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Does the original text says he gets hurt, or that he just suffer an accident?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Obama accident before 27th


Murdoch
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So it doesn't say anything about Obama getting hurt, only mentions an accident. So, any kind of accident, may fullfill the prophecy and will be one more confirmation that this is the fuse year. Does anyone agree?
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I agree ... some sort of Obama accident would fit the bill and make me think this is the right year


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Not to rule out it could be his wife or family too.... it doesn't directly say Barack


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Any Obama accident that is news worthy will do.
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helo orangeray3
elders say many difrent dangers near 27 october
obama in danger near 27 october
money danger near 27 october
sun danger near 27 october

date importante

some efect cosmosonicboom here already
me think other efect wil come from behind sun 2 u but me not sure this directions
when sun go orange ful efect cosmosonicboom arive ok
me must ask elders other question ok

Is this bold part referencing comet ISON? With all the references to Oct 27 it made me think about ISON as this year it swings around the sun a month after this date.

"Astronomers are excited about a sungrazing comet discovered late in 2012. Around the time of its perihelion – or closest approach to the sun – on November 28, 2013,"

[link to earthsky.org]
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Obama must be hurt today or tomorrow or this thread is officially debunked.
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Does the original text says he gets hurt, or that he just suffer an accident?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Obama accident before 27th


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It just says before... Has Obama had any type of Accident since 2008?
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We all caught this one, right?

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

It is all falling together in a very hinky way...
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maybe this: Thread: Officials Found Guilty in Obama, Clinton Ballot Petition Fraud - Obama 534 w/ 90 Forged Sigs - Need at Least 500- HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH! that could cause some pain.
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We all caught this one, right?

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

It is all falling together in a very hinky way...
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Yep. The LHC is shut down for a upgrade and will be back up and running in 2015. So no LHC doom until 2015
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Does the original text says he gets hurt, or that he just suffer an accident?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Obama accident before 27th


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 Quoting: Howling mad murdoch


So it doesn't say anything about Obama getting hurt, only mentions an accident. So, any kind of accident, may fullfill the prophecy and will be one more confirmation that this is the fuse year. Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU



I agree ... some sort of Obama accident would fit the bill and make me think this is the right year


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The ricin letter sent to Obama could already be interpreted as an accident, I guess. But nothing happened with him, so maybe not.
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Obama accident & brown cheat ?
Thread: Officials Found Guilty in Obama, Clinton Ballot Petition Fraud - Obama 534 w/ 90 Forged Sigs - Need at Least 500- HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH! (Page 2)
"Just as you may have been born into a religion, so was Jesus. Like many peep, he looked *outside* that structured belief system for answers; the result of that became his teachings. Those original teachings were edited out of what you think of as the Bible. That which didn't scare people did not serve the church & its agenda"
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My feeling is that we have only had one or two good solid hits, the rest seem like a reach, trying to get events to fit the predictions that do fit, but don't really feel like they were what the entity was talking about. (the 17th for example.) I'm thinking that we may indeed be in a time line running parallel to the entities target time line, but not the actual line. Maybe some things like Thatchers death happen the same way across every time line? Maybe our proximity to the target time line may cause some syncronicity, explaining why we get some hits but not all? I don't know, I don't know how these things work, just a thought.
I'm going to link this again and encourage people to read it. If this is indeed the correct line and the fuse year, I don't think this entity has our best interests at heart, at the very least this is a good read, I learned a lot. (Jump to chapter 4 for relevance if you like.)
[link to www.nostrajewellery.org]
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We all caught this one, right?

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

It is all falling together in a very hinky way...
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Yep. The LHC is shut down for a upgrade and will be back up and running in 2015. So no LHC doom until 2015
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You REALLY think we would know whether CERN was active or not? Or that we would know ANYTHING about what they are doing at CERN?

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What if these 'prophecies' come true?

Are the CH*NI 'believers' seriously contemplating taking their own lives in order to ascend to 'the next level of existence', before Earth as we know it is renewed back to 0000?

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of these people, they have been duped into believing this utter nonsense, which has been backed by some supposedly very credible people.

I sincerely hope they realise in time that this is not real, and do not end up suiciding on May 15th.
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My feeling is that we have only had one or two good solid hits, the rest seem like a reach, trying to get events to fit the predictions that do fit, but don't really feel like they were what the entity was talking about. (the 17th for example.) I'm thinking that we may indeed be in a time line running parallel to the entities target time line, but not the actual line. Maybe some things like Thatchers death happen the same way across every time line? Maybe our proximity to the target time line may cause some syncronicity, explaining why we get some hits but not all? I don't know, I don't know how these things work, just a thought.
I'm going to link this again and encourage people to read it. If this is indeed the correct line and the fuse year, I don't think this entity has our best interests at heart, at the very least this is a good read, I learned a lot. (Jump to chapter 4 for relevance if you like.)
[link to www.nostrajewellery.org]
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Good Summary. If the hits were cleaner, at least we could prepare with a bit more confidence. But as of now its just sort of a wait and see hodge-podge.
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What if these 'prophecies' come true?

Are the CH*NI 'believers' seriously contemplating taking their own lives in order to ascend to 'the next level of existence', before Earth as we know it is renewed back to 0000?

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of these people, they have been duped into believing this utter nonsense, which has been backed by some supposedly very credible people.

I sincerely hope they realise in time that this is not real, and do not end up suiciding on May 15th.
 Quoting: Pudding


drama

C'mon man, we're just genuinely interested in the original OP message and the CHANI Project pdf. There's nothing dangerous about this thread, just like nobody commited suicide in the 21th of december.

Just relax!

People take this shit too seriously... how many threads have been debunked already? Let's just wait until the 15th may. If Mandela, Sharon, old Bush and the other guys that are supposed to die don't, this thread is bust.
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What if these 'prophecies' come true?

Are the CH*NI 'believers' seriously contemplating taking their own lives in order to ascend to 'the next level of existence', before Earth as we know it is renewed back to 0000?

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of these people, they have been duped into believing this utter nonsense, which has been backed by some supposedly very credible people.

I sincerely hope they realise in time that this is not real, and do not end up suiciding on May 15th.
 Quoting: Pudding


I've read all of what The Entity posted in 2008 and almost none afterwards, so I'm not sure what was said at that point, but...at NO TIME did I ever feel that The Entity was implying that one had to kill oneself in order to ascend! In fact, what he said was you make the choice (never said you kill yourself) and those that make the choice, simply ...disappear. Kinda ala Rapture, I guess (but I don't believe that rapture crap)
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My feeling is that we have only had one or two good solid hits, the rest seem like a reach, trying to get events to fit the predictions that do fit, but don't really feel like they were what the entity was talking about. (the 17th for example.) I'm thinking that we may indeed be in a time line running parallel to the entities target time line, but not the actual line. Maybe some things like Thatchers death happen the same way across every time line? Maybe our proximity to the target time line may cause some syncronicity, explaining why we get some hits but not all? I don't know, I don't know how these things work, just a thought.
I'm going to link this again and encourage people to read it. If this is indeed the correct line and the fuse year, I don't think this entity has our best interests at heart, at the very least this is a good read, I learned a lot. (Jump to chapter 4 for relevance if you like.)
[link to www.nostrajewellery.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38701496


More than 2. Tatcher, cosmic boon 9th january, 'watch the pope', 'watch the dolphins', naming Obama back in 2008 before he was the democrat candidate, etc. And almost everything is happening now, in 2013.
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Sorry for the third post in a row, but the 15th may is not the end date. If you read all messages post by the entity, you cand find some warnings about september, if I'm not mistaken. Or october. So 15th may is not CHANI apocalipse, either.
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What if these 'prophecies' come true?

Are the CH*NI 'believers' seriously contemplating taking their own lives in order to ascend to 'the next level of existence', before Earth as we know it is renewed back to 0000?

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of these people, they have been duped into believing this utter nonsense, which has been backed by some supposedly very credible people.

I sincerely hope they realise in time that this is not real, and do not end up suiciding on May 15th.
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lmao They won't don't worry, we will all be here to support them.
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Any Obama accident that is news worthy will do.
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what about the fake twitter post that said he was hurt in the white house this week that caused the market to drop
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salut...

excusez-moi...i speak english ++++pire/bad que chani...

i am à relire pour la 2ième fois chani et je vous donne des infos..it.s o.k.

je ne veux pas envahir le fil mais je donne la matière!

chani for my it is good spirit,info ect.

bonne lecture,amitié à tous ,vous ètes formidable!

s.v.p. pas de drapaux parce que je parle français,beaucoup d,heures de travail,je vous donne!merci.
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Obama must be hurt today or tomorrow or this thread is officially debunked.
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Does the original text says he gets hurt, or that he just suffer an accident?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Obama accident before 27th


Murdoch
 Quoting: Howling mad murdoch


So it doesn't say anything about Obama getting hurt, only mentions an accident. So, any kind of accident, may fullfill the prophecy and will be one more confirmation that this is the fuse year. Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


I think that if Obama is hurt in any way we will NOT be told about it. As hard as he tries to keep us in the dark about the truth...he will not allow us to know if this comes true.
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Obama accident does not necessarily mean he will get injured.
Maybe a mistake he made.

Maybe the boston bombings that allowed his connection with Saudi Arabia.... maybe??
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If "any accident" will do...

...What about last Tuesday's "accident" Twitter post about 2 bombings in the White House and that Obama was injured? A quick google reveals not only did this happen, but the stock market experienced a flash-crash as a direct result of it.

OOOPS!

How's that for an accident with Obama?
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If "any accident" will do...

...What about last Tuesday's "accident" Twitter post about 2 bombings in the White House and that Obama was injured? A quick google reveals not only did this happen, but the stock market experienced a flash-crash as a direct result of it.

OOOPS!

How's that for an accident with Obama?
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"...but he get beter" == "AP was hacked and it didn't really happen"
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What if these 'prophecies' come true?

Are the CH*NI 'believers' seriously contemplating taking their own lives in order to ascend to 'the next level of existence', before Earth as we know it is renewed back to 0000?

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of these people, they have been duped into believing this utter nonsense, which has been backed by some supposedly very credible people.

I sincerely hope they realise in time that this is not real, and do not end up suiciding on May 15th.
 Quoting: Pudding


drama

C'mon man, we're just genuinely interested in the original OP message and the CHANI Project pdf. There's nothing dangerous about this thread, just like nobody commited suicide in the 21th of december.

Just relax!

People take this shit too seriously... how many threads have been debunked already? Let's just wait until the 15th may. If Mandela, Sharon, old Bush and the other guys that are supposed to die don't, this thread is bust.
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What if these 'prophecies' come true?

Are the CH*NI 'believers' seriously contemplating taking their own lives in order to ascend to 'the next level of existence', before Earth as we know it is renewed back to 0000?

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of these people, they have been duped into believing this utter nonsense, which has been backed by some supposedly very credible people.

I sincerely hope they realise in time that this is not real, and do not end up suiciding on May 15th.
 Quoting: Pudding


I've read all of what The Entity posted in 2008 and almost none afterwards, so I'm not sure what was said at that point, but...at NO TIME did I ever feel that The Entity was implying that one had to kill oneself in order to ascend! In fact, what he said was you make the choice (never said you kill yourself) and those that make the choice, simply ...disappear. Kinda ala Rapture, I guess (but I don't believe that rapture crap)
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I happened upon the CH@NI project website by accident, when I joined I was under the impression it was a general conspiracy forum, after joining their teamspeak and getting to know the characters there, I felt welcomed in. After a few weeks of getting to know them, they pointed me to the CH@NI and BEZERK material, which I spent a good few hours/days reading through. Once I had finished, I had what I felt was a good understanding and feel for the storylines. I was then filled in verbally with many answers to questions which arose.

I was asked forthright by Acolyte what I thought of the CH@NI and the BEZERK material. Being me, and being always skeptical of anything I haven't experienced for myself, I said "It's a good story, but until I experience any of these things in real life, then for me it's just good sci-fi".

That's when it all broke down. Suddenly any free speech I had was severely moderated, I was being attacked by random "unknowns" who joined their forums that very day. I was cautioned many times for defending myself, which I had to (the mods weren't helping). In teamspeak there was much back biting, many accusations, silly attempts at mind games, and eventually I was banned outright.

Of course I then had time to reflect on the situation. I realised that it's Acolytes forum, he can ban whoever he likes, for whatever reason he likes. One thing that struck me afterwards though, was how two faced the group became, lots of "oh I'm on your side totally" but when push came to shove and in front of Acolyte, they would be all up his arse as usual, it was kind of spooky the control he had over them. NexusEditor was another 'leader' there. When he entered teamspeak it would be like the buddha himself just walked in, everyone shut up, and some even would start recording (which prompted the rest of us to shut up too), as if he was about to spout something holy and profound which would change the course of history. It never did.

It's all very odd. They, them, the group, attempt to relate anything and everything to CH@NI and BEZERK, as if it's proven evidence of those stories being true. "Oh a dolphin is in the news, I'd better check what the Entity said about dolphins!".

It's all quite bizarre to be honest, and when you take away the prophecy factor of the CH@NI material, what you are left with is essentially the same as the Heavens Gate suicide cult. Earth being renewed, ascension guaranteed for believers, blah blah.

Now I know for a fact that RAND employed Acolyte to release these materials to the public, and RAND conduct psychological studies using these and other forums, utilising a 'tool' like Acolyte to do their dirty work. That's what this is, it's a mind control experiment, RAND invented a truly unbelievable story and gave it to Acolyte to present to the 'fringe element' because normal mind control does NOT work on you lot. It could turn out to be a very dangerous experiment.

Of course Acolyte now thinks he's the next Joseph Smith, or Marshall Applewhite or whoever, but that's just the side effect of having so many gullible people falling for your every word.

Anyway, I just hope people realise this cult for what it is, and don't do anything stupid.


Peace off.
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What if these 'prophecies' come true?

Are the CH*NI 'believers' seriously contemplating taking their own lives in order to ascend to 'the next level of existence', before Earth as we know it is renewed back to 0000?

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of these people, they have been duped into believing this utter nonsense, which has been backed by some supposedly very credible people.

I sincerely hope they realise in time that this is not real, and do not end up suiciding on May 15th.
 Quoting: Pudding


drama

C'mon man, we're just genuinely interested in the original OP message and the CHANI Project pdf. There's nothing dangerous about this thread, just like nobody commited suicide in the 21th of december.

Just relax!

People take this shit too seriously... how many threads have been debunked already? Let's just wait until the 15th may. If Mandela, Sharon, old Bush and the other guys that are supposed to die don't, this thread is bust.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38888530


What if these 'prophecies' come true?

Are the CH*NI 'believers' seriously contemplating taking their own lives in order to ascend to 'the next level of existence', before Earth as we know it is renewed back to 0000?

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of these people, they have been duped into believing this utter nonsense, which has been backed by some supposedly very credible people.

I sincerely hope they realise in time that this is not real, and do not end up suiciding on May 15th.
 Quoting: Pudding


I've read all of what The Entity posted in 2008 and almost none afterwards, so I'm not sure what was said at that point, but...at NO TIME did I ever feel that The Entity was implying that one had to kill oneself in order to ascend! In fact, what he said was you make the choice (never said you kill yourself) and those that make the choice, simply ...disappear. Kinda ala Rapture, I guess (but I don't believe that rapture crap)
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I happened upon the CH@NI project website by accident, when I joined I was under the impression it was a general conspiracy forum, after joining their teamspeak and getting to know the characters there, I felt welcomed in. After a few weeks of getting to know them, they pointed me to the CH@NI and BEZERK material, which I spent a good few hours/days reading through. Once I had finished, I had what I felt was a good understanding and feel for the storylines. I was then filled in verbally with many answers to questions which arose.

I was asked forthright by Acolyte what I thought of the CH@NI and the BEZERK material. Being me, and being always skeptical of anything I haven't experienced for myself, I said "It's a good story, but until I experience any of these things in real life, then for me it's just good sci-fi".

That's when it all broke down. Suddenly any free speech I had was severely moderated, I was being attacked by random "unknowns" who joined their forums that very day. I was cautioned many times for defending myself, which I had to (the mods weren't helping). In teamspeak there was much back biting, many accusations, silly attempts at mind games, and eventually I was banned outright.

Of course I then had time to reflect on the situation. I realised that it's Acolytes forum, he can ban whoever he likes, for whatever reason he likes. One thing that struck me afterwards though, was how two faced the group became, lots of "oh I'm on your side totally" but when push came to shove and in front of Acolyte, they would be all up his arse as usual, it was kind of spooky the control he had over them. NexusEditor was another 'leader' there. When he entered teamspeak it would be like the buddha himself just walked in, everyone shut up, and some even would start recording (which prompted the rest of us to shut up too), as if he was about to spout something holy and profound which would change the course of history. It never did.

It's all very odd. They, them, the group, attempt to relate anything and everything to CH@NI and BEZERK, as if it's proven evidence of those stories being true. "Oh a dolphin is in the news, I'd better check what the Entity said about dolphins!".

It's all quite bizarre to be honest, and when you take away the prophecy factor of the CH@NI material, what you are left with is essentially the same as the Heavens Gate suicide cult. Earth being renewed, ascension guaranteed for believers, blah blah.

Now I know for a fact that RAND employed Acolyte to release these materials to the public, and RAND conduct psychological studies using these and other forums, utilising a 'tool' like Acolyte to do their dirty work. That's what this is, it's a mind control experiment, RAND invented a truly unbelievable story and gave it to Acolyte to present to the 'fringe element' because normal mind control does NOT work on you lot. It could turn out to be a very dangerous experiment.

Of course Acolyte now thinks he's the next Joseph Smith, or Marshall Applewhite or whoever, but that's just the side effect of having so many gullible people falling for your every word.

Anyway, I just hope people realise this cult for what it is, and don't do anything stupid.


Peace off.
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Well, I myself am not aware of this cult and don't personally known acolyte and just came by this thread and read the CHANI pdf, finding it all very interesting. By may 15th it will be probably over, at least for me. I mean, the entity specifically named people that will demise. It either has to happen or I will call this thread bullshit. Still, I find it amazing how some predictions hit almost spot on (like Tatcher stroke and cosmic boom on 9th january).
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Thatcher had a stroke in 2002, I think it was. The entity did not specify 'Thatcher Demise' like he did with the others.

Supernovas happen all the time, sometimes many times a day.
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I think most of us just find this sort of thing fascinating, and don't particularly jump on board with any of it.

I tried to register with Acolyte's forum, and it said registration was closed ... I wonder what that's about?

Acolyte was honest about whom he worked for -- and if you know anything about that company and others like it, you'll know not to take anything without a grain of salt. That said, some of the most interesting material comes out of places like that, too. (Y'll know who I mean.)

So, color me interested still -- and wary too.

China and Russia in the news right now, which lines up with what the "entity" said -- I'm not writing this off as b.s. just yet....
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"Acolyte was honest"

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04/27/2013 03:45 AM
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Re: me tel u now so u belive me 15 may
Obama must be hurt today or tomorrow or this thread is officially debunked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33469929


Does the original text says he gets hurt, or that he just suffer an accident?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Obama accident before 27th


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 Quoting: Howling mad murdoch


So it doesn't say anything about Obama getting hurt, only mentions an accident. So, any kind of accident, may fullfill the prophecy and will be one more confirmation that this is the fuse year. Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Agreed!

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