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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 404615 04/01/2008 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have read it several times. You can see its effect in the Old And new Testament. Also the Dead sea scrolls Have the book of Enoch in them but their under lock and key owned by the Mossad and the Rockefeller foundation. They have confirmed the the Ethiopian books are the same as in the Dead Sea Scrolls.they refuse to transcribe most of the Dead Sea Scrolls or let any body near them for obvious reasons. |
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| Phosphoros User ID: 412230 04/10/2008 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can see its effect in the Old And new Testament. Also the Dead sea scrolls have the book of Enoch in them... They have confirmed the Ethiopian books are the same as in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 404615The Calendar lacking in the Biblical Canon is here found also. It is even surmised that a place like and near the famed Stonehenge is where Enoch ascended to! he who is overcoming, and who is keeping unto the end my works, I will give to him -- as I also have received from my Father; and I will give to him THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR. He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies. |
| erimia User ID: 116503 04/10/2008 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read this story. It is the tale of a man who had personal experience with HAARP in Alaska and amazingly, it links finally to the prophecies of the Queen of Sheba, the Book of Enoch and some places in America where petroglyphs are found that 'just by coincidence', are lately being taken over and shut off to the public by the military. The writing in some of the petroglyphs of interest is exactly of the same type as that found in Yemen, the old country of that fabled queen. Curiouser and curiouser. She warned of a hole in the sky. The story, I found at Viewzone, which is certain to bring a laugh from some, but for those who are familiar with Enoch and with the recent excavations and discoveries in Yemen, this will be more than just a joke and pastime for bored GLP'ers. Here: [link to www.mondovista.com] |
| Eyes Wide Open (OP) User ID: 411420 04/10/2008 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read this story. It is the tale of a man who had personal experience with HAARP in Alaska and amazingly, it links finally to the prophecies of the Queen of Sheba, the Book of Enoch and some places in America where petroglyphs are found that 'just by coincidence', are lately being taken over and shut off to the public by the military. The writing in some of the petroglyphs of interest is exactly of the same type as that found in Yemen, the old country of that fabled queen. Curiouser and curiouser. She warned of a hole in the sky. Quoting: erimia 116503The story, I found at Viewzone, which is certain to bring a laugh from some, but for those who are familiar with Enoch and with the recent excavations and discoveries in Yemen, this will be more than just a joke and pastime for bored GLP'ers. Here: [link to www.mondovista.com] Thanks for the link, I've saved it and will read it when I've rested! ewoofglp@gmail.com Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Albert Einstein [link to eyeswideopen111.stumbleupon.com] "For what are fifty, what a thousand slaves, match'd to the sinew of a single arm that strikes for Liberty?" A Nation Of Sheep Soon Begets A Government Of Wolves [link to i111.photobucket.com] |
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| ninigiku User ID: 411978 04/11/2008 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, so jacob saw a "ladder" reaching up from the earth and into the heavens? there is alot more to the story than that. enochian angel stuff is actually based on something that is more relevant than most people will ever understand, but i'm not really into it. go to the sumerian sources (with sitchins help), and figure it out for yourself. WARNING: sitchin does not attempt to inform you of Earth's history past the point of 2000 BC. the next two thousand years until Christ appeared are a whole different story. this "story" might involve the disappearance of the Anunnaki-Nephalim... it might involve at least ONE of them remaining on Earth... which one is it, Marduk/Ra? is he still alive? perhaps he left when "jesus" did... see these are questions. sarcalogos solus redemptor |
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| Eyes Wide Open (OP) User ID: 411420 04/11/2008 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's mostly bogus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 413101There may exist a genuine article which is not available to the public. That's easy to say... What's bogus about it? ewoofglp@gmail.com Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Albert Einstein [link to eyeswideopen111.stumbleupon.com] "For what are fifty, what a thousand slaves, match'd to the sinew of a single arm that strikes for Liberty?" A Nation Of Sheep Soon Begets A Government Of Wolves [link to i111.photobucket.com] |
| erimia User ID: 90189 04/11/2008 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Erimia (ID 116 503), please, may I ask You to give me some more info regarding the excavations in Yemen (lionk?). Thank you! Quoting: Maha Asthma 375748Welln you can start here on the main page that linked to that story I brought in. [link to www.viewzone.com] Scroll down till you see on the right a picture of the Queen of Sheba carved in stone and an article or two linked under it - it's easy to notice. There are many photos and explanations there. Also, the 'viewzone' crew took a trip of their own to Yemen and there are good pictures with that article also. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 412123 04/11/2008 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's mostly bogus. Quoting: Eyes Wide OpenThere may exist a genuine article which is not available to the public. That's easy to say... What's bogus about it? you put out things about the bible and christianity that are as suspect as you are. fair use Book of Enoch Over time, periodically, people have asked this or that about the Book of Enoch. Having been busy with the VW-edition the past couple years, I did not wish to be diverted to spend the time to read it; so have always answered the queries with, "I don't know". But now that it is finished, I took a few hours to skim/read through what I was able to find posted on the internet, labeled as "1 Enoch". I don't know if that means there's also 2 and/or 3? But what was in "1 Enoch" was 'quite' enough! 1 Enoch is a book full of "doctrines of demons" (1Tm4:1) and is dedicated to satan and his demons. Furthermore, I seriously doubt it was written by anybody during Enoch's time; Judas' quote, notwithstanding (Ju1:14-15); which will be addressed near the end. I realize that there are theories as to the book's origins. I don't know about them, nor do I have time to research the matter. The book speaks for itself. Just as most cults and other teachers of false doctrine can be ascertained usually within a few minutes of browsing their materials, without the need to dig deeply, thus is also the case with this book. My reading was on-the-surface, and I found plenty, without needing to dig deeply into the "depths of satan". (Rev2:24) To keep this simple, let's observe the things I notated as I read, in order, and then I'll make a few closing remarks. These examples are representative of what is in the book. It is -full- of things just like what we will observe here: Section I 1:5 It names "Mt Sinai". Let's remember that Enoch lived before the flood, and was "translated" (Heb11:5) about 700 years before the flood. Most of earth's current geological features came about because of the flood. Thus, did Sinai even exist before the flood? 2:3 Mentions "summer and winter". The seasons did not come to be until after the flood. (Gen8:22) 2:3 Speaks of "rain". Again, before the flood, it did not rain, but a "mist" watered the earth. (Gen2:5-6) 4:1 Another mention of "summer" 6:6 Names "Mt Hermon". For the same reasons as Sinai (above); did it yet exist during Enoch's time? Thus, the notion that it was not written by Enoch, but by people after the flood. 10:20 God telling angels (Michael) to cleanse the earth from sin...not Jesus? It is "..the blood of Jesus Christ His Son" that "cleanses us from every sin." (1Jn1:7) 10:21 With this cleansing the angels effect...men will be "righteous". The Bible says that righteousness comes from God through Christ. (2Cor5:21) and it is the "righteousness of God" (Rom3:22); not angels. Angels are "ministers". (Heb1:7,14) 13:4 The demons ask Enoch to intercede for them. Since when? If anything, Paul informs us that the saints will "judge" the angels (demons are fallen angels). (1Cor6:3) 13:7 Mentions the "land of Dan". Israel did not yet exist. 13:10 Enoch reprimands the angels. Judas1:8-10 speaks of this. It would seem that this passage provides the basis for those Judas condemns, who "speak evil of dignitaries"; and gives the example how Michael, even, would not rebuke satan, but says, "The Lord rebuke you". (Ju1:9) Since Enoch "walked with God" it seems highly unlikely he would have done this. Section II 39:1 Holy children mixing seed with the children of men. I don't quite have an answer to this one, because men become "holy" through faith in Christ. And if there are "holy" ones, and sinners, the holy ones are not to be "unequally yoked" with unbelievers. (2Cor6:14) The place where Scripture speaks of the mixing of seed with humanity is in Gen6:1-2, and that was a bad thing, part of the corruption, for which reason God destroyed the world with the flood. The only other similar kind of passage in Scripture is Dan2:43; and there, too, the context of end events is NOT 'good'. 67:2 Angels make a "wooden" something-or-other (missing word)...to "preserve seed" And yet, Scripture is quite clear, that -NOAH- built the ark at God's command. (Gen6:14~) Note: Throughout the entire book, the emphasis is on 'angels' and 'spirits'. Angels do things, give commands, and are listed and named. The kind of recognition given to great men, by listing and recording names. Not very much at all about God. It's as if God is somehow 'incidental'...but the main activity is being done by angels. I suspect, if a person were to study the book more in-depth (which I will not do), one would find the seeds of how most pagans, catholics, and other liturgically-based beliefs view angels. Setting them up to be worshiped. The book has the feel of a document intended to 'teach' people about things not really intended for man at this time: "..worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen.." (Col2:18) Section III This section seems to plant the seeds for astrology. There is a lot of mention of "portals" where the sun and moon rise and set throughout the seasons. As I read, I found it quite easy to visualize Stonehenge and other such structures that exist around the world; how these "portals" could easily have been the 'openings' between those stone pillars. I don't know if there is any basis to this, but it was easy to see a potential parallel there. 72:3 Speaks of how the sun rises and sets...not earth rotating? 72:5 At night, the sun returns through the north to get back to the east 72:5 Sun riding chariot... how pagan is that?! 72:37 Proclaims the sun and moon to be equal in size. Scripture would not proclaim such a scientific error. 77:1 South where Most High will descend...Christ comes "east to west" "For as the lightning comes out of the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be." (Mt24:27) 80:1 All the things about the universe, planets (Enoch is even supposedly whisked off to see the very 'edge' of the universe); and all this is being taught to him by the angel Uriel. Seems somehow reminiscent of Mormon (the name of a demon) teaching: that Adam and Eve traversed to the moon and back. 82:13 Angels have names as "leaders" of the sun/moon/stars. The angels supposedly are the originators of all the stars, are responsible for them in their orbits and existence; and are the basis for regular festivities (82:9) Sounds a lot like the beginings of astrology and the worship of the "host of the heavens" (De4:19, 2Ki17:16, 21:3,5, etc) Whereas Scripture tells us that the universe was created by God's "fingers" and that He "established" them. (Ps8:3) And He set them for "signs and seasons". (Gen1:14) Section IV 83:10 Sun is given personality..."him". Seeds of sun-worship; as god's are assumed to have 'personalities'. Section V 92:1 Claims that Enoch "indeed" wrote the book. 100:10 Claims that God "inquires of the angels" as to one's deeds. It is Jesus Christ who knows humanity to the "division of soul and spirit and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Heb4:12) Why does God need angels to inform Him? God "..knows the secrets of the heart.." (Ps44:21) "O Jehovah, You have searched me and known me. You know my sitting down and my rising up; You understand my thoughts afar off. You have sifted through my way of life and my lying down, and are familiar with all my ways. For there is not a word on my tongue, but behold, O Jehovah, You know it altogether." (~Ps139:1-4) 104:1 Says that angels remember one's good before God. It is Believers who will judge angels (1Cor6:3); not the other way around. 106:1~~ Noah born a super-natural being... 106:2 eyes glowed with sun-like brilliance from birth...speaking from the womb... Just the same way pagan demonic entities are portrayed. When a person is supposedly 'possessed', others know it because their eyes glow, and they speak with a different kind of voice. 106:6 Claims Noah was not conceived from human seed...but from angels. Directly contradicting Scripture which proclaims, "These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generation. Noah walked with God." (Gen6:9) 106:8 Necromancy: communicating with the departed. Methuselah contacts Enoch after his translation on behalf of Lamech. Enoch couldn't have written it: It contains information that was only known, or in existence, -AFTER- the flood. Enoch was raptured 700 years before the flood. And furthermore, with all these doctrines of demons that it contains, such a man who "walked with God" (Gen5:22,24) would have had no part with demons in the manner suggested in this book. Where the Bible proclaims, "Thus says Jehovah", this book of "Enoch" proclaims, essentially, 'thus said the angel/s'. So, what about the fact that Judas quotes Enoch? (Ju1:14-15) Indeed, that quote is found in Enoch 1:9. The book practically opens with that quote. Does the fact that Judas quotes it, detract from the authenticity of the epistle of Judas? (That's the book just before Revelation, that has been incorrectly translation by others with the 'catholic' name "Jude") I suspect that the book of Enoch actually likely contains many of Enoch's actual words. Just because a book-of-demons contains some true statements, does not make the entire work True. Most false teaching often contains even as much as 95% truth. Satan and his minions are busy deceiving humanity, appearing as "ministers of righteousness". (2Cor11:15) In order to appear thus, they have to proclaim at least 'some' truth. Perhaps the writers of Enoch (whoever they may have been), opened with Enoch's well-known quote, for the specific purpose of fooling people into believing it to be a credible work? What better way, than to put Enoch's "stamp" on the book, right as it opens! However, the amount of 'truth' in this book is no-where-near 95%. It is so full of falsehood, one is left wondering what may actually be truth! But even though the book opens with Enoch's words, and also happens to contain some very authentic-seeming 'dreams/visions' of true things regarding Israel, the flood, heaven and hell, etc; the rest of the book is a work of demons. Certainly, it contains many concepts which cause the reader's mind to wander out to the stars of the ends of the universe, and for the unwary, could captivate their soul to accept these (demonic) "spirits", of which it speaks so much. Yes, it may contain at least 'one' actual quote of Enoch, just as satan also quoted the Scriptures to Jesus when tempting Him (Mt4:6); but the book, itself, is from the very pits of hell! For the Believer in Jesus Christ, who is versed in the Scriptures, the Book of Enoch should not even raise any questions, as to its evilness! Now that I've read it, it really surprises (amazes) me that it is even questioned amongst so-called Christians!! Just be a "Berean" and "search the Scriptures"... are the things it says, "so"? (Ac17:11) If you know the Scriptures, and then read "Enoch", you will know that it is NOT! No question! [link to www.a-voice.org] |
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| Eyes Wide Open (OP) User ID: 411420 04/11/2008 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genesis 6 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV) Genesis 6 1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. 8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. 9These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. 10And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 11The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. 13And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 15And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits. 16A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it. 17And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. 18But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee. 19And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. 20Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive. 21And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them. 22Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he. ewoofglp@gmail.com Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Albert Einstein [link to eyeswideopen111.stumbleupon.com] "For what are fifty, what a thousand slaves, match'd to the sinew of a single arm that strikes for Liberty?" A Nation Of Sheep Soon Begets A Government Of Wolves [link to i111.photobucket.com] |
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| Eyes Wide Open (OP) User ID: 411420 04/11/2008 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ewo I refuted your bogus enoch propaganda and u reply with bible verses not even referring to the topic. u are a fraud and God sees all Quoting: Anonymous Coward 412123What's the matter tard... don't know what the subject matter is? ewoofglp@gmail.com Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Albert Einstein [link to eyeswideopen111.stumbleupon.com] "For what are fifty, what a thousand slaves, match'd to the sinew of a single arm that strikes for Liberty?" A Nation Of Sheep Soon Begets A Government Of Wolves [link to i111.photobucket.com] |
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