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Gosch kidnapping has direct ties to Vatican Cover up

 
Golden Gates
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02/25/2008 12:23 PM
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On Valentines Day 2008 Noreen Gosch posted the most recent photo she's received of her son Johnny.

www.johnnygosch.com

"It is like so many others, as Johnny appears bound and gagged once again. However, this photo has something very significant in the background. It is a laundry bag from a "camp". The photo was taken in the early 1980's not long after my son was kidnapped. This photo appeared on a Russian Pedophile Website around Thanksgiving 2007 and sent to me a short time later. Someone has had it in their possession/collection for a very long time."

The laundry bag reads "Camp Caribou." Camp Caribou belongs to none other than the Catholic order Legionaries of Christ led by pedophile priest Rev. Marcial Maciel Degollado.

[link to www.regainnetwork.org]

Maciel also founded the Catholic Youth program "Education Culture Youth Development."

ECYD keeps teenagers practicing their faith through group meetings, commitments, and goals. This club is for is for teenagers ages 11 - 16

[link to www.catholickidsnation.com]

The Vatican never recognized the accusations against Maciel directly, or acknowledge his alleged victims.

Often called the "Golden Boy" because of his appeal to the most powerfull of the elite pedophiles, we now know JOhnny Gosch was more than likely also one of Maciel's victims.
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HOLY SHIT!

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ratzi-nazi-pedo-pimp
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Damn!
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare
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02/25/2008 01:44 PM
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interesting
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On Valentines Day 2008 Noreen Gosch posted the most recent photo she's received of her son Johnny.

www.johnnygosch.com

"It is like so many others, as Johnny appears bound and gagged once again. However, this photo has something very significant in the background. It is a laundry bag from a "camp". The photo was taken in the early 1980's not long after my son was kidnapped. This photo appeared on a Russian Pedophile Website around Thanksgiving 2007 and sent to me a short time later. Someone has had it in their possession/collection for a very long time."

The laundry bag reads "Camp Caribou." Camp Caribou belongs to none other than the Catholic order Legionaries of Christ led by pedophile priest Rev. Marcial Maciel Degollado.

[link to www.regainnetwork.org]

Maciel also founded the Catholic Youth program "Education Culture Youth Development."

ECYD keeps teenagers practicing their faith through group meetings, commitments, and goals. This club is for is for teenagers ages 11 - 16

[link to www.catholickidsnation.com]

The Vatican never recognized the accusations against Maciel directly, or acknowledge his alleged victims.

Often called the "Golden Boy" because of his appeal to the most powerfull of the elite pedophiles, we now know JOhnny Gosch was more than likely also one of Maciel's victims.
 Quoting: Golden Gates 153188

Have you got a link to Johnny's pic, op.
This case just goes on and on....could he be Jeff Gannon?
turtles know: low profiles are best.
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02/25/2008 03:14 PM
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here's Noreen Gosch's website
[link to www.johnnygosch.com]
fieldolight

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02/25/2008 03:35 PM
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Noreen's site is heartbreaking.
Pedophiles run our country. Google Bush pedophile....
over 800,000 hits....
turtles know: low profiles are best.
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02/25/2008 03:57 PM
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Jeez, scroll down and look at those pictures of the little boy chained to the table. Why the hell aren't those photos being broadcast all over the world, to help identify the child and the perps?
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02/25/2008 03:59 PM
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Oh, and, remember in the Franklin Cover Up, Boystown was feeding kids into the pedophile rings. Boystown is a Catholic operation.

You here that, POLLYANNUH?
*PRAYERS 4 JOHNNY*
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02/25/2008 04:13 PM
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JESUS WEPT...

I CANNOT FIND WORDS OP

I SCREAM AND RANT AND NOTHING HAPPENS. JUST MORE HARDSHIPS

THERE IS A STORY OFF BBC THAT BROKE TWO DAYS AGO ABOUT A LITTLE 3 YR OLD BODY SHOWING UP THAT WAS PART OF A CHILDREN'S HOME IN JERSEY ISLAND THERE OFF THE U.K.

APPARENTLY IT TRIGGERED LOADS OF FOLKS FROM THE TIMEPERIOD TO 'RECALL' AND THEY CRASHED THE SWITCHBOARD NETWORK WITH JERSEY LEO'S TO SHARE TIPS OF THE 1950'S/1960'S ERA CRIMES

THE VASTNESS OF THE CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO BUY/SELL KIDS WAS COMPLETELY MINDBOGGLING

I SUSPECT A RATZ NEST WILL BE UNCOVERED HERE SHORTLY....

TAKES A WHILE TO LOAD

[link to search.news.yahoo.com]

[link to www.dailyrecord.co.uk]
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Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shall we post to VATICAN ?!?!?
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Pin this
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MAciel died two weeks ago.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, 'TED'
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FROM THE TELEGRAPH UK

Monday, February 25, 2008

By Deborah McAleese

The Ulster police officer heading the investigation into the discovery of a child's remains at a former children's home in Jersey today spoke of a "disturbing picture of endemic abuse" at the site, stretching back over 50 years.

Mr Harper, who is now Jersey's Deputy Chief Police Officer, said that the excavation at the site - which featured as a police station in the TV series Bergerac and is now Jersey's youth hostel - took place after a number of abuse victims said they believed human remains were buried at the scene.

The (child abuse) investigation started when police became concerned about the number of persons in a position of responsibility caring for children being arrested, charged and sometimes convicted of paedophile type offences.

"Once (the investigation) was public we were overwhelmed with the number of people saying they were assaulted either physically or sexually at the care home, and our investigation has continued since then," Mr Harper said..."

FROM THIS IS LONDON, UK

[link to www.thisislondon.co.uk]

Notorious paedophile dubbed the 'Beast of Jersey' linked to orphanage horror as suspected body count hits seven
Last updated at 21:07pm on 25.02.08

A notorious paedophile dubbed the "Beast of Jersey" visited the Haut de la Garenne orphanage dressed as Father Christmas during his reign of terror in the 1960s, it has emerged today.

Sick Edward Paisnel was jailed for 30 years in 1971 for a string of sex attacks on children and women spanning 11 years.

News of his visits emerged as police revealed they were focusing their searches on a bricked up cellar - already branded the "cellar of death."

Today, more forensic tents went up around the sprawling site as the massive operation intensified.
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02/25/2008 04:52 PM
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MODS, please do pin this shit.

No special treatment for the vatican or bush clan.
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02/25/2008 05:00 PM
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Bump and thanks for posting OP.
fieldolight

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bump
turtles know: low profiles are best.
I like turtles!
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02/25/2008 05:34 PM
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bumping
Coolchick

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This is very very disturbing. It should most certainly be pinned.. you never know who may know something. She must go through Hell every second of her existence.
I've dreamt so long..
I cannot dream anymore..
Doomamatrix

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Bumping for Johnny. bump

and all the other Johnnies out there as well as Joanns...

Listen, if you want to get just even the tiniest grasp of what went on in our country in terms of missing youths, go to
www.doenetwork.org

They have files for both the cold case missing and cold case John/Jane Does. So many from the 70's and 80's and they just keep coming...
Obamacare: Never has so much been taken away from so many for so few.
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No kidding..

bump
I've dreamt so long..
I cannot dream anymore..
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02/25/2008 09:25 PM
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unbelievable....actully, very believable considering Omaha Boys town. That damned priest has had two weeks in hell and a whole lot longer to go.

bump

and double

bump
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we need to hold those persons accountable for their actions

bumping
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sad, sad, sad.
STILL REELING
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JUST MINDNUMBING OP

I WAS SHIELDED FROM ALL THIS AS I CAME FROM A MIXED MARRIAGE AND MY MOTHER WAS SO FROWNED UPON, WE LEFT OUR PARISH BEFORE ANY OF THE SUMMER PROGRAMS COULD CLAIM US

SHE WAS RIGOROUS ABOUT SUMMER CAMP, HAVING BEEN A PARK DISTRICT TEEN VOLUNTEER. FEEL LIKE WE DODGED BULLETS NOW

CAMP CARIBOU, CORNWALL, ONTARIO IS LISTED BELOW

THIS LIST IS FROM REGAIN, FOR THOSE TRYING TO I.D. LOCALES

LINK HERE TO WHOLE FILE ON MACIEL

[link to www.regainnetwork.org]

ReGAIN's mission is to outreach, unite and support those touched or adversely affected by the Legion of Christ and Regnum Christi Movement. Past and present members and all those who quest for justice and truth, resolution and healing are invited to join in this endeavor. Click here for more information.

LEGION and RC Front Groups Identified

SPECIAL REPORT:
The Many Names of the Legion of Christ and the Regnum Christi

Organizations, apostolates, legal entities, websites that are aliases for the LC and RC

Circle Media

Center For Integral Formation: [link to www.integralformation.org]

ZENIT News Service: [link to www.zenit.org]
Director: Jesus Colina, Assessor: Fr. John Flynn, L.C.

Catholic World Mission: [link to www.catholicworldmission.org]

Solidarity Schools, Inc.

Leadership Training Program
[link to www.leadershiptrainingprogram.com]

ConQuest Clubs and Camps: [link to www.conquest-online.com] and [link to www.conquestclubs.com]
(Challenge club is the counter part for girls)

Which include

Camp Kodiak, Alaska
Jackson Father and Son Camp, Jackson Hole, Wyoming
Camp Eagle’s Cliff, Center Harbor, New Hampshire
Camp Bocamp, Folsom, Louisiana
River Ridge Camp, Milan, Indiana
Rocky Heights Leadership Camp, Blackhawk, Colorado
ConQuest Experience Soccer Academy, Maria Stein, Ohio
Ohio Millennium ConQuest Camp, Columbus, Ohio
Millennium ConQuest Camp, Edgerton, Wisconsin
Camp St. Croix, Dunrovin, Minnesota
Saskatchewan Boys Leadership Camp, Lake Zeden, Saskatchewan, Canada
Camp Caribou (French and English), Cornwall, Ontario, Canada
Wichita Boys Camp, Wichita, Kansas
Nebraska Boys Camp, Fairbury, Nebraska
South Dakota Boys Camp, Elms Spring, South Dakota
Yakima Camp, Easton, Washington
Crossroads ConQuest Father and Son Camp, Ohiopyle, Pennsylvania
Bemidji, Minnesota

Websites under the auspices of the Legion of Christ:

www.vocation.com

www.regnumchristi.com

www.legionofchrist.com

www.legionaryfacts.com

www.yfe.info

www.midwestsoccer.net

www.catholic.net

www.ateneo.org


Other organizations and apostolate names that belong to or are controlled by the Legion of Christ and the Regnum Christi:

National Catholic Register

L’Osservatore Romano, Spanish weekly edition

College Compass, Inc. (Compass) (www.collegecompass.org)

Ignition Magazine

Familia

Theology on Tap (www.totnyc.org)

Kids Net (www.catholickids.net)

Youth for Third Millennium (www.ytm.org)

Catholic Faith and Family Magazine

Evangelizadores de tiempo completo (Full-time Evangelizers)

Catholic World Mission (fundraising for Mexico in US)

CIPS, (Catholic Institute for Psychological Sciences), Washington DC

Center for Integral Formation (CIF) Hamden, CT ( [link to www.integralformation.org)]

NCE (National Consultants in Education), Washington, DC

Women for the Third Millennium

The New Woman (www.newoman.org)

Catholic Youth World Network (ECYD) (www.cywn.net)

ShoreLines Newsletter

Sacerdos Magazine


Legal Entities in dioceses of Hartford, New York, and Detroit that belong to the Legion of Christ

Horizon Institute, Inc
53 Rossoto Drive
Hamden, CT 06514

Horizon Institute, Inc
393 Derby Ave
Orange, CT 06477

Helping Hand Investments, Inc.
393 Derby Ave
Orange, CT 06477

Lux et Vita
393 Derby Ave
Orange, CT 06477

Racebrook, Inc
393 Derby Ave
Orange, CT 06477

Logos, Inc.
475 Oak Ave.
Cheshire, CT 06410

Rossoto, Inc.
53 Rossoto Drive
Hamden, CT 06514

Catholic Kids Network, Inc.
500 Columbus Ave.
Thornwood, NY 10549

Catholic World Mission, Inc.
500 Columbus Ave.
Thornwood, NY 10549

Familia USA, Inc
500 Columbus Ave.
Thornwood, NY 10549

Helping Hands Medical Missions, Inc
500 Columbus Ave.
Thornwood, NY 10549

Legion of Christ College, Inc.
500 Columbus Ave.
Thornwood, NY 10549

Summertime Activities, Inc
500 Columbus Ave.
Thornwood, NY 10549

Youth and Family Encounter, Inc
500 Columbus Ave.
Thornwood, NY 10549

Logos, Inc.
2460 Opdyke Rd
Bloomfield Hills, MI

Opdyke, Inc
2460 Opdyke Rd
Bloomfield Hills, MI


Source: The US Catholic Directory
Anonymous Coward
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02/25/2008 09:58 PM
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Is it odd that someone would continue to send her pictures?

One very messed up individual.
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In reading the Johnny Gosh site, I ran into this

"In 2007, investigators began investigating Michael J. Devlin for possible involvement in Henderson's disappearance and in several other cases, including the 1988 disappearance of Scott Kleeschulte and the 2005 disappearance of Bianca Piper. Shawn Hornbeck, a fifteen-year-old boy who was kidnapped in 2002, and William "Ben" Ownby, a thirteen-year-old boy who disappeared in 2007, were both found alive and well in Devlin's house in January 2007. Ownby had been missing for five days and Hornbeck for over four years. Both boys had been held against their will by Devlin, and have since been reunited with their searching families. It should be emphasized that Devlin has not been charged in any cases besides Ownby and Hornbeck's, and thus far the investigation has not shown any strong links between him and any other children.

Henderson's disappearance remains unsolved.
"

Does anyone else find it unusual that the m.o. used by this Devlin guy is the same used in the Franklin Coverup story. Why did the OBSOLETE media let this just fall by the wayside.

If you haven't read the Franklin Coverup you should, it is the timeframe of Bush Sr and continues to current. Look at this Devlin story again and notice how parallel they are.

The MEDIA is really OBSOLETE.

Fix - "we create, you believe"
CNN - Creating News Nightly
It is time to awaken to your real purpose. It is all up to you.
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bump bump hf bump hf

More and more the truth will flow


they cannot stop it


the truth will hemmorhage out upon them


the blood of millions is on their hands


KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS



sow and reap child eaters


YOUR TIME GROWS CLOSE

CAN YOU HEAR THE ROARING WIND

THE LEVIATHAN WILL DRAG YOU DOWN


WITH A MULTITUDE OF MILLSTONES UPON YOU

You shall be rewarded for your crimes against children


you shall burn on the pyre of perversity

MARK MY WORDS
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predators your sheepskin will not save you


monkey with DNA even-you will not succeed in hiding-you are all known

"He said inquiries were focusing on the cellar after sniffer dogs went mad in the area around it.

"It is a very slow methodical process," he said. "We have had some positive indications from the dogs but there could be a number of explanations."

Last night ten more abuse victims came forward, bringing the total number claiming to have suffered assault, indecent assault and rape at the home to 150.

The NSPCC has received 63 calls from adults reporting allegations of childhood physical, sexual and emotional abuse.

Those who grew up at the care home have spoke out about the regime of fear and ritual punishments by staff.

Historical documents show that children were regularly locked in cells for 24 hours in solitary confinement and flogged until they bled. On one occasion a boy had his finger cut off during a lashing with a sharp cane.

Kenny Le Quesne, 57, was a resident at the home for six weeks during the mid 1960s when he was a young teenager."

[link to www.thisislondon.co.uk]
Golden Gates (OP)
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More info on Fr. Maciel:

good ABC News link here regarding Vatican's cover-up of the priest who's order sponsored the camp where Johnny was abused:

[link to abcnews.go.com]


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