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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you also bring up the correct point...the trees. The main variable of their demise was due to deforestation that led to among many other problems...crop failures, famine, disease, overpopulation, relocation, lost wars, etc...etc... Quoting: Super Athiest 370569So if they can witness an event they also claim to make a calculation from said event. They even made a calendar and gave a specific date. So my opinion they appear to be very good with certain numbers only or they still seriously flunked some of their math. Right! Are we any different today? Imo, We are doing the same things, but we can accurately predict that Asteroid Apophis is on a collision course with earth in 2036. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense where our priorities are. We gag at gnats, and swallow horses. So we know by our standards Apophis is a threat. We continue to hover our hands over the potential of suicide, and the destruction of our own civilization. We don't differ from the Mayan civilization in my opinion. But for intense purposes I know you are drawing comparison of us to the Mayan and I had already commented in general what I thought about history always repeating itself, repeating with slight changes or repeating new. When I say repeating new I mean basically happening again with major changes via it be good or bad. But in contrast we are not the Mayan, it's not our calender, it's not our 2012 prediction. Expert and laymen can agree and concur with the available data but I don't think it makes that particular issue any more viable. And I never said it didn't hurt to keep an event plan prepped in back up mode given the unpredictability of the day and age in which we live. Perhaps only this day and age we now have the knowledge and ability to do so. I still say we need more data to make 2012 more concrete. Right you are, It's not our calander, nor prediction. In using the law of cause and effect we can come to the conclusion that "events" in Science have lined up with the calendar nicely. Frankly, we not talking about cavemen etching symbols in stone walls here. I somehow doubt Nasa read up on the Sun stone and decided to play along. I mean we could chalk up the end of the 26,000 year cycle, and Solar max as coincidence, but in my opinion we would be throwing good info out the window? More data would be great, but really, how much more would make it concrete? anything specific you can think of? I sometimes wonder if there is more data out there. Nasa just last month sent scientists out to Mayan ruins (I will find the article). I feel strongly they are searching as hard as we are. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 80 percent of us wont make it to 2011 Quoting: Razrinqoute me on that source?? intuition i wish it wasnt telling this but it is...... There is no "us" in Survivors. Those who have survived the spiritual hurricanes in the past will survive the next ones. Sink or swim, fly or die. Fantastic thread & replies. -Razrin Thanks Razrin, Long time no see bro, how goes it? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 80 percent of us wont make it to 2011 Quoting: Razrinqoute me on that source?? intuition i wish it wasnt telling this but it is...... There is no "us" in Survivors. Those who have survived the spiritual hurricanes in the past will survive the next ones. Sink or swim, fly or die. Fantastic thread & replies. -Razrin Thanks Razrin, Long time no see bro, how goes it? Hey bro. Life has been treating me very goooood. You should post more threads dude, your jedi writing skill has improved hahaha. I am getting a bit better at this writing thing..lol. It's good to hear you are well. Peace, |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Nasa, Mayan article. Now why would Nasa (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) send their Deputy Administrator Shana Dale and NASA Research Scientist Dr. William Saturno investigate the San Bartolo Maya archaeological site? It's my opinion they have a vested interest in 2012, but no need to overstate the obvious. NASA Investigates the San Bartolo Mayan Ruins: NASA’s Deputy Administrator Shana Dale and NASA Research Scientist Dr. William Saturno investigate the San Bartolo Maya archaeological site in Peten, Guatemala, Tuesday Dec. 11, 2007. NASA’s remote sensing data were used to locate and interpret the remains of the ancient Maya civilization. (PRNewsFoto/NASA, Bill Ingalls) These images show the Peten region of Guatemala, where NASA has used remote sensing data to locate remains of the ancient Maya Civilization. The top image was from a helicopter Dec. 11, just above the site and illustrates how dense the foliage is. The center image was created by NASA using satellite data, used to help locate the sites. The bottom shows an overlay of structures found using the remote sensing data. For more information about NASA and agency programs, visit: nasa.gov. (PRNewsFoto/NASA, Bill Ingalls) Images and rest of article at links. [link to mystrangeblog.com] [link to weather.msfc.nasa.gov] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | your absolutely right why would nasa visit that sight very strange indeed this is interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393382I thought it was too. Now about this seed vault thing...Let's start doing some math. Nasa says a dust cloud will be entering our Solar system in 2000 and will peak in 2012. Next we have a rare solar maximum peaking in 2012. Logically the dust cloud will amplify heat and cause "global warming". Still with me? Now we have a seed vault "just in case" Oh did I mention the article that came out last month saying: The Arctic Glacier is exponentially melting and will be gone in 2012? Let me get that article as well. Not to mention all this falls in line with a very rare alignment with the galactic center and our earth will complete a 26,000 year cycle. And last in my thoughts this morning is the fact the good old mother earth is also do for a pole shift, But that will take a deeper look. Seed 'doomsday vault' comes to life: By Pierre-Henry Deshayes in Longyearbyen, Norway February 25, 2008 08:54am AN Arctic "doomsday vault" filled with samples of the world's most important seeds will be inaugurated in Norway today. The vault aims to provide humankind with a Noah's Ark of food in the event of a global catastrophe. European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and Nobel Peace Prize winning environmentalist Wangari Matai will be among the personalities present at the inauguration of the vault, which has been carved into the permafrost of a remote Arctic mountain, just 1000km from the North Pole. The vault, made up of three spacious cold chambers each measuring 27m by 10m, creates a long trident-shaped tunnel bored into the sandstone and limestone. It has the capacity to hold up to 4.5 million batches of seeds from all known varieties of the planet's main food crops, making it possible to re-establish plants if they disappear from their natural environment or are obliterated by major disasters. "The facility is built to hold twice as many varieties of agricultural crops as we think exist,'' explained Cary Fowler, executive director of the Global Crop Diversity Trust and project mastermind. "It will not be filled up in my lifetime, nor in my grandchildren's lifetime,'' he predicted. Norway has assumed the €6 million ($9.6m) charge for building the vault in its Arctic archipelago of Svalbard, where ironically no crops grow. Secured behind an airlock door, the three airtight chambers have the capacity to house duplicates of samples from all the world's more than 1400 existing seed banks. Many of the more vulnerable seed banks have begun contributing to the "doomsday vault'' collection, but some of the world's biodiversity has already disappeared, with gene vaults in both Iraq and Afghanistan destroyed by war and a seed bank in the Philippines annihilated by a typhoon. By the time of the inauguration, the Svalbard Global Seed Vault should hold some 250,000 samples, which will remain the property of their countries of origin. Pakistan and Kenya, both undergoing periods of serious unrest, have sent seed collections, while samples sent from Colombia have been closely scrutinised by police to avoid the project becoming a vehicle for drug trafficking. "I've been working in this field for 30 years and I thought I knew at least all the crops,'' Mr Fowler said. After receiving a list of all the different seeds in the vault, however, "I must admit there are a number of crops I've never heard of before", he said. That's a spectacular amount of diversity for Svalbard, where no trees can grow due to the permafrost and where the mercury plummets to an average 14C below zero in winter. The Norwegian archipelago, which is home to some 2300 people, was selected not despite but because of its inhospitable climate, as well as its remote location far from civil strife. The seeds of wheat, maize, oats and other crops will be stored at a constant temperature of minus 18C Celsius, and even if the freezer system fails the permafrost will ensure that temperatures never rise above 3.5C below freezing. "Svalbard really met all the criteria,'' Mr Fowler said. Protected by high walls of fortified concrete, an armoured door, a sensor alarm and the native polar bears that roam the region, the "doomsday vault'' has been built 130m above current sea level - high enough that it would not flood if the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets melt entirely due to global warming. The concrete cocoon has also been built to withstand nuclear missile attacks or a plunging plane, something that could come in handy in light of the 6.4-scale tremor - the biggest earthquake in Norway's history - registered near the archipelago on Thursday. [link to www.news.com.au] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393382 Nice one. The many facets of 2012. When you start researching, the convergence becomes endless. Peace, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 393382 United Kingdom 03/16/2008 06:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you watch the horizon project as we enter the galactic plane we get to a dense part where there is alot of asteroids,comets and this is where the ancients have said where they spotted what people call planet x,its probably because all the debris has been pulled in cause of the force of the black hole in the galactic centre. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you watch the horizon project as we enter the galactic plane we get to a dense part where there is alot of asteroids,comets and this is where the ancients have said where they spotted what people call planet x,its probably because all the debris has been pulled in cause of the force of the black hole in the galactic centre. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393382Yes indeed! or the dust cloud. On the first page, I think the third post down is a official release. I have more to add on the subject as well. I think we are seeing the increase of the bigger debri too. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems probably that px is actually a huge comet that all comes along for the ride with us to the galactic plane as well as asteroids and metorites,interesting to here more on the dust cloud. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393382It could well be. If I'm not mistaken, in the PX scenario it is also accompanied by a dust cloud. It not a strong point in my own research. Nasa recently discovered a Brown dwarf that really fits the bill, IMO. It was even dubbed "Our suns Twin" I have that article around here somewhere as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 333480 United States 03/16/2008 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dimensional shifting process: We are experiencing the close of a cycle that started 200,000 years ago. At the close of this cycle, we will experience a unique event. To successfully process through that unique event, we must be as balanced as as healed as we can be. That healing process, or the opportunity for healing is what everyone is experiencing right now, as experiences that have been stored non-harmonically are rising to the surface in order to be readdressed. The decrease in the ambient magnetic field theoretically gives us greater access to those experiences. When we examine ancient architecture, like the pyramids, that functioned as tuned resonant chambers, we see that they needed those chambers in order to access some of these levels inside themselves. With what is going on right now, we can have access to these levels without the necessity of using these structures. The Earth itself is providing access to the process. These ancient tuned chambers generated a higher frequency, and those inside would undergo changes as their cellular structure underwent a resonant matching process. This decrease in the magnetic field to the zero-point has happened at least 14 times before, according to the geological record. Field levels drop geometrically, not linearly. The field strength decrease accelerates as it moves towards the end of the process. In the past, it appears that the magnetic field decreased quite rapidly until it reached zero. The zero-point is where interesting things happen. We have more people living on Earth right now than at any time in conscious human memory. No doubt, most of those people have chosen to come here at this time to experience this unique event. The magnetic fields of Earth are primarily a function of rotation of the planet. The higher the rotation rate, the higher the field density. Earth is rotating slower. In 1992, the atomic clocks at the Bureau of Standards in Colorado had to be reset and recalibrated twice. When you look at ancient texts, there are descriptions of times "when the Earth stood Still", "when the Stars stood still", "when the Moon became blood-red", "when plants grew out of season", etc. There are also Native American traditions in which it states that "the Earth stood still" and "the Sun rose and set twice in the same day". These anomalous events are quite common in the past. What we see here is the Earths rotation slowing and coming to a complete stop for a period of time. It will then begin to rotate again in the opposite direction, which will produce a 180 degree shift in the magnetic polarity. This is the mechanism for Earth’s polar magnetic reversals that we have seen evidence of 14 times in the past The period of time where Earth ceases its rotation averages about 3.5 days. Earth begins then to rotate in the opposite direction, generates new polar magnetic regions, and begins to vibrate much differently. That difference in vibration is a key to the process that we are experiencing right now. There is a Biblical term referenced in ancient texts that is very difficult to use without getting into a "religious" discussion. This term has absolutely nothing to do with religion. It is a term to describe moving in vibrational terms, consciously, from one vibrational pattern and experience and into another one. That term is resurrection. Resurrection is nothing more than consciously vibrating from one dimensional state-space into another dimensional state-space. That is the goal of this natural process, in human and planetary terms. When one does this consciously, they become immortal or resurrected beings. Literature is filled to capacity with references to Initiates, whether they are Egyptians, Essenes, the Nacaal mystery schools or other orders involved in processes of this nature. They are all working toward the same goal. That goal is the perfection of the human form and the attainment of a state-space demonstrated by master Avatars — the most recent of which was the Universal Christ, named Joshua Ben Joseph or Jesus. Jesus demonstrated a 3-day period in which he underwent a healing process, from which he emerged expressing his nature as a higher dimensional being. Others could not touch him because of the nature of his vibratory rate. This, of course, is not unlike the 3-day process experienced in the pyramids in Egypt, or the process that is being lived right now on Earth The Human Energy System and the Process:............... [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333480 Hi 333480, Nice points. I actually have read a bit on the correlation of the longest night, and the longest day. The earthquake and tsunami of 2004 slowed the earths rotation a bit. It was minor compared to what a complete stoppage of rotation would be like. Great flood? 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake was an undersea earthquake that occurred at 00:58:53 UTC December 26, 2004, with an epicentre off the west coast of Sumatra, Indonesia. The earthquake triggered a series of devastating tsunamis along the coasts of most landmasses bordering the Indian Ocean, killing more than 225,000 people in eleven countries, and inundating coastal communities with waves up to 30 meters (100 feet). It was one of the deadliest natural disasters in history. Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India, and Thailand were hardest hit. With a magnitude of between 9.1 and 9.3, it is the second largest earthquake ever recorded on a seismograph. This earthquake had the longest duration of faulting ever observed, between 8.3 and 10 minutes. It caused the entire planet to vibrate as much as 1 cm (0.5 inches)[1] and triggered other earthquakes as far away as Alaska.[2] The disaster is known by the scientific community as the Great Sumatra-Andaman earthquake,[3] and is also known as the Asian Tsunami and the Boxing Day Tsunami. The tsunami occurred exactly one year after the 2003 Bam earthquake and exactly two years before the 2006 Hengchun earthquake. The plight of the many affected people and countries prompted a widespread humanitarian response. In all, the worldwide community donated more than $7 billion (2004 U.S. dollars) in humanitarian aid. Rest at link: [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 333480 United States 03/16/2008 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dimensional shifting process: Quoting: Phoenix 2012[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] Hi 333480, Nice points. I actually have read a bit on the correlation of the longest night, and the longest day. The earthquake and tsunami of 2004 slowed the earths rotation a bit. It was minor compared to what a complete stoppage of rotation would be like. Great flood? 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake was an undersea earthquake that occurred at 00:58:53 UTC December 26, 2004, with an epicentre off the west coast of Sumatra, Indonesia. The earthquake triggered a series of devastating tsunamis along the coasts of most landmasses bordering the Indian Ocean, killing more than 225,000 people in eleven countries, and inundating coastal communities with waves up to 30 meters (100 feet). It was one of the deadliest natural disasters in history. Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India, and Thailand were hardest hit. With a magnitude of between 9.1 and 9.3, it is the second largest earthquake ever recorded on a seismograph. This earthquake had the longest duration of faulting ever observed, between 8.3 and 10 minutes. It caused the entire planet to vibrate as much as 1 cm (0.5 inches)[1] and triggered other earthquakes as far away as Alaska.[2] The disaster is known by the scientific community as the Great Sumatra-Andaman earthquake,[3] and is also known as the Asian Tsunami and the Boxing Day Tsunami. The tsunami occurred exactly one year after the 2003 Bam earthquake and exactly two years before the 2006 Hengchun earthquake. The plight of the many affected people and countries prompted a widespread humanitarian response. In all, the worldwide community donated more than $7 billion (2004 U.S. dollars) in humanitarian aid. Rest at link: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Hi Phoenix: "The shift of mass and the massive release of energy very slightly altered the Earth's rotation. The exact amount is not yet known, but theoretical models suggest the earthquake shortened the length of a day by 2.68 microseconds" Although earth rotates every 24 hours, clouds and the motion of earth’s crust will make any given day slightly longer or shorter; the diameter of the earth decreased as a result of a shift in tectonic plates, the speed of the earth as it rotates around its own axis would increase. I wonder, what size earthquake or quakes would it take to reverse the eaths rotation. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dimensional shifting process: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333480[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] Hi 333480, Nice points. I actually have read a bit on the correlation of the longest night, and the longest day. The earthquake and tsunami of 2004 slowed the earths rotation a bit. It was minor compared to what a complete stoppage of rotation would be like. Great flood? 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake was an undersea earthquake that occurred at 00:58:53 UTC December 26, 2004, with an epicentre off the west coast of Sumatra, Indonesia. The earthquake triggered a series of devastating tsunamis along the coasts of most landmasses bordering the Indian Ocean, killing more than 225,000 people in eleven countries, and inundating coastal communities with waves up to 30 meters (100 feet). It was one of the deadliest natural disasters in history. Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India, and Thailand were hardest hit. With a magnitude of between 9.1 and 9.3, it is the second largest earthquake ever recorded on a seismograph. This earthquake had the longest duration of faulting ever observed, between 8.3 and 10 minutes. It caused the entire planet to vibrate as much as 1 cm (0.5 inches)[1] and triggered other earthquakes as far away as Alaska.[2] The disaster is known by the scientific community as the Great Sumatra-Andaman earthquake,[3] and is also known as the Asian Tsunami and the Boxing Day Tsunami. The tsunami occurred exactly one year after the 2003 Bam earthquake and exactly two years before the 2006 Hengchun earthquake. The plight of the many affected people and countries prompted a widespread humanitarian response. In all, the worldwide community donated more than $7 billion (2004 U.S. dollars) in humanitarian aid. Rest at link: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Hi Phoenix: "The shift of mass and the massive release of energy very slightly altered the Earth's rotation. The exact amount is not yet known, but theoretical models suggest the earthquake shortened the length of a day by 2.68 microseconds" Although earth rotates every 24 hours, clouds and the motion of earth’s crust will make any given day slightly longer or shorter; the diameter of the earth decreased as a result of a shift in tectonic plates, the speed of the earth as it rotates around its own axis would increase. I wonder, what size earthquake or quakes would it take to reverse the earths rotation. Hello 333480, Thanks for the figures. I was thinking a bit more in reverse. I wasn't clear in my last post. I was thinking more along the lines of Event, Earthquakes, Shift. Does that sound right? I mean the entire ring of fire could go off, along with every major fault, and it wouldn't have enough force to create a reverse rotation. The only thing that comes to mind is zero point as we rise into the galactic plane, and oddly enough the 26,000 year wobble completes it's cycle at the same time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 333480 United States 03/16/2008 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dimensional shifting process: Quoting: Phoenix 2012[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] Hi 333480, Nice points. I actually have read a bit on the correlation of the longest night, and the longest day. The earthquake and tsunami of 2004 slowed the earths rotation a bit. It was minor compared to what a complete stoppage of rotation would be like. Great flood? 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake was an undersea earthquake that occurred at 00:58:53 UTC December 26, 2004, with an epicentre off the west coast of Sumatra, Indonesia. The earthquake triggered a series of devastating tsunamis along the coasts of most landmasses bordering the Indian Ocean, killing more than 225,000 people in eleven countries, and inundating coastal communities with waves up to 30 meters (100 feet). It was one of the deadliest natural disasters in history. Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India, and Thailand were hardest hit. With a magnitude of between 9.1 and 9.3, it is the second largest earthquake ever recorded on a seismograph. This earthquake had the longest duration of faulting ever observed, between 8.3 and 10 minutes. It caused the entire planet to vibrate as much as 1 cm (0.5 inches)[1] and triggered other earthquakes as far away as Alaska.[2] The disaster is known by the scientific community as the Great Sumatra-Andaman earthquake,[3] and is also known as the Asian Tsunami and the Boxing Day Tsunami. The tsunami occurred exactly one year after the 2003 Bam earthquake and exactly two years before the 2006 Hengchun earthquake. The plight of the many affected people and countries prompted a widespread humanitarian response. In all, the worldwide community donated more than $7 billion (2004 U.S. dollars) in humanitarian aid. Rest at link: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Hi Phoenix: "The shift of mass and the massive release of energy very slightly altered the Earth's rotation. The exact amount is not yet known, but theoretical models suggest the earthquake shortened the length of a day by 2.68 microseconds" Although earth rotates every 24 hours, clouds and the motion of earth’s crust will make any given day slightly longer or shorter; the diameter of the earth decreased as a result of a shift in tectonic plates, the speed of the earth as it rotates around its own axis would increase. I wonder, what size earthquake or quakes would it take to reverse the earths rotation. Hello 333480, Thanks for the figures. I was thinking a bit more in reverse. I wasn't clear in my last post. I was thinking more along the lines of Event, Earthquakes, Shift. Does that sound right? I mean the entire ring of fire could go off, along with every major fault, and it wouldn't have enough force to create a reverse rotation. The only thing that comes to mind is zero point as we rise into the galactic plane, and oddly enough the 26,000 wobble completes it's cycle at the same time. You are right, the trigger is "the massive release of energy", we migh have a set of events in the coming future, weather be earthquakes, volcanos..etc that will create a reverse rotation. I also think we are to see a "race" war errupting soon... |
meras User ID: 392715 United Kingdom 03/16/2008 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC333480 I have been pointing out on this forum that plants have been flowering out of season - now these are photoperiodic plants which regulate their life cycles by day-length not temperature:- [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Lotus Feet User ID: 299977 United Kingdom 03/16/2008 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC333480 I have been pointing out on this forum that plants have been flowering out of season - now these are photoperiodic plants which regulate their life cycles by day-length not temperature:- [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: meras 392715And people are just like fields of flowers. Some grow like weeds and some grow like roses through the thorns. Sunflowers are beautiful too. And the Lord said that all of the weeds will be pulled up, all the flowers that his father did not plant will be pulled up during the end times of the end of the age. Lotus i love satan |
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Lotus Feet User ID: 299977 United Kingdom 03/16/2008 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hosea 10:4 They make many promises, take false oaths and make agreements; therefore lawsuits spring up like poisonous weeds in a plowed field. Zephaniah 2:9 Therefore, as surely as I live," declares the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, "surely Moab will become like Sodom, the Ammonites like Gomorrah— a place of weeds and salt pits, a wasteland forever. The remnant of my people will plunder them; the survivors of my nation will inherit their land." The Parable of the Weeds Matthew 13:23-30 23But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and understands it. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown." 24Jesus told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 25But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. 27"The owner's servants came to him and said, 'Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?' 28" 'An enemy did this,' he replied. "The servants asked him, 'Do you want us to go and pull them up?' 29" 'No,' he answered, 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' " Lotus i love satan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 333480 United States 03/16/2008 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC333480 I have been pointing out on this forum that plants have been flowering out of season - now these are photoperiodic plants which regulate their life cycles by day-length not temperature:- [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: meras 392715Yes, I have noticed that in my own garden; the earth rotation is responsible for the annual changes in the height of the Sun above the horizon. I have a feeling we have not been told how much the earth's rotation has been alterer. |
meras User ID: 392715 United Kingdom 03/16/2008 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC333480 I have been pointing out on this forum that plants have been flowering out of season - now these are photoperiodic plants which regulate their life cycles by day-length not temperature:- [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333480Yes, I have noticed that in my own garden; the earth rotation is responsible for the annual changes in the height of the Sun above the horizon. I have a feeling we have not been told how much the earth's rotation has been alterer. Needless to say I have been keeping a careful watch on the sunrise and sunset times (as much as I can living in a cloudy and rainy country). The sun is rising and setting as per the data given by the meterological office. However it seems that the nights are now no longer completely dark and a reddish background light is visible. Also on a sunny day the sky blue has pigments of red in it. I wonder if this is the additional light that the plants are registering? |
Lotus Feet User ID: 299977 United Kingdom 03/16/2008 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And people are just like fields of flowers. Some grow like weeds and some grow like roses through the thorns. Sunflowers are beautiful too. And the Lord said that all of the weeds will be pulled up, all the flowers that his father did not plant will be pulled up during the end times of the end of the age. Quoting: Lotus FeetLotus The Parable of the Weeds Explained 36Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, "Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field." 37He answered, "The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. 40"As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear. Lotus i love satan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 393382 United Kingdom 03/16/2008 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is very strange to. [link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
Super Athiest User ID: 329649 United States 03/16/2008 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you also bring up the correct point...the trees. The main variable of their demise was due to deforestation that led to among many other problems...crop failures, famine, disease, overpopulation, relocation, lost wars, etc...etc... Quoting: Phoenix 2012So if they can witness an event they also claim to make a calculation from said event. They even made a calendar and gave a specific date. So my opinion they appear to be very good with certain numbers only or they still seriously flunked some of their math. Right! Are we any different today? Imo, We are doing the same things, but we can accurately predict that Asteroid Apophis is on a collision course with earth in 2036. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense where our priorities are. We gag at gnats, and swallow horses. So we know by our standards Apophis is a threat. We continue to hover our hands over the potential of suicide, and the destruction of our own civilization. We don't differ from the Mayan civilization in my opinion. But for intense purposes I know you are drawing comparison of us to the Mayan and I had already commented in general what I thought about history always repeating itself, repeating with slight changes or repeating new. When I say repeating new I mean basically happening again with major changes via it be good or bad. But in contrast we are not the Mayan, it's not our calender, it's not our 2012 prediction. Expert and laymen can agree and concur with the available data but I don't think it makes that particular issue any more viable. And I never said it didn't hurt to keep an event plan prepped in back up mode given the unpredictability of the day and age in which we live. Perhaps only this day and age we now have the knowledge and ability to do so. I still say we need more data to make 2012 more concrete. Right you are, It's not our calander, nor prediction. In using the law of cause and effect we can come to the conclusion that "events" in Science have lined up with the calendar nicely. Frankly, we not talking about cavemen etching symbols in stone walls here. I somehow doubt Nasa read up on the Sun stone and decided to play along. I mean we could chalk up the end of the 26,000 year cycle, and Solar max as coincidence, but in my opinion we would be throwing good info out the window? More data would be great, but really, how much more would make it concrete? anything specific you can think of? I sometimes wonder if there is more data out there. Nasa just last month sent scientists out to Mayan ruins (I will find the article). I feel strongly they are searching as hard as we are. Well data suggesting they witnessed this particular celestial event you suggest they might. But that's a lot of suggestion. lol They are flawed and we are flawed that still doesn't make them correct on the issue. Science is always being corrected and so are the margins of error just like the 26,000 year cycle and solar max. The Mayan data still appears too weak on 2012 and what events in science have lined up with any calendar so nicely? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 319912 United States 03/16/2008 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.truveo.com] Quoting: Phoenix 2012[link to www.thehorizonproject.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Hello 392717, Thanks for the great links. The Horizon project is a personal favorite. Peace, Somebody had posted the entire video here in a past thread.. Thread: The Horizon Project - Bracing For Tomorrow a little heavy-handed and I have problems with some of the claims..but good video overall. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 355646 United States 03/16/2008 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are right, the trigger is "the massive release of energy", we migh have a set of events in the coming future, weather be earthquakes, volcanos..etc that will create a reverse rotation. I also think we are to see a "race" war errupting soon... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333480Hi 333480, The massive release of energy indeed, Yin and Yang turning faster, and faster. In my opinion our past current and future wars are just a inner reflection of what we are dealing with on a personal level. The spiritual aspect of 2012 is a fascinating subject. No matter what belief structure we choose it seems they all point to a time of big change. The Mayan calendar is most fitting in it's merging of three parts to make a whole, with a ultimate conclusion. I see it in every facet of personal belief systems. The consciousness project is well underway. The Late Ian Lungold has amazing information on the merging and exponential growth of consciousness. One thing I find interesting in his vids was his idea of creating your own reality, but he never left off the idea we will be dealing with some very dramatic earth changes. Peace, |