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Why I dislike Stuart Wilde

 
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THOMPSON!


Friends say - PUT YOUR SOUL TO THE KEYS AND BARE ALL, DO IT JUSTICE AND SPEAK UP HERE, OPEN YOUR TRAP AND DIVULGE WHAT IS IN EVERYBODY'S INTEREST.

COME ON THOMPSON, SPEAK, REVEAL IT ALL RIGHT HERE.

DO IT.
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I first read SW in 1995 and loved his work. Finally went to a workshop with him a few years ago and I found some major disconnects. He sent a letter to RC members, yeah I was one for a while, telling us how johann had screwed him over then sent another telling us everything was worked out. He slammed Miler and Justin, some shaman, takes a stab at his former mother-in-law whenever he can. Heloves to bash those who think they are special and but says he has the answer. I think he ha found some truths but he is as full of claridad as he says others are.


Agreed. Went to his seminar in Las Vegas last October based on "instincts" after reading several of his books. Was looking forward to meet him myself (and did)

However,

Needing to fighting several urges to just leave, (based on my BS sensor going-off -big time) detecting master salesman 'working the crowd'. i stuck it out after all, he is entertaining...Nothing more.

Las Vegas was the perfect venue for him. (total delusion in the desert)

His single most obvious talent is not subtle understanding of the 'morph', spirit world or balancing life between the physical and spiritual but telling captivating/pithy stories with his Scottish accent, knowing human frailty/desire and "working the crowd". PERIOD.

Lots of reverse psychology and simple 'hype'. When you press him on it -to get more resolute closure...he slips into another direction. He works the 'ill knock him out of his consensus reality angle...which enables him to go anywhere, do anything at his victims expense (and i mean EXPENSE).

Since then, ive truly wondered if he is the origin of his books or are they the work of one of his students, wife or some other tag-along under his 'spell'.

You dont need ayahuasca, you dont need his morph hype. You dont need Stuart Wilde.

He definitely is the 'trickster'. So the value of a brush with him is getting thrown back on yourself which is where you should-have been before deciding to cut-the-check and go to his seminar. (im sure he'd agree...)
 Quoting: 'ben Stuart Wilded... 331900



Very well put.

I used to enjoy Stuart's writings 20 years ago, but as the 90's closed, and especially after 9/11, either his inner salesman took over, or the drugs and paranoia affected his brain. He became obsessed with ghouls, invisible hostile entities, and began to make broad pronouncements declaring 95% or more of all humans beyond salvation

He can be pretty harsh to those who pay thousands to attend one of his retreats, and is guilty of all the ego and self importance he denounces

Personally, I think he he needed money and decided to tap into and exploit the deep streak of fear/paranoia/luddite/anti-authoritarianism which runs wide and deep in American and to a lesser extent British/Australian Society. It began with Y2K and became a goldmine after 9/11.

But the darkness of his writings for 10 years now, combined with ego, greed and fear mongering, are a real turn off for me.

rant
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get off the aya brother.

enlightening grammar herein lower caps.

hyphen wrong place, you were drunk fool.

you mean tracked.

why the fear from critque or being open?

well, stu said let them all in from reptiles to scumbags to losers and all that is you and i.

i don't know why the fear from critique...? maybe the same from supporters doing the same right here?

i am me. me is i. i is you. you are me. who gives a fuck, good bye.

the products gave way to the riches...

the events came from the published works and did the same..

i don't know if milton was sold to a brother or sister follower or is in the hands of some entity but that place ain't cheap...

you've got to have money to buy stuff like that and travel around the world staying in top star places...

you can say all you want about anon people writing shit here, but, he's not exactly mr. international charity.

if the visions come true or are partly true then he'll be dancing out of here in style you bet..

so, maybe fuck the visions off and get your style.
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Stuie, is that you?

Befuddle them with babble and BS if found out?

No no no, was never filled with ego and self importance...was just humble seeker, lol.

No, not much harm done. Was a form of theatre, and grown adults willingly participated in it

However, the negativity, the god-like pronouncements dismissing most fellow humans as being doomed, cursed beyond hope, grace, salvation or redemption (except oneself and a few of one's slavishly $$$ loyal, male $EUD denominated redeemed followers), the charging for the right to belong to the 'club', with hints that in these grim times joining the club was a matter of survival, not only of the body but one's very soul...never mind the near idolization of one's drug rattled "visions" from the morph, while dismissing visions seen by others,

...all constitute crossing a line

...jmho
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[link to www.satansheaven.com]


[link to www.satansheaven.com]


[link to spellsandmagic.com]



Enjoy and see you on the left hand path brothers and sisters....


Stuart Wilde and the rest didn't work after so many years of heartache and following visions....

No point keeping going as one dies like many die at some point.


God is always facing demons and demons of God likewise.


Long after you are gone, shamelessly in continuum before unto that which begone.
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Ultimately, on the podium of life one will be attacked given variances of energy unto a crowd of anything and everybody.

Wilde taught decency - this truly resonates.

Hellish ways are wracked with guilt, control, addiction until it's all over, for a human in pain...

The agony begets another agony in a vicious hellish cycle.

I do not understand intimate details of metaphysics within the confines of his work...

I do not understand why certain things are the way they've been, complaints and people's views about why, which way, what, who and that.

I do know how ghastly I've become and have been, how at odds I am with my side which loves and knows love - 2 sides of polarity at war.

How things and people have affected me, created darkness and light, shapes of a multi-structure within a collective psyche.

I only hope that I have the awareness to follow what is the way of being of a decent spirit.

In finding his work in the late 90's, most of the later stuff I didn't get or understand, I would've never had stumbled upon his most important and ultimate frontier of teaching.

Wilde taught decency.
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What was just displayed is what's known as sub-types: matriarch and patriarchal religious sub-structures.

They can control and completely dictate the ego to the point where earthy and more aggressive energies are buried, suppressed.

Paranoia, guilt, subservience are general key triggers for these ones.
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Like T, they share and fill their minds with critique over the rest of the world and any non-members, but that is it.

Critique and judge - spend a lifetime watching a mirror of themselves.

Though they don't have the power or energy to truly change others and the world from the unseen.

There's a global A-list of party tricksters - makes good gossip - and that's about it.
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Any Guru that tells you the word Love is tinny and fake sounding, tells you youre farting because ghouls live up your ass and tells you to wash your asshole over a sink everytime you take a shit IS a deranged fuckwit!

Terrance Mckenna is the man to listen to and he wasnt even a guru, listen to the Mushrooms.Take DMT these things make wankers like Stuart Wilde meaningless. And yea dont buy into the survival shit, if its your time to go that isnt the roll of the dice, everything is already predestined. People die every day, that is the end of the world for them. WHats the difference if we all go together? At least we're "going" somewhere new.
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SO TRUE. WELL SAID!!!!!!!!


JUST for the record - another excerpt of Wilde today:


'Hosni Mubarak:

Mubarak of Egypt is another that might go. The Egyptians are quite famous for torture, it is reported that the Americans send prisoners there in secret, to get roughed up or killed. So many of the world’s leaders are just gangsters controlling the ‘hood’ to their benefit. Burlusconi of Italy is close to toppling.

Humans are eternal, so if the rats go back to hell for bit it’s a nice respite for our beloved planet, but, even if evil goes dormant for a Kalki age (1000 years), it will return, then the light will fight its way in again and so on. Over a long enough timeline the world has progressed, so we are on the up and up. Slurp.

(Editor's Note: Since SW wrote this article ten days ago, riots in Egypt have made Mubarak's rule much less secure this prediction may come to pass quite quickly).'




Like Thompson, for a while in politics this was bound to happen. In fact in discussions on politics this was the worry post 911 anyway. It's not a prediction one could attest to within a TEN DAY period. Hahah!

I mean, fuks sake - "Since SW wrote this article ten days ago"??????!!!!!


The arab lands are in revolt... Islam is on the rise, with the rise of the dragon too (go China, we can work things out! hahah sorry, I love change).


Another of his predictions is Californian earthquake to come...... Yep.... Scientists have been predicting more of that for quite a while... I think climatologists have a fair idea of just a little prediction around the globe.... With finance, so do profs of intl. economics...


Do me a favour everybody.... Try to track down Barry Thompson.
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'As tyranny feels the light approaching those people will go ever more nuts, their power-base will be rattled and they may lash out. You have to pull away and allow people to experience their karma. Khris Krepcik www.thehoodedsage.com wrote me a long email about how hard it is going to the shops as people’s fear and anger is easy to see. But what I have not mentioned is that they fire it at passers-by attempting to douse the area with their black fractal codes. It is their desire to control that requires them to lace an area with black lines of codes, which are mathematical forms of projected dark feeling and thoughts—psychic pollution. These black codes run down tubes just as the celestial codes do.

We can watch these normally unseen attacks, which become most prevalent when dark people start to lose that very same control they delight in. Khris told me he can hear the ghouls speaking out of the mouths of shoppers in the store, it must be so disconcerting. Welcome to Wal-Mart!

Khris Krepcik says if you are a seeker of the light you may now have to think about how you will retreat from humanity to a place that is less populated where you can be safer and your light can be protected for your evolution and healing, and/or for some greater use. Crowds offer you no peace, and the ‘going nuts’ syndrome will get ever worse. The dark is going to die (all of it), so many people will feel seriously threatened by a force of light they can’t see.'



In other words TUNE IN AND DROP OUT!


People are people and have been the same throughout history, through adversity and abundant times.

My Grandad went through 2 world wars and the depression - NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

No morph or any crap, nothing has changed.

People ain't bad when I go shopping in the beautiful place I live - with the bad crime and good stuff going on - people are people, some days it's rain and others it's shine, depends upon what time!!



Yeah, let's sell everything and retreat from humanity to follow Stuart Wilde.



Imagine that?


Can you imagine a third world war whereby society has collapsed along with it's government and currency and logistical aspects like food & water supply?????!!!!!!




Sitting in a community of hippies or in a fkn cave ain't gonna help you.



People would be fighting, raping, stealing, killing in the streets no matter where ..


It's all just so bloody stupid and I'm glad this forum page is up because they're a cult bunch of fkn conning nuts and quite disturbing and life draining.


LIFE YOUR LIFE AND LIVE YOUR DREAMS NOW! ONE DAY YOU WILL DIE OR GET SICK! DON'T BELIEVE KREPCIK OR THAT SILLY HIPPY NUTTER WILDE!



IF YOU WANNA GOT TO NEW YORK OR L.A AND DO SOMETHING OR LEARNING SOMETHING NEW AND NEED TO BUY SOMETHING - GO FKN DO IT!!!!!


LIVE!


:-)
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yo yo yo, excellent stuff. Mind you there's a longer thread going on here already:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Maybe it'd be better to merge the two threads?

Don't know but they seem different (I've read through both of them and this one is different from the link above).

I'll post my personal experience on the above-mentioned thread.
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What's wrong with an apocalypse or great levelling?

He and religions make out like it's a bad thing considering life is jsut so tedious and fkd up at times, and embarrassing when one can't be as rich and famous as your old foe or high school knob head.

Maybe that's what he wants us to think...... Who cares... Tsunami or Asteroid would be a great way to go, a great leveller seeing your ex-boss's house washed away and smashed up :-)

Oh oh sorry sorry must not be an evil bastard love me love me haha



I COULD GIVE A FUCK THOMPSON-WILDE IF GOD OF THE EARTH TOTALLED US ALL OUT CONSIDERING THE LIKES OF THE JUDEO REGIME TRUMAN, ROOSEVELT, KISSINGER ETC HAVE KILLED, MAIMED, SPONSORED TORTURE MORE HUMANS THAN ANY NAZIS AND ANY OTHER EMPIRE IN LIVING HISTORY!!!! COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK IF THIS WORLD ENDED TOMORROW :-)


SCARE TACTICS? FK OFF WILDE AND DIZZY OUT ON ACID IN A MADE UP CAMELOT IN A NATIONAL PARK POST WW3...


WARS DO NOT STOP AND WILL ALWAYS BE BUT THE WESTERN EMPIRE HASN'T BEEN FREE OF ANY HORROR, POSSIBLY THE WORST EVER KNOWN FOR DEATH.
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Sorry......... TYPO...... NOT MAGIC.......
I COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK THOMPSON-WILDE IF GOD OF THE EARTH TOTALLED US ALL OUT CONSIDERING THE LIKES OF THE JUDEO REGIME TRUMAN, ROOSEVELT, KISSINGER ETC HAVE KILLED, MAIMED, SPONSORED TORTURE MORE HUMANS THAN ANY NAZIS AND ANY OTHER EMPIRE IN LIVING HISTORY!!!! COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK IF THIS WORLD ENDED TOMORROW :-)
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To those 'concerned' at deemed misinformation:


A kid dies at age 14 of starvation, never did anything wrong to anyone and was a worthy soul immersed unto their own culture, more ethical in many unseen reason than the gluttony of the west or of persia.

A kid dies of disease at age 8, never truly knew what the word 'implication' meant let alone right or wrong, devils and the angelic - mature human terminology anyway.

What makes you special under your own delusions and hypomanic trips to believe that you have angels by your side? ….. and well known devils when facing your ego unto the impermanence of life you don't know shit about horror yet…?

You've lied and stuffed you face, flirted and done all the ten human made-up sins and you're still concerned with applying some bullshit small minded modus to a planet you cannot possibly understand with a mind so stuck in fluffy cotton new age popular dogma.

The problem between good and evil
Intrigue under the spell of the two faces of God - humanities universe
Each playing a game with itself
Just to thicken the plot




Why retreat & sell?

How pathetic..


If not doing everything you can to live up to extreme fundamentalist good moral values and ideals in your life today, then surely something is a miss with your lack of self-awareness.


"CLeaning up your act"?




How fkn pathetic.



Lose your act would be more poignant.






…..



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THEY'RE IN A BETTER PLACE THAN YOU ARE NOW?



THEY NEVER HAD A LIFE AND DIED AWFUL... STUFF YA FACE AND TROLL THE NET..



THAT'S THEIR KARMA...




YEP, THE ROCK BECOMES AN APE AND THE HUMAN BECOMES A STAR OR AN ALIEN... BUT REPTILES AIN'T LIKED... WEIRD, I THOUGHT THEY WERE MORE EVOLVED???!!!



DAMN - OVERPOPULATION!!!!!???????
CLean UP UR aCT
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Clean up ya act.



Stuart talks about females cleaning themselves on their periods thoroughly and if possible, anyone talking a crap should use the shower if available - every time!

We're made of urine, piss, shit, blood, plasma, heaps of crap - we're human!

Sure, be clean but obsessive compulsive???!

The guy is a little nuts there in his writings..


So, if all the crud that makes us human is kept within the body and we keep super clean on the outside, then surely ghouls within can entrap us all!??

Half the crowd at certain seminars took drugs, toxic drugs; slightly more toxic than that apple of which turns toxic during metabolism.


Detox is another trap which is slightly dumb, and pointless competition to new agers taking overt obsessive pride walking the path to living 'higher ground' themselves on this one.


Anyway, he never condoned gays but doesn't make sense considering his 'clean philosophy'.

Maybe he and Thompson should take an Mphil in dirt together, a renewal..



Don't pick up that phone, listen to mp3's or go net surfing on that iphone as ya might be having too much fun.



Unless you of course use a muslin cloth.



Failing that, dab a bit of Lavender on your lips and the mouth piece.




:-)




xoxoxox luv luv






Clean up ya act.
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he has never predicted any fall in the middle east correctly, without prior evidence!



He was in the middle east a while back with his buddies.


There's people there on the ground who live and work in different countries that know what's going on and has been the inevitable goings on since 911.


Libya has been in the works for a while, though the entire M-E region.



It's not a prediction by any means, neither his stock exchange ones.


Everything is a cult club and you have to generate emotion and mania in order to get someone to hand over your cash, drop the suitcases (everything that means) and follow you..


If you wanted to have a cult following, stay in 5 star places, travel around and have a large hierarchal club of extremely loyal devotees, how would you do it?



FIND A MENTOR AS THIS GUY WILDE IS FKN BRILLIANT AT IT.
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NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT DEFAMATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT REGARDING THOMPSON AND WILDE ETC ETC...



NO NEED TO COMPLAIN TO TAKE THIS SHIT DOWN...



BESIDES, THE NET WILL BE OFFLINE SOON AND COMPLETELY CEASE.
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He's clever. He's a brilliant writer with a definitive charisma and charm.

Reviewing his predictions, semi-predictions... the way he will throw in a line which is not logical of which evokes fear in the reader is a classic method for hook, line, sinker.

He is not a visionary nor a very talented psychic. He cannot see into your soul or people anymore than you can; trust me on that (hahahaha).

I will say he does have some problems mentally/psychologically, he's human..

His work has no clout or longstanding worth because he obviously hasn't benefited from somewhat a public life & his path, or lack thereof.

If you have connections, and he does, and your clever - even as an individual using all resources - you can predict a lot of things in life if you have the time.

Psychologically a lot of his visions are about his psyche and negative identity projection.

When you look at it all thoroughly and in detail taking it all into informative account you will find it a bit of a negative joke which wasted your time.

The guy is not a visionary.


This forum is for people that drop by so they can see time has been wasted.
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He's clever. He's a brilliant writer with a definitive charisma and charm.
 Quoting: ...... 1273104

W-a-s....

Reviewing his predictions, semi-predictions... the way he will throw in a line which is not logical of which evokes fear in the reader is a classic method for hook, line, sinker.
 Quoting: ...... 1273104

There's more to this than meets the eye...

I will say he does have some problems mentally/psychologically, he's human..
 Quoting: ...... 1273104

He's extremely screwed...

His work has no clout or longstanding worth because he obviously hasn't benefited from somewhat a public life & his path, or lack thereof.
 Quoting: ...... 1273104

You do not know what you're talking about. One should never underestimate a person's need for ego validation... In his case he's pulling people down into his abyss.

If you have connections, and he does, and your clever - even as an individual using all resources - you can predict a lot of things in life if you have the time.
 Quoting: ...... 1273104

The agenda is a bit more sinister than that...unfortunately...

When you look at it all thoroughly and in detail taking it all into informative account you will find it a bit of a negative joke which wasted your time.
 Quoting: ...... 1273104

Unfortunately, if he were merely a 'joke', he wouldn't have the following he does - which is precisely why this Stu is dangerous in a very destructive fashion. Not just for himself but those who don't know what he's after...

This forum is for people that drop by so they can see time has been wasted.
 Quoting: ...... 1273104

I would object to this. I will explain why in my next post.
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This is my post I wrote yesterday on the other 'Why I dislike Stuie thread'. It's much more in-depth and the better of the two.
I've amended a little bit but in essence it is the same comment that I wrote on the other thread.

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This, as Freedom has already pointed out, might be worth renaming Stuie exposed or SW & RC is a fraudulent, misleading spiritual trap.

Like a lot of posters here, I would like to offer my personal experience and, like so many before me, having turned from a previous avid reader of his books to having become increasingly uncomfortable with his dabblings with the dark forces.

I used to love his books!

They made me laugh, and I found them to be truly thought provoking in a 'no nonsense' kind of fashion - shootin' straight from the hip as they say, which I appreciated immensly... To this day I learned a lot from his early books (pre end of the 80s).

I truly refined my perception, my peripheral visions & I learned how to see people's energy fields, and not look at them when I felt their vibe to be unnerving, restless or just 'off'.

He truly made me want to be a 'fringe dweller' and not feel ashamed of it by not 'toeing the line'.

My path was influenced by his writings but he was only one of a lot of people that I 'discovered' on my path to a different (I do not like to use the term 'higher' because it is often abused in an elitist fashion to elevate oneself over others' spiritual progress - or - 'lack' thereof) kind of consciousness, an expansion of my natural sensitive (visionary, lucid dreaming, clair audience, clair sentience & clair voyance) abilities that became refined as I have grown older.

I have always had a very vivid ability to dream but also remember them. I remember dreams from when I was 7 years old, so it's not something I 'picked up' from Stuie.

What he did do though, is allow me to work more efficiently with what I was born with. To this day I take pride in keeping my word, deliver on my promises & not shy away from 'difficult' or becoming self-complacent. And to persevere in spite of obstacles & enormous difficulties - in spite of my best intentions.

This, IMHO, is what has been missing the most here in terms of assessing where he is now & where he started out.

Law of 'Attraction' (which is extremely misleading & very inhumane in the larger scheme of things when one looks at all the children that have been abused by priests & nuns in all religious indoctrinated organisations, including Mother Teresa who was not anywhere near being a 'holy mother' but rather a fake whore for anyone who'd fund her foster care homes out of which the 'orphans' - often only taken in for a shorter period of time when one of the parents would become ill - were then sold to rich Westerners desperate for a child - or the bombed to pieces by nuclear bombs, the offspring in Iraq, Afghanistan, India, being born deformed with open bodies, open heads & absolutely horrific deformities as a result of the depleted uranium in the ME or Bhopal in India) teaches a lot about 'intention' - or the agenda behind the 'agenda'.

In ayahuasca, it is very much a similar process whereby one has to surrender the ego and go into a journey with the right intention - i.e., healing, a better understanding of self & one's place in the world, resolving of traumas or physical conditions and a willingenss to completely let go.

What & how this healing then takes place is another matter all together & too complicated to go into depth here, suffice to say that those who do not know about the indigenous tradition of the Amazonian indigenous tribes's application of ayahuasca for some over 10,000 years as a tool for healing physical, emotional & spiritual problems as well as for seeing into the future or hunting animals basically go into the ayahuasca experience completely unprepared.

Even more so if someone as screwed as SW comes in with their own agenda all over the ayahuasca process.

I became increasingly perturbed by SW's dark visions & his ramblings about 'Tall Guys & Girls' fighting on the 'right side' for "us" in the etheric on his various websites (I was on the A-list, too).

Still, I had a lot of appreciation for him & it's in Brazil where I was to see who he had become....

Ralph Miller, the then owner & organiser of Heart of the Initiate (or, as one no nonsense assistant used to refer to it "Heart in the Sh*t") was introduced to ayahuasca through Stuie - who was introduced to aya in OZ, not the Amazon, which is peculiar to say the least.

What is really interesting is that I spoke to someone just this past weekend who knows someone who was with SW on his very first aya journey.

Ayahuasca brings out your unresolved issues but a bad ayahuasca 'facilitator' such as SW can truly screw matters badly for the individual, especially if there is mind control BS & psychic warfare going on. If the shaman isn't doing his part in steering the energies & protecting the attendees within a very specific realm of keeping the dark forces at bay by ensuring the necessary purification & protection for the duration of the whole journey, things go ugly very quickly...

And, when money comes into play it ups the ante by a 1000 fold. Money destroys the energy of healing from a non-egotistcal to a self-righteous platform. The indigenous shamans never charged for the healing of the patient. And the patient wouldn't even have to drink the brew in order for the healing to be performed.

Anyway, this person told me that when SW went on his first aya journey he kept screaming practically all night that he was a fraud, a rip-off merchant & a real piece of s***. He had to be babysat throughout the whole night.

He wouldn't keep quiet which is very, very disturbing when one goes through one's own process because one's auditory, and overall sensatory faculties are extremely heightened to the point where a whisper sounds as if they were talking at a normal voice level...

So, in essence SW knew that he'd lost it a long time ago. (I didn't at the time - I just was interested in ayahuasca precisely because Stuie talked about it in a kind of awe-inspiring fashion. It was also reading his website that then lead me to HOTI - Heart of the Initiate).

Long story short, after two years of reading about ayahuasca, I went to HOTI's retreat in Brazil which was quite daunting & extremely challenging. Ayahuasca is not for the faint of heart but if you do it with the wrong intention it can truly destroy any experiences that could be considered 'worthwhile'....

Also, people get addicted to it psychologically more so than physically... That's the danger when you do not know where to draw the line. Stuie's gone over it big time...

So, there I am in Brazil & I'm having never before unbelievable experiences... It has to be said that with the right guidance and a spiritually clean shaman, it can be extremely helpful & beneficial if you don't keep drinking the brew over an extended period of time as a means to get a 'kick' or "escape reality" (which is why a lot of westerners with strange ideas & unacknowledged needs, wants & desires get kicked royally in the ass).

Again, intention makes all the difference....!

If you come from ego you ain't going to have a pleasant experience. Aya can be extremely harsh & truly hellish...

That said, I found out during my first retreat that Stuie, "the man!" was going to conduct a retreat at HOTI in Brazil (September 2005). And I thought: "I have got to come back here! I want to meet him in person."

I'm not a groupie kind of woman but I did want to take advantage of that opportunity & anyway, it just fitted with my own healing path I was on at the time.

Back I went to Brazil in Sept. 2005. It was expensive but I wanted to be there - so I cranked up the moolah & just went.

Well, first thing Stuie didn't even talk to some people - as if they were not 'there'.

He does like to hold 'court' as I call it, "gathering" people around him in a guru-like fashion, with him taking centre stage. He can be very funny & entertaining to listen to, which wasn't to ooften during that particular retreat.

Nothing wrong with that - who doesn't like a bit of "adulation" every once in a while?

Thing is, he was quite derogatory towards the Colombian shaman as well as some attendees (like myself). There would be 'talks' before going into a journey.

Next afternoon, was the first introductory talk held by Stuie as well as Kajuyali, the Colombian shaman. Stuie had this young thing in tow (a blonde called 'Perky', if I remember correctly).

As we walk up to where the talk is to be held, Stuie suddenly addresses me & goes, rather rudely & completely out of the blue:

"You should take that three year old that you were & embrace it & love it, then you won't talk so much!"

It really pissed me off. Not because he wasn't right, but in the way & manner he'd said it - tactless, in an extremely patronising & arrogant fashion. He basically just took license with anyone & dished it out at them, exposing & putting people's vulnerabilites as a means to denigrate, humiliate & make them feel like sh*t for everyone to 'see'.

(And, just for the record, he pissed a lot of people off during that retreat. I was there for the two weeks.)

So, I'm really annoyed with his 'approach'.

I don't kiss nobody's derrière, including SW's. Like I said, I wasn't a groupie - never before & especially not since!

The first aya journey comes around & although each individual goes through a different process depending on where they find themselves spiritually, emotionally, physically and mentally, ayahuasca reinforces what you are naturally - if say, you're very intellectual your mind might disintegrate (which is why it is imperative to integrate the experience into your daily life which can take 6 months, a year or even longer) and introduce body work to ground you & keep you on even keel.

Scientists have used ayahuasca to find solutions to their work, artists or musicians have created better music, or the paintings have become incredible (Alex Grey is a great example of this). Healers find better ways to work with energy.

One has to follow a very specific diet prior to going into the aya process. It's important to note here that it's off alcohol, salty, fatty, spicy, processed, acidic foods or sugar, for at least 3 days to a week prior to the first experience. No sex either. Not even masturbation.

As I have mentioned above, my natural abilities have been my sensitivity, my ability to have visions in my dreams without any need to take psychedelics or entheogens. Information has come to me during my sleep state as well, so even that is nothing I 'learned' from Stuie.

For me, aya was like having high speed internet access to the universe - a lot of information & coming in at an incredibly high speed - difficult to be sure...and quite 'universal' rather then merely personal. I would also receive information on people attending, during my own process.

This is important within the context of what now follows.

At one point Stuie was standing beside me. And as I looked at him ayahuasca was telling me very clearly (including giving me instructions): "Stuie's gut is his own unprocessed shit he's shlepping around for ages. He's full of it & he doesn't know anything. And you can tell him tomorrow. The dark forces have him by the balls. You have to have an absolutely enormous ego to think you can take on the dark forces & come out 'winning'. He's f*cked & he knows it. It's over (for him)."

That message was very clear & unmistakable - I was able to just pull it up from memory after some over 5 years.

What a lot of people have missed so far, in addition to overlooking the 'intention' part, is that in shamanism there is definitely a side to it that can be referred to strictly as 'black magic' (brujeria). In the Amazon there's a real "brujeria war" going on between different $ham-an$.

Pablo Amaringo was a very respected & extremely well-trained generational ayahuasquero who stopped working as a shaman precisely because he would've been forced to kill a woman shaman who was after him. Often it is jealousy or wanting someone else's wife or wanting to take revenge that makes ayahuasca brujeria very risky ground for those who cannot discern one from the other - especially if they attend an ayahuasca workshop with the wrong kind of intention, idea or expectation.

Brujeria (black magic) is extremely serious & very, very dangerous in the etheric & astral realms Stuie has been 'playing around with', strictly overestimating his own abilities & having gotten sucked into the dark vortex that his nightmare has become.

As some have stated here, it's the fact that he takes those who don't know any better with him that makes him a 'no-go'. Period.

So, back to my aya message for Stuie.

The following day we had a sharing circle & we each could recount our experiences into the mike in front of the rest of the group of some 30+ people.

My turn comes & I say loud & clearly to Stuie, looking him straight in the eye without blinking:

"Ayahuasca told me that you don't know anything & you're full of sh*t".

You could've heard a needle drop.

Mind you, he never ever pestered me after that again.

Thing is, that the realm he's been hanging out in has truly got him by the throat so that's why his whole writings have become so dark.

His self-destructive 'habits' are his inability to deal with something he can no longer control & in spite of it all, he's truly f*cked but he still tries to bank on people's gullibility & their fear & need of him 'granting' his approval.

He's become a victim of his own overblown ego but he's not going to come out of it in one piece. He's disintegrating as anyone who does too much of any entheogens, psilocybin or any other substances without the proper approach, reverence & respect to put into the right context & not just use it for 'leisure' & high kicks.

I personally know the person who worked with him in Amsterdam & that guy has sold out to his ego as well. Big time. The same rude, condescending & nasty 'put-downs' from that guy as from SW. The whole new age messiah 'circuit' is full of frauds, fakes, wanna-be "spiritual masters" who aren't masters over themselves by a long shot because they need the feeling of not being 'present' to be able to not have to face their own demons in the present & without any substances. I know what guy sells E.

It's extremely unfortunate that the truly healing powers of 'the medicine', La Madre or the Vine of the Soul (as ayahuasca is referred to in the Amazon) has become so corrupted by plastic shamans, fraudulent 'facilitators' of Stuie's extremely dubious & ill-begotten "stature".

What was going on during that particular retreat freaked me out - at one point there was one of the participants who attacked somebody physically - it was really, really nasty & the helpers had to pull that person off the victim.

There was seriously nasty energetic stuff going on - screaming, shrieking - downright demonic. Sometime during that journey I just moved away from the whole group & sat on my own as far away from the 'grounds' as possible. All I knew then was that I was never going to return to HOTI ever again, that it was my last time there.

What happened in November 2005 (the hold-up that was orchestrated with the help of the owner) never surprised or shocked me.... It was just a confirmation of what I'd observed going on during the September retreat. The writing had been on the wall all along.

People treated the locals as if they were foot matts, being extremely rude, vulgar, obnoxious & loud, throwing around their money (so American, alas) showing off & just being there for the completely wrong reasons. It was all harrowing to watch that crowd.

I've done other ceremonies & I've had some truly deeply powerful healings, including being freed from physical conditions that doctors were not able to heal.

That Stuie has damaged so many people with his f*cked up approach to something that is considered sacred by the indigenous tribes is just horribly sad & it just shows what a man who was once an inspiration has become after he got involved with dark forces, thinking he could outwit them.

And, that, basically, was his downfall.

They still control him because once you've got into the deep end, there's no getting out of it - unless you are forced to - via your physical death. But even there, there is not necessarily 'retribution' or 'liberation' from the grip.

I wanted to offer this here because all the posts have not been able to come to why he turned so dark in such a stark & absolutely unexplicable fashion & now is feeding into the New World Religion programming that has been dismissed here, to a great extent as well, because part of Agenda 21 is to programme the masses for a '2nd coming of Christ' - which will be nothing but a fake holographic projection of each spiritual "faith's" guru, Master or Messiah.

It ties right into his 'worshipping' Mother "Gaia".

This link shines a completely different light on the whole 'Gaia' & "End of Days" doom & gloom that has 'coloured' so many of SW's writings of late...

The Green Agenda
[link to green-agenda.com]

This short clip gives a completely different view on what Gaia worship is really about - the real agenda behind the 'official' agenda. Agenda 21 really is aboutconcerted & deliberate destruction of the environment & it is not 'accidental'. SW has become a tool for the dark forces (Illuminati) in more ways than one.

There are no 'accidents' in politics, religion or mass mind control programming. The competition amongst the new age 'authors' (self-promoters) is ferocious, so the battles that SW has had are just part of the whole charade that is driving the new age scammers & profiteurs.

Agenda 21 & The Club of Rome


I feel that Stuie has lost his way & he knows the game but f*cked up bad. And he'll not truly come out of it without losing even more of who he used to be. He's a shadow of his former self but he wanted it this way, so, as the Law of Resonance (which is truly a much more accurate definition, IMHO) would vibrate at the level he is at, it's not good to be in his vicinity.

Unless you're on the same self-destructive ego trip that he is on.

Money doesn't even come into the equation here because it's really about psychic vampirism & feeding off other people's energy to keep oneself alive. Money is just the emans by which the gullible are drawn into to feel 'special' by being 'granted' access to his Redeemers Club.

It can truly screw up the ones exposed to this & if they are not careful or don't know anything about it, it's devastating & ultimately very, very destructive & evil.

A lot of the new age shysters are 'in it' for themselves, including Deepak Chopra & others. David dIcke is as f*cked & fake as SW. Icke doesn't have a spiritual fibre in his entire body.

Different 'mask', same BS.

They're all working towards deluding, confusing & screwing with people's heads & their spiritual desperation for 'salvation' that will never come in the way they expect or hope for.

Like SW said himself: Be your own guru & have a 'take no prisoners' approach. Question everything & hold it up to the light of truth & real (authentic, selfless) intention.

I learned from him but he didn't like his own medicine being 'granted' to him when the moment came.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I did both.
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Yeah, but you're back here and it didn't work.


It's all about Aya and spirituality still, just shifting.


Dump all of the dizzy hippy shit.


It's the absence of religiosity and ideology that seems to be true freedom.


Reading about different ideals to SW and talking about high-speed connections to the universe... I mean it's all shit...



There's a lot left unsaid to, like sexual thoughts and interpersonal dynamics.



We're happy to read the main point regardless of the other stuff rambling, the fact is, you got the vibe and impression that the guy is a bit of a sham.



Glad people can throw it all away here after reading some posts.
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no, shouldn't say get rid of it all because some people need to believe and want to dedicate themselves.

you can't shit on something...

i feel that i could say you have to go on your own path - thus tout individualism but that'll only take a person away again from life like Wilde and Thompson covertly do (they get out of it by saying be there for humanity but clearly do not do shit for it - where's the volunteer work, donations and dumping of Mercedez & 5-star hire trips? Where's the pay backs from the theft? Why ask the followers to donate?).

Major or more well-known religions work differently because they're less cult like on the fringe, unless one goes into being of the organisation.

No matter what religion, people rock up worldwide with their families unhindered by critique and all the weird psych shit that goes on with these smallish to medium sized new age 'CULT' organisations.

Stuart Wilde is not like Wayne Dyer or anything mainstream like that.

These guys like Wilde are in essence of cult leadership.

It's easier to control, they can get away with things being less scrutinised and so on...


He's not a poor man.


I'm wasting time and can't return here.


Cheers folk and take care :-)
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Yeah, but you're back here and it didn't work.
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What are you on about? What - acording to you - didn't "work"?

Dump all of the dizzy hippy shit.
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What did you imbibe or swallow before you answered? You certainly sound like someone who is having a trip himself.

It's the absence of religiosity and ideology that seems to be true freedom.
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Did I say something else? Just because I put up the videos & the links doesn't mean I'm "into religion". That's utter BS. I'm completely against any kind of religious indoctrination - unfortunately SW is trying to indoctrinate his followers into living 'according to SW'.

Reading about different ideals to SW and talking about high-speed connections to the universe... I mean it's all shit...
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And you know shit - right? Did you ever meet him? Probably not.

There's a lot left unsaid to, like sexual thoughts and interpersonal dynamics.
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That's your mind going off rambling. Your mind is as f*cked as anyone spurting off that rubbish.

We're happy to read the main point regardless of the other stuff rambling, the fact is, you got the vibe and impression that the guy is a bit of a sham.
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What's your bone, dude? Can't accept that someone told Stuie to his face that he's full of his own bull? I'd do the same if you'd be standing there in front of me.

You don't sound too smart yourself, BTW. Too many drugs probably.

Like I said: What did you swallow before answering in this non-sensical, a bit dim kinda fashion?

The guy is 'a bit of sham'?

I never fell for all his Redeemer's Club clap trap. You're shouting up the wrong tree.

Fool.
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Oh BTW, User ID: 1273104, I don't follow nobody - if you haven't picked up on that by now you're definitely a bit 'slow'.

Like I said, not too bright. Go pop some more 'E' tablets - that'll really help ya being extra slow. Meanwhile you can with your toes. I think that's all you're able to manage.

G'day to planet dork.
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(Real slow.)

...... it really didn't work.
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Who's slow...?

I wanted to offer this here because all the posts have not been able to come to why he turned so dark in such a stark & absolutely unexplicable fashion & now is feeding into the New World Religion programming that has been dismissed here, to a great extent as well, because part of Agenda 21 is to programme the masses for a '2nd coming of Christ' - which will be nothing but a fake holographic projection of each spiritual "faith's" guru, Master or Messiah.

What relevance is this? Nuttersville.


There's no benefit or interest in Jesus arriving anytime soon (has there ever been?).


Then the rise of Islam is probably Agenda 101 with much more coherent relevance...


No, plenty of the posts have stated - quite specifically pertaining to Stuart Wilde as a cult - that he's very Judeo-Christian in ideology (as expected like most of the new age)--his visions are always certainly Christian the older he gets--and many tripsters and people longing for something, still searching perhaps, are majority Christian; the audience is basically Christian.



As westerners get older they usually turn to their national faith - simple.



Stuart Wilde was not like this 25 years ago, he's a lot more Christian now.



No Agenda 21 bullshit for paranoid stoners.



He's turned dark because of cult tactics, personality, gripes with the world, quite 'simple'.



2 coming of Christ? Agenda 21? Stuart Wilde is systemically, possibly knowingly of a part of that supposed sphere of influence?


You're of unstable mind.


You need to dump it all and become super simple so you can think with more intelligence :-)


Slowly.


Re-read all the posts not your emotive ramblings.


The point is about Wilde and cult behaviour here.



Sure, why you dislike him and posters and all the rest, but Agenda 21 and disliking him are not valid points or logical.


I wanted to offer this here because all the posts have not been able to come to why he turned so dark in such a stark & absolutely unexplicable fashion & now is feeding into the New World Religion programming that has been dismissed here, to a great extent as well, because part of Agenda 21 is to programme the masses for a '2nd coming of Christ' - which will be nothing but a fake holographic projection of each spiritual "faith's" guru, Master or Messiah. - PARANOID CRAP.

DON'T DO ACID/AYA AGAIN.


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yo yo yo, excellent stuff. Mind you there's a longer thread going on here already:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Maybe it'd be better to merge the two threads?

Don't know but they seem different (I've read through both of them and this one is different from the link above).

I'll post my personal experience on the above-mentioned thread.
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Stuart Wilde? I didn't know anyone still read his crap!!!

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