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The Twin Flame Reunion

 
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....and they ascend to the realm of dreams.
todays earth horoscope has this love thing in it.


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Found this on a search, so hello everyone.

It's quite interesting. I have neither soulmates nor twin flame. I wonder if it is possible to be complete such that one is more or less a hermit?

Either that or I have met my twin flame and just refuse to admit it.
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I have been married for 10 years and am very happy, but throughout the years there has been a man who out of nowhere pops into to one of my many lucid dreams. He and I feel so much love between us. the only thing that i know about him is he wears glasses, his birthday is the same as mine ( august 1st). Anyway, the feeling is indescribable, and thought i love my husband i think about this man from time to time and wonder...
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When I met my partner for the first time I was blown away by the feelings we shared. The depth, shared empathy, the complete understanding of one another in a split second.Its very hard to describe. He and I lived 4000 miles apart and being seperated was agony..it felt like a death to be away from him, he felt exactly the same pain in seperation. It wasnt "practical" for either of us to move where the other was so we tried to just let it go..hoping the intensity would lessen but to our surprise it only grew stronger and more unbearable to be seperated. So, we both had to make some very hard choices and sacrifices to be together and the "consequences" of those choices are still felt by us both, but that is NOTHING compared to the agony of seperation..I do not expect anyone to understand this, no one does..they see us as sad and co-dependent..but there is a connection between us that is not something I can explain. We have sacrificed EVERYTHING we had in the world to be together and never regretted it for one single moment.It is something that simply had to be!
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Most of it is true, and much more that is hard to explain, only after you living it you will know.


Now, how is that Plato know this 2500 years ago?

I can only say that maybe he have live it.


Imagine, 7500km distance, the chance to met each other was litle, but that litle was enough to make it possible.

I do know what is twin flames, i have found mine 10 years ago, we have to leave our lives as we have live it and start from 0, like a new live.






This part is soo real that it blow my mind after i read it.

"and one will not be out of the other’s sight even for a moment.”

i have pass this for more than one month,,, 15 seconds without see the other person and it was soo bad, like i was about to die, with time i have learn how to deal with it, i don´t have words to explain it.


Live and love are strange and interesting
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I RESENTLY MOVED AND MEET MY NEIGHBOR AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT EACH OTHER IT WAS LIKE WE KNEW EACH OTHER FROM THE START
WE CAN READ EACH OTHERS MIND AND EVERY THING FITS, WE DO HAVE OBSTICALES BUT ITS LIKE WE ARE MAGNETS DRAWN TO EACH OTHER, WE TRIED TO MAKE A BREAK FROM ONE ANOTHER, BUT THE PULL IS TOO STRONG, WE HURT IN THE CORE OF OUR BEING, AND BECAME VERY UNBALANCED, UNTILL WE CAME BACK TOGETHER, HE KNOWS THE CORE OF MY BEING, AND I KNOW HIS, WE BOTH GOT FREAKED OUT BY THIS, AND I WAS THE ONE WHO RAN FIRST, BUT WE WERE STILL TOGETHER, AS HE PUT IT WE ARE IN EACH OTHERS HEAD AND TATOOED TO EACH OTHERS HEARTS, ITS LIKE WE ARE ONE BUT SEPARATE. IF I THINK ABOUT CALLING HIM, HE CALLS. WE ARE GREAT FRIENDS THAT FEEL WE WILL NEVER PART, AND WE BOTH SEE OTHER PEOPLE, BUT NEITHER ONE OF US CAN MAKE A CONNECTION TO THESE OTHER PEOPLE, NOTHING SEEMS TO FIT WITH THEM. WE ARE BOTH IN OUR LATE 40'S AND I KNOW HE IS MY TIWN SOUL, IM IN A HIGHER PLAN THAN HE IS, SO THIS IS OUR OBSTICALE.


TWIN,

The fact that you met, recognised, and both know is very spectacular to put it mildly. It is rare that twins meet to begin with, so the obstacles seem mild, in some cases, compared to not meeting them at all!

I will post this again for you, something I wrote for the book I am now writing about twin souls, and it is about hurting to the core of your being that you speak of.

"It is a rare occasion in this lifetime that you meet your same soul counterpart; your twin-half; the other element of you, who in unison, was created at the instant of all soul design. In life, when this bond is recognized by two individuals, there exists a strength within that may risks all existing commitments, and two counterpart spirits can become so self-absorbed by each other that they can often cast aside any lifestyle they are currently living, wishing to only to return to the unison recognized and remembered within one another. This is very difficult urge to ignore because once you have met your soul counterpart, your twin flame, being a part from one another at any level is heartbreaking to both your spirit and the very core of your being."

Anita Billi ©

Does this sound like what you two are going through?

-Afterlife
 Quoting: Afterlife


There are only four days left to take the expanded version of the twin flame poll. If you have not yet taken the poll, or took the first one but not the second, you can go to the following link to participate. You can also see what other twin souls have said about their relationships.

Even if you do not believe in the twin soul concept, you will be helping by saying so!

Twin Flame Poll: [link to afterlifefromabove.blogspot.com]

You will find this poll located at the bottom left of this site.

Thanks to everyone interested!

-Afterlife
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Found this on a search, so hello everyone.

It's quite interesting. I have neither soulmates nor twin flame. I wonder if it is possible to be complete such that one is more or less a hermit?

Either that or I have met my twin flame and just refuse to admit it.
 Quoting: I am the Doctor


Hello Doctor,

I am curious what your choice of words were when you found this site in a search. This tells me you have not found your twin but are ready.

I feel that yes, you can be and are complete without knowing of your twin soul. This is a prerequisite for meeting them, I feel, to feel complete in yourself, so, “yes” to your question.

Many people have not yet met their twin in this lifetime and are just realising that this concept now means something to them. When they get further into it, they will see that their twin has been along their side all along.

-Afterlife
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Most of it is true, and much more that is hard to explain, only after you living it you will know.


Now, how is that Plato know this 2500 years ago?

I can only say that maybe he have live it.


Imagine, 7500km distance, the chance to met each other was litle, but that litle was enough to make it possible.

I do know what is twin flames, i have found mine 10 years ago, we have to leave our lives as we have live it and start from 0, like a new live.






This part is soo real that it blow my mind after i read it.

"and one will not be out of the other’s sight even for a moment.”

i have pass this for more than one month,,, 15 seconds without see the other person and it was soo bad, like i was about to die, with time i have learn how to deal with it, i don´t have words to explain it.


Live and love are strange and interesting
 Quoting: THE OTHER ANGLE 393318


I understand your feelings, and one might say that it is a co-dependent kind of relationship, but I assure you, and many can attest to this, that it not co-dependency. It is quite the opposite. So why the missing do you think? I am curious and interested in other views for those who are now “missing” their twin soul.

-Afterlife
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Well I've heard that twin flames cannot be incarnated at the the same time. You can only be together when you are both in spirit.



That certainly explains my predicament.

thnx.
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Mine also. My twin flame is 25 years my junior, I'm female and he's male. It is what it is. Flames unite.
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Well I've heard that twin flames cannot be incarnated at the the same time. You can only be together when you are both in spirit.



That certainly explains my predicament.

thnx.

Mine also. My twin flame is 25 years my junior, I'm female and he's male. It is what it is. Flames unite.
 Quoting: Unity 229303



Twin flames can and are experiencing being incarnated at the same time, and any age difference seems to not have any influence on meeting, especially for those who understand that time does not exist. If time does not exist, then we are truly ageless beings.

-Afterlife
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“And when one of them meets with his other half, the actual half of himself, the pair are lost in an amazement of love and friendship and intimacy and one will not be out of the other’s sight even for a moment.”

–Plato 2,500 years ago.
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plato wasn't talking about another. don't look outward. look within.
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I was severely hurt because of a twin flame rejection. He wasn't ready. It was a terrible setback because once you've met them, you have a different set of stuff to work through. And before some wise spark tries to tell me there's a difference between soul mate and twin flame ... I already know that. I know the difference.

I took years and a miracle to deal with it, and years later I am still healing.

I never want to see him again because I know that he'll just look at me and I'll melt and nothing will matter.
Which Pisses me off more than I can express.
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I thought I had met my twin soul flame, long ago, and that we would be together someday. All the feelings were so intense and I did my best to forget about him. Then, he would pop into my dreams and be so real. He was a gentleman in these dreams, just coming to see how I was doing or to get my approval. But now I have come to the conclusion that it was a delusion to keep me from feeling so alone in this world. I lost faith in the idea and have no hope that it is so. I will just go on from day to day as best I can and be my own hero.
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Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove;

O no! It is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.

Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come;
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.

If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.



William Shakespeare
(1564-1616)




hf
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I was severely hurt because of a twin flame rejection. He wasn't ready. It was a terrible setback because once you've met them, you have a different set of stuff to work through. And before some wise spark tries to tell me there's a difference between soul mate and twin flame ... I already know that. I know the difference.

I took years and a miracle to deal with it, and years later I am still healing.

I never want to see him again because I know that he'll just look at me and I'll melt and nothing will matter.
Which Pisses me off more than I can express.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 423270



Powerful revelations here! It helps the rest of us enormously!

Don't know if this is coincidence or a "God-Wink" but finished re-reading a book yesterday called "Twin Souls" by Patricia Joudry & Maurie D. Pressman, M.D.

It confirms EXACTLY what Afterlife and the others here have posted. On a personal note, it reaffirmed the reason that I have been such a hermit the last 5 years. I believe that my twin crossed my path several times, but we were both married to others & had families to be concerned about.

The only clues to his being my twin are: He and I always worked in some way for the same organizations...without planning any of it. Even when I moved away to another city after divorce, he was on the board of an affiliate organization which met at the non-profit where I worked in the city (100 miles away!). I had gotten that job through a staffing agency so this was definitely predestined.

When I left that company due to some advancement issues after 5 years, I began a course of intensive study within the field of sustainable agriculture...a passion of mine. I had dated previously to this, but then became disillusioned with the lack of connection and superficial games that were being played. The time alone has allowed me to become stronger in my purpose for being here...without leaning on someone else or needing someone else's approval. A big step after being co-dependent on a marriage for 30 years.

Anyway, before we actually can be of service to others we need to be self-sufficient. When we reach that point of not needing anyone for fulfillment, then supposedly this will attract the twin to us. Logically, how can we serve others while trying to please someone else in a personal relationship?!?

Thank you again for presenting this again today. It just reaffirms that I am on the right path.
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ahhh

Oh no! Sorry, Afterlife...looks like my name killed this beautiful thread.

Guess I'll have to go back to being an AC again.
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The poll didn't include:

I met the twin flame that met all the named indicators but it turned out to be a fantasy.
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The poll didn't include:

I met the twin flame that met all the named indicators but it turned out to be a fantasy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 419399




A twin flame can be a metaphor for what is the closest we can come to single minded, absolute Love.



Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove;


Love cannot be changed or destroyed because it is not of this world, per se. Love does not change to meet it's surroundings as it is the perfection of all things.



PS/ the laundry list. twin flames meet when the time is right. when the feeling is right. when the union made is fruitful and produces more good, more love in the world.

I don't know that twin flames between people can happen in the physical world as we know it. We come close, for sure, but perfection?

hf

and then all the flames gathered together into one great Light.
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The poll didn't include:

I met the twin flame that met all the named indicators but it turned out to be a fantasy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 419399


Thank you for saying. All comments are important, and several minds are certainly better than one!

Since your experience was not on the poll, my guess is that you answered, "My experience is not listed here. I will e-mail the author and have it anonymously included in the next twin flame poll research from May-June 2008."

Thank you again for taking the time to say. Much appreciated!

-Afterlife
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I've always found Purpleaura's dream to be interesting regarding this "reunion" of Flames. Several others since have had similar dreams noting this now ongoing reunion.


[link to z14.invisionfree.com]

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Powerful revelations here! It helps the rest of us enormously!

Don't know if this is coincidence or a "God-Wink" but finished re-reading a book yesterday called "Twin Souls" by Patricia Joudry & Maurie D. Pressman, M.D.

It confirms EXACTLY what Afterlife and the others here have posted. On a personal note, it reaffirmed the reason that I have been such a hermit the last 5 years. I believe that my twin crossed my path several times, but we were both married to others & had families to be concerned about.

The only clues to his being my twin are: He and I always worked in some way for the same organizations...without planning any of it. Even when I moved away to another city after divorce, he was on the board of an affiliate organization which met at the non-profit where I worked in the city (100 miles away!). I had gotten that job through a staffing agency so this was definitely predestined.

When I left that company due to some advancement issues after 5 years, I began a course of intensive study within the field of sustainable agriculture...a passion of mine. I had dated previously to this, but then became disillusioned with the lack of connection and superficial games that were being played. The time alone has allowed me to become stronger in my purpose for being here...without leaning on someone else or needing someone else's approval. A big step after being co-dependent on a marriage for 30 years.

Anyway, before we actually can be of service to others we need to be self-sufficient. When we reach that point of not needing anyone for fulfillment, then supposedly this will attract the twin to us. Logically, how can we serve others while trying to please someone else in a personal relationship?!?

Thank you again for presenting this again today. It just reaffirms that I am on the right path.
 Quoting: a-noid 423398


You always know where he is ... I think that's your main clue.

I moved halfway across the world for some distance. My story is too complex to recount but the outcome and essence is in my previous post. It hurt like hell. Not sure if the connection can be destroyed but I am testing its limits vigorously. I have completely rebuilt my life from scratch and I have a completely different set of objectives. It was the most liberating thing that ever happened to me. The anger was usefully channeled into reconstruction.

Everything can turn out for the best. There is no such thing as failure, its all perception and usually failure is only visible at the point of change. Beyond that, looking back, you realise that it was all exactly "what it was" and that one day some day in another set of circumstances, conditions might be better.

Most importantly the entire experience brought me closer to my higher self and ultimately to 'God' and to discovering my purpose. All things I was seeking before the great big cataclysm of my life collapsing in a heap around me.

Peace out
Namasté
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I was severely hurt because of a twin flame rejection. He wasn't ready. It was a terrible setback because once you've met them, you have a different set of stuff to work through. And before some wise spark tries to tell me there's a difference between soul mate and twin flame ... I already know that. I know the difference.

I took years and a miracle to deal with it, and years later I am still healing.

I never want to see him again because I know that he'll just look at me and I'll melt and nothing will matter.
Which Pisses me off more than I can express.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 423270


Hi...

I was reading what you wrote and what first came to mind is, was it really a terrible set-back? Did your twin not propel you into a different stuff to work through? If not he, who could do this for you do you think? Maybe you are being prepared for something that may surprise you indeed.

Since you do know about twin soul, you must also know that you truly are never separated. Perhaps he has some things to work on as well, and preparation time is necessary.

I am sorry for the pain it has caused. However, I know you would agree that feeling them is better than not knowing they exist at all. Yes, even if it is painful. I assure you, it will change...as it has before.

-Afterlife
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^ yep ... there are layers upon layers upon layers of understanding attached to this.


Nicely spotted!

I think the follow up post I wrote (above) addresses the outcome.

hf
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ahhh

Oh no! Sorry, Afterlife...looks like my name killed this beautiful thread.

Guess I'll have to go back to being an AC again.
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Nothing really ever dies! It simply changes form...

-Afterlife
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Can you meet your twin flame or a soul mate/friend and have them not feel the same way or maybe they do and are scared to express how they feel? Or maybe they expressed themselves to me about how she felt and then got scared of how attached I was getting because she is married..

The thing is, I met this amazing girl through an online video game.. From the first time I heard her speak on voice software I was like wow, why do I get the feeling i know her and have this weird magnetic force pull me to her.. A year almost 2 have gone by since I met her and we had our ups and downs in our friendship.. We we're at a point where we would tell each other how much we loved each other but at a certain point since(she has been married 5 years but not in a healthy relationship from what she tells me- not abuse or anything sh just isn't loved by her husband), that after a certain point I expressed to her that I wanted to be with her, things started to spiral out of control.. Meaning, we began to fight and disagree a lot about little stupid things which resulted in her not talking to me for a few months.

I felt like I was complete and whole when being with her, it was like being on a drug high but with no drugs.. For those 2 months I contemplated ending my life just about everyday.. But not only because of not having her in my life anymore at that moment but also because Im a failure when it comes to holding down jobs or even getting decent paying jobs.. i can't support myself independently... Which is a reason I think me and her started to sour in our relationship because I think she wanted out of her marriage but I wasn't and outlet for her.

2 months went by and we are now very close again and i take special care of just trying to help her out and be there for her on an emotional level when things get rough for her in real life. She can vent anything to me in full confidence and I like to think I give her sound advice.

Deep down I love this girl with all my heart like I've never loved anyone before.. I think about her constantly, any cute brunettes I see on t.v or in real life I immediately think of this girl.. Its starting to drive me nuts because although I know Ill never be with her till I get some sort of cash flow happening (even if then), I just can't stand to be away from her or without communication from her.
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Can you meet your twin flame or a soul mate/friend and have them not feel the same way or maybe they do and are scared to express how they feel? Or maybe they expressed themselves to me about how she felt and then got scared of how attached I was getting because she is married..

The thing is, I met this amazing girl through an online video game.. From the first time I heard her speak on voice software I was like wow, why do I get the feeling i know her and have this weird magnetic force pull me to her.. A year almost 2 have gone by since I met her and we had our ups and downs in our friendship.. We we're at a point where we would tell each other how much we loved each other but at a certain point since(she has been married 5 years but not in a healthy relationship from what she tells me- not abuse or anything sh just isn't loved by her husband), that after a certain point I expressed to her that I wanted to be with her, things started to spiral out of control.. Meaning, we began to fight and disagree a lot about little stupid things which resulted in her not talking to me for a few months.

I felt like I was complete and whole when being with her, it was like being on a drug high but with no drugs.. For those 2 months I contemplated ending my life just about everyday.. But not only because of not having her in my life anymore at that moment but also because Im a failure when it comes to holding down jobs or even getting decent paying jobs.. i can't support myself independently... Which is a reason I think me and her started to sour in our relationship because I think she wanted out of her marriage but I wasn't and outlet for her.

2 months went by and we are now very close again and i take special care of just trying to help her out and be there for her on an emotional level when things get rough for her in real life. She can vent anything to me in full confidence and I like to think I give her sound advice.

Deep down I love this girl with all my heart like I've never loved anyone before.. I think about her constantly, any cute brunettes I see on t.v or in real life I immediately think of this girl.. Its starting to drive me nuts because although I know Ill never be with her till I get some sort of cash flow happening (even if then), I just can't stand to be away from her or without communication from her.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373646


I gather that she is married and you are not. Yes, that is not always easy.

When twins meet, and one or the other is married, the marriage is honored at the deepest level as it is a lesson one or both of the twins must go through. Sometimes both twins are married which makes it double of what you are now experiencing.

I feel your experience is telling you and also urging you to be self-sufficient. This is in all ways. Only you know the complete message in this.

I have never met a failure, and I certainly do not feel you are one. I do feel that maybe you have not found your passion and have, as a result, become disinterested in your jobs. What is your passion? Find that, and you can make a living doing what you love…

If this is truly your twin soul, do you realise how uncommon it is to meet? However, more and more people are moving closer to where they came from and this will inevitably bring you back to yourself...and your twin when you yourself are complete.

When you are twin souls, often you will experience telepathic communication as well as visitations in dreams that feel like vivid dreams. Know that you are not really apart and that thought transference is always available to you if you allow it to happen. That is what telepathy is. You truly are able to communicate anytime if you wish and you are never without... You always have you which is a manifestation of her in another form.

-Afterlife
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Can you meet your twin flame or a soul mate/friend and have them not feel the same way or maybe they do and are scared to express how they feel? Or maybe they expressed themselves to me about how she felt and then got scared of how attached I was getting because she is married..

The thing is, I met this amazing girl through an online video game.. From the first time I heard her speak on voice software I was like wow, why do I get the feeling i know her and have this weird magnetic force pull me to her.. A year almost 2 have gone by since I met her and we had our ups and downs in our friendship.. We we're at a point where we would tell each other how much we loved each other but at a certain point since(she has been married 5 years but not in a healthy relationship from what she tells me- not abuse or anything sh just isn't loved by her husband), that after a certain point I expressed to her that I wanted to be with her, things started to spiral out of control.. Meaning, we began to fight and disagree a lot about little stupid things which resulted in her not talking to me for a few months.

I felt like I was complete and whole when being with her, it was like being on a drug high but with no drugs.. For those 2 months I contemplated ending my life just about everyday.. But not only because of not having her in my life anymore at that moment but also because Im a failure when it comes to holding down jobs or even getting decent paying jobs.. i can't support myself independently... Which is a reason I think me and her started to sour in our relationship because I think she wanted out of her marriage but I wasn't and outlet for her.

2 months went by and we are now very close again and i take special care of just trying to help her out and be there for her on an emotional level when things get rough for her in real life. She can vent anything to me in full confidence and I like to think I give her sound advice.

Deep down I love this girl with all my heart like I've never loved anyone before.. I think about her constantly, any cute brunettes I see on t.v or in real life I immediately think of this girl.. Its starting to drive me nuts because although I know Ill never be with her till I get some sort of cash flow happening (even if then), I just can't stand to be away from her or without communication from her.
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Whether it be the union of twin flames, soul mates or karmic partners, the marriage of man and woman is meant to be an initiation on the path back to God, a commemoration of the soul’s reunion with God. It is our choice as to whether our relationships are based on the human or the divine. The union of twin flames is intended to be for the magnification of their service to God and humanity - it is a high and holy calling. To meet your twin flame while you still have karma may simply lead to another parting, without the knowledge of spiritual laws on how to balance this karma and the dedication to apply these laws.

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I was right: I am married to the wrong person. My wife is my worse nightmare. Somebody help me.
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Kindly and gently PART. You have every right to happiness...
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I gather that she is married and you are not. Yes, that is not always easy.

When twins meet, and one or the other is married, the marriage is honored at the deepest level as it is a lesson one or both of the twins must go through. Sometimes both twins are married which makes it double of what you are now experiencing.

I feel your experience is telling you and also urging you to be self-sufficient. This is in all ways. Only you know the complete message in this.

I have never met a failure, and I certainly do not feel you are one. I do feel that maybe you have not found your passion and have, as a result, become disinterested in your jobs. What is your passion? Find that, and you can make a living doing what you love…

If this is truly your twin soul, do you realise how uncommon it is to meet? However, more and more people are moving closer to where they came from and this will inevitably bring you back to yourself...and your twin when you yourself are complete.

When you are twin souls, often you will experience telepathic communication as well as visitations in dreams that feel like vivid dreams. Know that you are not really apart and that thought transference is always available to you if you allow it to happen. That is what telepathy is. You truly are able to communicate anytime if you wish and you are never without... You always have you which is a manifestation of her in another form.

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Yes she is married and I am not.. I found myself doing things to get her to stay with her husband but at the same time telling her I want to be with her.. I mean she would tell me stuff like "he hasn't touched me in months", and knowing them both on a personal level I tried to get him to be more affectionate towards her.. An example would be, she makes him dinner or does something nice for him, and I would urge him to go give her a kiss thanking her lol.. Stuff like that.. He never would and I couldnt understand it because she is definitely average looking to everybody else but me who thinks she is very beautiful and very sweet..

She also wants to have a child with him and it seems they can't have one.. Well shes expressed to me she wants children but she needs to get some from her husband but he barely pays her that type of attention..

I've dreamt about her more than a dozen times but never in a sexual fantasy.. it would always happen when i felt a longing for her.. And one dream I had this female telling me to "be nicer to her" because i was becoming agitated with her in real life to the extent of being a little mean once in awhile cause she would do stuff to purposely piss me off or so it seemed.. Like she knew what buttons to press to get me riled up but also knew how to be a total sweetheart..

I still talk to her everyday and the longing to be with her is still persistent but Ive come to the realization that being one of her best friends is ok with me too. I just try to avoid letting her know how much I love her (which is damn hard for me) so not to play mind games with her and her current relationship.

Thanks for the link btw.
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THE GRAIL CODES OF 2008 : A Conversation with Archangel Michael by Celia Fenn

The Grail Code Activations are an important part of our transition to Human Angelic form. The Grail Codes enable us to integrate the Feminine Christ energy, and thus to bring ourselves into full and complete balance and so be capable of living in the Fifth Dimension in a balanced and creative way. When I visisted the Languedoc region in 2007, the part of Southern France that is known as the "Madeleine" country, I was so conscious of a great joy that was almost coming outo of the Earth itself, as the time approached for Humanity to once again recognize and honor the Feminine Christ energy.


This region in France has held the energy for the Feminine Christ for many years, and now is the time that this energy is being re-integrated back into the Global Heart Grid of the Planet, and into the Hearts of every person on the Planet who is open to this truth.



It is a time of Great Healing for the Planetary Heart, and a time for each of us to reclaim the Divine Feminine Christed energy within our own Hearts. This conversation with Archangel Michael serves to bring more information about this Blessing of Transformation that has been given to us in 2008.

Celia: Last year, in 2007, we spoke about the "Infinity Codes" that were an important part of the transformation of Humans into Human Angels. This year, 2008, you have spoken of the "Grail Codes". Can you explain to me how these are connected and what they mean for us?

AAMichael : Yes, indeed, it is a pleasure to do so. In 2007, we worked to activate certain "codes" or sets of information that you carry within your DNA. This can be described as an awareness of the Infinity of Time and Space, as we explained to you, and so we called these the "Infinity Codes". These activations, within the DNA and Lightbody, enabled Humans to fully ignite the Galactic Lightbody and to once more claim their Galactic heritage, as was part of the original plan for Humanity.

Now, in 2008, again according to your Original Template that was designed by Source through the Elohim Angels, you are empowered to activate what we call the "Grail Codes", which re-energize that part of the Template of Human Divine Perfection that gives you the ability to attain to full Cosmic Consciousness. So, at this point, if the Human Angelic template is once again activated to its full potential. Now, it is again a matter of receiving directly from the Central Sun, the New Light Codes for further evolution in your new form. So, in this period of transition to 2012, you will begin thus process by working with the new Evolutionary Codes for the Creation of Abundance through Community on your planet.

Celia" So, why are these called "Grail Codes"?

Yes, indeed, a good question. The "Grail" itself is a concept from Western Christian archetypal imagery, and is a symbol for a truth that has been hidden from Humanity for many years. What is the Grail? Where is Hidden? Why do Questors seek for the "Holy Grail"? We will say, quite simply, as we have done before, that you yourselves are the "Holy Grail", and as you ascend into awareness of your potential as a Human Angel, you achieve the Quest and you become the Grail. This was the heart of the Teachings of Mary Magdalene, taken to France by her to be given to all Humanity as a Gift of Light from Source. But, because of persecution by those who chose another path of power and dominance, the Truth of the Magdalene was hidden and encoded into stories and songs and poems, that were passed down from generation to generation.

We would like to say more here about the teachings of Mary Magdalene in Europe. Mary Magdalene came to the West with the intention of spreading the Teachings of the Christ. And by this, we do not mean only Yeshua as Christ, we mean also her own Sacred role as the feminine part of a Sacred or Christed partnership. She was the "Christ" or "Christed One" herself, and it was this truth that was recognized by her followers, and which was obliterated by those who sought to gain control by propagating the idea of a Masculine Christ and a Masculine God the Father, removing the Christed Feminine and the Mother aspect of Source. In this way, half of the truth of the Christ energy was removed, and the teachings of the Christ that were transmitted via the Roman Church were only "half" truths, aimed at ensuring male power and control.

So it is, that the "history" that you have received in the West is only the history of those who followed the Male Christ energy. It is imbalanced. This was achieved by a concerted campaign of terror against those who carried the knowledge of the full truth of the Feminine Christ energy that was carried by Mary Magdalene. So, for almost a thousand years, all those who followed her truth or who connected with the Feminine Christ or God principle, were persecuted and killed. Until, eventually, all that remained was a male-dominated, unbalanced version of the original gift of the Christ Teachings of Yeshua and Mariam, whom you call Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

The Path of Service that activates the energy of the Feminine Christ has long been lost and forgotten, and yet it lingers on in the Grail legends and the tradition of "Amour Courtoisie" or "Courtly Love" that were a part of the culture of this region of medieval France. These stories, which tell of the Questor's search for the Grail, and of the Knight who serves the Beloved Lady, are metaphors for the Divine Path to Spiritual Oneness with Source through service to the Principle of the Divine Feminine or the Mother Aspect of God. The "Lady" was the bearer of the energy of the Divine Mother Goddess, and in serving her, the Male would find his path to Divinity by embracing, through her Purity and Beauty, the Divine Feminine within himself. In the same way, each one of you who serves the principles of Beauty and Grace, learns to walk the creative path of the Divine Feminine, and to to access the Golden Flame of Ascended Love that united the Divine Feminine with the Divine Masculine in the Heart of God.

This was an honored path, and one that taught man to honor woman as a portal to the Divine Source energy, and to honor his own gentle and supportive feminine energy. The Man, or Questor, would know that his quest was for Higher Love and Spiritual Wisdom, and his service to the Beloved had very little of a sexual focus and more of a Heart and Soul centered focus. So, indeed, this was very different to the teachings of the male-centered church, whose teachings were that women, unless controlled by men, were the portal to evil and degradation. So, it was no surprise that the church sought to eradicate those who followed the path of the Feminine Christ.

And yet, even today, the Grail Path or the Codes that carry the path to Divinity through Service to the Divine Mother element of Source are being re-activated. As individuals, you will learn to chrish and honor the Beloved as expressed through the Divine Feminine, and through women, as a path of spiritual service to the Light of God within your hearts. As a collective, you will learn to serve Beauty and Turth and Love, and through this service to integrate the gentle, loving and supportive energies of the Mother aspect of Source into your society once again. This will enable you to create support and abundance for all.

Now, generally it is thought that the Grail itself was the Cup or Chalice that was used by Christ at what is known as the "Last Supper". And yes, that cup is a symbol for the idea of the "Grail", for the Golden Cup is a receptacle for the for the sacred wine that represented the "blood" of Christ. And so, the Human Body is the sacred receptacle or chalice for the "blood" of the christed ones, or the sacred flow of Soul and Spirit in those who are "christed" and have opened themselves to receive their Divinity and the creative power that goes with the knowledge of this Divinity. It is the power to create and to be a creator in the name of Source. That is the Secret of the Grail that is held within each one of you as Human Angels.

So, the culmination of the teachings of Mary Magdalene and her Twin Flame, Yeshua or Jesus, is the recognition that your physical body, with its patterns of infinite perfection encoded in the DNA, is the Grail itself.

Celia: So, may I ask what are the connections between the Twin Flame energies and the Grail Codes?

Yeshua and Mariam, or Jesus and Mary Magdalene, came to the Planet to be a mirror or reflection of the Divine Truth of the Eternal Twin Flame of the Source. It was absolutely necesary that they come together to be a reflection of the balanced polarities of the Source energy.

But, indeed, what happened, as we explained, was that the Feminine Flame or Polarity was suppressed and "switched off" within your DNA, and a version of the Christ teaching based on the Masculine polarity alone came to dominate western civilization in the form of Christianity. Now, this has been an unbalanced energy and it has drawn on the masculine unbalanced energies of control, power and dominance. It has fed greed, violence, and the "exploitation" of the "weak" feminine energies whether in women or in indigneous peoples through the dominant energies of colonialism and slavery. Part of the process of Ascension has been to once again empower the Feminine so that the Creative Power of the Mother God can once again be felt by all. And to empower the Masculine, so that men can once again claim their gentleness and beauty, and to be not only warriors but also poets and troubadours of the Beloved.

Celia : How was it possible to "switch off" the Divine Feminine Light Codes in the Human Body?

By the simple method of killing off all those who were activating and bearing these codes in their lives and work, in other words, all those who carried the genetic codes of the Magdalene and her teachings. The Church that was established in the name of the male Christ energy undertook a long campaign of terror in Europe, in which all who supported and lived the truth of the Divine Feminine as represented by the Magdalene energy of the Divine Feminine, were killed. They were tortured and killed as heretics and witches, and their numbers decimated.

Now, in the course of human evolution, this "information" was passed into the DNA, and the human body/mind learnt that in order to survive, it needed to "switch off" this Divine Feminine polarity. And so, the Divine Feminine receptors in the DNA were switched off, and the transmissions of the Divine Mother from the Great Sun were no longer received. And, unfortunately, the transmissions for Cosmic Balance come from the the Mother God energy. And so, humanity lived with a distorted image of the Divine Feminine that was created by an unbalanced male energy. It was an image that reduced the Sacred Magdalene to a harlot, and tied "good women" to disempowerment and to an expression of their creativity that was only allowed on the biological level. So, even today, many women still consider their biology to be the only way that they can express Feminine power, and they are afraid to claim their full power as Feminine Christed and Divine Creative Beings and Equal Partners with the Male and Masculine energies.

But, we will say, that this information was never lost. It was stored in the DNA, for reference, as the Human DNA is designed to hold all information available for later reference. And so, at this time, with the activation of these Codes by specific light transmissions, Humanity has been empowered to once again "switch on" the Divine Feminine Flame and to thus be empowered to create Sacred Union once again.

Celia: Is there a connection between this process and Ascension symptoms?

Yes, indeed, as this DNA strand is fully re-activated and "switched on" again, Humanity has to clear and release all the trauma and fear that is contained in this "lock down" message. You have had to transmute generations of fear, abuse and low self worth that is stored in your DNA. This related not only to male/female relationships, but to any situation where a powerful masculine energy abuses a weaker feminine energy. As was already mentioned, this was the energy called "colonialism", where settlers overcame native populations and suppressed them. Part of the Grail Code activations has required forgiveness and release of this past history. It requires that there be an acceptance and a release and a recognition of mutual love and respect, in order for the Earth to move back into balance.

That is why, in the years that come, there will be increasing connections between "Lightworkers" from the developed nations and the spiritual traditions of native and Indigenous peoples. It will be a path of mutual respect, in which balance will be achieved by and through mutual love and respect for the spiritual paths of each other. You will see, clearly, that your paths are One.

Celia: So, as I understand it, the purpose of the Grail Codes is to activate the Original Template for Human Perfection that was designed by the Elohim. It contains the Divine Masculine and Feminine in perfect balance. Why is this so important for us now?

Well, as you enter the Fifth Dimension, you are experiencing the Full Consciousness of the One. You are understanding and feeling that you are all connected within the One Heart and Mind.

Now, that One is the Source, and you are all indeed held within the Heart of Source. And you were created by Source to be the Earthly reflection or Mirror of the Source energy.

Now, when the Source activates its creative power, it divides into the polarities of Masculine and Feminine, or, as we know them, Cosmic Fire and Cosmic Water, in which the Creative Fire carries the energy of the Divine Feminine and the Creative Water is the power of the Divine Masculine.

So, within each Human Angel in a Physical Body, is the potential to express and experience the Divine Polarities of Masculine and Feminine as a mirror of the Creator and to create a reality on this planet that is in turn, a reflection or Mirror of Heaven itself.

This is the process when a Human ascends to Human Angelic being and brings their Divine Source energies into balance within the Heart. This activates the creative power of Source and enables them to become powerful creators. So, the best understanding of the Twin Flame and Sacred Union, is that it is an Inner Process in which individuals are enabled to truly become a mirror reflection of the One or Source and are empowered to create from the powerful Sacred Union of energies within the Heart. That is the nature of "Sacred Union" and the "Sacred Heart" meditation that was given to you in 2007 by us.

Another way we have explained this with the information of the "Sacred Heart", is to understand that the Heart is the central point for two spirals of energy. The first is the one that creates "Heaven on Earth", the Sacred Light from Spirit marries with the lower energies from the Earth Body at the Heart, and creates a "Lemnascate" or figure 8, as the energy of Heaven and earth combine within each individual.

Now, this can be called a the "vertical" expression of the Twin Flame. The "Horizantal" expression is when the Masculine and Feminine energies combine within the Heart to create a further figure of 8 of the spiralling energies. Then, you have a double figure of 8 that resembles a four-sided cross, which is indeed the esoteric symbol for Earth. So, Earth is the Planet where Heaven meets Earth and where Masculine and Feminine energies combine to create a Bliss and Joy on the Material Plane.

Now, in the past, Heaven and Earth have been separated, and Masculine has dominated Feminine, and you have become unbalanced. This information has been transmitted into the DNA, and so this "evolutionary development" has been recorded and propagated. The purpose of the Ascension activations has been to re-balance these flows of energies so that human evolution can continue along the lines of the Original Blueprint, in alignment with Source, and not in the unbalanced way that it was heading. Indeed, the planet would have destroyed itself if this imbalance had been alalowed to continue. But, many loving and devoted Lightworkers offered their services to come to Earth and give their life service to regaining the balance so that the Planet could continue in her upward spiral of evolution in the Light of God's Grace and Love. And so it was, that over a period of time, more and more advanced and loving souls came to Earth to make these changes as best they could, until at last the Earth was ready to receive the massive influx of Light that came with the Indigo and Crystal children, who would help to "lift" the Earth back into Sacred Alignment. And this is the process called "Ascension".

Celia: Can you give us more information about the Grail Codes and Twin Flame relationships? I understand that the primary expression of these is within ourselves, but you have also suggested that these can be lived as Relationships or Partnerships like Yeshua and Mariam?

Yes, one of the great gifts of the Grail Codes is a re-aligning of Humanity with the Human Angelic template, so that you now have the opportunity to create balanced and loving Sacred Unions that are centered in the Heart and the Christ energy.

These relationships allow two souls to merge their soul energy and become "one flame", expressed in the two polarities of Masculine and Feminine, expressed through the partners in a sacred and committed partnership.

The soul's merge their Light energy on the Spiritual Level, and their bodies are united on the physical level. The sexual energy in Sacred Union is primarily creative in nature, and compassionate in expression. When the "lower" sexual energies of the body are included in the partnership, then they are also an expression of creativity and compassionate love, as well as deep respect and honor for this physical expression of divinity that is represented by the physical body.

Now, the second issue is commitment between Soul Union partners. When such a union is created it is indeed sacred and should be honored as such. The merging of soul energies into Oneness creates an energetic template or geometrical form of Light that is an "entity" in it's own right. When the love is sacred and pure and clear, then this geometric form is woven into the DNA of the planet and the love continues beyond the life of the body. The template left by Yeshua and Mariam exists even today in the DNA or Akasha of the planet, and is being awakened and accessed by all those who activate the Grail Codes and bring their Heart energies into balance. Then, they may access the shining geometries of Sacred Union that were left by Yeshua and Mariam as a template for Human Angelic Union.


This is why Soul Mate partners who have merged their energies into Sacred Union are drawn back together through many lifetimes, as their Soul and Light creation of Love calls them back together from the Spiritual Realms. It is not "karma" that brings great lovers back together, but the energetic and infinite power of great soul love expressed in the union of two souls as the "Beloved" and encoded into a geometric light field..

We cannot but emphasize how powerful and enduring is the love of the soul. That is why Yeshua the Christ said that angels do not marry. There is no need for ceremonies to give one to the other as an attachment. Souls who have freely chosen to enter into Sacred Union through many lifetimes will be drawn together through many lifetimes, if there are no energies to block that process, or if the union itself has served its purpose and the growth needs of both souls and now needs to be dissolved so that another cycle of love and experience can be instigated.



Celia: Thank You, I appreciate this information. But what about the idea of the "Twin Soul" of the "other half" of your soul? Why do people believe that they have to look for "their twin" and that this is only one being....?

Well, as we have already said, great soul love endures through many lifetimes, and the souls who have created a light template of their love may yearn deeply to continue this expeience with the one soul who represents the "Beloved" to them in this cycle of their soul's growth. But, the deep need to "find" a certain soul does not mean that only this soul is available. Spirit is abundant, and will offer you several suitable "soul mates" if you desire to enter into a Sacred Union or partnership as a way of expressing your inner Divinity. You will be allowed to choose the soul that speaks to your heart.

Celia: But I have had people say that they have seen visions of their soul and this "other half". Why is that?

Well, in the past humans have been conditioned to think that way by a philosophy of lack and control. Source is Infinite and Abundant, and you are never given only one chance in life. But, we will say, that these visions are a symbolic representation of the original path of Source and indicate the return path to Divinty through Sacred Union. The Source is the One, who divides and becomes Two. These Two are the Masculine and Feminine polarities of God. From these two polarities of Divinity, all creation springs forth. Now, when two souls are drawn together they follow the "reverse path" to Oneness, as the Masculine and Feminine polarities become One. They are enacting the Sacred Drama of Creation and allowing two separate parts of Divinity to unite in an expression of Great Love and Passion. And when they separate to become themselves, they continue to carry the great mystery of Divinity as expressed through Sacred Union - the Two who become One and then become Three as they create another "light being" from their love. Indeed, the mystery of the "Trinity" as an expression of Creative Divinity os one of the most distorted of the Christ teachings, of the "Trinity" is God the Mother and the Father and the Child of Light, which is the Creation of the Twin Flame love in the Higher Dimensions. The "Child of Light" can manifest in many ways on the material plane, and is not limited to or defined by the biological process of birthing children.

It is our deep desire that you feel and begin to see the deep distortions that have entered into human relationships, and that you free yourselves from old patterns of attachment, domination, and control. Then, in perfect freedom, you may choose to experience the Radiant Light of Twin Flame Union as it is now possible in the New Earth. It is a great gift to all who make the deep soul choice to allow their Divinity to be expressed through a partnership. But, remember that a first step is that you would have claimed your own personal power and balanced divinity as a foundation before you can externalize that in the expression of Sacred Union.

So, Beloved One, we are ready to assist each one of you who carries the intention to create Sacred Union. The Grail Code activations in the DNA will allow you to integrate the energy of the Feminine Christ, the Magdalene, and so to empower yourself to express a balanced and powerful relationship of Spirit and Body.

And so, we thank you for this time together and wish you Joy and Grace and Love in your Creation of Heaven on Earth in the New Earth energy.

© 2007-8 Celia Fenn and Christina Mueller

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