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Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???

 
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Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
Very strange, especially as people recently have been found to actually have blue blood.

Is the royal line actually a line of people with blue blood?

Does Bush and co. and Clinton and those related to them actually have blue blood?

Would explain the reptilian aspect.
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Inbreeding leads to thinner skin, with less pigment, and then your blood appears to be blue. You skin also takes on a "blueish" hue.
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that eat drink from SILVER ware - so there turn abit blooooo
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
Inbreeding leads to thinner skin, with less pigment, and then your blood appears to be blue. You skin also takes on a "blueish" hue.
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Are we whites inbred as a race then? Since we have thinner skin than black people.

It's a sincere question from my side, it makes sense.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
Inbreeding leads to thinner skin, with less pigment, and then your blood appears to be blue. You skin also takes on a "blueish" hue.


Are we whites inbred as a race then? Since we have thinner skin than black people.

It's a sincere question from my side, it makes sense.
 Quoting: Yahweh

Not on the whole, no "whites" are not inbred. In fact, in the USA, at least, this is very true. I am not sure where you get "blacks" have thicker skin than "whites", I have never read that to be true on average.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
High copper content. Reptilian.
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Inbreeding leads to thinner skin, with less pigment, and then your blood appears to be blue. You skin also takes on a "blueish" hue.
 Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja


While this may be true, there have been reports of people actually HAVING blue blood.
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Blacks, Arabs, and hispanics are just as "inbred" as whites are. Like how Muslims REGULARLY marry their cousins, and is a common social practice, in the middle east and in Muslim families in the West. Why don't you hear constant jokes about inbred Arabs then?

European whites rarely marry their cousins, despite all of the Southern redneck jokes. It's not part of European culture. It happens, but it's not THE NORM like it is with Muslims.

Also, the elite/royal European families aren't really "inbred" either, since they would often intermarry between the royal families of various countries who were genetically diverse, and common, non-royal women would constantly be taken as wives. As opposed to, again, Muslim society, where marriage between cousins is more common than non-related marriage. In fact, I read an article recently about birth defect problems with the Muslim population in England, due to all the cousin marriages. And English doctors were pleading with Muslims families NOT to marry their cousins, due to all the deformed babies being born, with various health problems. You would NEVER see inbreeding to that extent in any white society, anywhere on Earth.

So where are all the "inbred Muslim" jokes? Surely they should be common by now.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
Very strange, especially as people recently have been found to actually have blue blood.

Is the royal line actually a line of people with blue blood?

Does Bush and co. and Clinton and those related to them actually have blue blood?

Would explain the reptilian aspect.
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Blue blood is an English expression recorded since 1834 for noble birth or descent; it is a translation of the Spanish phrase sangre azul, which described the Spanish royal family and other high nobility who claimed to be 'pure', free of Moorish or Jewish blood, being of Visigothic descent. There is no connection between the phrase and the actual blood color of nobility; however, in the ancient agricultural societies of Europe the whole upper class had superficial veins that might be more visible and appear bluish by comparison to the rest of the pale-pinkish skin, as the skin itself was not tanned. In contrast with the working class of the time (mainly peasants), nobility and in general upper class people did not have to work outdoors, and mostly lived sheltered from the sun by dwellings and attire.


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"Robert Lacey explains the genesis of the blue blood concept: "It was the Spaniards who gave the world the notion that an aristocrat's blood is not red but blue. The Spanish nobility started taking shape around the ninth century in classic military fashion, occupying land as warriors on horseback. They were to continue the process for more than five hundred years, clawing back sections of the peninsula from its Moorish occupiers, and a nobleman demonstrated his pedigree by holding up his sword arm to display the filigree of blue-blooded veins beneath his pale skin—proof that his birth had not been contaminated by the dark-skinned enemy. (Robert Lacey, Aristocrats. Little, Brown and Company, 1983, p. 67)"
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
Blacks, Arabs, and hispanics are just as "inbred" as whites are. Like how Muslims REGULARLY marry their cousins, and is a common social practice, in the middle east and in Muslim families in the West. Why don't you hear constant jokes about inbred Arabs then?

European whites rarely marry their cousins, despite all of the Southern redneck jokes. It's not part of European culture. It happens, but it's not THE NORM like it is with Muslims.

Also, the elite/royal European families aren't really "inbred" either, since they would often intermarry between the royal families of various countries who were genetically diverse, and common, non-royal women would constantly be taken as wives. As opposed to, again, Muslim society, where marriage between cousins is more common than non-related marriage. In fact, I read an article recently about birth defect problems with the Muslim population in England, due to all the cousin marriages. And English doctors were pleading with Muslims families NOT to marry their cousins, due to all the deformed babies being born, with various health problems. You would NEVER see inbreeding to that extent in any white society, anywhere on Earth.

So where all are all "inbred Muslim" jokes? Surely they should be common by now.
 Quoting: Dispositioner

That is not true entirely.
Yes, blacks, arabs and hispanics, especially in third world areas, might "inbreed".

You suggested that this is not true of Europeans.
That is not true.

Look at the racial statistics in most European countries, they tend to be 90 percent or higher of one race. This would not be possible without some level of inbreeding.

Again, this tends not to be true of "Americans" of European descent.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
That too, you spend all day inside, especially if you are in the upper northern hemisphere, you will not have much pigment in your skin.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
That is not true entirely.
Yes, blacks, arabs and hispanics, especially in third world areas, might "inbreed".

You suggested that this is not true of Europeans.
That is not true.

Look at the racial statistics in most European countries, they tend to be 90 percent or higher of one race. This would not be possible without some level of inbreeding.

Again, this tends not to be true of "Americans" of European descent.
 Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja


I said it happens with white Europeans as well, but it's rare. In homogeneous white populations in Europe, like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, etc, 98 percent of the population might be the same ethnicity, but that doesn't mean that they are all inbred and marry their family members. On the contrary, cousin marriages are LOOKED DOWN UPON in these societies, and rarely happen. My family is Polish, and I've visited there plenty of times, everyone is the same ethnicity in Poland, but no one marries their cousins. It would be an absurd concept, and would attract ridicule or worse. On the other hand, cousin marriages are ENCOURAGED in Muslim countries, and families are HAPPY to arrange marriages between cousins, whether in the middle east, or in the West.

So again, the concept of European whites being inbred is silly, considering that it's one of the few cultures where cousin marriages are HIGHLY looked down upon. Everyone else seems to think that marrying within your own family is an honorable thing to do, and aspire to. It's funny how whites, the ONE race that does not make it a habit to marry within their own family, is the race that is accused of being "inbred" the most.
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I It's funny how whites, the ONE race that does not make it a habit to marry within their own family, is the race that is accused of being "inbred" the most.
 Quoting: Dispositioner

In Europe, I imagine, that has a lot to do with "royalty".
In the USA, it has a lot to do with the past in places like West Virginia and Kentucky. Not very common anymore.
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it´s cold. they are stiff.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
BLUE BLOODS

There were the blue-bloods of Ancient Times which extended into European Times. . They actually did have blue blood, and it was not hemoglobin based but copper based. They were semi-human. There are still to this day, some animal species in South America that have copper based blood systems. There was a problem with hemophilia, and not because of intermarrying. The problem was that they started to marry outside of the copper based blood system. Hemoglobin and copper systems don't mix. That's where the laws against marrying commoners originated.
Lobsters, octopuses, squids and horseshoe crabs have copper based blue blood

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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
What of India's Hindis dipicting many of their gods with blue skin? Is there something we don't understand about that?
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My Aunt did a family tree and traced my blood all the way back to Queen Elizabeth.
Does this mean that I am a reptilian? LOL.

Please also understand that if I am, I want to scream.

To think that is why I think I was raised with a superior attitude and to think that I am better than most people.

I hate the way people think they are so much better.
I have been brainwashed.

That show last night on the Queen made me want to puke. She actually thinks she is better than everyone in this world! Wrong! Those guys that drive her around probably say, here comes the old bag! I wonder if she ever carries anything in that little black bag she always shows off?
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there was a news story just a few months ago about a guy who cut himself and actually had blue blood. I think it was from canada.

i cant find it now.

it DOES exist.
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From: Online etymology Dictionary
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blue blood
1834, translating Sp. sangre azul, claimed by certain families of Castile as uncontaminated by Moorish or Jewish admixture, probably from the notion of the visible veins of people of fair complexion.
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there was a news story just a few months ago about a guy who cut himself and actually had blue blood. I think it was from canada.

i cant find it now.

it DOES exist.
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A small article in the news doesn't make it reality.
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What of India's Hindis dipicting many of their gods with blue skin? Is there something we don't understand about that?
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Great question!
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Rh negative or rhesus monkey negative
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
BLUE BLOODS

There were the blue-bloods of Ancient Times which extended into European Times. . They actually did have blue blood, and it was not hemoglobin based but copper based. They were semi-human. There are still to this day, some animal species in South America that have copper based blood systems. There was a problem with hemophilia, and not because of intermarrying. The problem was that they started to marry outside of the copper based blood system. Hemoglobin and copper systems don't mix. That's where the laws against marrying commoners originated.
Lobsters, octopuses, squids and horseshoe crabs have copper based blue blood

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 374566


Nobles used marriage to gain more power, marrying a commoner didn't increase the power of the family hence it wasn't common.

Although it did happen.

What families according to you would have had this "copper based blood"?
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What of India's Hindis dipicting many of their gods with blue skin? Is there something we don't understand about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 369480


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Vishnu is depicted with a blue skin. The colour blue symbolises the infinite expansion of the blue sky and the blue ocean. Vishnu holds a conch or sankha which symbolises sounds of creation. In another hand, he holds the cakra or the wheel of time. Sometimes the cakra is called Sudarsana Cakra. "Su" means good and "darshan" means vision. This signifies that when a devotee looks towards God with a sense of surrender, God will turn towards him. Thus the cakra is a weapon with a mission to destroy ego and grant "darshan".


So it is because of symbolism.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
They actually did have blue blood, and it was not hemoglobin based but copper based.
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lol

what a stupid thing that is!
Blood can't be 'copper based' since copper DO NOT CARRY OXYGEN!
Even if they were 'copper based', they would still need Hemoglobin! The difference would be that their hemoglobin would be copper based and not Iron based. But that does not make sense anyway, since it's the Iron Ion on the hemoglobin molecule, that allows it to carry the O2.

"The iron ion, which is the site of oxygen binding, bonds with the four nitrogens in the center of the ring, which all lie in one plane."
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It was because of Argyria caused by consumption of silver nitrates based on their silverware (cutlery).

The Big Pharma like to confuse Colloidal Silver with silver nitrates in the hope that people will be too stupid to understand, or too lazy to research the difference and hence not use the greatest natural antibiotic and only working antiviral available. This is because Big Pharma cannot patent colloidal silver.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
Very strange, especially as people recently have been found to actually have blue blood.

Is the royal line actually a line of people with blue blood?

Does Bush and co. and Clinton and those related to them actually have blue blood?

Would explain the reptilian aspect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385221



All blood is blue when it's in the vein.
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Re: Why do they call royal blood "blue blood"???
They actually did have blue blood, and it was not hemoglobin based but copper based.


lol

what a stupid thing that is!
Blood can't be 'copper based' since copper DO NOT CARRY OXYGEN!
Even if they were 'copper based', they would still need Hemoglobin! The difference would be that their hemoglobin would be copper based and not Iron based. But that does not make sense anyway, since it's the Iron Ion on the hemoglobin molecule, that allows it to carry the O2.

"The iron ion, which is the site of oxygen binding, bonds with the four nitrogens in the center of the ring, which all lie in one plane."
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Hemocyanin

The blood of most molluscs, including cephalopods and gastropods, as well as some arthropods such as horseshoe crabs contains the copper-containing protein hemocyanin at concentrations of about 50 grams per litre.[18] Hemocyanin is colourless when deoxygenated and dark blue when oxygenated. The blood in the circulation of these creatures, which generally live in cold environments with low oxygen tensions, is grey-white to pale yellow,[18] and it turns dark blue when exposed to the oxygen in the air, as seen when they bleed.[18] This is due to change in color of hemocyanin when is it oxidized.[18] Hemocyanin carries oxygen in extracellular fluid, which is in contrast to the intracellular oxygen transport in mammals by hemoglobin in RBCs.[18]




There is a sort blue blood but you won't find it in humans.
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It was because of Argyria caused by consumption of silver nitrates based on their silverware (cutlery).

The Big Pharma like to confuse Colloidal Silver with silver nitrates in the hope that people will be too stupid to understand, or too lazy to research the difference and hence not use the greatest natural antibiotic and only working antiviral available. This is because Big Pharma cannot patent colloidal silver.
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Right on!
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