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Is HOMOSEXUALITY GENETIC? OR A CHOICE??

 
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Is HOMOSEXUALITY GENETIC? OR A CHOICE??
my bible friends tell me that gays will go to hell since they are GAY(HEY)
But i think
it is more of a genetic and environmental factor
which is not ther fault

what is it
homosexuality=a choice??
or BORN WITHIN??

any answers?
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Born with it, genetic.
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Maybe that is all it is.
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Maybe it's somewhat in their genes, as far as attraction to the same sex goes, but......they do have a choice as to how to handle it. Nothing is forcing them to act on the urges, they don't have to just accept it as who they are. In fact there have been those who had same sex attractions, fought and overcame them, and married someone of the opposite sex and had a happy family with them. So it's not like you're stuck gay or lesbian. Perception is key here, if you don't think you can be anything else then you won't be.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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My brother and uncle are gay and it is my opinion that it is a combination of factors that include genetics, culture(brainwashing), and to some extent free will.

I have a girlfriend that likes chicks too, a best friend who is a woman trapped in a man's body, and no less than a 100 pedophiles live in my neighborhood according to the Megan's law website.

Me, I'm into orgies. It is my choice to get turned on to such things and I'm not going to change for you and your religious beliefs.

For those of us who are consenting adults, we ask that you get out of our bedrooms. We are good, honest, hard working people who want nothing more than to be left alone.

Can't we just fuck in peace?
hf hf
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Everything is a bio-mechanical cause and effect scenario. If a guy is attracted to a guy, and things are defined by function, and the function of male female is only there to preserve the species, then "gay" is a bio-mechanical glitch in the program. Guys are not "built" (by definition) to mate with guys. If they do, it's just a construction error.
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My brother and uncle are gay and it is my opinion that it is a combination of factors that include genetics, culture(brainwashing), and to some extent free will.

I have a girlfriend that likes chicks too, a best friend who is a woman trapped in a man's body, and no less than a 100 pedophiles live in my neighborhood according to the Megan's law website.

Me, I'm into orgies. It is my choice to get turned on to such things and I'm not going to change for you and your religious beliefs.

For those of us who are consenting adults, we ask that you get out of our bedrooms. We are good, honest, hard working people who want nothing more than to be left alone.

Can't we just fuck in peace?
hf hf
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A disease. An abomination. There is a cure. Seek it or die.
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If i was you guys (or gals) I'd stop indulging in wishful thinking...

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I think some are "born that way" although I don't think there has ever been conclusive proof that it's actually genetic (has there?). But some really do show signs when they are very young.

I majority of the gay people I know turn out to have been molested as children. I think this could be a huge factor.
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What aboot the gay dogs and monkeys and other animals, too?
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Well gee, lol, is heterosexuality genetic or choice?
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Maybe the REAL problem is your Bible.
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First, our current American society is plagued by a lack of understanding of basic science and is, therefore, subject to a number of fanciful theories about life, the universe and everything.

About homosexuality: the science is inconclusive at this point. Various research has indicated a number of possible factors, which includes a genetic basis or even brain chemistry. There is even a theory that suggests it could be part of an evolutionary pattern that assures that the Alpha male reproduces, because the homosexual would not compete for available females. Also, it is a fact that homosexuality occurs among animals in nature. That, alone, would suggest that it's not a choice or a lifestyle.

Another scientific fact is that sexuality is as varied as IQ, and can be measured on a Bell Curve like IQs. The median IQ on the curve is called, "average," with an equal number being below and above. In sexuality, the median would be bi-sexual, while half would lean towards heterosexuality and half would lean towards homosexuality to varying degrees. The reason that this is not apparent in American society is because of historical, Puritan influences. People repress their sexual impulses in this country, because of peer pressure to conform to a puritanical template of behavior. The attitude of prejudice and contempt regarding homosexuals here in the US is unique in western history. The ancient Greeks thought nothing of it, for instance. So, it's a *cultural* bias to hold homosexuals in contempt.

That contempt is promoted by the evangelical movement. After the fall of the Soviet Union, I watched as Pat Robertson, who suddenly didn't have the communists to frighten people with, changed his commentary literally overnight to suggest that homosexuals had an "agenda" that was bound to destroy "the children." He would even provide pictures from the Gay Pride Parades across the country to further emphacize his point. Of course, he chose the ones that would frighten puritans the most: the ones where gay people were dressed up in leather with dog collars and such. And these exhibitionists that Robertson showed on his TV program are not at all representative of the gay community at large. Not any more so than exhibitionists are in the general society. But that attitude that Robertson promoted over 18 years ago when the Soviet Union fell -- that commentary, that perspective and perception -- has leaked out into the common discourse of this country. And some other Protestant churches have followed his lead over the years. After all, to frighten people into believing that homosexuals are bound to destroy this country brings in money.

Of course, gays do have an agenda -- which is to be treated and accepted just like anybody else. Like human beings. And the political movement that works towards homosexual marriage is a matter of equality under the law. But yes, let's have an amendment to the Constitution that would protect marriage. To make it effective, however, it would have to abolish divorce! That's how silly this whole thing has become.

And this whole thing could be settled if everyone would just do what Jesus told us to do:
"Love thy neighbor ..." Or maybe, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Bottom line: being gay is not a choice.
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Re: Is HOMOSEXUALITY GENETIC? OR A CHOICE??
my bible friends tell me that gays will go to hell since they are GAY(HEY)
But i think
it is more of a genetic and environmental factor
which is not ther fault

what is it
homosexuality=a choice??
or BORN WITHIN??

any answers?
 Quoting: dannyjjang


There is no eternal punishment.
It's a control structure from humankind.
Brought from church to control by fear.
A lot in bible is diverted and twisted.

The brain is a communication center,
an interface with Your Consciousness. Your
thoughts and emotions are NOT created into
the brain but reflected in biological processes.

Homosexuality is not genetic,
but it can reflect into the body.
Science do make interpretations of the results. Not of the cause.

You are free to express Yourself.
In the Garden, the One Divine Soul has created.
Someone who is gay is no less as another.

More, a lot of them do have, more Insight.
Because they did fight for freedom of expression.

Known, many of You,
in past lifes as Roman, Greek, Egyptian etc
did mate with the same sex.

Love set free. Remember.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur
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A couple of articles that may answer your query;

Gay Gene Debate

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Not a choice

[link to www.webmd.com]

Most scientists today agree that sexual orientation is the result of a combination of environmental, emotional, hormonal, and biological factors. In other words, there are many factors that contribute to a person's sexual orientation, and the factors may be different for different people.

However, homosexuality and bisexuality are not caused by the way a child was reared by his or her parents, or by having a sexual experience with someone of the same sex when the person was young. Also, being homosexual or bisexual does not mean the person is mentally ill or abnormal in some way, although there may be social problems that result from prejudicial attitudes or misinformation.
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I think the homosexual culture has a rating system- 1 is sort of the traditional jockish-hunter-drag'em back to the lair by the hair kinda guy, and 5 is box of birds homosexual with a closet full of shoes. I think the choice is more in the middle levels unless survival forces the extremes to go against their own personality..... We have a little boy in our babysitting coop and I don't know what the home life is like, but he's liked dolls and shoes since he was 2 and a half. I haven't had such a young example to completely convince me before.
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The soul is androgynous. When we incarnate into the physical we choose the sex that is best for our soul's growth. To go against that choice is to reject the very purpose for our existence in the physical.

When a soul has experienced a recent lifetime as a particular gender, it may choose the opposite gender in order to find balance. That may lead to a sense of being in the wrong body. The fact is that the soul has chosen this.

Sexuality is all about energy and balancing. The current obsession with homosexuality and trans gender is another example of man's attempt to resolve spiritual issues by trying to control the physical. This is a result of the darkside trying to prevent us from connecting with spirit.

Sexuality combined with love is spiritually uplifting and energizing while soulless lustful sex destroys the spirit.
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The cause does not matter, and all people should not concern themselves with it.

Bottom line is, DON'T indulge in it.

Same for witchcraft and necromancy. It's not that it's a bunch of hooey, because it's not. It works and is very powerful.

Bottom line is, DON'T indulge in it.

It goes back to the tree of life (knowledge of good and evil).

It's about following the rules.

DON'T indulge in it.

WE ALL HAVE OUR COMPULSIONS TO DO OUR 'THING' THAT IS AGAINST THE RULES, NO MATTER THAT THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE COMPULSION IS GENETICS, CHOICE, MY FATHER NEVER LOVED ME, ETC.

BOTTOM LINE IS: DON'T INDULGE IN IT.
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It's a choice.
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Maybe it's somewhat in their genes, as far as attraction to the same sex goes, but......they do have a choice as to how to handle it. Nothing is forcing them to act on the urges, they don't have to just accept it as who they are. In fact there have been those who had same sex attractions, fought and overcame them, and married someone of the opposite sex and had a happy family with them. So it's not like you're stuck gay or lesbian. Perception is key here, if you don't think you can be anything else then you won't be.
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Oh really? Then from this point forward to prove to yourself you are right (I say you are wrong)you shall never again masturbate. If you are right about not giving in to homo urges then you prove it by never again giving in to an urge to masturbate. Should be easy right? This is true only for men if you are a women this is not a valid test.

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I know people within the gay community that I used to go to high school with. I am also a believer in Yeshua. I can tell you from their own statements that it is their personal choice to be gay. Some of them stated even as far as to show that their choice was an act of rebellion, in so many words, either against their "Christian" parents etc.

I do not hate them, nor condemn them because I believe in Yeshua, but covet them for Christ and pray they turn from their ways.
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I would say choice but with the expansive nature of homosexuality I definitely think side affects of soy products have a part in homosexuality, there is soybean something or other in everything we eat and you can't get away from it. As the FDA/Government should regulate the use of soy as a drug since it mimincs estrogen it has adverse affects on the bodys biochemical system which would and should be considered and a drug as if anyone in government actually knows how to their job without allowing themselves to be bought off, lobbied or owned. By Monsanto in this particular case. So partly the government inaction on the regulation of soy products definitely is a factor in homosexuality.

And like I said who actually expects the overpaid pinheads in government to actually do their jobs.
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Maybe it's somewhat in their genes, as far as attraction to the same sex goes, but......they do have a choice as to how to handle it. Nothing is forcing them to act on the urges, they don't have to just accept it as who they are. In fact there have been those who had same sex attractions, fought and overcame them, and married someone of the opposite sex and had a happy family with them. So it's not like you're stuck gay or lesbian. Perception is key here, if you don't think you can be anything else then you won't be.


Oh really? Then from this point forward to prove to yourself you are right (I say you are wrong)you shall never again masturbate. If you are right about not giving in to homo urges then you prove it by never again giving in to an urge to masturbate. Should be easy right? This is true only for men if you are a women this is not a valid test.

5a. 5a. 5a. 5a. 5a. 5a. 5a
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Oh I never said it's easy to overcome something like that (masturbation same thing), but it's not something that's impossible to beat either.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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It is a maladjusted dysfunction and emotional difficulty and is the fairly common result of childhood abuse and/or neglect.
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It is NOT a choice.

And, as far as the "bible" goes:

the "bible" stories where ORAL tradition for AGES, before being written down, being passed from people to people, and we all know how stories change as they get told over time.

the "bible" stories are part celestial myth about the "heavenly kingdom" of God, and its influence "on earth".

"moses" was skiled in all the ways of the EGYPTIANS, therefore:

in the sodom and gomorrah MYTH, the 2 male messengers who "came down from heaven" represent the constellation of GEMINI, which was "2 men holding hands". the "house" of Lot is the "house" of GEMINI. the "doorway" to Lot's "house" is the eastern horizon or "eastern gate" to the "heavenly kingdom" of God. the "bright light" in the "doorway" is the SUN coming up over the eastern horizon on the vernal equinox. the "bright light" blinds you and prevents you from seeing the "2 male messengers". at the end of the age of GEMINI, the people were to supposed "to know" the "2 male messengers" who "came down from heaven" anymore. and they were not supposed to "look back" to the old AGE.
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the "golden calf" and the "ram" of the "old testament" MYTHS represent the AGES of TAURUS and ARIES, respectively.

"jesus" and john "the baptizer" of the "new testament" MYTHS represent the AGES of PISCES and AQUARIUS, respectively.

"jesus" is the PISCEAN SUN.
"the baptizer" is the AQUARIAN SUN.

now, from month to month, "the baptizer" comes over the horizon BEFORE the "sign of the fish", but from AGE to AGE the PISCEAN SUN should have prepapred the way for the AQUARIAN SUN.

"Will the CIRCLE be UN"broken", on earth?
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I think the whole issue should be put in the past.

It's 2008, learn to live with it. Genetic or choice, you're not gay so shut the fuck up.
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Maybe the REAL problem is your Bible.
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The problem is cafeteria Christians. Our's is not to judge.
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Maybe the REAL problem is your Bible.

The problem is cafeteria Christians. Our's is not to judge.
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Have you really been so brainwashed to think God's purpose for us is that we NOT distinguish between right and wrong, good and evil?
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It is my belief that some people 'remember' something of their past life when they might have been the opposite sex.

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