be patient/client/consumer satisfaction oriented. I always remember Manfred Bleuler's wisdom: "Loren, you must never forget that you are your patient's employee." In the end they will determine whether or not psychiatry survives in the service marketplace. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373701
United States
2/15/2008 3:36 PM | | Re: US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again | Quote |
i guess we can't live in white neighborhoods also.
(this is in response to all the "black/hispanic" bashing from a previous shooting rampage) |
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