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DEATH IS BIRTH INTO ANOTHER DIMENSION

 
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Rampa was way ahead of his time. He wrote about astral travel, UFOs, alien abductions and OBEs back in the 1950's. Needless to say he was ridiculed and belittled. Now, more than 50 years alter, these subjects are written about openly and accepted. Here is what Rampa wrote about dying.


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Until the Silver Cord be severed and the Golden Bowl be shattered, the astral form floating can pick up the thoughts of those who are making comments at its passing. Further, if a body be cremated in less than three days, there is often intense pain caused to the astral figure, and the pain, curiously enough, is not the pain of hot fire but of intense cold. So if you value those who have gone on before, and if you will do as you would be done by, you will whenever possible ensure that a person who has died, has three clear days in which to sever and disassociate completely from the physical body.....................

..............When your time of dying comes, then, keep an open mind, keep before your consciousness the thought that there are those very willing to help you, remember there is no such thing as Hell, there is no such thing as eternal damnation, there is no such thing as a vengeful God who desires only your destruction. We do not believe that one should 'fear God', we believe instead that if God is good, God should be loved, not feared. And - death also is good, it should be loved and welcomed with open arms when that time comes, but until that time comes - live according to the rule, 'Do as you would be done by.' (gjør mot andre - slik du selv vil bli behandlet).
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I'm surprised Christian Fundies haven't jumped all over this and tried to debunk it.
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I'm surprised Christian Fundies haven't jumped all over this and tried to debunk it.
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cHRISTIAN ARE SLEEPING AND HANG OVER !!
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bump
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I'm surprised Christian Fundies haven't jumped all over this and tried to debunk it.
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A) You only gave people 5 minutes to debunk it.

B) This is too complex for Christian Fundies weak minds.
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I'm surprised Christian Fundies haven't jumped all over this and tried to debunk it.



cHRISTIAN ARE SLEEPING AND HANG OVER !!
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Could be. Maybe it's too early in the day.
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Another load of shit
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I'm surprised Christian Fundies haven't jumped all over this and tried to debunk it.


A) You only gave people 5 minutes to debunk it.

B) This is too complex for Christian Fundies weak minds.
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I'll pick "B" Only 5 minutes you say? o.k. I'll check back later.
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THe light we are guided towards in death, is the opening of the vulva. As we re-enter the human experience, all previous knowledge is locked away deep within the soul.

Its not another dimension at all, its simply this one
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Ah, I see a Fundy debunker has arrived, and as expected, quoting from a book created by THE POWERS THAT BE, who have only one thing in mind and that is to enslave the sheeple. Fundies make excellent sheeple in that they give their power away to some fictious being and absolutely fear the thought of thinking for themselves.
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THe light we are guided towards in death, is the opening of the vulva. As we re-enter the human experience, all previous knowledge is locked away deep within the soul.

Its not another dimension at all, its simply this one
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As you beLIEve, so you create your own reality.
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B) This is too complex for Christian Fundies weak minds.
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Yeah, they're small minds couldn't handle this.
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Rampa and Hubbard would have got on well
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It's a common logical misconception that death is instantaneous. After a certain peak of activity and conscience, a person turns off and starts to die. This can happen in your early twenties and go on until your eighties. But it varies depending on the individual. A volatile reaction due to this charge of polarity propagates the soul to higher realms, and if you are strong enough, you may get into these higher realms and stay there for good. Some decide to come back though. Some "die" like, say, around 43 years old, but their physical bodies continues to exist in this realm, but just as an retrograded piece of flesh. The soulless "body" decays alive. Look around you, there is a lot of these decaying walking corpses running around these days. The market knows this and makes it best to use them as fuel (working force) and guinea pigs.

Death is a change of polarity, the completion of a cycle, that propagates the soul to higher realms. And it does not necessarily happen at once.
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It's a common logical misconception that death is instantaneous. After a certain peak of activity and conscience, a person turns off and starts to die. This can happen in your early twenties and go on until your eighties. But it varies depending on the individual. A volatile reaction due to this charge of polarity propagates the soul to higher realms, and if you are strong enough, you may get into these higher realms and stay there for good. Some decide to come back though. Some "die" like, say, around 43 years old, but their physical bodies continues to exist in this realm, but just as an retrograded piece of flesh. The soulless "body" decays alive. Look around you, there is a lot of these decaying walking corpses running around these days. The market knows this and makes it best to use them as fuel (working force) and guinea pigs.

Death is a change of polarity, the completion of a cycle, that propagates the soul to higher realms. And it does not necessarily happen at once.
 Quoting: edgar celadus 284955

So Bush died when he was 12
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T. Lobsang Rampa's books have helped me more than any others. I read them 25 years ago. They have helped me through many difficult situations, and have enabled me to connect to "source" for myself!
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THe light we are guided towards in death, is the opening of the vulva. As we re-enter the human experience, all previous knowledge is locked away deep within the soul.

Its not another dimension at all, its simply this one
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Until you create a new opening. Use your mind.
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Rampa was and is a great teacher that brought the teachings of the east to the west. In general, the west has a lot to learn from the east.
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this thread reminds me of the film WHAT THINGS MAY COME
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the majority of scientist now believe in the mutiverse, It is a bubble universe. You come in it birth and out death. The universe mirrors you. A thing spinning gains mass. All is spinning. Enought spiniing and the gravity becomes such that a black hole occurs and one is out of this reality and at the protonic level quantum bubbles vibrate into existance. Like the hindus said.
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this thread reminds me of the film WHAT THINGS MAY COME
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I believe the movie was called What Dreams May Come.

Im sure the porn industry has bastardized this film title too.
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I'm surprised Christian Fundies haven't jumped all over this and tried to debunk it.
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Well here is one "fundie" who knows a little about spiritual dimensions, so let me take a shot at it.

First, Death and Hell are dimensional "gatekeepers" so to speak to the multiple dimensions that were created primarily to hold the dead until the final judgment. According to scriptures, Death and Hell are the last enemies to be cast into the lake of fire, so it seems that both of these principalities are more along the lines of the "fallen variety" of angelic host.

At the "Great White throne judgment" of Revelation 20:11-15 gives this account of what happens to those in these holding dimensions. "vs.13, "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and Death and Hell delivered up the dead which were in them (plural meaning multiple dimensions): and they were judged every man according to his works." vs.14, " And death and hell were cast into the Lake of fire, this is the second death."

So here is clear evidence that once a person dies, and is transfered to the astral planes of the various holding dimensions that is not the end of it, that there will be a day of reckoning in which each person will be judged according to their works. vs.15,"And whosoever was not found in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." And that my friend is the end of all things if you happen to be cast into the lake of fire which burneth day and night and the worm dieth not. Eternal burning and suffering. Oh well. That's why the decisions of this life are so important, and those who reject Jesus Christ are called fools.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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I'm surprised Christian Fundies haven't jumped all over this and tried to debunk it.



Well here is one "fundie" who knows a little about spiritual dimensions, so let me take a shot at it.

First, Death and Hell are dimensional "gatekeepers" so to speak to the multiple dimensions that were created primarily to hold the dead until the final judgment. According to scriptures, Death and Hell are the last enemies to be cast into the lake of fire, so it seems that both of these principalities are more along the lines of the "fallen variety" of angelic host.

At the "Great White throne judgment" of Revelation 20:11-15 gives this account of what happens to those in these holding dimensions. "vs.13, "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and Death and Hell delivered up the dead which were in them (plural meaning multiple dimensions): and they were judged every man according to his works." vs.14, " And death and hell were cast into the Lake of fire, this is the second death."

So here is clear evidence that once a person dies, and is transfered to the astral planes of the various holding dimensions that is not the end of it, that there will be a day of reckoning in which each person will be judged according to their works. vs.15,"And whosoever was not found in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." And that my friend is the end of all things if you happen to be cast into the lake of fire which burneth day and night and the worm dieth not. Eternal burning and suffering. Oh well. That's why the decisions of this life are so important, and those who reject Jesus Christ are called fools.
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Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.....
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I embrace Jesus' original teachings. Unfortunately, much of this has been lost over the centuries.
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I'm surprised Christian Fundies haven't jumped all over this and tried to debunk it.



Well here is one "fundie" who knows a little about spiritual dimensions, so let me take a shot at it.

First, Death and Hell are dimensional "gatekeepers" so to speak to the multiple dimensions that were created primarily to hold the dead until the final judgment. According to scriptures, Death and Hell are the last enemies to be cast into the lake of fire, so it seems that both of these principalities are more along the lines of the "fallen variety" of angelic host.

At the "Great White throne judgment" of Revelation 20:11-15 gives this account of what happens to those in these holding dimensions. "vs.13, "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and Death and Hell delivered up the dead which were in them (plural meaning multiple dimensions): and they were judged every man according to his works." vs.14, " And death and hell were cast into the Lake of fire, this is the second death."

So here is clear evidence that once a person dies, and is transfered to the astral planes of the various holding dimensions that is not the end of it, that there will be a day of reckoning in which each person will be judged according to their works. vs.15,"And whosoever was not found in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." And that my friend is the end of all things if you happen to be cast into the lake of fire which burneth day and night and the worm dieth not. Eternal burning and suffering. Oh well. That's why the decisions of this life are so important, and those who reject Jesus Christ are called fools.


Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.....
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Let he who has ears to hear, let him hear...
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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I agree that no sane people should incinerate their former bodies; it's a bad karma to burn up your dead body; you should Ascend with it turning it into pure White Light or just give it back to the earth without burning it; burning is very malevolent custom.
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Like all animals, I am afraid that you are going to be very disappointed when you die and find.......nothing!
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you're wormfood or ashes. there is nothing else.
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I think i must have come back to the wrong dimension then...
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Strange way some spiritual teachings give to fire.

Fire is supposed to be the symbol of transformation. Incinerating a body, giving the body to the animals (worms or any other) is irrelevant for the spirit, in my opinion.

Some cultures think the body should be buried, some think should be incinerated, some think it should be left on top of a mountain, sent to the ocean, etc.

Matter of preferences, I think.
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THe light we are guided towards in death, is the opening of the vulva. As we re-enter the human experience, all previous knowledge is locked away deep within the soul.

Its not another dimension at all, its simply this one


As you beLIEve, so you create your own reality.
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If you beLIEve in re-incarnation, then that is exactly what you will experience. I myself rather favor simultaneous incarnations. "Time" is but an illusion.

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