Why I dislike Stuart Wilde

He is certainly charismatic, I attended one of his workshops well over 20 years ago and the first week we did introductory then meditation things.

Then it was hyped, by his acolytes, as the be-all-and-end-all of personal growth seminars, something that had ALL the answers, the solver of the great riddles, answer to all the esoteric questions.

He packages himself as THE GURU, so yes despite all the "Im not ego" , just "spirit" stuff, there does seem alot of EGO at work.

It fit in with the "greed is good" ethos of the 80s, and there were things like metronomes, snakes, firewalks, flipping energy, meditation (all at weird hours), blindfolds, assault courses.

So it was a mixture of relaxation, trauma, physical activity, group dynamics, group identification/ego and bad food.

Some of the things were quite disquieting, such as " energy flipping", it didnt sit well with a few people. He played down, and in some cases mocked people who had real concerns about it..... but I think they were entirely valid concerns.

Long story short, he had alot of people prepared to do very very risky stuff ..... after they had signed an indemnity to him for any unintended consequences of their activities.

I wasnt aware of any drugs or anything like that, but the stuff we were doing, none would have been needed.

the above might seem a little harsh, and I do think he has some very interesting perspectives and things to say.......his books are great, but there is a financial undercurrent and a few contradictions which make you question things.

another thing Stuart said in his teachings was something like "tell people what they want to hear, but put some of your own light into it".

He also went on about the benefits of invisibility and not falling for the trap of celebrity. Yet he didnt manage that himself, although to be fair his work is all about getting your face and ideas out there.

It seems that when you put yourself "out there", it kind of snowballs - attracting all sorts of people, some wonderful and others just plain predatory. And if you want to make a living out of it you need other people to help you push your barrow.

Therefore he would have been prey to the "well if you are as evolved/wise/clever/enlightened etc as you claim to be then you must have had this experience/dream/vision/healing ......." and you would be stuck in one endless brain fuck.

It would be very difficult to keep your centre in those circumstances.

I was stupid enough to fall for Stuart Wilde and became a member of the Redeemers Club. I believed his fear inducing nonsense. He took advantage of me and fed me lies about my loved ones at a time that I was extremely vulnerable on one of his Aya retreats. This led to my leaving my husband because Stuart told me he was demonic. The repercussions for for family and myself have been terrible. It has been a hard way to learn to listen to my own heart rather than to others. Be wise. Be careful. Listen to your own heart.

Thanks for coming forward. I feel more people who woke up from this cult need to come forward. I don't know how much are out there, how much of them woke up and left this "group" and their influence. I cut all my ties, so I don't know who made it out.

They tried the same with me and my loved one over a period of a year on multiple Aya retreats held by SW and KK and their followers.

They were hitting on her, like there is no tomorrow. Stuart calling the girls during a ceremony on Aya to his mat, telling the girls how he can give them one-hour-orgasms and stuff to heal them from their demonic/dark side and shit.

During our time there, at first they tried to convince me she is demonic and that I have to watch out. On one Ayahuasca workshop there was one incident were a supposed "friend" of mine, someone very close to Stuart was giving me his message, right after we drank our first cup of Aya during a ceremony. He took me to the side outside the ceremony room, and he told me, "Message from Stuart, you might not always stay together with her, because she is so dark."

All cloaked in the whole "I am your "friend" bullshit. And the worst: Right after drinking the most powerful hallucinogenic brew on the fucking planet!!!

Can you say fucking twisted and evil, installing doubt about your loved ones shortly before you get high on something 100 times more powerful than ACID??? They are fucking with the heart, with the love and trust of people who see them as their teachers. They don't know what Love and God is, they are satanists in disguise who spit on the values of the heart....I truly came to understand that.

That is the reason why they hang out in hell all the time, and Stuart wants to take everyone he can down there with him. He knows he is fucked....I probably don't have to mention that I had the worst fuckin hell trip of my entire life after this incident, the Aya kicked in shortly after "my friend's friendly message"..... I puked my heart out, while they started to work on her.


During this "Aya-worksho" I realized that I didn't fall for their bullshit and I trusted in my heart and in my love to her. I didn't give a shit about what they told me. Thank God I had some discernment left.

On the next workshop a few months later, when they realized they couldn't fuck with me and my love, they switched and started to raise HER (feeding her ego, by "granting her special healing abilities (-bs), giving her special access to the inner circle (hanging out with Stuart and the gang in the special room with a bunch of other elevated girls).Lol! There they told her that I was going "dark". She told me but I knew that I wasn't. I never fell for it, that's why they were afraid of me, I always saw the humans behind their huge egos and their agenda shone forth. They also tried to invite her alone to special gatherings, private Ayaworkshops with Stuart in London, but she refused to go without me.

She was easier prey for their game cause she was younger than me, and pride and specialness was something she had not really transcended yet. That's how they get people by puffing up their spiritual Egos, giving them a sense of belonging to the chosen ones, while excluding their loved ones to separate them.

We made it out, cause our love was stronger than their games. but it was fuckin close. They were separating us physically and emotionally by installing doubt, fear and distrust bigtime cause they just wanted to fuck her. Took a while to heal that shit, but we made it.

All left their families, Kris, Stuart, Casper, Tom. Love doesn't mean shit to them. These people are no spiritual teachers, they are full of shit.

Anyone who posts here who thinks he/she can contribute something cause they read a fucking book by Stuart or he/she went to one of his seminars 10 years ago, should better keep quiet. Your opinions are worth shit. Sorry to break it to you but you are not really in a position to voice opinions after reading a fucking book.

Others who actually know these people (Ex RC, Hooded Sage members, Aya workshop attendees) please come forward and share, so others who are still in the group, who find this board can read and make up their own mind.

I have no grudge against any of these people. I just want the Truth to be out.

This is fucking therapy! Hahaha :)

Some members have written on this forum that people speaking out are all "ATTACKS" and "LIES".

I do not think people would lie about stuff like this, and what is the benefit in comparison to the benefit of a 'cult'?

It's really quite of a realisation you all have helped with here, about how the books lead onto to the gatherings and the gatherings lead onto control cult tactics and some really pointless and weird stuff.

It certainly is more than an unorthodox boutique religion going on here, yet many new age cults thrive.

With his posts and audio, you can read between the lines when you're not in a dreamy new age vulnerable state; vulnerability leads onto desperation, escapism and other natural psychological survival needs.

"Power mode, power play" - just kidding (from early Wilde)..

* The audio works, mp3s, are all the same repetitive material focussing on upcoming disasters, trashing your ego to return to a humble surrender open to god whilst selling an event at the end. Like many teachers he does have a good sense, philosophy in dealing with life, people, yet at the same time a brilliant charisma for what he does (it's something that one has as a natural talent). Yet what he does is start to break you apart by allowing a sense of helplessness over your problems and a return to allowing god - which is okay but you'll find that you can't let life walk all over you, you can't run away when shit hits the fan, which is what many hippies do prior to seriously dropping out & becoming imbalanced for an imbalanced predatory cult. With much of what he's said about economics and geography it's half right, he's not well educated, and has wealthy contacts that answer most of his questions in a simplistic manner. He's not tertiary educated so the way he writes on matters such as economics and politics is basic. A journalist would give you a lot more detail and answers outside of their corporate commitments.

* If you've bought stuff online from him via his assoc. third party know that they keep records, not from pay pal, but addresses and details. If you do buy stuff again from these types of people do not use valid information.

I guess this is about being educated and self-educated when it comes to all of this.

Cults trash your life by opening your psyche to feeling that your life is irrelevant, then offer options of freedom unto a new way using 'tools' and stuff you can't see until you can get into a trip about the paranormal.

Cults ask for the impossible, ask that you become a completely change, expose your intimate flaws/characteristics, they will ridicule and manipulate you, you can be sure of that.

Cults are usually small and do not operate in large numbers unless within the confines of a publicly accepted religion such as mormon, christian, hindu worshipping.

People are drawn to smaller groups because of a particular sense of anti-establishment in their life at any given time.

They may resent typical authority on spiritual matters, perhaps for good reason of bad experience, survival, and so a smaller cult identity is agreed to before they even participate on a serious financial and personal level.

There's plenty of them out there.

I really really appreciate all of you for sharing you experiences.

Thanks to all contributing to this thread, very worth while reading. I was there once.

David Hawkins sounded good until he said mohammed was over 700. A man who knowingly slaughtered the males of a whole tribe and enslaved the women and children. A man who who said it was fine to kill or enslave those who didn't follow him? I don't buy it and Hawkins has no credibility.

Bullshit. Before you open your mouth, do your homework dude.

Mohammed falls into the category of "fallen teacher". Hawkins says he calibrated at 700 when he dictated the Koran. He goes on explaining that he fell to a calibrated level of 130 (way below the integrity line, Falsehood, BS)at age 38.


He talks about the fallen teacher/gurus at length at his lectures as well as in his books. Mohammed is his favorite example of this category.

Just shows, that you have not even read Hawkins. Sorry to break it to you, but you are obviously major arrogant and full of shit to jump into a discussion like that, without even having the slightest clue of what you are talking about/making just plain false statements.

Do your fucking homework before you open your mouth or just shut the fuck up.

Thanks for playing.

Anyway, onwards...


I'd like to say to you all that I've grown up with some characters that you'd call movers & shakers - some are now quite famous in America and Australia.

I went to good schools and friends bumped into friends along the way.

I got into the meditation stuff, went to retreats and bought loads of books on metaphysics. I laugh at myself now after all these years... life still reflects back life.

Spiritually can be dysfunctional within working life, there's a balance.

Not denoucing any religion, for your sake and mine, but the ideas about becoming successful from new age cult teachers tricks of 'consciousness' tools etc are more bogus stuff to watch out for, which sells.

I've known an old best friend (and ex-flat mate) since age 14, who drank, I attended his last wedding (now divorced hah) spent loads of time being a nasty gossip, playing his personality right, who has now risen to the top of his game in radio since he started 12 years ago. He's now a radio star nationwide with the very big salary that comes with it - somebody with nationwide recognition and industry respect. He interviews the biggest artists in the world and all sorts of travel and shit that entertainment brings with it on prime time radio and tv.

For music lovers: Throughout my days of hanging around certain folk, another example is that of a band that recently topped the US rock charts and has been touring non-stop for 5 years around america (not in a shitty bus).

I met their manager in 1997, 3 years before he met that band he'd later manage.. who I repeatedly saw and watch grow at gigs whereby there was 9 people in the room.

I've known another character through my brother who ended up making 20 million from an Internet based tech by the time he was 24, sold it and now consults.

I'm sure you have many stories of successful people.

Stuart Wilde's take on it all is that 'the nasties rise to the top and the nice ones get crushed'.

He sucks folk in as it appeals to the anti-establishment and resentment in SOME of his audience.

In truth, in sanity, there's no particular regulation or statistics going on at any particular demographic and psychographic.

These people I've intimately known NEVER EVER practiced meditation or formal visualisation, neither had any strong religious beliefs, DID NOT have outstanding talents that they worked on 24/7, were NOT gym junkies, TOOK no special drugs or potions/diet and they didn't do mind exercises writing things down, or listening to new age/self-help tapes or goal setting exercises...

I can remember disorganisation, alcohol and pot comedy with these people with virtually no sense of spiritual-atmosphere purpose at all.

Very straight up average idiots with no background in the occult or freemasonry or anything like religious ties as some kind of conspiracy (none of these examples I know well are Jewish either).

They all had one thing in common and that is personality, they knew how to stay on top no matter what.

They didn't pretend to not be upset or confident in varying times, but they were very action oriented on being within a network or particular field - they didn't wishy wash around.

They're not particularly clever, certainly not intellectual (whether autistic or out-going scholar), but they just have a WORKING PERSONALITY that's on the game all the time consistently.

They did and still do have egos.

One would have to consider people's motivations in life for the interest in self-help groups, metaphysics and so-called spirituality.

It attracts a lot of people that are trippy and fkd up.

I guess there's a place for everyone.

The clock is ticking.

* As usual, SAME TRICK again whereby he makes an excuse that the world will end, off to save folk you don't know, so he can DELETE the whole site for the dummies that didn't really take much note and still thought it was all true and great.

* If your life is shit, then really, do you give a crap that the world will end because of some lamb? Life is tough enough for billions of people including the starving and middle class and all around the status of the global population.

* And if you were God/Goddess would you bother with this game and design all these little biblical games, lambs and other major/minor gods and turkey or whatever, that kills all the bad people in the world, better yet, annihilates the entire of horrid humanity just for the sake of some kind of ego trip of God?

* If you were god would you bother with some primitive fucked up biblical game that only supposed 'actualised' people can assimilate, teach to other humans and understand truly? I fucking wouldn't bother.. I'd let humanity be as fucked up as it wanted to be or disappear and wouldn't be god; then again, I'm only human hahahah! :-)

* What a load of mentally fucked up shit:



The Last Post (sw)

I have to go to other things now (same trick), I’ve been assigned a new task, so I’m closing this blog soon (yep, you'll be closing it then reopening after armageddon). Here is my last post, it explains what’s happening now on earth (now, then and the future.. yep).

People thought me nuts (and why would people think that?), they were cruel towards me (life's so cruel when you fly around ripping people off staying in Blakes Hotel for months on end with shitty updates at the pub - fucking wimp - oh sorry, Warrior in the mist), inventing terrible stories and vindictive lies (do you have any sense of self-esteem or broke down as an old man from ripping people off and getting fkd up psychologically from acid), but in the end what I said was true, and what I predicted back in the mid 1990s and since, came true. Those parts that have not yet arrived, will come (won't happen over night, but it will happen, same old bullshit line).

The Secret of the Lamb (sw)

In the temple in Jerusalem (more biblical crap because no new material, needs to use the biggest religions in the world to stay relevant to questioning folk of traditional dogma) sick people would purchase a lamb and sacrifice it hoping to induce a miracle healing—it was a blood cult. No one felt for the agony of the lamb as humans think they are very important and the animals are insignificant (yep, nobody was vegan back in those days were they stu.. which is why they didn't fucking know what it was neither set up health food vegan stores and the like.. or new age shops.. you fucking dimwit)

But in the Aluna Mirror-World dimensions the animals are very much higher than us. They are like mini-gods and some are major gods, the Lion of Judah for example is higher than every human that has ever lived on earth (??????? anyone here not scared of Lions.. and the animal world like sharks... new age sharks).

Humans are a species of hell-world beings (most people don’t know that.. we're all fucked then), and humans incarnate out of the hell worlds to come here in the hope of improving themselves (pointless game really as most fall back into hell.. hell seems more active than heaven - join satanism then, needs new recruits haha).

Even the insects are higher than us (ok, little worms we are then), the praying mantis here is just a few inches long, but in the Aluna world it stands ten foot tall. The mantis is a healer—fries ya noodle (bakes ya cake fuckwit), most humans have no idea of these things because humans are not highly evolved (no human is highly evolved compared to the prey mantis, lion of biblical times and other animals.. may as well kill each other off with virus used by the NWO to then kill itself off - ding ding??!!), and because they come from hell they are surrounded by dark so they can’t see (ding ding).

When you close your eyes and see darkness what you see is the Aluna ghouls around you blocking the light, it’s their hell that creates that darkness. If you incarnated from one of the heavens, six seconds after you close your eyes you would see the celestial light (why not tape your eyes stuart, permanently, and overdose on acid to a lethal level).

Because humans can’t see, they can’t learn in those other world dimensions, it is denied to them. Ignorance is their karma, and so they have to make do with incorrect dogma and endless thinking, humans really don’t warrant the effort in helping them to see. They are not pure enough.

* HERE I GIVE UP WITH THE COMMENTARY AS IT'S BEYOND STUPID... JUST MAKES ME LAUGH AND THEN GIVE UP WITH IT... Sorry./b]



The Lamb continued…

Let us say to illustrate a point, six million lambs were slaughtered in Jerusalem, that sets up a deficit of pure evil, an imbalance of karma. A body of pain and agony. All equations have to be balanced in the end.

The Lamb is a god linked to the Lion of Judah. It is the Lion of Judah.

After human evil has run its course and all the hell-world humans that didn’t make it to the light have been indicted for their crimes, false witness, lies, violence, rip offs, cruelty, spite etc. The Lamb comes back. Ding, ding ooops!

It comes back at the head of a vast celestial army, which includes the animals that fight like the white tiger and the jaguars. The army is vast, when you see it in the Aluna from an aerial view you can’t count it—millions upon millions. The army rubs out the ghouls and then it turns on the tyrants and the liars, the pedophiles and the debauchery, the power trips, importance, glamour and corruption.

And the Lamb walks out ahead, it leads the army, but now it is not just a lamb, it is a great god with ten thousand other gods inside its soul, and it comes with a light that shines a hundred miles or more—it is greater than all the humans and all the animals. In a few years, it closes the equations and removes the humans.

It commands the heavens and the hells, it commands the stars and the meteors, it commands the earth and the sea, it commands the sky, it is the sky.

Humans can’t believe there is a force here now that will do them great harm; they think Jesus will come to raise them up and make them special, but that’s an ego-trip.

The redneck Christians could not stand for even one minute in the presence of Jesus. He’s very pure, his light would fry them, their ribs would crack, their bowels would evacuate, their hearts would stop. See how stupid humans are? How grand they strut—silly.

The secret of the Lamb is that it is not a lamb, it is a god—it was all a sucker’s trap—a Mr. Smiley thing, my readers will know what that means.

The Lamb is vast beyond words, bigger than a trillion universes and how the Lamb of God takes away the sins of the world is it kills the ghouls, removes the humans and crushes the liars.

I found this teaching (when it was shown to me over a period of several years) most interesting—very true indeed.

Thank you, over and out, it’s been fun, love Stuie W. (sw)

Remember the tape he did called "FREEDOM"?


Probably the best thing he ever did.


Remember that bit in it where he mocks all the biblical stuff saying "you've gotta have this and that... all that blood and guts talk."


?


Now = just fucked up.

Thanks for sharing your story.

Stuart has had the stigmata for seventeen months, the pain is excruciating it goes on day and night 24/7. But from this his hands have developed a great light. That celestial light has been graciously shown to him over this last year on about 240 occasions.

He’s been assigned the task of healing people that are terminally ill and to save the children and help people escape.



.............. dddrrrrrruuukkkkkrrrriiiiiggghhhhttt'eeeeeeeeee then.



I am sure his followers can document his abilities and new found powers for youtube then... perhaps 'wake' people up to humanities plight and downfall.



Save the children and help people escape? Doing Jesus' work then... big credible following now then, with all the public enjoying documented incredible healings - for free :-)


TOTAL AND UTTER ABSOLUTE FRAUD.


Everyone knows the guy is a fraud now.. what other options does he have?

From the Webmaster…

Stuart Wilde is not posting on this blog anymore, and his other site www.stuartwilde.com is being reconstructed so it maybe be down for a week or so, but it will re-open.

SW has been writing and teaching on the Internet free of charge for fourteen years. But his knowledge is too complicated for the average reader, and now what he see in his visions is too scary or too controversial to post. All his visions are coming true—eek!

He has a great love for people, he doesn’t want to debilitate then with too many unpalatable facts. “It’s better” he says, “that it all becomes obvious to people little-by-little over time”.

Stuart has had the stigmata for seventeen months, the pain is excruciating it goes on day and night 24/7. But from this his hands have developed a great light. That celestial light has been graciously shown to him over this last year on about 240 occasions.

He’s been assigned the task of healing people that are terminally ill and to save the children and help people escape.

He will start in three months time unless he receives different instructions.

The old SW mailing list was deleted by Stuart two years ago. If you want to be on the NEW SW 2011 mailing list pls send your email to [email protected]

Pls Note: the SW admin people can’t answer personal questions or take mail for Stuart, they don’t have time, and our operation is very, very small, we can’t hire staff to handle 300-500 emails a day. So please just send your email address and we’ll get back to you in due course.

Thank you Webmaster …. stuarwtildeblog.com

People - human beings - and debris [link to theexperiencejunkie.com]


Holding hands [link to firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com]


New York [link to theexperiencejunkie.com]


Stuart Wilde helping out the eco system tirelessly [link to www.youtube.com]


Apart from sitting on his ass jerking off in top first class world class expensive hotels, and breaking people up trying to steal from folk, and trying to get laid affirming his lack of personal power by trying to manipulate other people for basic drives he can't sort out on his own elsewhere; when has he truly, fearlessly given of himself to humanity?


Such a con and a demented twit, now telling people he can heal the terminal 'in secret'.

If I cold heal people I'd want the fkn world to know and I wouldn't be scared of the authorities either - Stuart Wilde is not Jesus Christ or any other spiritual saint, he's scared and pathetic and a totally liar and conman.


Regardless of any conspiracy and diversion in argument, people jumped to their deaths without complaint because they knew they had no option... normal every day workers.

[link to www.youtube.com]


Stuart Wilde is a piss weak flake of a half-assed father, individual, greedy new age scamming insecure dweeb who will die knowing full well of the lies he's built a career of.... heroic and selfless? The guy is a little person, tiny individual wrapped up in himself with an eccentric pile of bullshit he tries to sell called a philosophy.


He is probably one of the worst of the new age fallen people right now to be exposed.


He's ripped so many people off and is just a scared drippy idiot.

The Internet has really allowed people to argue and make decisions and form a general consensus.


Q. If you had the kind of perception and healing ability that he claims to now have, would you hide away and sell fear?


He's a scared character and knows he's a conman but doesn't want too much exposure, wants to sit around, stay in nice hotels, wear gay new age scarfs, fly around the world visiting tourist attractions making up stories, and take drugs and drink until he's nursing home material and play mind games and rip off people - little twit.

LOOK AT THE FUCKING IDIOT


[link to www.youtube.com]

LIVE.

Thanks for this thread about Stuart. Even though
Stuart has done a lot of good for people,
the stuff about the mind games and the ripping apart of couples and individuals is all true. I witnessed it time and time again until I couldn't take it anymore and I left. Some people were seriously messed with and lives were ripped apart
and ruined.

His group is NOT A SAFE PLACE to get vulnerable.

YOU WILL BE particularly vulnerable if:

You have father issues

You are younger than 40

You are psychically gifted

You are an attractive woman who feels like you can handle it ... you
will be played as it is high level manipulation.

You suffered any physical/ emotional abuse as a kid or young adult.

You have any hopes of keeping in touch with the group that
you end up with at the gigs ... especially if you want to adopt the group as your new family.

A lot of the information is good information to work on in your own
personal journey but it's not a safe environment.

There is nothing but secrecy. The amount of manipulative secrecy involved with this group is enormous. Disclosure of what the deal really is about is very difficult to attain. To attain full disclosure you have to be willing to lie.
You have to be comfortable telling half truths constantly that add up to completely giving people the wrong impression and you have to be able to take the fall for the Stuart messes to prove your loyalty. Ultimately he can't be loyal himself as indicated by the eventual alienation of nearly everyone he claims as his dear dear friend. Stuart has very few if any long term friends.

Most people think they can "finesse" the situation and leave without any ill will and without being demonized. But Stuart is usually one step ahead of them and ends up making them look terrible. The only people that get out relatively unscathed are the ones that Stuart is simply not interested in. The boring ones with no personality that were kicked out after a period of time for not being "spiritual enough".

The whole thing plays on people's "Specialness" for not feeling "Special" Believe me, the people that are close to Stuart are all about being close to Stuart and being special that way. Then he gets tired of them and sends them away or they get in a fight about money. Not a safe environment or an honest environment for true spiritual inquiry.

However some people's spiritual abilities do get a boost from being around him for a period of time ... but it definitely comes at a cost that usually involves ditching the family for long periods of time. This gets glorified along with the secrecy and lies.

Unfortunately I do see it as a cult.

the "stigmata" Stuart is plagued with is psoriasis.

Just to confirm your cult suspicions he's still posting on stuartwilde.com now.

After writing a goodbye and get lost final post.

As you can see:

"The bangle on my right wrist seems to be a power source it never flies. If the UFOs ever trouble you, say out loud, “I’m with Stuart Wilde” it scares them and they flee. This technique has been tested over and over, it works every time."

He's mentally lost it or it's all a complete con job, but back for the people in a little way all the same.

Definitely a cult and you'd be non too bright to join it or have anything to do with it in terms of money and membership.

Anybody that says stuff like the above quoted from his recent post, who recommends 'Krepcik' (Doctor Spock lookalike), is 100% cult and for very vulnerable &/or stupid people.

I don't know a mature adult with a decent education or career that would be a member of that kind of crap, unless extremely vulnerable/unwell psychologically with various problems.

Sorry, but fucking heck??!!!

Ever since I read Infinite Self in 2000 I've taken an interest in Stuart Wilde and his teachings. I've always found him to be ethically suspect, but I found Infinite Self very helpful, so I bought a few more of his books and looked in on his site occasionally. I was quite attracted to his 'path' in the early days, but I had also recently become Chrstian. I knew I would have to go one way or the other. Then one night I had a dream. I am standing in my father's house, looking at two people standing facing me in his garden: Jesus Christ and Stuart Wilde. Jesus is holding a big, fat fish in his hands. Stuart Wilde is holding a tiny, scrawny fish. On waking I realised I'd just gotten an answer to my dilemma - I stayed on the Christian path.

After reading about some of the experences of people who've gotten close to Wilde, I threw some of his books in the trash this morning. I've kept Infinite Self for now, because I think it's his best and because I know that the message is more important than the messenger. I always ignored anything he wrote about politics, science (where he makes beginner's errors) society and in fact anything other than his perceptions of the spirit realms. I'd perceived enough myself to validate some of his own discoveries and so I thought he was worth reading for that alone. Recently, though, I've come to the conclusion that even his spiritual writing is becoming untrustworthy. In fact some of it is very irresponsible and potentially damaging to others. He's also lost his light touch and what used to come across as irreverent humour and iconoclasticism now reads like tragi-comic rantings and self-deluding, New Age flakery.

Thanks for this thread. It's confirmed my worst suspicions and been an enlightening read.

Hello.

Commenting on the lady who said Stuart rips couples apart. Coming from a stance of knowing a thing or two, your perception is limited to your own reality.

The dynamic between couples in a relationship is not always seen. Men and women harm and abuse each other- have dysfunction and weaken each other. Just because the message was "he's too dark, she's too dark" etc., does not mean they are predators trying to rip people apart. The feeling ultimately is one of processing, acceptance and healing of ones dark/shadow and being able to see our partners for who they truly are. That was the lesson for the man.

I have been given messages before journeying that rocked and upset me greatly and strong reactions that resulted in heavy journeying into hells of my own disdain, hatred, rigid mind and opinion.

The hells of my own creation, not anyone elses (we are each 100% responsible for where we are). Aya with Mr. Wilde and Mr. Krepcik are meant to show us our ways/hells. We won't learn personal responsibilty otherwise. Sending one into their hell to process that which each individual needs at their particular stage in their journey, is an act of love and care. And then sometimes we are sent (or pulled into) other hells that do not belong to us and we learn not to interfere. We learn not to judge and react. We learn discernment and love and compassion and reverence.

To be a teacher who does nothing other than tell the student what they wish to hear is not a teacher, it does not serve the student.

Stuart is perceived as "going dark" because his teachings have shifted since the morph wars, i.e. breaking through to the otherside he made a pact with the Gaia. Anyone remember chicken on the string? He watched and processed his shadow and nearly it killed him, the ghouls try to stop him. It's a constant battle.

He is suffering and in hell because he is able to fight in those worlds and it's his calling he needed to answer. My sister and I went through stages of hating the man, blaming and making him the scape goat. And then the lesson on personal responsibility finally landed. If I hadn't gone through it myself (hells) I'd never truly find the sad child inside and asymmetry in my own life in order to help myself and others.

The teachings are love, honor, warmth, honesty, humilty, softness.... in order to get there and to be true within oneself, one must look at the ugly aspects first.

And that is why he says few make it. It's just too easy to do "lazy". To the person who received a message from Tom before journeying, that was a sophisticated metaphysical teaching for you. Consider yourself blessed to have received it. It helped you look at your girlfriend's shadow.

And just because SW says someone is dark does not condemn the person. Many are dark, it's not to focus and dwell in the shadow. It's a lesson on accepting, admitting to.

Not trying to change anyones mind here, just offering a contrasting perspective.

!Brainwash Alarm!

100 Percent (!) brainwashed.

I was wondering when the first drones start to come in. Here we go.

The above is obviously from someone who is deep in the group as you can tell from their deeply brainwashed ramblings.
The words she/he uses, the parroting of KK's and SW's bullshit "teachings" straight out of the Redeemers Club manual, complete with unsolicited advice (assuming to "know"), major arrogance (the initiated ones, "know a thing or two"), while at the same time parroting their fake spiritual values like humbleness, while showing the opposite. This is just classic. lol

Talking about humbleness while showing major arrogance is fuckin funny.

Justifying their actions with "it all was a teaching", makes it very easy for Stuart to go for anything fuck-worthy and destroy relationship after the other, while his helpers lie and lie to divert the attention away from him.

This is how they fucking brainwashed you. Good job, Stuart! Another mind and heartless drone created by you. :)

Been there, done that.

Completely brainwashed.

One day you might wake up and you'll be in for a nice surprise. I highly doubt it though, you bought it hook, line and sinker and it takes some serious spiritual will and heart to let it all go once you see that something is major wrong.


For people reading this, who were not in this group, This is how they train people to see the world. Do you see the major arrogance starting in the first sentence, the unsolicited advice "this was a lesson for you" and the elitism ("only a few will make it") all cloaked in the BS of parroting values like "humbleness" and "I don't want to change anybodys mind, I just want to offer a different (brainwashed) perspective."

Your post is such a great example of their twisted shit.

Nice display, thanks for stepping in.