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Why Americans Are So Stupid ?

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Mohammed
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3/2/2008 8:01 PM
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Why Americans Are So Stupid ?
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1. Hollywood.
No, it's not a nefarious Hollywood plot. The vast majority of popular movies and television shows are either set in the US or some bizarre fantasy world. American viewers rarely see other cultures or other countries. Meanwhile, the rest of the world gobbles up this Hollywood crap. The result? People in the rest of the world think they know more about the US than the average American knows about, say, Switzerland. For the most part they're right, although they do form rather weird misconceptions about the US.
2. Lazy parents.
I come from a family of voracious readers, and if you've read this far you probably did too. I've always loved to read. I've also always loved maps, and my parents encouraged this. Kids can easily discover the pleasures of learning about the rest of the world, but too many parents don't give a crap. Their kids are in day care all day, and when they come home Mom is content to plop their butts in front of the television, placated on a diet of Nintendo and bad Korean animation. (Not to pick on Mom, because she works hard. Mom and Dad are usually divorced at this point, if they were ever married in the first place, and Dad is out trolling the bars.)

I am convinced that this is the primary reason why so many of our kids are illiterate and/or oblivious to the world around them. Parents, get off your lazy asses and act as good role models.
3. Nonsense in our schools.
Schools have become warehouses for children, with hassled, underpaid teachers having to spend more time dealing with bureaucratic bullsh**, stupid educational theories (i.e., the Open Classroom concept and "self-esteem"), and disciplinary action than actual teaching. It doesn't help that so many parents don't give a hoot once their kid's in school - the school's simply now a free combination day care/restaurant/medical dispensary/discipline center for them to drop their kids off. Public education is a big suckhole that devours more of our tax dollars each year, so where the hell does our tax money go? It sure doesn't go to the teachers.
4. Self-Gratification
So many American kids get no direction in life other than self-gratification. "If it feels good, do it!" seems to be their motto, and since their parents live that way why should they be any different? I've never understood parents allowing their high school-age children to go on "spring break". Spring break is an excuse for children to get drunk without any supervision. It's natural for kids to want to do that. What's NOT natural is that so many parents think it's OK.
5.
Perhaps Americans aren't that stupid.
The co-worker I mentioned above is highly skilled at what he does, working on sophisticated electronics. He does it well. He just doesn't know much about geography. Since the US is an enormous country compared to individual European countries, Americans haven't had to be as "international" as the residents of the many small European countries. While this is changing with the expansion of global trade, most Americans still only deal with other Americans in the course of their everyday lives, as opposed to Europeans who regularly deal with neighboring countries that have different cultures.

It all boils down to the fact that knowledge and intelligence are two different issues. Rote memorization of world capitals does not equate intelligence.

I do find it interesting that Europeans have such strong opinions on this, considering that there are many more pressing issues to be concerned about. Perhaps the steady European refrain of "Americans are stupid" is a reflection of their own deep-rooted insecurity. You know -- an inferiority complex.

It is also interesting to note that Europeans are as shit-stupid as Americans. (I get lots of hate letters from EuroTrash for pointing this fact out.)

For instance, many French believe that the US government flew a 757 into the Pentagon on September 11. This belief is incredibly stupid, yet a shockingly large percentage of the French find it perfectly reasonable. It is ironic that a society so opinionated about Americans believes something so absurd.

The Germans are stupid as well. For instance, the Mayor of Berlin does not know when World War II started. According to a study published by Die Welt, more than half of all Germans under 24 do not know what the Holocaust was.

Same with the British. According to a recent poll, "Nearly Half of Britons Are Unaware of Auschwitz." My theory is these are Guardian readers.


So what are the answers, Mr. Smart Guy?
I don't know. I do know that I'm raising my kid to appreciate and enjoy geography, science and history. It's not difficult to do.
malu Subscriber
User ID: 321190
3/2/2008 8:02 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

we is not stupid
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
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Lady of Loo
User ID: 384344
3/2/2008 8:04 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

I partialy agree.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
~ Dr. Seuss
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384254 (OP)
3/2/2008 8:08 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

I partialy agree.
 Quoting: -=JezaBella=-

i dont like smoking too
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384254 (OP)
3/2/2008 8:08 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

we is not stupid
 Quoting: malu

lol
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 337786
3/2/2008 8:08 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

I is not stupid either!
malu Subscriber
User ID: 321190
3/2/2008 8:10 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

I is not stupid either!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 337786


oh yes you is!

your egnorance is oblivious to everyone
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
SubarcticBeef Subscriber
Two Legged Wrecking Machine
User ID: 221410
3/2/2008 8:11 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

The really stupid people are the ones that think Americans are stupid. That makes them COMPLETLY STUPID. You stupid bastard!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 337786
3/2/2008 8:11 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

LOL!
LS
User ID: 253961
3/2/2008 8:12 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

me likey cake
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 312060
3/2/2008 8:12 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

I is not stupid either!


oh yes you is!

your egnorance is oblivious to everyone
 Quoting: malu

iamwith
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 349759
3/2/2008 8:13 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

Aoccdrnig to rseerach at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?
malu Subscriber
User ID: 321190
3/2/2008 8:13 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

me likey cake
 Quoting: LS



oh,, and you want to eat it too i suppose??
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
malu Subscriber
User ID: 321190
3/2/2008 8:15 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

Aoccdrnig to rseerach at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349759



taht is prue eivl
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
LS
User ID: 253961
3/2/2008 8:16 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

me likey cake



oh,, and you want to eat it too i suppose??
 Quoting: malu

chuckle
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3/2/2008 8:16 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

People are stupid all over the world. Has the OP never
seen a Bollywood production?

Just look what they did to "Thriller"


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 376212
3/2/2008 8:18 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

I'z gots mi ejukayshun. N I'z dun gud n skul. I'z gots my Dgre n ejukayshun N teech litl kidz.
Solar Guy
User ID: 374996
3/2/2008 8:21 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

Aoccdrnig to rseerach at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349759

Yes vrey ture! It is qiute amzanig idneed.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384110
3/2/2008 8:30 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

The school district i went to raised taxes at a rate higher than inflation for 6 years straight,while at the same time cutting back on the students.The money went to teachers and administration.They cut sports and made us pay for books .If i wanted to make something in wood shop i had to pay.If i wanted to join the football team i had to pay.If i wanted to learn a musical instrument i had to pay.My parents had 10 kids and we were poor.The poor get screwed right from the start.
malu Subscriber
User ID: 321190
3/2/2008 8:33 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

The school district i went to raised taxes at a rate higher than inflation for 6 years straight,while at the same time cutting back on the students.The money went to teachers and administration.They cut sports and made us pay for books .If i wanted to make something in wood shop i had to pay.If i wanted to join the football team i had to pay.If i wanted to learn a musical instrument i had to pay.My parents had 10 kids and we were poor.The poor get screwed right from the start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 384110



they taught you well then!

better to learn it sooner than later
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
-=JezaBella=- Subscriber
Lady of Loo
User ID: 384344
3/2/2008 8:33 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

I partialy agree.

i dont like smoking too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 384254



1. OP..it's not lit

2. The part of me that does not agree realizes the dumb are not geographicly challenged ..they seem to be all over the world.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
~ Dr. Seuss
Rota
User ID: 384345
3/2/2008 8:35 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

For instance, many French believe that the US government flew a 757 into the Pentagon on September 11. This belief is incredibly stupid, yet a shockingly large percentage of the French find it perfectly reasonable. It is ironic that a society so opinionated about Americans believes something so absurd.
 Quoting: Mohammed 384254

Can you prove beyond a shadow of doubt that the government didn't fly a plane into the pentagon? No. Neither can any prove they did.

So who is the stupid one here? Seems to me its the person who makes the claim of either one without haveing a shred of evidence to back it up.

The Germans are stupid as well. For instance, the Mayor of Berlin does not know when World War II started. According to a study published by Die Welt, more than half of all Germans under 24 do not know what the Holocaust was.
 Quoting: Mohammed 384254

Nothing wrong with not knowing what the holocaust was since it was hyped into something that doesn't resemble what the historical facts say it was.

I don't know. I do know that I'm raising my kid to appreciate and enjoy geography, science and history. It's not difficult to do.
 Quoting: Mohammed 384254

Maybe its better for your kids to be ignorant of history than to read re-written garbage about it.

.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384288
3/2/2008 8:36 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

1. Hollywood.
No, it's not a nefarious Hollywood plot. The vast majority of popular movies and television shows are either set in the US or some bizarre fantasy world. American viewers rarely see other cultures or other countries. Meanwhile, the rest of the world gobbles up this Hollywood crap. The result? People in the rest of the world think they know more about the US than the average American knows about, say, Switzerland. For the most part they're right, although they do form rather weird misconceptions about the US.
2. Lazy parents.
I come from a family of voracious readers, and if you've read this far you probably did too. I've always loved to read. I've also always loved maps, and my parents encouraged this. Kids can easily discover the pleasures of learning about the rest of the world, but too many parents don't give a crap. Their kids are in day care all day, and when they come home Mom is content to plop their butts in front of the television, placated on a diet of Nintendo and bad Korean animation. (Not to pick on Mom, because she works hard. Mom and Dad are usually divorced at this point, if they were ever married in the first place, and Dad is out trolling the bars.)

I am convinced that this is the primary reason why so many of our kids are illiterate and/or oblivious to the world around them. Parents, get off your lazy asses and act as good role models.
3. Nonsense in our schools.
Schools have become warehouses for children, with hassled, underpaid teachers having to spend more time dealing with bureaucratic bullsh**, stupid educational theories (i.e., the Open Classroom concept and "self-esteem"), and disciplinary action than actual teaching. It doesn't help that so many parents don't give a hoot once their kid's in school - the school's simply now a free combination day care/restaurant/medical dispensary/discipline center for them to drop their kids off. Public education is a big suckhole that devours more of our tax dollars each year, so where the hell does our tax money go? It sure doesn't go to the teachers.
4. Self-Gratification
So many American kids get no direction in life other than self-gratification. "If it feels good, do it!" seems to be their motto, and since their parents live that way why should they be any different? I've never understood parents allowing their high school-age children to go on "spring break". Spring break is an excuse for children to get drunk without any supervision. It's natural for kids to want to do that. What's NOT natural is that so many parents think it's OK.
5.
Perhaps Americans aren't that stupid.
The co-worker I mentioned above is highly skilled at what he does, working on sophisticated electronics. He does it well. He just doesn't know much about geography. Since the US is an enormous country compared to individual European countries, Americans haven't had to be as "international" as the residents of the many small European countries. While this is changing with the expansion of global trade, most Americans still only deal with other Americans in the course of their everyday lives, as opposed to Europeans who regularly deal with neighboring countries that have different cultures.

It all boils down to the fact that knowledge and intelligence are two different issues. Rote memorization of world capitals does not equate intelligence.

I do find it interesting that Europeans have such strong opinions on this, considering that there are many more pressing issues to be concerned about. Perhaps the steady European refrain of "Americans are stupid" is a reflection of their own deep-rooted insecurity. You know -- an inferiority complex.

It is also interesting to note that Europeans are as shit-stupid as Americans. (I get lots of hate letters from EuroTrash for pointing this fact out.)

For instance, many French believe that the US government flew a 757 into the Pentagon on September 11. This belief is incredibly stupid, yet a shockingly large percentage of the French find it perfectly reasonable. It is ironic that a society so opinionated about Americans believes something so absurd.

The Germans are stupid as well. For instance, the Mayor of Berlin does not know when World War II started. According to a study published by Die Welt, more than half of all Germans under 24 do not know what the Holocaust was.

Same with the British. According to a recent poll, "Nearly Half of Britons Are Unaware of Auschwitz." My theory is these are Guardian readers.


So what are the answers, Mr. Smart Guy?
I don't know. I do know that I'm raising my kid to appreciate and enjoy geography, science and history. It's not difficult to do.
 Quoting: Mohammed 384254



OK. I have officially had IT with you, and every other fucking Muslim badmouthing the USA and the "west". If it's so bad here son, LEAVE. Don't let your thobe get snagged by Lady Liberty's crown on your way out.

Yes. The things you mentioned are BAD. We all can concur. But what you are doing is extolling islam in a very subversive way if people (like I did) track back your posts and see what the hell your mantra is here. You have a major issue with the west buddy (like all Muslims) and I suggest you either check your tude, or get gone. Some of us like it here. Some women enjoy being able to drive and have fulfilling careers and not having to be OCD about their clothing because the Hijab Gestapo could possibly beat them (or worse) if they showed some hair or and ankle. But let you tell it, thie shit doesn't ever happen in places like Saudi and Iran and Islam has nothing to do with it (yeah right mate).

Divorced? There is a whole string of surahs about divorce in the koran!!! Don't throw rocks in a glass house buddy. Not to mention the innumerable surahs about sex slave women and their maintenance, killing of jews and magians, killing of Christians and pagans, instructions on slaughter methods, and can we forget about the sunnah? The glorious life of your lecherous prophet who is a subprime example of humanity?? But, you have the nerve to sit here and try and pitch a rant about the west...likely while drawing welfare or other benefit. Muslims are classic hypocrites.

You talk about Britons denying Auschwitz, what about the leigons of UK Muslims who DENY the whole holocaust and are causing entire lesson plans to be revised due to sensitivities in their Muslim students who have "been taught other beliefs at home"?? But if it supports any weak diatribe a Muslim is spewing at the moment against the west, any article will do, eh Mohammed?

I'll let you get back to raiding Khaibar and drinking Camel piss now. Kiss the vagina stone for me next time you go to Hajj, and tell the Sacred Twat I said "What's up?".
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 376212
3/2/2008 8:39 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

The school district i went to raised taxes at a rate higher than inflation for 6 years straight,while at the same time cutting back on the students.The money went to teachers and administration.They cut sports and made us pay for books .If i wanted to make something in wood shop i had to pay.If i wanted to join the football team i had to pay.If i wanted to learn a musical instrument i had to pay.My parents had 10 kids and we were poor.The poor get screwed right from the start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 384110


What state do you live in?????

I've been out of school for 20+ years and the district still charges for all you mentioned. I even remember my total for my senior year...$258

Illinois here,by the way...
anonymous coward
User ID: 367477
3/2/2008 8:42 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

It didn't used to be this way....

But after World War II, America became a consumer society, and since then with increasing effectiveness every year, American's have been program to be one thing only a consumer....

To buy what you are sold with out thinking about it, from French Fries to Houses, American's have become consumers only.....and that mens not thinking about what your doing, because that would slow down sales....

Before world war III, American's had skills, most American's now how to can food, grow a garden, build their house or fix it's plumbing, they could fix their car, they valued their families, and they had values...

Now all that has become dominated by "consumer Think"...

this is what American's coporations want to do to the rest of the world, and why the rest of the world objects....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384308
3/2/2008 8:44 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

Op why do you have a question mark at the end of your title? Now that is stupid.
malu Subscriber
User ID: 321190
3/2/2008 8:47 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

Op why do you have a question mark at the end of your title? Now that is stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 384308



he didn't understand what he posted

apparently
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384308
3/2/2008 8:48 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

I see he just edited his title and added the word "so" in there. What an ass.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384110
3/2/2008 8:49 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

The problem with education is that they do not require teachers to be competent and many just do not care.Also classes are too big and they do not spend enough on learning resources.One guy who was a teacher did not even know how to read.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384308
3/2/2008 8:50 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

It still shouldn't have a question mark at the end.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384110
3/2/2008 8:50 PM
Re: Why Americans Are So Stupid ?Quote

OCEANSIDE, Calif. -- John Corcoran graduated from college and taught high school for 17 years without being able to read, write or spell.

Corcoran's life of secrecy started at a young age. He said his teachers moved him up from grade to grade. Often placed in what he calls the "dumb row," the images of his tribulations in the classroom are still vividly clear.

"I can remember when I was eight years old saying my prayers at night saying, 'please, God, tomorrow when it's my turn to read please let me read.' You just pretend that you are invisible and when the teacher says, 'Johnnie read,' you just wait the teacher out because you know the teacher has to go away at some point," said Corcoran.
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