A "God" simply does not make sense.

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: I don't want to debate you Trinity I feel like I would be telling the king he has no clothes ! Jesus is very real its just that scriptures are the safest way to explain things ! Miracles are real ! Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Amen

Chill out Trinity! All you haft to do is scribble your beliefs in their books then get their preachers or what ever to tell them its the truth. Then they will see things your way. Its that easy. On a serious note I feel almost the same as you do. My huge family are all catholics and would probably burn me at the stake if they thought I didn't believe in the good book. I learned along time ago that you cant argue with somebody whose only proof of a god is a man made book and faith.

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: I believe the bible as the Holy Word of God ! Praise The Lamb :: Amen

Meatless Fridays

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John Smith was the only Protestant to move into a large Catholic neighborhood. On the first Friday of Lent, John was outside grilling a big juicy steak on his grill.

Meanwhile, all of his neighbors were eating cold tuna fish for supper. This went on each Friday of Lent. On the last Friday of Lent, the neighborhood men got together and decided that something had to be done about John. He was tempting them to eat meat each Friday of Lent, and they couldn't take it anymore.

They decided to try and convert John to Catholicism.

They went over and talked to him. John decided to join all of his neighbors and become a Catholic, which made them all very happy.They took him to church, and the priest sprinkled some water over him, and said, "You were born a Baptist, you were raised a Baptist, and now you are a Catholic."

The men were so relieved, now their biggest Lenten temptation was resolved.

The next year's Lenten season rolled around. The first Friday of Lent came, and, just at supper time, when the neighborhood was settling down to their cold tuna fish dinner, the smell of steak cooking on a grill came wafting into their homes. The neighborhood men could not believe their noses! WHAT WAS GOING ON?

They called each other up and decided to meet over in John's yard to see if he had forgotten it was the first Friday of Lent. The group arrived just in time to see John standing over his grill with a small pitcher of water. He was sprinkling some water over his steak on the grill, saying, "You were born a cow, you were raised a cow, and now you are a fish."

Could this ding dong here be the start of Armageddon?

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: I listen to the word a lot and when I first started it was an educational thing , but it touched my soul in a way that went beyond the norm ! My spirit was awakened , renewed , and uforick ! Yes he is real to me !1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; ! Praise the Lamb:: Amen

Go Trin!

Hi,

Totally agree except that "THE SENTIENT UNIVERSE/God" is strictly Hands On. A Sentient Universe is the only thing that can meet the qualifications of a All Powerful, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Is ALL and In ALL. It sees, feels, and knows all that we do.

As to answering prayers, Yes, IT does but according to ITs laws and rules.
Sometimes people pray for a loved one to get well, but the Universe says that it is time for that person to graduate from this Kindergarten so that prayer is denied.

as for Jesus... that is another story.. which can be argued until we are blue in the face, and nobody will be convinced either way. As James says, "I will show you my faith by my works." If you are light and love, your works will show it. If you are evil, you will display hatred and foment war just like some of our leaders who claim to be religionists of one group or another.

Just as we remove cancers in our bodies, the Sentient Universe will dispose of those who are not in tune with it.

Peace, love, and enlightenment.

If we do not live in peace together, we die in war together!

God has a great sense of humor. And that's about it.

Wing-ed you keep quoting verses that are often wise and meaningful in the conversation. But ....

I could go to a 'Bible Store' and buy several books, read the same passage in each, and find discrepancies. In a book that is supposed to be "Inspired by God"
How do you account for this?

I am being serious. TIA

Not knocking Winged, but trying to discuss phenomenology with a full blown Christian is practically impossible. Each to their own.

Hi,

Many of the RELIGIONISTS have a narrow vision. In most cases it will remain that way in this Kindergarten. When they reach 1st grade/heaven they will probably be attracted to like minded individuals and when looking around will say, "See, we were right. There is nobody here but us Baptists/ Seventh Day Adventists/Jehovah Witnesses/Muslims, etc.

Only when they have matured enough to climb out of the valley of ignorance and look over the hill will they see that on the other side is an equally ignorant group who thinks that they are the only ones who reached 1st grade.

Some who flunk Kindergarten, may have to do it all over again.


Peace, love, and enlightenment.

If we do not live in peace together, we die in war together!

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mrsnacks says:

Opinions are like assholes- everyone has one. I would think it would be pointless to debate or even discuss this simply because as I read through all the comments- none seems to be open minded here.I stand to be corrected if I am wrong. No one seems to look themselves in the mirror and say they may be wrong. Many dismiss the existence of God or Creator because it doesn't make sense to them. Just because something doesn't make sense to you does not mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater. We are talking about God who is infinite. We are finite and have limited understanding if there is a God.

If you have to ask what gives one book credibility over another then it shows me that you haven't even begun to seek or study the issue. So reading some of your comments I can respond very intelligently to your criticisms but why should I ? Your mind is made up and I see no open door to your heart in being open so what is the use. I can't change your mind and I am wise enough to know that one cannot have someone see if they don't want to. Don't confuse me with the facts - my mind is already made up says many. You say it is all bullshit and some of may be but not all. There is some truth in everything. You sound angry. Like you have an ax to grind. But I will make some comments for the sake of those who may be open minded here. To others who may think I am nuts doesn't bother me. You can't please everyone. And neither do I try to.

You say the only way to truth is through your own perception.What makes you think that your perception is right ? What if your perception differs ( which is does) differ from someone else's how do you resolve that ? You are beginning with some assumptions there. But everyone has presuppositions in their worldview. First principles they bring to the table. Foundations of their belief. Let's explore yours.

What makes you think that your perception or mind can give you truth. If there is no creator of the universe (God)
Then the universe came to be ( animals, human beings, plants,etc) by an accident. There would be no mind behind the universe. No purpose or meaning. A design but no designer.The same big bang that spat up human beings also spat up cockroaches and plants and bacteria. So what makes you or anyone more important or should have more rights than a cockroach? Just because you say you should doesn't make it so. I know you value your life or that of your spouse over a cockroach but in an atheistic universe - it doesn't make sense and is not justified even.

I think if this is what you believe than you have a ton of philosophical problems. Another is that you trust your mind to give you truth.Your perceptions. If your mind is a result of an accident then how can you trust it? an atheistic worldview cannot account for anything. Can't account for the laws of science,moral laws, origin of the universe, abstract entities, or even the laws of logic for that matter. How can non life produce life ? Scientists all agree that a one point nothing existed. If nothing existed than tell me where did life come from ?

That violates the law of biogenesis. Life cannot come from non life. How about the 2nd law of thermodynamics? It says that the universe is running down. Entropy. Then if it is running down it must have been wound up to begin with.
If there was a beginning there has to be a beginner. A first cause.

How about the laws of logic? We all know they exist but how? The universe is a physical happening so how do you account for the laws of logic which are not physical ? Can you see the law of logics? You use the laws of logic of course. How does a physical big bang produce non physical concepts such as love or truth ? They exist we all agree. At least a theistic worldview can account for these things.

How do you account for the laws of morality. You can't have a moral law unless you have a moral law giver. Why is murder wrong? What if I say for the sake of argument that murder is okay. How can you say I am wrong ? Just because it is against the law doesn't mean it is wrong. It was wrong, in fact laws in this country at one time, for blacks to vote or rights equal to whites in this country so was that wrong ? If you say yes then why ? There were laws saying blacks were sub human. At least a person who believes in a creator or God can answer that question philosophically. YOu may not like the answer but at least he can make sense. God created all mankind in His image and God and is given dignity and purpose, one right to life and commands us not to murder.Have you read the constitution ? It mentioned a creator in there. The founding fathers at least knew and believed in a creator.Human rights make sense in a theistic universe but not in an atheistic universe. Thou shall not murder. But in an atheistic universe why is murder wrong? Why do you have more rights than the cockroach? Why are you allowed to live but bacteria or viruses no ? If Congress were to pass a law tomorrow stating that rape is right would the law be right or wrong and why ?

You say there is no savior? That is your opinion but I want to ask how do you know what you know ?How do you know there is no Savior ? Judaism and Christianity say that God is a Savior to mankind. You say they are wrong so why are you right and on what basis and those beliefs systems are wrong?

You say there is no one way to God but many ways. How do you know that to be true? Every road doesn't lead to NY city. To make statements like you do make no sense. I don't mean that as a putdown but it is true. I will back it up.

The God of Christianity is different than the god of Mormonism or Jehovah Witnesses or Islam. So we are not talking about the same God. The God of Islam is impersonal. THe God of Christianity and Judaism is personal. The god of Mormonism was a man once then became a god. The God of Christianity was never a man but always God for He is eternal and infinite. So you see we are talking apples and oranges here. All roads don't lead to the same God.

You say you can't stand people who cling to one religion or another. I can't stand a lot of things but it doesn't mean those things are true. Can't stand people who hate but it doesn't mean people who hate don't exist. You say they are blind and I may agree but is it possible you are ? Is it possible you are deceived? One who is deceived does not know he/she is deceived.

Jesus said " I am the Way and Truth and Life and no one comes to the Father but through Him."

He said that and was killed for speaking the truth. so either He was wrong or right about Himself. At least all religions acknowledge Jesus being a good moral teacher at worst. This doesn't makes sense if He was teaching things that weren't true and false. Either He was lying,crazy or telling the truth of who He was - The Messiah. The Son of God not God the Son. He is the only way.I am quoting Him. So if one has a problem with that blame Him. So one could take it or leave it. But if you don't believe it don't even come up with the nonsense that HE was or is a Good teacher or moral person. A good teacher doesn't teach error. So if He ws wrong about that and who He was or is - then He is a horrible person would you say ?

So there you have my 2 cents. I hope what I have said is a help to those thinking through these issues. I would say there is a God. He is there. There are lot of confusion in the world. A lot of false beliefs and misunderstandings about God. But all I can say is go and seek Him yourself if you want to. And if you seek Him you will find Him.


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Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture Quote

"LA MISIÓN"

VOY A HABLAROS SOBRE MÍ, EN VERDAD. NO CREÁIS QUE EN ESTAS POCAS LÍNEAS ENCONTRARÉIS RESPUESTAS A MUCHAS DE VUESTRAS INTERROGANTES, PUES HAY UN MOMENTO Y LUGAR PARA CADA COSA.
SIN EMBARGO, PUEDE QUE LO QUE OS VOY A NARRAR CONTRIBUYA A
AYUDAR A ALGUNOS DE VOSOTROS E INCLUSO SIRVA PARA COMPRENDERME UN POCO MEJOR.

ANTES DE EMPEZAR DEBO REITERAR QUE NO ME MANIFIESTO PARA QUE TODOS CREÁIS EN MI. LO HAGO POR DIVERSAS RAZONES, ENTRE ELLAS POR QUE ALGUNOS DE VOSOTROS
PODÉIS ENTENDER ALGUNOS SIGNOS Y SABÉIS QUE "YO SOY". TAMBIÉN POR QUE OTROS INTERNAMENTE LO SABEN, AUNQUE NO PUEDAN CONOCER LAS SEÑALES. OTROS POR QUE NECESITAN DE "LA PALABRA" Y MI TESTIMONIO, Y OTROS POR QUE A TRAVÉS DE LA DUDA PUEDEN LANZARSE AL RÍO...
ALGUNOS NO CREERÁN Y ESTÁN EN SU DERECHO, LO CUAL ES TAN RESPETABLE COMO CREER EN MI PRESENCIA.

CADA UNO DE NOSOTROS, EN CUALQUIER PLANO O MORADA DEL UNIVERSO, TIENE SU PROPIA MISIÓN, LA CUAL ES ADECUADA
PARA SÍ MISMO. LLEGAR A CUMPLIR ESA MISIÓN REQUIERE EMPRENDER UN CAMINO Y LOGRAR ALCANZAR LA META.

LA FORMA PIRAMIDAL PUEDE SERVIR PARA COMPRENDER LA EVOLUCIÓN DE LOS SERES EN EL UNIVERSO.
SI NOS FIJAMOS, LA PIRÁMIDE TIENE UNA AMPLIA BASE Y UN VÉRTICE. IMAGINEMOS AHORA QUE DICHA BASE TIENE UNA GRAN AMPLITUD, Y QUE LAS LÍNEAS QUE CONVERGERÁN EN EL VÉRTICE O VÓRTICE NO LLEGAN A TOCARSE, PUES NO HAY UN LÍMITE PARA ELLO.

LA PIRÁMIDE ASÍ IMAGINADA TENDRÁ, CLARO ESTÁ, UNA GRAN BASE, UNA ILIMITADA ALTURA Y UN VÉRTICE INALCANZABLE...
YA DIBUJADA MENTALMENTE NUESTRA PIRÁMIDE, PONGAMOS A TODOS LOS SERES DEL UNIVERSO, CUALQUIERA SEA EL PLANO O MORADA EN QUE SE ENCUENTREN, DENTRO DE LA PIRÁMIDE...
UN INFINITO NÚMERO DE SERES ESTÁN YA DENTRO DE LA MISMA Y, TOMANDO EN CONSIDERACIÓN EL "ORDEN DIVINO" TODOS SE UBICAN A DIFERENTES ALTURAS DENTRO DE LA PIRÁMIDE.

TODOS LOS ALLÍ PRESENTES SON "HIJOS DE DIOS" O DIOSES. (ANTES DE QUE ALGUIEN SE RASGUE LAS VESTIDURAS -NO SERÉ YO EN ESTA OPORTUNIDAD- PUEDEN LEER, EN EL EVANGELIO DE JUAN, COMO JESÚS "EL CRISTO", PRONUNCIÓ... "VOSOTROS SOIS DIOSES").

EN LA BASE DE LA PIRÁMIDE ENCONTRAREMOS EL GRUPO MAYOR DE DIOSES. SU ESENCIA ES IGUAL QUE LA DEL "HIJO DEL HOMBRE", LO QUE OCURRE ES QUE AÚN ESTÁN LEJOS DE SER "UNO CON EL PADRE", PERO TODOS TENEMOS LA MISMA ESENCIA.
ALGO MÁS ARRIBA TENEMOS UN CONTINGENTE MUY NUMEROSO DE DIOSES, AUNQUE EN MENOR NÚMERO QUE LOS QUE SE ENCUENTRAN EN LA BASE. LOS DIOSES MENCIONADOS YA HAN EVOLUCIONADO ALGO MÁS Y ESTÁN MÁS CERCA DE EL PADRE.
ASÍ SEGUIREMOS SUBIENDO HASTA LAS ESTANCIAS SUPERIORES, DONDE ENCONTRAREMOS A DIOSES MUY EVOLUCIONADOS QUE HAN ENCARNADO MUCHAS DE LAS VIRTUDES DEL PADRE Y ELIMINADO GRAN
PARTE DE SUS EGOS. SIN EMBARGO, AÚN PARA ELLOS, EL VÉRTICE NO ESTÁ A SU ALCANCE, EN REALIDAD PARA NADIE, PUES LA EVOLUCIÓN ESPIRITUAL NO TIENE LÍMITE...

PUES BIEN, YA VISTA LA PIRÁMIDE POR DENTRO, OBSERVAREMOS COMO LOS INDIVIDUOS QUE ESTÁN EN EL SEGUNDO NIVEL INTENTAN AYUDAR A ASCENDER A LOS DE LA BASE TENDIÉNDOLES LA MANO. A SU VEZ, LOS DEL TERCER NIVEL, HACEN LO PROPÌO CON LOS DEL SEGUNDO, Y ASÍ INFINITAMENTE...
A MEDIDA QUE MÁS SE ASCIENDE EN LA PIRÁMIDE, MAYOR ES LA "RESPONSABILIDAD" CON NUESTRO PROPIO PADRE, SI BIEN SE TIENE EL ALBEDRÍO, IGUAL QUE CUALQUIER SER, DE DECIDIR SI COOPERAMOS CON OTROS O NO.
PUES ESBOZADA LA ESCENOGRAFÍA, PASEMOS AHORA A RELATAR ALGUNA PEQUEÑA COSA SOBRE MI.


SIENDO UN ADULTO LEÍ "ILUSIONES" UN LIBRO CUYA LECTURA ME FUE MUY GRATA Y QUE RESPONDIÓ, "CAUSALMENTE", LA PREGUNTA QUE PARA ENTONCES ME ATORMENTABA, Y QUE NO ERA OTRA QUE:
¿ESTOY OBLIGADO A CUMPLIR MI MISIÓN?...

RECUERDO QUE MI CONCLUSIÓN DESPUÉS DE LEER EL LIBRO FUÉ..."ES MI DECISIÓN".
ESTA AFIRMACIÓN ME RECONFORTÓ, PUES
ME HIZO SENTIR LIBRE PARA DECIDIR SI DEDICARME A SOBREVIVIR EN ESTE PLANETA, O A "VIVIR".
PASADO UN TIEMPO PREGUNTÉ, CON OTRAS PALABRAS PERO IGUAL SENTIDO, SI PODÍA "APARTAR DE MÍ ESE CÁLIZ..." UNO DE MIS "HERMANOS MAYORES Y GUÍA" ME RESPONDIÓ DE ESTA FORMA...
"NO TENTARÁS AL PADRE". ESA RESPUESTA, TAN BREVE Y CONCISA, ACLARÓ TODO LO CONCERNIENTE A MUCHOS ASPECTOS.

CLÁRO QUE PUEDO ABANDONAR MI MISIÓN, SIN EMBARGO, ESTARÍA TRAICIONANDO A MUCHOS QUE ESPERAN LES TIENDA UNA MANO PARA ASCENDER...Y LO QUE TAMBIÉN ES GRAVE (AUNQUE NO TANTO) TRAICIONARÍA MI PROPIA ESENCIA, AL PARADIGMA O MODELO QUE ME HACE EVOLUCIONAR, MI PROPIO PADRE. POR ELLO, CONTINUÉ CON MI MISIÓN Y CONTINÚO EN ELLA, A PESAR DE CUALQUIER OBSTÁCULO Y DE NO SER ACEPTADO POR MUCHOS. SI MI MANO NO PUEDE AYUDARLOS, QUIZÁ LO HAGA LA MANO DE ALGUNO DE LOS QUE SÍ APRIETAN LA MÍA. "LOS CAMINOS DEL SEÑOR SON INEXCRUTABLES"...

ALGUNOS, DESPUÉS DE LEER ESTO PENSARÉIS QUE HA SIDO FÁCIL PARA MÍ, OTROS POR EL CONTRARIO PENSARÉIS LO DÍFÍCIL QUE ME HA SIDO. PUES, EN VERDAD OS DIGO QUE LOS ÚLTIMOS SOIS LOS QUE HABÉIS ACERTADO. ES DIFÍCIL IMAGINAR LO DOLOROSO QUE INTERNAMENTE ME HA SIDO AVANZAR Y "COGER MI CRUZ", PERO LA LLEVO COMO MUCHOS, NO SOY EL ÚNICO AFORTUNADAMENTE, Y ÉSTA ME FORTALECE Y ME INDICA QUE LA PEQUEÑA LUZ DE MI LÁMPARA PUEDE ILUMINARME A MÍ Y A OTROS EN ESTA ESPESA NIEBLA. El símil literario se lo debo a mi esposa.

GRACIAS

I find ridiculous people who believe what is written in bible...

there is no proof jesus said that, and the bible is not very reliable source...

bible was written and re-written hundred times by fear-mongering, power-hungry priests who only care(d) about their fat bellies...

''The Mission''

I will tell you about me, truly. Don't think that in these few lines you will find answers to many of your questionings, for there is a moment and a place for every thing.
However, it may be that what I am going to talk about will contribute to help some of us and even serve to understand me a little bit better.

Before beginning I must repeat that I do not manifest myself for all of you to believe in me. I do it for various reasons, among them because some of you can understand some signs and know that ''I am''. Also because others know it internally, even though they cannot know the signals. Others because they need of ''the word'' and my tesimony, and others because through doubt they can cast themselves into the river...
Some will not believe and they are entitled to that, that is as respectable as believing in my presence.

Each one of us, in any plane or dwelling in the universe, has his own mission, which is adequate for him- or herself. Getting to accomplishment of that mission requires starting a road and getting to achievement of the goal.

The pyramidal shape may serve to understand the evolution of beings in the universe.
If we look closely, the pyramid has an extensive base and a vortex. Let us now imagine that said base has a very great width, and that the lines that converge in the vortex don't touch in the end, for there is no limit for it.

The pyramid thus imagined will have, it is clear, a large base, an unlimited height and an unreachable vortex...
Now that our pyramid is mentally drawn, let us place all the beings of the universe, whatever the plane or dwelling in which they are, inside the pyramid...
An infinite number of beings are already inside the pyramid and, taking into consideration the ''divine order'' all are located ata different heights within the pyramid.

All those present there are ''sons of God'' or gods. (Before someone rends his or her garments-it will not be me this time around-you can read, in the Gospel of John, how Jesus ''the Christ'', said...''you are gods'').

In the base of the pyramid we will find the larger group of gods. Their essence is the same as that of the ''son of man'', what happens is that they are yet far from being ''one with the father'', but all of us have the same essence.

A little farther up we have a very numerous contingent of gods, although they are less than those that are on the base. These gods have already evolved some more and are closer to the father. Thus we will keep on climbing up to the superior spaces, where we will find very evolved gods that have incarnated (integrated) many of the virtues of the father and eliminated great part of their egos. However, even for them, the vortex is not within their reach, it is really not within anyone's, for spiritual evolution has no limit...

Now then, having seen the pyramid's inside, we will see how the individuals who are on the second level attempt to help those on the base ascend by holding out their hand to them. Also, those of the third level, do the same with those of the second, and so on infinitely...

The higher one goes up on the pyramid, the greater is the ''responsibility'' with our own father, though each one also has choice, the same as any being, of deciding whether we cooperate with others or no.

Well with the scenery sketched out, let us follow on to tell some little thing about me.

As an adult I read ''Illusions'' (probably 'The Book of Illusions' by Paul Auster. -ED), a book whose reading was very pleasant to me and which answered, ''coincidentally'', the question that tormented me around that time, and which was none other than:
Am I forced (under obligation. -ED) to achieve my mission?...

I remember that my conclusion after reading the book was...''it is my choice''.
This statement conforted me, for it made me feel free to decide whether to dedicate myself to mere survival on this planet, or to ''life''.

After a while I asked, with other words but the same gist, if I could ''take this cup from me...'' One of my ''older brothers and guide'' (sic) answered in this way...
''You will not tempt the father''. This answer, so short and concise, cleared up everything relevant to many aspects.

Of course I can asbandon my mission, however, I would be betraying many who expect I should give them a hand to ascend...and what is also serious (though not so much) I would be betraying my own essence, the paradigm or model that makes me evolve, my own father. Therefore, I continued with my mission and continue on it, despite any obstacle and of not being accepted by many. If my hand cannot help them, perhaps the hand of one of those who indeed grip mine shall. ''The ways of the Lord are unknowable''...

Some, after reading this you will think that it has been easy for me, some of you on the other hand will think on how hard it has been. Well, in truth I tell you that you latter ones are those who have hit the mark. It is difficult to imagine how internally painful it has been on me to advance and ''take up my cross'', but I carry it as many de, fortunately I am not the only one, and it strengthens me and indicates that the small light of my lamp can light up me and others in this thick fog. I owe the literary simile to my wife.

Thank you
GRACIAS

Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."

-Several. 48, 48, 48

Think of Moses' trek through the wilderness - I only needed Joshua and Caleb from the original gang to lead the people into the promised land.

And, think of Gideon's army. We went from thousands of soldiers down to 300 to conquer the enemy.

See, I'm not looking to organize an entire globe's worth of whiners and complainers to accomplish My will.

I look at everyone individually and if they meet My criteria I will use THEM to notify others of My will.

God is the Sovereign of the Universe..He has a plan..He has not changed that plan.

Check the first couple of chapters of Genesis You find his original purpose there

1. He provided a Paradise Earth..we were to look after and cultivate, and we were not designed to die. But we re deceived into rebelling against one condition he placed on us....

2. Thus death entered the world

3 Jesus was therst born of all creation along with God's dynamic power He dwelt with God for billions of years, creating the universe the angels and Earth and mankind .

4. The matter is sovereigny of God's name Jehovah which is why Jesus took on a fleshly body to die for the error of Adam the first perfect Human soul.

5. Thus the ranson of Jesus as a perfect human (the first being Adam, although the second was blameless) covered the ransom of Adam, for all who are prepared to observe commandments of Jesus (which he constantly says are not of his orginality but of Him who sent Him)

6 Jesus and Jehovah will provide as much time as is possible (but limited to God's timeframe!!)for mankind to get an accurate knowledge of Him who sent Him . (Which means everlasting life in the paradise he spoke of (The original Edenic conditions we were placed in (Eden) and death will be no more..(The kingdom Jesus based his whole Ministry on)

Thus Jesus as opposed to the sacrifices the Priests offered annually were now covered by the perfect life and sacrifice of Jesus who will be our King (ruling from heaven) and His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom which will destroy every prevailing Government and one that will not be replaced and will remain forever.

Until Jesus gives back all to God so that God can be all to everything. (after the 1000 year reign spoke of in Genesis)

Jesus death was on the Jewish calendar Nissan 14 which this year falls on March 22nd

Your post makes me think you are fairly young. It looks to me as if you are confusing the terms "God" and "religion".

Such a fuss.

Hello

Probably you have heard most of the following things before, and it is not very advanced what I want to say but believe me it is the only truth. God made it simple for us, but we don't like simple things, do we?

God does make sense when looking at all the complex living things. The living things and the rest of the creation have been made from what is invisible and was meant to bear witness of the invisible dimensions. Before the universe was created there was no material universe.

See this scripture:

Rom 1:20-23
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Imagine a DNA-molecule made by chance so it could form a body. It has to be perfect the first time it was formed. A soup of proteins could not form a living organism without the DNA. Even a bacteria is more complex in functions than the most advanced factory and all organisms contain the DNA.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. Everyone will be judged by God sometime. However, better before than later. After death it is right away to judgement. No more chances. Would you bet on that. Eternity is the price. Either you will accept Him or you will not. He will not force you. Would you force anyone to love you? If you try sincerely you will love him. But He doesn’t change Himself so that you may love Him.

To make a free universe He had to make entities with free will so everyone could choose freely to love Him. Otherwise the result would have been a dictatorship. The first intelligent entities were the angels. They were the sons of God, not begotten by Him, but created by Him. His only begotten Son is Jesus. Adam was created by God and is the only human son of God that was created.

However, some of the angels did not love God or were deceived by Satan not to love Him, and conspired against Him. God then had to device a plan to redeem the creation. To contain the rebels so that they should not make too much harm, He made hell in the inside of the Earth which thus originally functioned as a preliminary prison for the angeles. The humans who rebels, are also imprisoned there together with the angels when they die. All are awaiting the final judgement and will be punished according to their works.

God is the Godhead, consisting of three persons which are together one but with different functions. God the Father, the first person, commands; God the Son, the second person, executes with the help of the third person, The Holy Sprit (the ground worker, so to speak). To show His love for us and to convince us and all the creation that He meant business, He wanted to sacrifice Himself on our own terms, first suffer during His life just as we do, and then, even He was free of any guilt, He had to be punished by death on the cross. The smallest thought in our heads that is sinful, make us punishable by death. But luckily for us, God took the punishment on Himself. It was the second person who executed this work for us as the human which name was Jesus. So, Jesus was God, a spirit made flesh. With the help of the third person, The Holy Spirit, He performs the redemption work on us by helping us to see our sins. Individually, it can take different amount of time to do this work, and it can be done in different times during a life. When we have become ready to be shown us our sins or our inner selves, we are somehow been put on the block, and we can choose life or death simply by saying, I ask for forgiveness and accept your gift to me, which is Jesus. Or I just don’t bother, it is foolishness for me, I am what I am and believe in science or humans or whatever.

But when it is accepted, The Holy Spirit will indwell you and show you the path to living in righteous together with Him, and you will become coinheritors of the whole universe.

What is very important, the work is not so we can live without trouble in our lives in this world only. That would have been an utterly miserable performance. It is for the eternal Kingdom of God that will not be made out of this world but in a renewed world and Earth and a new Heaven because they have been made corrupt by rebel angels and sinful humans. This world (system that we live in) will be destroyed before Jesus sets up His millennium Kingdom.

Thus the whole creation will be redeemed. This occurs when Jesus first has reigned the thousand years during which also Satan will be imprisoned.


Blessings
KIO

How is He one?? yet three personalities

wake the fuck up , if you don't know that we are Gods you don't have a clue

Clarify God's

Great summary! The conditioning and the fear of belief systems are a self-contained cycle that just regurgitates itself over and over, because it is designed that way...

A self contained fear cycle, few are the ones who can see through it and escape it!

Rule through FEAR OF DEATH.

I completely agree with YOU! :)

Imagination is the key , thoughts become your reality.

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I don't think you know what you are talking about here.
I don't have the time to rebut in depth. Nothing I would say would change your mind so I won't comment except to say :


The Bible is very reliable source. There is plenty of evidence to support that claim. There is proof Jesus did say these things. Ever hear of witnesses ? How about the many who died and were martyred believing He said these things.

His disciples for one thing.

The Bible was not written and rewritten a hundred times by who you claim. It was written by either eye witnesses of Jesus or in the OT - by Moses , David etc - none of which were fear mongering power hungry priests who cared only of their fat bellies. YOu said that so can you back that up. I think not. You don't have any idea what you are talking about.

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IT IS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THE FUCKERS TPTB ARE FEAR MONGERING VIA GOV , RELIGIONS AND THE SHEEPLE CANNOT WAKE UP DAMMIT. THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE SHEEPLE , SO THEY BECOME ONE .


WE DO NOT NEED NO FUCKING GOVS , OR RELIGIONS , NO FUCKIN HEALTH CARE , IF THEY WOULD NOT POISON US WITH THE SHIT FOOD AND DRUGS THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR A HEALTH CARE , OUR CELLS IN BODY TOTALLY REGENERATE ITSELF AFTER 6 DAYS.

THE TRUTH IT THAT WE ARE THE ONLY GODS THERE ARE , WE CREATE THIS REALITY VIA OUR UNIFIED CONCIOUSSNESS. HOW THEY CAN LOVE IF ALL THEY GET VIA MEDIA IS MURDER DEATH AND DECAY? IT IS A CLOSED CYCLE , ONE NEEDS TO BREAK OUT OF THE CYCLE.

Good Morning God and Christ Haters!

Have a blessed day!

Grace and Peace to you, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!