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Ancient Hebrew Petraglyphs Here In America

 
Kahlshi
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I hope you all find this as fascinating and intriguing as I do. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of these ancient rock writings-hebrew inscriptions- in the deserts and mountains of our beautiful country. This new website has just begun....much, much more is coming and more photographs will be added as they are discovered.

[link to gdrocks.org]
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Thank you for the link, Kahlshi!
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There was a recent thread, can't remember exactly, that asked if there was anything 'worthy' or something like that written in stone. After viewing the archeological finds in NM, I'd say so!
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THanks Kahlshi and Dr.P for the information. I truly believe Hebrew is God's pure language. I'm fascinated by the archaeological findings in this country. So much to learn, so little time??? Blessings hf
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THanks Kahlshi and Dr.P for the information. I truly believe Hebrew is God's pure language. I'm fascinated by the archaeological findings in this country. So much to learn, so little time??? Blessings hf
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Oh..btw...that kitty cat is so precious. Is it yours Kahlshi? She/he (has to be a girl?) has such sad eyes. I have four cats. My Angel is all a white long hair w/blue eyes, pink ears, nose and paws. She's half Persian, but her face isn't as flat. Her brother Mocha is a big orange tabby....go figure. Then I have Snugs and Scuba;another Tabby and a tough little black female. They're my kids...can you tell? Be blessed. hf
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That's very fascinating and I don't doubt that the ancient Greeks and Phoenicians may have visited this continent thousands of years ago but the kdrocks site just smells of hoax and a slick money making project. Yes I'm being skeptical, hence my name...but what's up with selling the actual stones with writing for a mere $500. If these were real they would be priceless! Not to mention that the writing doesn't appear to be 2000 years old but maybe 2 years old at the most. It's too fresh and white.

Maybe I'm wrong. Please prove this to me cause I want to believe it.
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That's very fascinating and I don't doubt that the ancient Greeks and Phoenicians may have visited this continent thousands of years ago but the kdrocks site just smells of hoax and a slick money making project. Yes I'm being skeptical, hence my name...but what's up with selling the actual stones with writing for a mere $500. If these were real they would be priceless! Not to mention that the writing doesn't appear to be 2000 years old but maybe 2 years old at the most. It's too fresh and white.

Maybe I'm wrong. Please prove this to me cause I want to believe it.
 Quoting: Skeptical Believer

You're not wrong.

I loved the bit about integrating the zodiac with the ancient Hebrew script...because the zodiac constellations that we know come from the Greeks, who lived long after this supposed "alphabet" was written down.

Oh... and the 10 commandments are not recognized as special by the Jews. According to them, there are 613 commandments:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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the zodiac constellations that we know come from the Greeks, who lived long after this supposed "alphabet" was written down.

Oh... and the 10 commandments are not recognized as special by the Jews. According to them, there are 613 commandments:

The Jews (Judah- Judea- Judaic) all are as having come back from the Babylonian captivity, having that Calendar. The Greek Alphabet from the Phoenicians came from the Hebrews of Proto Sinaitic then Paleo-Hebrew.
The Zodiac we have from the Greeks likewise was held Semitic before, but only the names bear out this Alphabetic connection. Gemini=Ghimel/Gamma, Leo+Hey/Epsilon and Vawv, etc. and sometimes as with CAPricorn=Samech/Sampri-Ayin/Omicron-Pe/Phi they're less obvious -but still there!

Awesome pics on that gdrocks.org site, I'm glad that this is available to the public, and that it's even made into copies for those who cannot directly go there!
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The Jewish 613 Commandments of Torah (guidance, instruction) aren't THE COVENANT of THE 10 MATTERS most cherished as the Ark of Agreement carried by the 12 tribes of Israel!
Most Jewish people in modern Judea ("israel") are respective of the 7 given Noah! And most Christians sum up the Commandments in a word LOVE
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Interesting article. My guess is he worked in the Grand Canyon and got into some kind of conflict and had to flee from there to that location.

You can go to this link for the story on the ancient stuff there. It seems there are certain places in the Grand Canyon that are off limits to the public. Wonder why? LOL

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That networks entrance cave on the east side is a very difficult access being about 1,000 feet from the Canyon rim and still about 2,000 feet above the Colorado river at the infamous Quagunt Rapids in Marble canyon. The Pharaoh interred there is known from the record, his expedition was a cooperative with the Indus and Phoenicians. The Site in NM is not connected with this, nor is the La Junta CO Site which has the oldest post-Exodus Hebrew petroglyphs besides those there in the area of the real Sinai in NW Arabia's Hijaz range.
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The Anasazi ('old ones') and Mound Builders were of the exile 10 tribes is what we're finding, Hebrew translates the Aztec and Toltec languages, and the mounds have only yielded Hebrew artifacts. This was their land of promise, and in history has been the land to match the description!
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Interesting link. Thanks.

It deepens the other info I've read about Hebrew petraglyphs.
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You need to read Dan Eden's story.

[link to www.mondovista.com]
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Anyone familiar with Barry Fell's admittedly controversial America BC [link to www.amazon.com]
would realize that a case can be made for possible Phoenician excursion into the Americas, given that the Carthaginians explored Africa in the 5th century BC.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

However, I haven't seen any research on this neo-carthaginian-nilotic-hebraic script, and tend to think that most of the stuff on the website is just a way to scam some money.

If there are any serious paleo-linguistic scholars and dating experts who have attempted to correlate and date these inscriptions, I'd certainly like to hear about it.

I have never seen these inscriptions (although I have visited Las Lunas) but I know that here in the southwest, one way to date possible incisions into volcanic andesite, basalt, etc. (but not tufa) is to look for desert varnish. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Since desert varnish typically takes about a millennium to develop and adhere, seeing any inscriptions without desert varnish is a quick rule-of-thumb to say that the inscriptions are less than a thousand years old.
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..but what's up with selling the actual stones with writing for a mere $500. If these were real they would be priceless! Not to mention that the writing doesn't appear to be 2000 years old but maybe 2 years old at the most. It's too fresh and white.

Maybe I'm wrong. Please prove this to me cause I want to believe it.



Hey Skep...you missed something important.....the inscribed stones this site is offering those who donate are remakes, done exact to original as possible. It states this quite clearly in the right side columb where they explain these stone. They are honest men, seeking to offer up this information and bring it forth for all those who are interested.....asking for donations is something necessary to assist them with their work. No need to be skeptical, but you are wise to always be....that is a sign of wisdom. Mediators and judges have that quality, and because of it can know the full story.
I have on hand here on my desk actual photos taken by one of these men. I assure you, they are legit.
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Sorry all, that post above was in referrence to another post, (first part) with my input (second part). Just forgote to do the 'quote' thing.
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There was a recent thread, can't remember exactly, that asked if there was anything 'worthy' or something like that written in stone. After viewing the archeological finds in NM, I'd say so!
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That was Guide Service - I have his thread bookmarked Ill let him know
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Phoenicians where traders and sailors if I remember correctly. How did one get all the way to New Mexico or the Grand Canyon.
Thats a hell of a trek.
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Yes it must have been a hard trek...maybe the landscape was different then, I dunno.
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Yes it must have been a hard trek...maybe the landscape was different then, I dunno.
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There hasn't been much change in the climate of Arizona since the early Holocene, about 15,000 years ago.
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Paleo Hebrew is the oldest and purest form of Hebrew. It is the Hebrew of King David - the love language from before the captivity - the harshness of which is reflected in the present day language which evolved from that...

[link to yahshvah.com]

It is also alpha numeric and the numbers had as much significance as the letters - even more so and are the key to understanding who the Beast is...

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:18

More about that later....

There is debate about the stones in the states.


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I hope you all find this as fascinating and intriguing as I do. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of these ancient rock writings-hebrew inscriptions- in the deserts and mountains of our beautiful country. This new website has just begun....much, much more is coming and more photographs will be added as they are discovered.

[link to gdrocks.org]
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Bullshit...

You are just a freakin Mormon, who can't accept the proof that native Americans did NOT decend from the Hebrew people.
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I think that there is a very logical and rational answqer to this and I am most certainly not a Moromon.... (a little word jumble reveals nom romo or name-rome the wrong spirit to be sure!)

As I mentioned in my last post, the Paleo (Phoenician) Hebrew is the Hebrew of King David and is the language which the Old Testament is written - it is called the language of light.
The Jew were made the repositories of the Truth which was recorded in what they call the Tanakh, and what we call the Old Testament. But God has TWO books - the written Word, and the book of Nature. I believe that the Jew were the guardians of the written Word, while the Native Americans were the guardians of the book of Nature...the truth is, God can be found in both for those who seek Him with all their heart, even with the corruptions of men who have used their own interpretations, and not the interpretation of the Great Spirit
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The Decalogue stone was found on the land of the great Huning family, descendants of the successful merchant Franz Huning.
Franz had emigrated to New Mexico from Germany in 1849. He worked as a cowboy along the Santa Fe Trail until he settled in Albuquerque.
In 1880, the same year the railroad arrived, Franz Huning invested in real estate (gaining a land grant which included the "Mystery Mtn." and environs, after inquiring with the land office a dusty cowpoke having been shown the "Mystery Stone" by a local tribesman while with the RR nearby who said it pre-dated the arrival of the tribes here) and he operated a flour mill while starting his Highland Addition east of the railroad between Copper and Lead in addition to his downtown mercantile store, becoming a very wealthy man. He lived in a mansion on a street named after himself in an eccentric miniature castle like the ones he left behind in Germany.
The Huning Ranch lands sign is the first thing you see headin outa town West, and his family's restaurants are well known.
When his Grandson first saw the stone in 1930 as he reported later at a very old age; "It was 2/3rds covered in Lichen and half buried in a drift of concreted dirt"

The first 2 millenia or so were "great" to it, the next 2 centuries were "good" (just not much recognition) then the last 2 decades saw it's exposure by the media and it was "fair" (getting well noticed by a few scholarlies removing a few pieces and at least by several writers and fringe), but the last 2 years have been dis-satisfactorily "poor" as it has been struck a repeated blow by vandalism.

www.gdrocks.org

What you see is having been covered in roofing Tar and scrubbed with solvent using wire-brushes, and been bashed badly with a pick-axe.

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