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Natural medicines – the safest way to avoid death

 
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REPORT FROM NEW ZEALAND
Natural medicines – the safest way to avoid death

A report just released by the Acting Chair of the Coroner’s Council has shown natural medicines have the lowest fatality rate of all medical treatments in this country.

Despite extensive research, coroner Dr Wallace Bain found no deaths have occurred in this country due to natural medicines such as vitamins, minerals and herbal products.

Dr Bain, who is also a trained pharmacist and lawyer, undertook the study in light of growing opposition to new legislation that will see New Zealand’s natural health industry come under Australian laws.

The safety of natural products is often sited as a reason for the need for such a move.

The Labour government plans that the Australia New Zealand Therapeutic Products Authority (ANZTPA) will soon replace the current Medsafe agency as part of a `trans-Tasman harmonisation’ push. Opponents fear this move will decimate New Zealand’s natural health industry as has already occurred in Australia.

At present lack of support from New Zealand First, the Maori and Green parties is the only thing stopping the legislation coming into effect.

Says Dr Bain: “In my capacity as Acting Chair of the Coroner’s Council, I enquired of all Coroners as to whether or not from a search of their Coronial findings they could find any instances where there had been a problem with any of these natural products.

“They were asked to provide any information from inquests where these products had been involved whether or not a death had resulted. At the same time the Coronial records held by the Ministry of Justice in Wellington were searched at my request by ministry staff.”

Dr Bain’s study returned a finding of zero deaths from natural remedies.

His only findings were:

* A three-year-old child who choked to death on a vitamin tablet in 2003 that was too large for the child to swallow
* A woman who terminated her third pregnancy after a scan showed the foetus had spina bifida. The woman had been taking 300mg of folic acid a day rather than the recommended 800mg per day
* A man who died from non-viral hepatitis of unknown origin who also had a pre-existing prostrate cancer condition. The man had been taking an Indian herbal product K4. The Corner’s report said despite no certainty of a link with the herbal product, the remedy such be banned until more was known about its effects on liver toxicity
* Some ongoing inquests into party pills

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cayenne pepper will save the universe.
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New Zealand has been targetted quite a while ago, and this kind of control over the medicine is only one of the main steps. Fucking with the civil medicines is one of the main things the NWO'ers do. Someone should try to raise national awareness about the hidden-hand bullshit.
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cayenne pepper will save the universe.
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Yes, I take it 3 times a day, 1/2 teasp in warm water; however, I'd love to hear any information tips about it you may know, that Im yet to know.

Only thing I've come to learn about it, mainly, its that it is a super booster to taking all other vitamin related tablets (well, the ones that are worthwhile, such as COQ10, Fish Oil, Primrose, Vitamin E, B groups).

Also it stops heart attacks.

Creates *New tissues* (read about it renewed damaged lung tissues one time).

Anything else you can enlighten about this for me?

By the way, how is the best way to get hold of B17, naturally?

many thanks in advance
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cayenne pepper will save the universe.
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cayenne pepper will save the universe.


Yes, I take it 3 times a day, 1/2 teasp in warm water; however, I'd love to hear any information tips about it you may know, that Im yet to know.

Only thing I've come to learn about it, mainly, its that it is a super booster to taking all other vitamin related tablets (well, the ones that are worthwhile, such as COQ10, Fish Oil, Primrose, Vitamin E, B groups).

Also it stops heart attacks.

Creates *New tissues* (read about it renewed damaged lung tissues one time).

Anything else you can enlighten about this for me?

By the way, how is the best way to get hold of B17, naturally?

many thanks in advance
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Try apricot kernels for B17.
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Be your own doctor, inform yourself about natural medicine, plants etc.

Do not let anyone stick a needle in you. stay away from the pharma related people (doctors, hospitals etc.) eat healthy and you never need them.

If we all ignore them, they go away by themselves
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The best way to avoid death is to strengthen your soul. As a matter of fact that ultimately no matter how you look at it is the only way to avoid death.
Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

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cayenne pepper will save the universe.


Yes, I take it 3 times a day, 1/2 teasp in warm water; however, I'd love to hear any information tips about it you may know, that Im yet to know.

Only thing I've come to learn about it, mainly, its that it is a super booster to taking all other vitamin related tablets (well, the ones that are worthwhile, such as COQ10, Fish Oil, Primrose, Vitamin E, B groups).

Also it stops heart attacks.

Creates *New tissues* (read about it renewed damaged lung tissues one time).

Anything else you can enlighten about this for me?

By the way, how is the best way to get hold of B17, naturally?

many thanks in advance


Try apricot kernels for B17.
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Hi there, ok, just an ask if you would'nt mind (Im a little ignorant on a few things).

As Apricots to buy are quite expensive, well, er, compared to other fruits, I'm definately going to buy one, and yes, I'll have to wait a few year for it to start bearing fruit.
(I think three to be precise, unless Im able to buy one advanced, which I'll gladly invest in).

My other question is, in the interim, I'm happy to buy them.

So...the actual nut inside, the apricot kernel, what do I do with it? To break it down I mean?

Should I boil it? Is there a way to soften it? Or do I get like a nut cracker and break it up, then, I guess, I can put the broken pieces into my coffee bean grinder.

And then what?...put it into hot water, drink when its soaked or steeped as a tea?

Or when its blended enough to be very fine particles, can I just then take it orally, like a powder by the teaspoon, in some water?

Sorry to sound dumb, but I'd so appreciate any help with the above.

Thanks again...oh and by the way, I found out that MOST oranges in supermarkets are USELESS, as Vitamin C content is only at full strength, when an orange is picked from the tree. Was devastated to find this out.

I know that peppers (called capsicums over here in OZ) have loads of vitamin C, so I just pop them in a blender with water and blend them into a juice (with apples to make it taste a little kinder)

Ok, Im done, over to you, or anyone who has some advice on the questions above. hf
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by the way, the reasons the oranges are useless is that MOST of them are picked and FROZEN for up to 12 months, before the public gets hold of them, absolute disgrace when I found this out!

And I've heard their banning the bitter almond tree over there in the US.

Well WE HAVE ONE..and its a bl....y secret where!
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The apricot kernels taste really nice ,a bit like marzipan. Just eat them raw. Not too many.
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The apricot kernels taste really nice ,a bit like marzipan. Just eat them raw. Not too many.
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lol...ok, I will, but HOW MUCH!

and...after they're broken down?...man, they are'nt soft like an apricot (pardon the pun)
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I planted two apricot trees three years ago and last summer I harvested over 50 pounds of delicious, fresh apricots. Fruit trees are wonderful!

I also buy vitamin C powder and take it every day. I instantly feel better after 1 gram of C powder.

I am 67 and am in perfect health. I am on NO meds and never will take that poison. Chinese herbs are miraculous.

hf
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The best way to avoid death is to strengthen your soul. As a matter of fact that ultimately no matter how you look at it is the only way to avoid death.
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Avoid death ?? Strengthen your soul ?? What drugs are you on ? wtf are you talking about ?
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Causes of illnesses: the impurities

« Illnesses can have all kinds of causes, but in reality what lies at the basis of an illness, of whatever kind, are the impure elements a person has allowed to penetrate their physical organism or their psychic organism. These elements cause disorders because they do not vibrate in harmony with the healthy part of their organism. If, however, they succeed in driving them out or transforming them, health is restored. This is why purity is so important for our mental and physical health. And by purity I mean rejection of any element that interferes with the proper functioning of our organism. Unfortunately, as soon as people hear the word purity, they stop listening. Purity, to them, is a restricting concept, outmoded, good only for convents, and so they continue to swallow whatever comes along: indigestible food, polluted atmosphere, dark thoughts and chaotic feelings. When will they understand that it is these very impurities that make them ill? If they worked on purity their health would improve, they would become more intelligent, wiser and stronger. »

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« There are two main causes which are producing diseases and sufferings:
- first is physical: incorrect food and incorrect breathing;
- second is psychic: incorrect thoughts and incorrect feelings.

A great part of diseases are due to disorders of feelings; and many diseases are due to disorders of reflexion. »

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« How does an illness start and how does it spread? It begins first of all with a microscopic germ which, as it develops, eventually overwhelms the entire person. This germ is an idea which attaches itself to the mental plane in an individual. From there it descends to the astral plane where it is expressed in emotions. Next it manifests as actions, and finally it settles in the physical body. It is imperative that each of you be sufficiently conscious to stop this process before it appears as an illness on the physical plane. Say to yourself: "I'm not thinking correctly, I'm experiencing negative emotions which lead me to behave in deplorable ways, and these are the germs of future illnesses! To prevent this state from spreading to the physical plane, I will begin by attacking the causes on the mental and astral planes where they are found." It is by keeping watch over your thoughts and feelings that you really work for your health. »

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Definition of health: harmony

« Health is the result of the work all the organs of our body carry out together and in harmony for the good of our whole being. From the moment, therefore, an element enters our organism that does not obey this law of harmony it creates disturbances, and these disturbances, this disharmony is what we know as illness. The same phenomenon occurs in the psychic organism. When the thoughts, feelings and desires of human beings let in elements that do not vibrate in harmony with their entire inner being, they also let in illness. So, when you feel troubled, instead of looking for complicated reasons why you should feel this way, understand that you have allowed chaotic and dark thoughts and feelings into your head and your heart. Seek them out and try to eliminate them. »

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The best way to avoid death is to strengthen your soul. As a matter of fact that ultimately no matter how you look at it is the only way to avoid death.


Avoid death ?? Strengthen your soul ?? What drugs are you on ? wtf are you talking about ?
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Realize this: there is no death. When you shed this body you simply go into another plane of existence - a beautiful one.

Earth is a school planet. A place to face obstacles and challenge your soul. It is meant to be a harsh place. Be happy and helpful anyway.

hf
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« There are two main causes which are producing diseases and sufferings:
- first is physical: incorrect food and incorrect breathing;
- second is psychic: incorrect thoughts and incorrect feelings.

A great part of diseases are due to disorders of feelings; and many diseases are due to disorders of reflexion. »

Peter Deunov
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How true!!
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By the way, how is the best way to get hold of B17, naturally?

many thanks in advance
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Eat 5 apples a day and chew the seeds

pectine removes toxins and vit b17 is in the apple seeds

Also eat flax seeds, highest omega 3 source in the world.
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I planted two apricot trees three years ago and last summer I harvested over 50 pounds of delicious, fresh apricots. Fruit trees are wonderful!

I also buy vitamin C powder and take it every day. I instantly feel better after 1 gram of C powder.

I am 67 and am in perfect health. I am on NO meds and never will take that poison. Chinese herbs are miraculous.

hf
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Oh great to hear!!!!

Can you tell me about the Vitamin C Powder, its brand name, and can we get it over here in OZ???

Chinese herbs..ok..so which can you recommend?

by the way, our WHOLE diet change began with discovering Cayenne Pepper about a year ago, thats where it all started.

From then on, we just researched more and more.

And, on this great site, someone told us about COQ10...
it saved my husband's life.

You see, I had this 'intuitive' gut instinct about the 'Cholestral' drugs, the local GP put hubby on.

Low and behold, a day or so later, someone on here posted about STATIN drugs.

Oh sure the Cholestral drugs would have lowered his cholestral, BUT, the statin drugs in them would have KILLED HIM!

Also, I found MACA powder. AMAZING STUFF, threw out many vitamin tabs (by the way CENOVIS is pure junk - exposed by local TV current affair program...apparently the SWISSE brand is *ok*)

Ok, I have a real curly...is it POSSIBLE to reverse menopause by healthy eating? What I mean is, I'm NOT yet in it (48), and due to healthy diet changes, its helping, so, what increases keeping women being able to conceive, prolonging the ability to conceive???? Is this possible?

I know that there are tinctures that really helps, but most *advertising* of 'fertility help* are mostly about making money out of woman desparate to conceive. Sad isnt it!
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Being or becoming healthy in most cases is simple.

Do a total detox
change your diet and habits.

Most illnesses/allergies, auto immune disfunccions will be cured.

Our bodies are depleted by the bad food we eat.

Dont take supplements only use whole (organic)foods and seeds as they

occur in nature.

Use apple cider vinegar (2 table spoons a day)
Eat a little bit of aloe vera every day.
Cook with cayenne,oregano, turmeric, cinnamon.
Eat flax seeds (2 tablespoons every day)
Use sea salt for minerals.
Eat an apple a day (chew the seeds)

If you include these in your diet it will slowly detox the body and

restore blood sugar/insuline levels. It will help balance the immune

system and takes care of auto immune diseases. Take Milk thistle seeds

(tablespoon a day) to help the liver get rid of the detox poisons.
Try this for 3 weeks and be prepared to be amazed.

Inlcude staying away from sugar, red meat, stuff like aspartame and you

will be fine.
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Ive become very into nutrition and using food as medicine.. Yogurt with live cultures, veggies, barley and other whole grains and raw honey all play a role in my current regime.. I have lost 20 pounds and feel great..
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By the way, how is the best way to get hold of B17, naturally?

many thanks in advance



Eat 5 apples a day and chew the seeds

pectine removes toxins and vit b17 is in the apple seeds

Also eat flax seeds, highest omega 3 source in the world.
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Thankyou also for this, I have Flaxseed Oil (certified organic), is this ok, say a teasp a day (btw, it takes like C...P)
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Being or becoming healthy in most cases is simple.

Do a total detox
change your diet and habits.

Most illnesses/allergies, auto immune disfunccions will be cured.

Our bodies are depleted by the bad food we eat.

Dont take supplements only use whole (organic)foods and seeds as they

occur in nature.

Use apple cider vinegar (2 table spoons a day)
Eat a little bit of aloe vera every day.
Cook with cayenne,oregano, turmeric, cinnamon.
Eat flax seeds (2 tablespoons every day)
Use sea salt for minerals.
Eat an apple a day (chew the seeds)

If you include these in your diet it will slowly detox the body and

restore blood sugar/insuline levels. It will help balance the immune

system and takes care of auto immune diseases. Take Milk thistle seeds

(tablespoon a day) to help the liver get rid of the detox poisons.
Try this for 3 weeks and be prepared to be amazed.

Inlcude staying away from sugar, red meat, stuff like aspartame and you

will be fine.
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OK

Apple Cider ... Check, do that already

Aloe Vera?? How do I get this/where from etc (tabs/liquid)

Cook with Tumeric/Cummin, will add the cinamon and oregano

Flaxseed Oil (how much per day? 1 teaspoon?)

Will eat apples from now on with the pips, will just blend the whole apple

Sea Salt ... Check, use only Himalyan or Celtic, the SUPERMARKET ones are PURE POISON

Oh, where do I get the Milk Thistle from? Is it powder or liquid or tabs etc?
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Oh I forgot, about the sugar, is ALL sugar bad, we have it in the odd coffee, organic sugar.

thanks
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more on apples:
Fact: Don't panic. Apples are fine, it's their seeds that can be toxic. So are the seeds of pears, peaches, apricots and plums. Eating the seeds is rarely a problem, unless you eat dozens. The bark and roots are a source of antibiotics for treating bacterial infections.
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more on apples:
Fact: Don't panic. Apples are fine, it's their seeds that can be toxic. So are the seeds of pears, peaches, apricots and plums. Eating the seeds is rarely a problem, unless you eat dozens. The bark and roots are a source of antibiotics for treating bacterial infections.
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WTF? I thought the seeds are fine?

Are you a Pharma SHILL?
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It's my understanding vitamin B17 (Laetril , Amigdaline which is a poison just for cancer cells) is in the seeds of apricot and was forbidden because it's the remedy against cancer which affects the whole monopoly of those who make profit out of colective disease and death.

Did you know a human being just needs half teaspoon of salt per day? Can you imagine all salt we consume in barbecues, chips, bread and so on? Refined sugar actually FEEDS cancer and hundred diseases.
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EVERYTHING can be a poison.

Drink 8 liters of water a day and see how soon you die.

It depends on the doses.

As long as there is balance there is no problem.

Never take a bigger doses as you would do in nature.

Eating more than 5 apples is overdoing so no good.

Aloe vera can be bought 96% to 100% pure juice.
Have a shot a day. Better is to buy your own plant and start growing. Shops are expensive.

The herbs can also be planted.

STAY AWAY FROM REFINED OILS AND FATS

Use ONLY cold pressed natural olive, coconut, flax oil.

STAY AWAY FROM ANTI_OXIDANTS

Only the natural ones occurring in natural foods are good for us.

Flax oil can be used in stead of flax seeds.
Take 4 table spoons a day. Seeds are better as they are better absorbed and put to use in the body.

To get the same result from the flax oil it should be mixed with cottage cheese to make it water soluble and easier for the body to be absorbed. (see Budwig)

Alternative medicine mostly makes the same mistake as conventional, namely putting everything in pills.
Pills dont work. stick to the natural forms of supplements vits etc. Its cheaper and THE ONLY WAY.

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