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I have read some Sitchin. I like to think our Bible is a hand me down from the Sumerians, probably from the Egyptains before that (The Egyptian Book of the Dead...).

I like to think the Sumerians had some cool and unigue things about thier gods:

They had a numbering system for their gods. The higher the number the higher the god, a hierarchy.

Their highest gods were the planets in our solar system. Atleast I know I read that somewhere with Sitchin; is it true? Now all I can find is the Annunaki. I do not think the Annunaki were the planets in our solar system. They hailed from PX; more like an advanced human species than gods.

You see, I have told people that a cool thing about the Sumerians is that their highest gods were the planets in our solar system. Meaning, each planet has its own consciousness, and is a god. I think I read about that when SDitchin described how the planets got together to see what to do about Tiamat. Tiamat was thinking she was the greatest god; so the other planets ganged up on her. They did this by calling another planetoid to destroy Tiamat. This new planetoid became PX.

You see, I have just realized that I do not remember ever reading what the names of the god-consciousness' of the other planets are. And further, if each planet has its own conciousness, did the Sumerians have a single name that was the consciousness of Earth?
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I even came up with I think my own interpretation:

You see, this numbering system the Sumerians used for their gods included the planets of our solar system. You see, the Sumerians had many, many gods, but the main ones were the planets, and they had the highest numbers. I think it was the number 60 that stood for a planet.

I talk about this because once someone accused me of being 666. I replied; "Sure, I am 666, the power of god" (If you give a human the power of god, it may turn out rather Beastly) This was in reference to the Sumerians.

You see, in The Cosmic Code, Sitchin deciphered something along this line of thinking: 600 is the number for the whole universe, 60 is the number for the head of a solar system, 6 is the head of a planet within a given solar system. It was something like that, were then 666 would be the head of not just the planet the person resides on, but of that particular solarsystem, and the universe its in.
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I wonder becuase I got this idea about what it would be to have a representation of the one god, above all others, incarnating, or manifesting.

At first I was asking myself, well, if Jesus was a manifestation of the god, what was this god god of? Was this god a respresentation of the consciousness of Earth? Was it the god of this solar system? Was it a representation of the god of this universe?

All my life I have been wondering along these lines.

Then I read about the Sumerians. Supposedly they not only knew about the other planets in our solar system, but they attributed to these planets an individual consciousness. That was like a vindication for me. That would mean Earth has its own consciousness, right?
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I mean, if Jesus is god, god of what? We have evidence, both from mathematics and observational, EG the red shift, of a big bang. We may now know how this universe started...

So, if this Jesus was god, above all others, then he must have been some kind of representation of the universe. I formulated an idea behind that...
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Hi dear Jodido,

Much of what you've said and feel resonates within me.
I felt I had to post so that people don't think you talking to yourself :)
Thankyou for sharing your thoughts and feelings

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darkness for it shows me the stars. (Og Mandino)
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false gods
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Hi dear Jodido,

Much of what you've said and feel resonates within me.
I felt I had to post so that people don't think you talking to yourself :)
Thankyou for sharing your thoughts and feelings

BARAKA BASHAD
 Quoting: acolyte

Thank you :)
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hmmm, well their gods do no exist anymore. Mine does, the Only, The Creator
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This thread is interesting.

I find God to be the Sun.

I find every individual to be a God, a star, a Sun.

I find the planets in our solar system, created by the Father Sun to be temples for other Gods.

Many people suggest that Horus' temple is Mars.

I suspect that Christ's temple is Venus.

I don't think Jesus is the one that we refer to as Christ. He may be the Lamb but not the son of God.

The moon seems to have mystical powers, known as Thoth from Egypt.

I suspect that Israel is Isis is Sirius. I also heard that

Israel is a combination of Isis (Sirius), Ra (Sun), and el (Saturn).
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False gods? Hey, I was not there; I can fully relate that Jesus was not the one. But, does not the whole concept of a manifestation of the one god, above all others, intrigue you? Jesus may have been a prelude....

With my idea includes the quantum physics question; is it a wave or a particle (reality that is), and what happens to a white source when put through a rainbow. I mean, before the big bang was a white light source, right?

Then, along comes the expansionary Earth. Check out this video:
[link to www.youtube.com]

Lets suppose that, even if Jesus was not "it", we have, manifesting on Earth, the one god, above all others. Above all other what? Above all other gods on Earth? In this solar system? If ya really want this god to be above all others, it has to be a representation of the consciousness that created this universe.

And now we see that not only the universe has been expanding, but so has Earth.

If we do have this consciousness manifesting on Earth, what does that make Earth?

Ya know, evidence and common snense dictates that we are not the only inhabited world in this universe. So, does this consciousness, the one that created this universe, manifest on all such Earth type planets at some time, like in that planet's evolution? Or, is it only this Earth?

The bible, or christain lore, is big on the idea that Jesus was god's only begotten son. That would maybe hint that it is only Earth, though there must be many habitable worlds out there...
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I have read some Sitchin. I like to think our Bible is a hand me down from the Sumerians, probably from the Egyptains before that (The Egyptian Book of the Dead...).

I like to think the Sumerians had some cool and unigue things about thier gods:

They had a numbering system for their gods. The higher the number the higher the god, a hierarchy.

Their highest gods were the planets in our solar system. Atleast I know I read that somewhere with Sitchin; is it true? Now all I can find is the Annunaki. I do not think the Annunaki were the planets in our solar system. They hailed from PX; more like an advanced human species than gods.

You see, I have told people that a cool thing about the Sumerians is that their highest gods were the planets in our solar system. Meaning, each planet has its own consciousness, and is a god. I think I read about that when SDitchin described how the planets got together to see what to do about Tiamat. Tiamat was thinking she was the greatest god; so the other planets ganged up on her. They did this by calling another planetoid to destroy Tiamat. This new planetoid became PX.

You see, I have just realized that I do not remember ever reading what the names of the god-consciousness' of the other planets are. And further, if each planet has its own conciousness, did the Sumerians have a single name that was the consciousness of Earth?
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weren't "the Sumerians " first ?, i do belive "Egypt"
came later.
so ya i read along time ago in some book that most
of the storys in the book came , from
oral history of "the sumerians", wich at some point got written down.
but sence most of that stuff is so old,
way older then , "new " , churchs of today
understand it to be, that i find it hard to mean anything.
as history or to study maybe,
most of the wars going on today have to do with later writting , of the many books to come out of the
orignal sumerians.
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I have read some Sitchin. I like to think our Bible is a hand me down from the Sumerians, probably from the Egyptains before that (The Egyptian Book of the Dead...).

I like to think the Sumerians had some cool and unigue things about thier gods:

They had a numbering system for their gods. The higher the number the higher the god, a hierarchy.

Their highest gods were the planets in our solar system. Atleast I know I read that somewhere with Sitchin; is it true? Now all I can find is the Annunaki. I do not think the Annunaki were the planets in our solar system. They hailed from PX; more like an advanced human species than gods.

You see, I have told people that a cool thing about the Sumerians is that their highest gods were the planets in our solar system. Meaning, each planet has its own consciousness, and is a god. I think I read about that when SDitchin described how the planets got together to see what to do about Tiamat. Tiamat was thinking she was the greatest god; so the other planets ganged up on her. They did this by calling another planetoid to destroy Tiamat. This new planetoid became PX.

You see, I have just realized that I do not remember ever reading what the names of the god-consciousness' of the other planets are. And further, if each planet has its own conciousness, did the Sumerians have a single name that was the consciousness of Earth?



weren't "the Sumerians " first ?, i do belive "Egypt"
came later.
so ya i read along time ago in some book that most
of the storys in the book came , from
oral history of "the sumerians", wich at some point got written down.
but sence most of that stuff is so old,
way older then , "new " , churchs of today
understand it to be, that i find it hard to mean anything.
as history or to study maybe,
most of the wars going on today have to do with later writting , of the many books to come out of the
orignal sumerians.
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Well, how old is the Sumerian civilization? That is the easy guess; around 4000B.C. When did the Egyptian one start? Tradition says around 3000 B.C.

But, do you know that geologists have dated the great sphinx to be on the order of 10,000 years old? Also, it has been shown, in terms of archeological evidence, that the three great pyramids are just as old....

I postulate the Egyptian one was way earlier...
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HEY OP, read here :

[link to www.zeitlin.net]


Not only Sitchin wrote about the Sumerians !
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My idea is that a manifestation of the one god, is a manifestation of the particle, from the wave.

I am saying that the rest of humanity is the wave, Jesus (for lack of a better target) would be the particle.

And usually this particle would be the particle manifestation of the consciousness of the planet...
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HEY OP, read here :

[link to www.zeitlin.net]


Not only Sitchin wrote about the Sumerians !
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Thank you; will looksee :)
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[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com] chuckle
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U are close. Yes the Anunnaki were assigned numbers.

Anu 60
Enlil 50
Enki 40

Etc the lower numbered one changed from time to time. It is written in the table of destinies which Lord Enlil keeps.

The story you are talking about is covered in Sitchin work "The Lost Book of Enki."

The story of Timat is about the fight between the Enlilites and the Enkities with regards to who's son would be the ruler in the age of the ram. Timat was trying to change it number and elevate a moon to a planet which would assign it a number much like Enki did with Marduk

Before Egypt Sumer was a very advanced civilization and the Annunaki were here for thousands and thousands of years.

Here is a stater video from someone on youtube which may be of assistance.


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U are close. Yes the Anunnaki were assigned numbers.

Anu 60
Enlil 50
Enki 40

Etc the lower numbered one changed from time to time. It is written in the table of destinies which Lord Enlil keeps.

The story you are talking about is covered in Sitchin work "The Lost Book of Enki."

The story of Timat is about the fight between the Enlilites and the Enkities with regards to who's son would be the ruler in the age of the ram. Timat was trying to change it number and elevate a moon to a planet which would assign it a number much like Enki did with Marduk

Before Egypt Sumer was a very advanced civilization and the Annunaki were here for thousands and thousands of years.

Here is a stater video from someone on youtube which may be of assistance.


 Quoting: Enlilson


That vid was amazing. I had no idea what was going on, but I loved it.
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U are close. Yes the Anunnaki were assigned numbers.

Anu 60
Enlil 50
Enki 40

Etc the lower numbered one changed from time to time. It is written in the table of destinies which Lord Enlil keeps.

The story you are talking about is covered in Sitchin work "The Lost Book of Enki."

The story of Timat is about the fight between the Enlilites and the Enkities with regards to who's son would be the ruler in the age of the ram. Timat was trying to change it number and elevate a moon to a planet which would assign it a number much like Enki did with Marduk

Before Egypt Sumer was a very advanced civilization and the Annunaki were here for thousands and thousands of years.

Here is a stater video from someone on youtube which may be of assistance.


 Quoting: Enlilson

Have not watched the video. What you say contradicts what Sitchin said previously. He had said Tiamat was a planet that was destroyed by incoming Nibiru. Nibiru was a planet called in by the other planets in our solar system to destroy Tiamat. The remains of Tiamat is the asteroid belt, and Earth. The Annunaki are beings that lived on Nibiru, including Enki, Enlil, and Anu. You see, Nibiru, the planet, came back to where Tiamat was every 3600 years; it had started an orbiting cycle around and through our solar system. The beings would come to Earth every time Nibiru passed by, every 3600 years. They left a contingent to live on Earth. The rulers in this contingent included Enlil and Enki. Furthermore, the caveman like beings on Earth were genetically manipulated by the Annunaki, using Anu as a surrogate mother. Supposedly the Annunaki did this to use Man as slaves.

That is the story, my friend.
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Heh, just watched the video; excuse my French, but it ain't shit. If ya want the story, read the first time it was put down in our time; Sitchin's book; The 12th Planet. It was in that book that Sitchin guessed that the last time Nibiru came into our solar system (it has an eliptical orbit) was when the Jewish Exodus happened, circa 1600 B.C. (and it caused the events of the Exodus). That would mean the next time it is due to return is now.

It was also in that book that Sitchin described how the Sumerian's knew of the planets in our solar system, and made them into gods. But, today, having read that book in the year 2000, I cannot recal Sitchin ever mentioning names the Sumerians gave to the planets; or names to the gods that represented them. All I can now remember is Sitchin then talking about the names of the Annunaki, a race of beings that hailed from Nibiru.

See, this makes me wonder if I am the one that thinks the Sumerian's thought the planets were gods, or individual consciousness' unto themselves. But no; I swear Sitchin said the Sumerians thought this way in the story of the planets getting together to destroy Tiamat.
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Lets get back to Earth being some kind of third experiment. Supposedly thats how the aliens who are looking at us from outer space, see it. What is this experiment? What are they trying to accomplish?

If fit into the context of my idea, the attempt is to create a planet where a microcosm of the universe manifests. That may entail more than just a solitary being, like a Jesus. The entire planet may be this microcosm.

The white light, and the resultant rainbow. What is a rainbow but a multitude of colors; a white light is but one color, white. Thats what we had before the big bang, the one color white. What is god but one. Well, the one god above all others; monotheism.

This white light then expanded, the big bang, and the resultant universe is the rainbow; the components of the white light. Now lets veiw our solar system in that context. Let us say that every star is like a miniature white light; any planets orbiting the sun its universe, or body, or aura.

Ya know, before the planets were planets, they were disks. View the area around our sun, the space where the planets orbit the sun, the sun's rainbow. Every color of the rainbow, or section of it, represents an aspect of the aura of the sun, or its body. Lets us say that before planets were condensced these sections were in the form of waves. Now we see the particle, the planets, in these sections.

Going out other way; what if one were trying to manifest a microsm of the universe, say in a human being. If that happen(s, ed), then this planet, and outward from there this solar system, and this sun, would be like divine representations also.

And I think I see how that is. For example, there is whats called a veil of ignorance. Is that related to our asteroid belt; meaning the planets on the inside of it are in a different place than the ones on the outside. Maybe our asteroid belt is representative of the universe?

A good way to relate to what I am saying is to hypothesis the "Consciousness Theory of the Universe"...
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dear Jojido,

during my scans of this site over the years I reccomend you look up threads from the noble "Ningishiddza" who used to post here, but also on Armageddon online and under the monicker "Why Not?" on Ouroborous forum.

you should find his knowledge extensive and he may give you some direction for your reading.

I did and am still most intrigued in the subject although Sithin himself is still debatable...

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dear Jojido,

during my scans of this site over the years I reccomend you look up threads from the noble "Ningishiddza" who used to post here, but also on Armageddon online and under the monicker "Why Not?" on Ouroborous forum.

you should find his knowledge extensive and he may give you some direction for your reading.

I did and am still most intrigued in the subject although Sithin himself is still debatable...

theejames
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Well, you see, I am kinda through with reading or searching or seeking. I have found :)
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Under stand that when Marduk changed his number to 50 he like Tiamat changed their number of destiny. So the history you are reading is that provided by the Enkites.

As for Sitichn I have read everyone of his books and continue to see information from other books as well. I clearly come from another point of view and if like Sitichn says they come back you can pick who's view of history you want to accept Enlil's or Enki's.
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I would also not go about calling Anu a surrogate mother, but again that is just me. As for the history of this place it is interesting that a city Dolni Vestonice in the Czechlivian has been unearthed with it 26,000 year old factory that made small images of Venus. Look for the grooveware people some say these folks are those that traveled to sumeria.
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The history of this planet....

It does not matter to me becuase I found out what this planet IS.

It is the heart planet of this solar system, and looks like it is the heart planet of this universe.

About Marduk. It is interesting to me that Islam uses the same symbol as Marduk, the crescent moon. Islam vs. christianity....

I think people do not see Jesus as being the representation of the one god. One big reason is that he died; if he was all that he should not have died....

But see it this way. The white light, put through a prism, and the resultant rainbow. It is the particle vs. the wave effect. The white light, the one, is one color, white; it is the particle. The rainbow is many, lots of colors. The rainbow is all the components of the white light, in diffusion. Notice there are no color bands of white in a rainbow.

Jesus was a white color band. That is why he died. Ya know, re-incarnation was taken out of the Bible in the Fifth Ecunemical Council in 551 A.D. The second coming is the soul that was Jesus reincarnated. Some groups, namely the Jews, say that Jesus was not the real Messiah. Thats because, in the second coming, it is the will of god. But, the second coming is the same soul that was Jesus.

When it is deemed ready, the second coming person goes through his "shift." It could be bad; thats what all the doomsday scenarios are about. Its also dramatized by the movie The Wall. This shift is a clearing. The second coming person's chakras are energized then cleared. Thats what can produce the doomsday stuff.

I am the only one that will tell you this.

Oh, BTW, nothing happened :)
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I even came up with I think my own interpretation:

You see, this numbering system the Sumerians used for their gods included the planets of our solar system. You see, the Sumerians had many, many gods, but the main ones were the planets, and they had the highest numbers. I think it was the number 60 that stood for a planet.

I talk about this because once someone accused me of being 666. I replied; "Sure, I am 666, the power of god" (If you give a human the power of god, it may turn out rather Beastly) This was in reference to the Sumerians.

You see, in The Cosmic Code, Sitchin deciphered something along this line of thinking: 600 is the number for the whole universe, 60 is the number for the head of a solar system, 6 is the head of a planet within a given solar system. It was something like that, were then 666 would be the head of not just the planet the person resides on, but of that particular solarsystem, and the universe its in.
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Sumer had a numbering system in base 60 rather than our modern base 10.
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I even came up with I think my own interpretation:

You see, this numbering system the Sumerians used for their gods included the planets of our solar system. You see, the Sumerians had many, many gods, but the main ones were the planets, and they had the highest numbers. I think it was the number 60 that stood for a planet.

I talk about this because once someone accused me of being 666. I replied; "Sure, I am 666, the power of god" (If you give a human the power of god, it may turn out rather Beastly) This was in reference to the Sumerians.

You see, in The Cosmic Code, Sitchin deciphered something along this line of thinking: 600 is the number for the whole universe, 60 is the number for the head of a solar system, 6 is the head of a planet within a given solar system. It was something like that, were then 666 would be the head of not just the planet the person resides on, but of that particular solarsystem, and the universe its in.


Sumer had a numbering system in base 60 rather than our modern base 10.
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Right. And it is from the Sumerians that we get a circle divided into 360 degrees, a gross of 12 units, 24 hours in a day, 60 mintues in an hour; etc.
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What I don't get is this short Febuary. I mean we have like 7 out of 12 months that have 31 days. Why not just make two of them 30 days and make Feb. 30 days. Then leap year is when Feb. is 31 days instead of 30.

Must be the big red tape head, sigh.

Maybe the politically correct head?

Well, as long as we getting some :)
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Well..I learned that in the ancient numerical system of Gematria.. the number 666 symbol is that of the sun.
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what does the sumerian gods do??

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