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It's mostly bogus.

There may exist a genuine article which is not available to the public.



That's easy to say... What's bogus about it?
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you put out things about the bible and christianity that are as suspect as you are.

fair use

Book of Enoch

Over time, periodically, people have asked this or that about the Book
of Enoch. Having been busy with the VW-edition the past couple years, I
did not wish to be diverted to spend the time to read it; so have always
answered the queries with, "I don't know". But now that it is finished,
I took a few hours to skim/read through what I was able to find posted
on the internet, labeled as "1 Enoch". I don't know if that means
there's also 2 and/or 3? But what was in "1 Enoch" was 'quite' enough!

1 Enoch is a book full of "doctrines of demons" (1Tm4:1) and is
dedicated to satan and his demons. Furthermore, I seriously doubt it was
written by anybody during Enoch's time; Judas' quote, notwithstanding
(Ju1:14-15); which will be addressed near the end.

I realize that there are theories as to the book's origins. I don't know
about them, nor do I have time to research the matter. The book speaks
for itself. Just as most cults and other teachers of false doctrine can
be ascertained usually within a few minutes of browsing their materials,
without the need to dig deeply, thus is also the case with this book. My
reading was on-the-surface, and I found plenty, without needing to dig
deeply into the "depths of satan". (Rev2:24)

To keep this simple, let's observe the things I notated as I read, in
order, and then I'll make a few closing remarks. These examples are
representative of what is in the book. It is -full- of things just like
what we will observe here:

Section I
1:5 It names "Mt Sinai". Let's remember that Enoch lived before the
flood, and was "translated" (Heb11:5) about 700 years before the
flood. Most of earth's current geological features came about
because of the flood. Thus, did Sinai even exist before the
flood?

2:3 Mentions "summer and winter". The seasons did not come to
be until after the flood. (Gen8:22)

2:3 Speaks of "rain". Again, before the flood, it did not rain, but
a "mist" watered the earth. (Gen2:5-6)

4:1 Another mention of "summer"

6:6 Names "Mt Hermon". For the same reasons as Sinai (above); did it
yet exist during Enoch's time? Thus, the notion that it was not
written by Enoch, but by people after the flood.

10:20 God telling angels (Michael) to cleanse the earth from sin...not
Jesus? It is "..the blood of Jesus Christ His Son" that
"cleanses us from every sin." (1Jn1:7)

10:21 With this cleansing the angels effect...men will be "righteous".
The Bible says that righteousness comes from God through Christ.
(2Cor5:21) and it is the "righteousness of God" (Rom3:22); not
angels. Angels are "ministers". (Heb1:7,14)

13:4 The demons ask Enoch to intercede for them. Since when? If
anything, Paul informs us that the saints will "judge" the
angels (demons are fallen angels). (1Cor6:3)

13:7 Mentions the "land of Dan". Israel did not yet exist.

13:10 Enoch reprimands the angels. Judas1:8-10 speaks of this. It
would seem that this passage provides the basis for those Judas
condemns, who "speak evil of dignitaries"; and gives the
example how Michael, even, would not rebuke satan, but says,
"The Lord rebuke you". (Ju1:9) Since Enoch "walked with God"
it seems highly unlikely he would have done this.

Section II
39:1 Holy children mixing seed with the children of men. I don't
quite have an answer to this one, because men become "holy"
through faith in Christ. And if there are "holy" ones, and
sinners, the holy ones are not to be "unequally yoked" with
unbelievers. (2Cor6:14) The place where Scripture speaks of
the mixing of seed with humanity is in Gen6:1-2, and that was
a bad thing, part of the corruption, for which reason God
destroyed the world with the flood. The only other similar
kind of passage in Scripture is Dan2:43; and there, too, the
context of end events is NOT 'good'.

67:2 Angels make a "wooden" something-or-other (missing word)...to
"preserve seed" And yet, Scripture is quite clear, that -NOAH-
built the ark at God's command. (Gen6:14~)

Note: Throughout the entire book, the emphasis is on 'angels' and
'spirits'. Angels do things, give commands, and are listed and
named. The kind of recognition given to great men, by listing
and recording names. Not very much at all about God. It's as if
God is somehow 'incidental'...but the main activity is being
done by angels. I suspect, if a person were to study the book
more in-depth (which I will not do), one would find the seeds
of how most pagans, catholics, and other liturgically-based
beliefs view angels. Setting them up to be worshiped. The book
has the feel of a document intended to 'teach' people about
things not really intended for man at this time: "..worship of
angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen.."
(Col2:18)

Section III
This section seems to plant the seeds for astrology.

There is a lot of mention of "portals" where the sun and moon
rise and set throughout the seasons. As I read, I found it
quite easy to visualize Stonehenge and other such structures
that exist around the world; how these "portals" could easily
have been the 'openings' between those stone pillars. I don't
know if there is any basis to this, but it was easy to see a
potential parallel there.

72:3 Speaks of how the sun rises and sets...not earth rotating?

72:5 At night, the sun returns through the north to get back to the
east

72:5 Sun riding chariot... how pagan is that?!

72:37 Proclaims the sun and moon to be equal in size. Scripture would
not proclaim such a scientific error.

77:1 South where Most High will descend...Christ comes "east to west"
"For as the lightning comes out of the east and flashes to the
west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be." (Mt24:27)

80:1 All the things about the universe, planets (Enoch is even
supposedly whisked off to see the very 'edge' of the universe);
and all this is being taught to him by the angel Uriel. Seems
somehow reminiscent of Mormon (the name of a demon) teaching:
that Adam and Eve traversed to the moon and back.

82:13 Angels have names as "leaders" of the sun/moon/stars. The angels
supposedly are the originators of all the stars, are responsible
for them in their orbits and existence; and are the basis for
regular festivities (82:9) Sounds a lot like the beginings of
astrology and the worship of the "host of the heavens" (De4:19,
2Ki17:16, 21:3,5, etc) Whereas Scripture tells us that the
universe was created by God's "fingers" and that He
"established" them. (Ps8:3) And He set them for "signs and
seasons". (Gen1:14)

Section IV
83:10 Sun is given personality..."him". Seeds of sun-worship; as
god's are assumed to have 'personalities'.

Section V
92:1 Claims that Enoch "indeed" wrote the book.

100:10 Claims that God "inquires of the angels" as to one's deeds. It
is Jesus Christ who knows humanity to the "division of soul and
spirit and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the
heart." (Heb4:12) Why does God need angels to inform Him? God
"..knows the secrets of the heart.." (Ps44:21) "O Jehovah, You
have searched me and known me. You know my sitting down and my
rising up; You understand my thoughts afar off. You have sifted
through my way of life and my lying down, and are familiar with
all my ways. For there is not a word on my tongue, but behold,
O Jehovah, You know it altogether." (~Ps139:1-4)

104:1 Says that angels remember one's good before God. It is Believers
who will judge angels (1Cor6:3); not the other way around.

106:1~~ Noah born a super-natural being...

106:2 eyes glowed with sun-like brilliance from birth...speaking from
the womb... Just the same way pagan demonic entities are
portrayed. When a person is supposedly 'possessed', others know
it because their eyes glow, and they speak with a different kind
of voice.

106:6 Claims Noah was not conceived from human seed...but from angels.
Directly contradicting Scripture which proclaims, "These are the
generations of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his
generation. Noah walked with God." (Gen6:9)

106:8 Necromancy: communicating with the departed. Methuselah
contacts Enoch after his translation on behalf of Lamech.

Enoch couldn't have written it: It contains information that was only
known, or in existence, -AFTER- the flood. Enoch was raptured 700 years
before the flood. And furthermore, with all these doctrines of demons
that it contains, such a man who "walked with God" (Gen5:22,24) would
have had no part with demons in the manner suggested in this book.

Where the Bible proclaims, "Thus says Jehovah", this book of "Enoch"
proclaims, essentially, 'thus said the angel/s'.

So, what about the fact that Judas quotes Enoch? (Ju1:14-15) Indeed,
that quote is found in Enoch 1:9. The book practically opens with that
quote. Does the fact that Judas quotes it, detract from the authenticity
of the epistle of Judas? (That's the book just before Revelation, that
has been incorrectly translation by others with the 'catholic' name
"Jude")

I suspect that the book of Enoch actually likely contains many of
Enoch's actual words. Just because a book-of-demons contains some true
statements, does not make the entire work True. Most false teaching
often contains even as much as 95% truth. Satan and his minions are busy
deceiving humanity, appearing as "ministers of righteousness".
(2Cor11:15) In order to appear thus, they have to proclaim at least
'some' truth. Perhaps the writers of Enoch (whoever they may have been),
opened with Enoch's well-known quote, for the specific purpose of
fooling people into believing it to be a credible work? What better way,
than to put Enoch's "stamp" on the book, right as it opens! However, the
amount of 'truth' in this book is no-where-near 95%. It is so full of
falsehood, one is left wondering what may actually be truth!

But even though the book opens with Enoch's words, and also happens to
contain some very authentic-seeming 'dreams/visions' of true things
regarding Israel, the flood, heaven and hell, etc; the rest of the book
is a work of demons. Certainly, it contains many concepts which cause
the reader's mind to wander out to the stars of the ends of the
universe, and for the unwary, could captivate their soul to accept these
(demonic) "spirits", of which it speaks so much. Yes, it may contain at
least 'one' actual quote of Enoch, just as satan also quoted the
Scriptures to Jesus when tempting Him (Mt4:6); but the book, itself, is
from the very pits of hell!

For the Believer in Jesus Christ, who is versed in the Scriptures, the
Book of Enoch should not even raise any questions, as to its evilness!
Now that I've read it, it really surprises (amazes) me that it is even
questioned amongst so-called Christians!! Just be a "Berean" and "search
the Scriptures"... are the things it says, "so"? (Ac17:11) If you know
the Scriptures, and then read "Enoch", you will know that it is NOT! No
question!

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