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HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE
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Juanwhoknows
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2/17/2008 8:55 PM
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Many people are learning survival skills and the subject of most survival posts centers around guns, gold and bug out bags.
I agree that those are important matters to consider however, they skip a very important, easily learned skill that can produce large quantites of food in a relatively small space even if the soil becomes fucked up - hydroponics.
It is faster, less suceptable to disease, and some have argued more nutricious than soil grown food. It can use 1/20 of the water needed to grow plants in soil and the yeild is phenominal.
For all of you that have shown interest in survival skills, this is a skill you should learn. It can be used for great benifit even if the shit doesn't hit the fan.
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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malu 
User ID: 321190
2/17/2008 8:59 PM
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too bad underground dude is not here, he knows a bit about this subject
its all good to know
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:03 PM
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too bad underground dude is not here, he knows a bit about this subject
its all good to know Quoting: malu
Hey Malu how goes it?
I'd like to share some thoughts with him.
But I'd really like to get some people pointed in this direction
who have never even thought of this. It's not difficult and the
amount of food you can produce is really impressive.
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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malu
User ID: 321190
2/17/2008 9:07 PM
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i can't speak for him, but what little i know of his system, it sounds impressive, i don't know if his fish farming is part of it or a seperate system, but that is interesting too
it is something i know little about, but dirt, thats a different story :)
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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F.B.Nyte
User ID: 367872
2/17/2008 9:09 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
too bad underground dude is not here, he knows a bit about this subject
its all good to know
Hey Malu how goes it?
I'd like to share some thoughts with him.
But I'd really like to get some people pointed in this direction
who have never even thought of this. It's not difficult and the
amount of food you can produce is really impressive. Quoting: Juanwhoknows
I know I could google it,but do you have any good links??? |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:11 PM
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I know a little about dirt also.
Just started studying hydroponics
and it is the future of food production.
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:15 PM
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too bad underground dude is not here, he knows a bit about this subject
its all good to know
Hey Malu how goes it?
I'd like to share some thoughts with him.
But I'd really like to get some people pointed in this direction
who have never even thought of this. It's not difficult and the
amount of food you can produce is really impressive.
I know I could google it,but do you have any good links??? Quoting: F.B.Nyte 367872
There are tons of links but this is the wesite of the most prolific writer on the subject Howard M. Resh. [link to www.howardresh.com]
He has written several books all of which are the best books on the subject I've come across.
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 374769
2/17/2008 9:17 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
When there is little or no electrcity or distribution functioning,
you will not be working hydroponics,
but a shovel. |
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Tangwystyl
User ID: 354457
2/17/2008 9:17 PM
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thanks for the link.
I had a friend with a huge hydroponics setup.. But it wasn't for veggies.. lol
He's in jail now. doh!
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The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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F.B.Nyte
User ID: 367872
2/17/2008 9:17 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
I know a little about dirt also.
Just started studying hydroponics
and it is the future of food production. Quoting: Juanwhoknows
I Ran into this about compost a while back.
[link to thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com]
Thanks for your link above. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 372258
2/17/2008 9:18 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
aquaponics is even better. fish produce waste, which is used to feed the plants, and you get fish and produce from one system. you can even feed some fish the plants you grew.
deadly easy and been around since ancient times. |
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NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja
User ID: 375481
2/17/2008 9:20 PM
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Many people are learning survival skills and the subject of most survival posts center around guns, gold and bug out bags.
I agree that those are important matters to consider however, they skip a very important, easily learned skill that can produce large quantites of food in a relatively small space even if the soil becomes fucked up - hydroponics.
It is faster, less suceptable to disease, and some have argued more nutricious than soil grown food. It can use 1/20 of the water needed to grow plants in soil and the yeild is phenominal.
For all of you that have shown interest in survival skills, this is a skill you should learn. It can be used for great benifit even if the shit doesn't hit the fan. Quoting: Juanwhoknows
I would have to agree with you here. Even if the water become s "dirty" you could boil it first to try and clean it up for production.
[link to www.youtube.com]
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
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malu
User ID: 321190
2/17/2008 9:21 PM
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aquaponics is even better. fish produce waste, which is used to feed the plants, and you get fish and produce from one system. you can even feed some fish the plants you grew.
deadly easy and been around since ancient times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 372258
that is what i was thinking when speaking of UD's system, a complete system
i was also thinking , i wonder what else you could do to have it become an oxygen generator?
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:22 PM
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When there is little or no electrcity or distribution functioning,
you will not be working hydroponics,
but a shovel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 374769
Nothing a little solar panel and DC pump couldn't cure. ;)
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 362810
2/17/2008 9:23 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
Vegetable growth would be one of my hydroponic interest.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 372258
2/17/2008 9:24 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
aquaponics is even better. fish produce waste, which is used to feed the plants, and you get fish and produce from one system. you can even feed some fish the plants you grew.
deadly easy and been around since ancient times.
that is what i was thinking when speaking of UD's system, a complete system
i was also thinking , i wonder what else you could do to have it become an oxygen generator? Quoting: malu
well, you could use algae scrubbers - quite easy to do, and duckweed.
duckweed can be fed to fish and can double its mass daily. the amount of oxygen coming off that type of photosynthetic activity would be significant. |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:25 PM
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aquaponics is even better. fish produce waste, which is used to feed the plants, and you get fish and produce from one system. you can even feed some fish the plants you grew.
deadly easy and been around since ancient times.
that is what i was thinking when speaking of UD's system, a complete system
i was also thinking , i wonder what else you could do to have it become an oxygen generator? Quoting: malu
This is the next step in the process. Talapia love this set up.
Have to think about the oxygen generation.
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 372258
2/17/2008 9:25 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
i am actually planning on setting up this type of system on a small scale shortly.
tilapia, tomatoes, lettuce, duckweed, herbs etc. |
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NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja
User ID: 375481
2/17/2008 9:26 PM
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When there is little or no electrcity or distribution functioning,
you will not be working hydroponics,
but a shovel.
Nothing a little solar panel and DC pump couldn't cure. ;) Quoting: Juanwhoknows
Not to mention you could use the "waste" from the plants for biomass energy.
[link to www.youtube.com]
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:27 PM
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aquaponics is even better. fish produce waste, which is used to feed the plants, and you get fish and produce from one system. you can even feed some fish the plants you grew.
deadly easy and been around since ancient times.
that is what i was thinking when speaking of UD's system, a complete system
i was also thinking , i wonder what else you could do to have it become an oxygen generator?
well, you could use algae scrubbers - quite easy to do, and duckweed.
duckweed can be fed to fish and can double its mass daily. the amount of oxygen coming off that type of photosynthetic activity would be significant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 372258
Well there ya go.
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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Tangwystyl
User ID: 354457
2/17/2008 9:28 PM
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Lots of pictures of small medium and large aquaponics setups here..
[link to www.backyardaquaponics.com]
Looks pretty cool.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 372258
2/17/2008 9:28 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
o2 can be also be introduced to the system in lift pipes that lift the water from the tanks to the hydroponic racks, in a similar manner to how a protein skimmer works (for moving water, not cleaning it so much).
you can also use air stones, but this would not do any labour for you, where the o2 lift pipes would. |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:29 PM
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This is very cool!
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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F.B.Nyte
User ID: 367872
2/17/2008 9:30 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
aquaponics is even better. fish produce waste, which is used to feed the plants, and you get fish and produce from one system. you can even feed some fish the plants you grew.
deadly easy and been around since ancient times.
that is what i was thinking when speaking of UD's system, a complete system
i was also thinking , i wonder what else you could do to have it become an oxygen generator? Quoting: malu
malu, I'd have to dig but it seems like a bit of hydrogen peroxide added to the water not only helps with the oxygen but also helps keep rot (Bad bacteria) under control. |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:31 PM
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i am actually planning on setting up this type of system on a small scale shortly.
tilapia, tomatoes, lettuce, duckweed, herbs etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 372258
That sounds like a fantastic setup!
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 375566
2/17/2008 9:33 PM | | Re: HYDROPONICS -- A VITAL SURVIVAL SKILL FOR THE FUTURE | Quote |
Vegetable growth would be one of my hydroponic interest.
what? can you grow animals on hydroponics? |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:34 PM
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Many people are learning survival skills and the subject of most survival posts center around guns, gold and bug out bags.
I agree that those are important matters to consider however, they skip a very important, easily learned skill that can produce large quantites of food in a relatively small space even if the soil becomes fucked up - hydroponics.
It is faster, less suceptable to disease, and some have argued more nutricious than soil grown food. It can use 1/20 of the water needed to grow plants in soil and the yeild is phenominal.
For all of you that have shown interest in survival skills, this is a skill you should learn. It can be used for great benifit even if the shit doesn't hit the fan.
I would have to agree with you here. Even if the water become s "dirty" you could boil it first to try and clean it up for production. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja
There are setups that "filter" the water through gravel.
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja
User ID: 375481
2/17/2008 9:34 PM
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i am actually planning on setting up this type of system on a small scale shortly.
tilapia, tomatoes, lettuce, duckweed, herbs etc.
That sounds like a fantastic setup! Quoting: Juanwhoknows
Tilapia the fish right?
There was a Dirty Jobs episode where they went to a place where they raised, I think trout, maybe, and the used Tilapia to clean the trout "waste" water, was pretty sweet and you could still eat the Tilapia.
[link to www.youtube.com]
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
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malu
User ID: 321190
2/17/2008 9:35 PM
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aquaponics is even better. fish produce waste, which is used to feed the plants, and you get fish and produce from one system. you can even feed some fish the plants you grew.
deadly easy and been around since ancient times.
that is what i was thinking when speaking of UD's system, a complete system
i was also thinking , i wonder what else you could do to have it become an oxygen generator?
well, you could use algae scrubbers - quite easy to do, and duckweed.
duckweed can be fed to fish and can double its mass daily. the amount of oxygen coming off that type of photosynthetic activity would be significant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 372258
i have read that the quality of oxygen is depleting, and that it could get much worse, so i thought if it could compliment the system, and help you ,,, hey what the heck?
especially if you had to remain in a closed enviroment for extended periods
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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malu
User ID: 321190
2/17/2008 9:36 PM
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Vegetable growth would be one of my hydroponic interest.
what? can you grow animals on hydroponics?
well fish and water do mix :)
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Juanwhoknows
User ID: 375585
2/17/2008 9:37 PM
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i am actually planning on setting up this type of system on a small scale shortly.
tilapia, tomatoes, lettuce, duckweed, herbs etc.
That sounds like a fantastic setup!
Tilapia the fish right?
There was a Dirty Jobs episode where they went to a place where they raised, I think trout, maybe, and the used Tilapia to clean the trout "waste" water, was pretty sweet and you could still eat the Tilapia. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja
Yes, talapia tastes pretty good.
"One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." --- Ayn Rand |
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