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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58109 1/6/2009 5:22 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | I remember almost a decade ago I was thinking MA-Bus meant Bush from Massachusetts. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 583940 1/6/2009 6:56 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | [youtube]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" [link to www.youtube.com] name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" [link to www.youtube.com] type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
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This is a mini-edit I made from the movie The Man Who Saw Tommorrow, which I have on video & now also DVD.
Considering this movie was made in 1980.. it's quite interesting how it points to todays news!
Hey.. feel free to look at my other vide too..! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 583940 1/6/2009 6:58 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
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This is a mini-edit I made from the movie The Man Who Saw Tommorrow, which I have on video & now also DVD.
Considering this movie was made in 1980.. it's quite interesting how it points to todays news!
Hey.. feel free to look at my other vide too..! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 583940
Well.. the link worked .. but i dunno how to embed the video itself.. forgot now. Anyone feel free to embed it for me.. |
| master shake User ID: 587839 1/7/2009 6:31 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | go to youtube and look up a man named Ian Xel Lungold, there's an 18 part lecture that he gives on the meaning of the mayan calendar, it's fascinating, it was filmed in 04 and the guy has since died, yet he stands there and tells you everything that's happening now is about to happen with the financial system's decline, It's amazing, we live in very interesting times! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 588908 1/8/2009 4:19 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
What if blue turban can simply be a metaphor for Democrat? which is blue... dun dun duuuuun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 545089
How about it being "lue Ban-tur"(banter) rather than blue tur-ban.
Obama giving us his banter or his croc of shit.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 590976 1/11/2009 5:37 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | The number of the beast is 616, not the popular 666 number.
[link to www.google.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 591890 1/13/2009 12:36 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | He does not have to be Vice President but some one in a position that will impact policy and it does seem like he is Obama's Mid East policy Advisor. I thought I was the only one connecting Ray Mabus to Nostradamus. |
| lunatec2 User ID: 600175 1/24/2009 4:29 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | Mabus backwards is Subam or Sadam. It is commonly believed that Mabus was Saddam Hussein. If you like at the fruits of the man's labor, I think it's pretty clear. Look at how Saddam lived his life and all the horrible atrocities he committed. |
| waist of space User ID: 613860 2/12/2009 10:54 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | who cares |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 615923 2/16/2009 1:38 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
Interesting indeed. If Ray Mabus is the AntiChrist then where is the 666? Heres what I found. He is the 60th Governer, he will be 60 years of age this October(suprise?), where is the other 6?
what do you get if....you pot obama and bost together?look...obamabush...look at the word in side....Mabus.... send the message Quoting: jimmy 412981
If you add the day and year he was born 11,1948= 24 2+4 = 6 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 615923 2/16/2009 1:40 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 590976
the Bible is quite clear..... 6, fourscore, 6 20 years to a score so therefore, 666 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 615934 2/16/2009 2:07 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | The idea of an anti Christ is so silly. I'm sure some who read what I just said will say, "He's so lost." |
| sf User ID: 621751 2/23/2009 11:21 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | according to nostradmaus the antichrists ASSASSINATION will trigger ww3 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 528876 2/23/2009 11:31 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
One other thing I did notice is that he was born on the same year as Israel became a nation 1948, which is not an accident either. The other 6 may become obvious soon. Quoting: Follower of Jesus nli 195278
The Scriptures do not leave things there. That would not be accurate enough for God. We are told, by Jesus himself, in what YEAR the birth of this new body would take place.
The disciples asked Christ, the Being within the human body called Jesus, when he (Christ) would come again and what would be the sign?
Christ replied that when they saw the Fig Tree (Matt. 21:19-21) put forth new shoots, and begin to grow again, they would know that "Summer" (the new age - Sabbath Millennium) was near (Matt. 24:32), after 6 millennia - (6,000 years) of Satan's mis-rule, known as "Winter".
How does this tell us what YEAR the birth would take place?
The Fig Tree that was cursed and withered before the disciples eyes because it brought forth no fruit, unto God, was the Jews. The "Fig Tree" is the symbol of the Jews in Scripture. Jesus cursed the Fig Tree and it withered away, symbolizing what was going to happen to the Jews for rejecting their rightful King.
The Jews were kicked out of Palestine, had no homeland and were persecuted for 2000 years as God's punishment for rejecting, persecuting and murdering their Rightful King and rejecting the New Covenant referred to in Ezekiel 34, culminating in the Holocaust under Adolf Hitler (the Anti-Christ - 666 - who was blessed by the Pope and called "the envoy of God").
The Fig Tree then began to awaken from its withered state and began to put forth new shoots in Palestine on 22/4/1948 when the Jewish State in Israel was set up and David Ben-Gurion announced in the Museum Hall in Tel-Aviv to the world, under the umbrella of the United Nations, that the Jews had established a Jewish State in the land of Israel on 14th May 1948. From that year the desolate, cursed land began, through irrigation, to flourish and put forth new shoots, with immigration of Jews from all over the world, the "Fig Tree" revived and put forth new shoots, but will never bear fruit (for God - Matthew 21:19).
So now we have the COUNTRY of birth, the CITY of birth; the YEAR and EXACT DATE of the birth of the new body to be used by the Christ - 22/4/1948.
Jesus told us also that he would not for a generation (40 years according to the Holy Scriptures), claim his Rightful Throne - the Throne of David upon whom would be sitting a descendant of king David, as promised to David by God, testified to in the Bible in 2 Samuel 7:16 and 1 kings 2:4 and 9:5 and again in Jeremiah 33:17 "For thus saith the "I AM"; David shall never want a man (descendant) to sit upon the throne of the House of Israel." (until)
The word Brit-ish is Hebrew and means "the man or People of The Covenant" in other words "the True People Israel" and the "House of Israel".
Elizabeth the Second is a direct descendant of David as have been all of the British- Israel monarchs since David himself, backwards in time through all of the English kings, preceded by the Scottish kings, preceded by the Irish kings, preceded by king Zedekiah of Jerusalem and all the kings back to David himself. They have all been crowned sitting upon the Throne of David, which is the "Stone of Destiny" - Jacob's Pillar-Stone now wrongly called the "Stone of Scone", except for Elizabeth the Second because she became the monarch AFTER 1948, when Christ had already returned. God would not allow her or anyone except Christ himself; to be crowned upon that Stone; whilst His oldest Son, Prince (St.) Michael, The Rightful King, Christ is upon the Earth, incarnated inside a new human English body.
Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael [the Archangel] (Eno. 20:5; 36:1; 40:8; 58:1; 59:9; 57:1-2; 70:4; Rev.12:1; Sura 2:98) stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [of Life] (Rev. 13:8; 17:8; 20:15; 21:27; Sura 83:20).
Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation (oppression), such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time . . . .
Daniel 10:21 But I will show thee that which is noted in the Scripture of Truth: and [there is] NONE that holdeth with me in these things, EXCEPT Michael your prince (Eno. 67:1; Rev. 5:3; 5; 9 & 12:7).
To prevent anyone, other than Christ, from being crowned upon the Stone of Destiny, God got four Scottish Nationalists to remove the Stone from Westminster Abbey and take it back to Scotland, on 25th of December (Christ-mas Day - clue) in 1950.
On April the 11th in 1951 the Scottish Nationalists left a stone at Arbroath Abbey, to be given to England. When George the Sixth died and Elizabeth was crowned in June of 1953, she was crowned upon that stone, but it was not the real Stone.
The original stone has a crack in it and it appears that whilst making a forgery, that also would have to have a crack in it in order to look genuine, the stone broke in two. During repair a copy of the "Scottish Declaration of Independence" was sandwiched in between.
Years later it was reported in the press that, upon his death-bed, one of the Scottish Nationalists who had removed the Stone from Westminster Abbey, confessed to having taken the Stone and that they had sent Elizabeth a fake stone. People on their death-bed have no reason to lie and every reason to tell the Truth. When it is compared against photographs; it is definitely not the real Stone.
Christ said not for a generation (40 years) would he claim his Rightful Throne, the British-Israel Throne of David.
On 13/June/1988, 40 years from the Fig Tree putting forth its new shoots in 1948, Christ served a High Court Writ upon the British Parliament, at court in the City of Sheffield, where his new body had been born in 1948, as prophesied, demanding that he be acknowledged by Parliament as the Rightful British-Israel King.
Just as happened 2000 years before, when he was rejected by the "House of Judah", Christ was again rejected but this time by the other branch of Jacob-Israel's children - the "House of Israel".
This then condemned the "House of Israel"; who had by their rejection of Christ declared themselves to be Christ's enemies, like the "House of Judah"; to be punished by God and turned into Christ's footstool. That punishment involves defeat and slaughter of both "Houses" at Armageddon and their return to slavery again (Deut. 28:68) as they were in Egypt and later in Assyria and Babylon (soon) because they rejected The Covenant and God's Laws and Christ's Sovereignty.
Christ said that THIS generation who were born in 1948 would see all things come to pass and the setting up of his "Kingdom without End", which would fill the whole earth.
[link to www.jahtruth.net] |
| Nephthys User ID: 483343 2/23/2009 11:36 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
Ray Mabus was an ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the Clinton years. I think it is very possible that Ray Mabus could be Obama's running mate and Vice President. Suddenly Obama is killed and Mabus stands up to be President and Antichrist as Nostradamus predicted.
BTW: I don't take much heed to Nostradamus due to the way he received his predictions, but this is very interesting.
Mabus could be the 3rd Antichrist as Nostradamus spoke of...very interesting Quoting: Follower of Jesus
Where was he born? |
| Nephthys User ID: 483343 2/23/2009 11:40 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
Ray Mabus was an ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the Clinton years. I think it is very possible that Ray Mabus could be Obama's running mate and Vice President. Suddenly Obama is killed and Mabus stands up to be President and Antichrist as Nostradamus predicted.
BTW: I don't take much heed to Nostradamus due to the way he received his predictions, but this is very interesting.
Mabus could be the 3rd Antichrist as Nostradamus spoke of...very interesting Quoting: Follower of Jesus
Also where did he recieve his education.
If Egypt or somewhere in the Middle East then I would pin him as a possibility. |
| pssststarwars User ID: 528876 2/23/2009 11:43 PM
 | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
One other thing I did notice is that he was born on the same year as Israel became a nation 1948, which is not an accident either. The other 6 may become obvious soon.
The Scriptures do not leave things there. That would not be accurate enough for God. We are told, by Jesus himself, in what YEAR the birth of this new body would take place.
The disciples asked Christ, the Being within the human body called Jesus, when he (Christ) would come again and what would be the sign?
Christ replied that when they saw the Fig Tree (Matt. 21:19-21) put forth new shoots, and begin to grow again, they would know that "Summer" (the new age - Sabbath Millennium) was near (Matt. 24:32), after 6 millennia - (6,000 years) of Satan's mis-rule, known as "Winter".
How does this tell us what YEAR the birth would take place?
The Fig Tree that was cursed and withered before the disciples eyes because it brought forth no fruit, unto God, was the Jews. The "Fig Tree" is the symbol of the Jews in Scripture. Jesus cursed the Fig Tree and it withered away, symbolizing what was going to happen to the Jews for rejecting their rightful King.
The Jews were kicked out of Palestine, had no homeland and were persecuted for 2000 years as God's punishment for rejecting, persecuting and murdering their Rightful King and rejecting the New Covenant referred to in Ezekiel 34, culminating in the Holocaust under Adolf Hitler (the Anti-Christ - 666 - who was blessed by the Pope and called "the envoy of God").
The Fig Tree then began to awaken from its withered state and began to put forth new shoots in Palestine on 22/4/1948 when the Jewish State in Israel was set up and David Ben-Gurion announced in the Museum Hall in Tel-Aviv to the world, under the umbrella of the United Nations, that the Jews had established a Jewish State in the land of Israel on 14th May 1948. From that year the desolate, cursed land began, through irrigation, to flourish and put forth new shoots, with immigration of Jews from all over the world, the "Fig Tree" revived and put forth new shoots, but will never bear fruit (for God - Matthew 21:19).
So now we have the COUNTRY of birth, the CITY of birth; the YEAR and EXACT DATE of the birth of the new body to be used by the Christ - 22/4/1948.
Jesus told us also that he would not for a generation (40 years according to the Holy Scriptures), claim his Rightful Throne - the Throne of David upon whom would be sitting a descendant of king David, as promised to David by God, testified to in the Bible in 2 Samuel 7:16 and 1 kings 2:4 and 9:5 and again in Jeremiah 33:17 "For thus saith the "I AM"; David shall never want a man (descendant) to sit upon the throne of the House of Israel." (until)
The word Brit-ish is Hebrew and means "the man or People of The Covenant" in other words "the True People Israel" and the "House of Israel".
Elizabeth the Second is a direct descendant of David as have been all of the British- Israel monarchs since David himself, backwards in time through all of the English kings, preceded by the Scottish kings, preceded by the Irish kings, preceded by king Zedekiah of Jerusalem and all the kings back to David himself. They have all been crowned sitting upon the Throne of David, which is the "Stone of Destiny" - Jacob's Pillar-Stone now wrongly called the "Stone of Scone", except for Elizabeth the Second because she became the monarch AFTER 1948, when Christ had already returned. God would not allow her or anyone except Christ himself; to be crowned upon that Stone; whilst His oldest Son, Prince (St.) Michael, The Rightful King, Christ is upon the Earth, incarnated inside a new human English body.
Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael [the Archangel] (Eno. 20:5; 36:1; 40:8; 58:1; 59:9; 57:1-2; 70:4; Rev.12:1; Sura 2:98) stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [of Life] (Rev. 13:8; 17:8; 20:15; 21:27; Sura 83:20).
Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation (oppression), such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time . . . .
Daniel 10:21 But I will show thee that which is noted in the Scripture of Truth: and [there is] NONE that holdeth with me in these things, EXCEPT Michael your prince (Eno. 67:1; Rev. 5:3; 5; 9 & 12:7).
To prevent anyone, other than Christ, from being crowned upon the Stone of Destiny, God got four Scottish Nationalists to remove the Stone from Westminster Abbey and take it back to Scotland, on 25th of December (Christ-mas Day - clue) in 1950.
On April the 11th in 1951 the Scottish Nationalists left a stone at Arbroath Abbey, to be given to England. When George the Sixth died and Elizabeth was crowned in June of 1953, she was crowned upon that stone, but it was not the real Stone.
The original stone has a crack in it and it appears that whilst making a forgery, that also would have to have a crack in it in order to look genuine, the stone broke in two. During repair a copy of the "Scottish Declaration of Independence" was sandwiched in between.
Years later it was reported in the press that, upon his death-bed, one of the Scottish Nationalists who had removed the Stone from Westminster Abbey, confessed to having taken the Stone and that they had sent Elizabeth a fake stone. People on their death-bed have no reason to lie and every reason to tell the Truth. When it is compared against photographs; it is definitely not the real Stone.
Christ said not for a generation (40 years) would he claim his Rightful Throne, the British-Israel Throne of David.
On 13/June/1988, 40 years from the Fig Tree putting forth its new shoots in 1948, Christ served a High Court Writ upon the British Parliament, at court in the City of Sheffield, where his new body had been born in 1948, as prophesied, demanding that he be acknowledged by Parliament as the Rightful British-Israel King.
Just as happened 2000 years before, when he was rejected by the "House of Judah", Christ was again rejected but this time by the other branch of Jacob-Israel's children - the "House of Israel".
This then condemned the "House of Israel"; who had by their rejection of Christ declared themselves to be Christ's enemies, like the "House of Judah"; to be punished by God and turned into Christ's footstool. That punishment involves defeat and slaughter of both "Houses" at Armageddon and their return to slavery again (Deut. 28:68) as they were in Egypt and later in Assyria and Babylon (soon) because they rejected The Covenant and God's Laws and Christ's Sovereignty.
Christ said that THIS generation who were born in 1948 would see all things come to pass and the setting up of his "Kingdom without End", which would fill the whole earth.
[ link to www.jahtruth.net] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 528876
what I'm showing you is .. oh, I forgot to sign in,
JAH is going to kick ASS real Soon! do some homework on HIS site please... www.jahtruth.net [link to 100777.com]
[link to jahtruth.net]
Let it be Fun and Exciting is in fact our command to let this good and right thing be so.
It is done.
Amen |
| pssststarwars User ID: 528876 2/23/2009 11:51 PM
 | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | The Prophecies of Nostradamus about Inis Fail (Ireland), The Lia Fail (Stone of Destiny)
and The Ark of The Covenant.
Affecting YOU!
by Michel de Nostredame
Edited by JAH (Cesar). Seeking a publisher!
Copyright © 1998 JAH. All rights reserved.
To my son Cesar; he who will come at the end of the
twentieth century; My spiritual son. He will understand
what I have written and use the information wisely.
Michel de Nostredame (1503-1566)
Nostradamus then left a warning in the ONLY quatrain that has a title; so that it would stand out from all of the others and hopefully be taken notice of.
Quatrain 6,100 - 6 (man), 100 (% of men take note)
The "Song" of The Law against Unintelligent Critics.
Let those who read this verse consider it profoundly,
Let the common crowd and the unlearned leave it alone:
ALL of them - idiot Astrologers and Barbarians - KEEP OFF!
Let he who does otherwise (JAH/Cesar) be a priest for the rite.
[link to www.jahtruth.net] [link to 100777.com]
[link to jahtruth.net]
Let it be Fun and Exciting is in fact our command to let this good and right thing be so.
It is done.
Amen |
| Nephthys User ID: 483343 2/24/2009 12:04 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
The Prophecies of Nostradamus about Inis Fail (Ireland), The Lia Fail (Stone of Destiny)
and The Ark of The Covenant.
Affecting YOU!
by Michel de Nostredame
Edited by JAH (Cesar). Seeking a publisher!
Copyright © 1998 JAH. All rights reserved.
To my son Cesar; he who will come at the end of the
twentieth century; My spiritual son. He will understand
what I have written and use the information wisely.
Michel de Nostredame (1503-1566)
Nostradamus then left a warning in the ONLY quatrain that has a title; so that it would stand out from all of the others and hopefully be taken notice of.
Quatrain 6,100 - 6 (man), 100 (% of men take note)
The "Song" of The Law against Unintelligent Critics.
Let those who read this verse consider it profoundly,
Let the common crowd and the unlearned leave it alone:
ALL of them - idiot Astrologers and Barbarians - KEEP OFF!
Let he who does otherwise (JAH/Cesar) be a priest for the rite.
 [ link to www.jahtruth.net] Quoting: pssststarwars
I have the complete works of his and there is no mention of the above quatrain! |
| JR User ID: 628424 3/5/2009 2:14 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | Think of it as this is problems arise,, and this fellow is elavated to head of the UN,, the wear blue hats.... |
| JR User ID: 628424 3/5/2009 2:18 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | Think of it as this,,, if problems arise ,,, this fellow could be elavated to head of the UN... and they wear blue berrett's...who is this guy, hitler came from a dog catcher, napoleon came from Corsica... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 628424 3/5/2009 2:20 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | I apologize for not using spell check.. |
| JR User ID: 628424 3/5/2009 2:21 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | And I am not a coward, just stupid!!! O K!!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 628424 3/5/2009 2:26 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | And you can quote me on all of it, at raymondjerrys@yahoo.ca, except for that JEW bitch you grew.... Hilary. |
| JR User ID: 628424 3/5/2009 2:27 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | DOH!! Sorry about that!!! |
| JR User ID: 628424 3/5/2009 2:30 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | This website exists for entertainment purposes only |
| Whippoorwill User ID: 617291 3/5/2009 2:36 AM
 | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote |
Interesting indeed. If Ray Mabus is the AntiChrist then where is the 666? Heres what I found. He is the 60th Governer, he will be 60 years of age this October(suprise?), where is the other 6?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376301
something else of his, that I won't mention might be 6 inches.
Any one up to measuring? |
| Goldfish User ID: 626209 3/5/2009 2:46 AM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | I still think that Mabus = anagram of Usamb, and that Usamb is very close to Usama, a better translation of "Osama Bin Laden"'s name. Intel even used to called Osama UBL for short.
In which case Usama died, Obama takes over and wrecks the world as frontman for Captain 666 and the amazing technicolour revelation suicide pill. DOH! |
| Norseman User ID: 605968 3/5/2009 2:59 AM
 | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | God |
| j0hnnyrock User ID: 633511 3/12/2009 2:11 PM | | Re: Obama's advisor is Ray Mabus...Nostradamus connection??? | Quote | anyone simply write mabus on paper then use a mirrorsudam is the result he died people changed his holy war lasted 20 + years if so time is failing us soon |
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