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John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008

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L
User ID: 396542
3/20/2008 9:59 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

I read about a very good phycic that say hillary clinton will win the election and a bunch of other stuff that john titor spoke about too....

here is her website and link to her predictions...that is also creepy...

[link to www.michellewhitedove.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 387333
3/20/2008 10:06 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

John TITOR Quote:

02/19/01 16:01

"Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."

It appears this timeline is 4 years off.


This timeline is fine as it is.

But you have to admit the his/her statement is very fitting for The Clintons.

Maybe Bush never had a second term in his timeline, but the leaders stayed the same. Ah well.. i'm just guessing.
 Quoting: Rxmundi

Seems to me Bush's first term was more Lincoln like in trying to hold the country together, ect. per 05 scenerio. the 2005 Bush presidency was about deperately trying to hold on to his power base.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 47188
3/20/2008 10:09 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

JT never said hillary would be pres, or that there would be a female pres.
Rxmundi
User ID: 350216
3/20/2008 10:17 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

JT never said hillary would be pres, or that there would be a female pres.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47188


You are right. There is just this one hint. the "his/her" statement.
One the one hand it is very vague. On the other, very fitting for the Clintons.
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L
User ID: 396542
3/20/2008 10:18 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

wow! this all make sense now! there is a NORAD base there in Colorado Springs its one the largest underground base you that belongs to our government and it is sitting near where the republic of lakota is... maybe that why they try to convince the rest of the public to keep the untied state together its a power struggle just what john titor said

look at what the tribe took back from the untied states now


here is the map of what the untied states should look like now when the lakota republic took back there land

here is the link

[link to www.republicoflakotah.com]
Rxmundi
User ID: 350216
3/20/2008 10:20 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

John TITOR Quote:

02/19/01 16:01

"Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."

It appears this timeline is 4 years off.


This timeline is fine as it is.

But you have to admit the his/her statement is very fitting for The Clintons.

Maybe Bush never had a second term in his timeline, but the leaders stayed the same. Ah well.. i'm just guessing.

Seems to me Bush's first term was more Lincoln like in trying to hold the country together, ect. per 05 scenerio. the 2005 Bush presidency was about deperately trying to hold on to his power base.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387333


I agree. Although keeping this Bushpolicy, and not getting out of Iraq makes him a bit Licolnish.
But i'm not an American, i don't know a great deal about Licoln other then he was pres during the civ.war And never changed policy through his presidency.
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User ID: 154922
3/20/2008 10:20 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Problem: John Titor never said there would be a female president.

----------

Yes he did, he said He or She.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393599


Care to supply a link? All I remember is this (in reference to the president): "... he (she?) ..."

That is not saying that the president is female.

Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you BELIEVE stand in the way of KNOWLEDGE, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best.
Rxmundi
User ID: 350216
3/20/2008 10:22 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Problem: John Titor never said there would be a female president.

----------

Yes he did, he said He or She.


Care to supply a link? All I remember is this (in reference to the president): "... he (she?) ..."

That is not saying that the president is female.
 Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0


This is what JT said:


02/19/01 16:01

"((Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."

You can find that on any Titor site.
edit: to my knowledge it;s the only one stating a woman pres. (allbeit in a vague way)
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 396542
3/20/2008 10:27 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

John TITOR Quote:

02/19/01 16:01

"Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387333


his/her???? sounds like bill and hillary to me

power base????? they got to be talking about this...

and it all make sense now! there is a NORAD base there in Colorado Springs its one the largest underground base you that belongs to our government and it is sitting near where the republic of lakota is... maybe that why they try to convince the rest of the public to keep the untied state together its a power struggle just what john titor said

look at what the tribe took back from the untied states now


here is the map of what the untied states should look like now when the lakota republic took back there land

here is the link

[link to www.republicoflakotah.com]
13.0.0.0.0 Subscriber
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
User ID: 154922
3/20/2008 10:28 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

The PROOF is the Olympics.

Watching, waiting, and HOPING that they do happen

IF they don't then we all need to go back and re-read both "John Titor" AND "Gaia Man" ... QUICKLY
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393972


I'm being very VERY kind when I say the 2008 Olympics will be the ultimate proof. Titor actually said the 2004 Olympics will be the last Olympics. He's already wrong because there was the 2006 Winter Olympics.

I'm giving him the huge benefit of the doubt by assuming that when people say "olympics" they're thinking of events like the 100m sprint etc.

He's wrong in plenty of other ways anyway. We should be in our third year of civil war by now, and according to his words it should be obvious to everyone with no interpretation of "civil war" necessary. A Waco-like incident every week.

Then there was his photo of bending light which was completely illogical.

And

And

And

And

And

Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you BELIEVE stand in the way of KNOWLEDGE, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best.
L
User ID: 396542
3/20/2008 10:36 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

no he said that there will be a Waco type event that steadily get worst .....and guess what ...there was one.... and it started in 1996 however there was no static until late 2005 and in 2007 they were arrested by surprise


ed elaine brown new Hampshire look them up...Google them

there in jail now.....but it would have been another Waco..they were against the IRS..
13.0.0.0.0 Subscriber
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User ID: 154922
3/20/2008 10:38 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

This is what JT said:


02/19/01 16:01

"((Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."

You can find that on any Titor site.
edit: to my knowledge it;s the only one stating a woman pres. (allbeit in a vague way)
 Quoting: Rxmundi


Yeah you're right. That one came later after the initial "he (she?)" one that everyone pounced on and demanded to know if the president was a female. After that initial reaction it's no wonder he decided to ride that one for all it was worth.

Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you BELIEVE stand in the way of KNOWLEDGE, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283256
3/20/2008 10:39 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Bush annointed her his successor in maintaing the cover up of criminal enterprises from Bush1 and Clainton 1. There are reasons for her refusing to show tax returns in addition to the offshore accounts. McCain is only a figurehead with dementia in depends who will be 'supported' but the Diebold fix has already been put in place (First installments have already been paid).
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User ID: 154922
3/20/2008 10:41 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

no he said that there will be a Waco type event that steadily get worst .....and guess what ...there was one.... and it started in 1996 however there was no static until late 2005 and in 2007 they were arrested by surprise


ed elaine brown new Hampshire look them up...Google them

there in jail now.....but it would have been another Waco..they were against the IRS..
 Quoting: L 396542


I suggest you go re-read what he said. We should be Waco-ing our arses off right about now and there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that we are indeed in a civil war.

Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you BELIEVE stand in the way of KNOWLEDGE, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 387333
3/20/2008 10:44 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

John TITOR Quote:

02/19/01 16:01

"Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."




his/her???? sounds like bill and hillary to me

power base????? they got to be talking about this...

and it all make sense now! there is a NORAD base there in Colorado Springs its one the largest underground base you that belongs to our government and it is sitting near where the republic of lakota is... maybe that why they try to convince the rest of the public to keep the untied state together its a power struggle just what john titor said

look at what the tribe took back from the untied states now


here is the map of what the untied states should look like now when the lakota republic took back there land

here is the link

[link to www.republicoflakotah.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396542

Could be another scenerio. President and VP, with the former leaving office rather unexpectantly.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 387333
3/20/2008 10:47 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Still think the time line has been warped by 4 years. Titors 2005 is our 2009.
nsa
User ID: 396851
3/21/2008 9:55 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Everyone should take a browse through google video...

freedom or fascism... watch it. You want waco events?, and civil war? Civil war is NOT limited to shooting in the streets.... but plenty of that going on as well. What about the capitol building getting bombed in york pen. LOOK IT UP. why wasnt this on every major new paper. Bet you will find it in caches'.... i think huge division in the nation alone s an indication of civil war.

Titor fraud or not what he has to say about the country going down the tubes is a definite.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411008
4/8/2008 12:26 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

I think that 911 could be considered a Waco type event if you believe that there was conspiracy behind it. Alot of people ask why John Titor did not predict 911, well he sort of did. In 1998/99? Art Bell recieved faxes from John Titor (I believe this may have been the earliest John Titor information available, His first appearence) Anyways the faxes warn of the whole Y2k thing, and of the cival war and nuclear war etc. But very subtly he mentions that his world is just a little different, And that there are skyscapers in New York that do not exist in his worldline! Now Pre 911 I would of thought hmmm maybe a different version of the empire state was put up by another arcitect in his reality, but now 911 is the only thing that comes to mind when reading that statement.

The whole weapons of mass destruction as to the cause of the Iraq war was dead on.

Another cryptic statement is the "His/her" president comment.

People who don't believe always say that "oh all those predictions were obvious", come on back in 2000? I challenge anyone to give me a future 30 prediction right now, and we will see how that goes. Hitting one or two of these types of predictions I could agree, but John Titor has more or less predicted the general sense of where the world is today better than most. An explanation/excuse to why he is not always right (divergence of the world lines), is what i find the most interesting. Technically John comming here and spouting off his mouth started a ripple effect that is sending us farther and farther away from his reality every passing second! Whether it is a better or worse future then his own is TBD.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 408492
4/8/2008 12:35 PM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Truthfully, the preference is to time travel forward to change the results than to time travel backward and create the paradox. This is why the proposal to consider the military strategy of mass TT to combat the prophetic Chinese / Russian invasion is better served now than when the 'time' comes. Again, it is relative to divergence but the supposition for divergence lies more in the changing of previously existing events.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 413788
4/12/2008 2:31 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

to the above poster

do you mean kind of like creating your own future?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411934
4/23/2008 12:02 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Everyone should take a browse through google video...

freedom or fascism... watch it. You want waco events?, and civil war? Civil war is NOT limited to shooting in the streets.... but plenty of that going on as well. What about the capitol building getting bombed in york pen. LOOK IT UP. why wasnt this on every major new paper. Bet you will find it in caches'.... i think huge division in the nation alone s an indication of civil war.

Titor fraud or not what he has to say about the country going down the tubes is a definite.
 Quoting: nsa 396851

Agreed.

How folks define "waco like events" is up to them. NO ONE was predicting a future as bleek as his story during a time as prosperous as 2000.

HOW MANY RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES HAVE TO DISAPEAR FOR YOU TO SEE THE TRUTH?

The Gov. doesn't have to drive tanks into your house when they have controll of everything you do now!

waco like events?

Ed and elain brown
paligamist camp
"don't taz me bro!"

Your gov is commiting these events in a whole new fasion!

Titor right again!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411934
4/23/2008 12:06 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

deal
Eric Carr
User ID: 406850
4/23/2008 2:36 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

John TITOR Quote:

02/19/01 16:01

"Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."


THAT SAYS HIS / HER. IT COULD BE A MAN OR WOMAN PRESIDENT. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEARN HOW TO READ.

That is like me saying there will be a woman or man president in 2012. Either way I have predicted the future.

John's prediction were very good for his time, but when the 2008 Olympics happen, are you all still going to believe this bullshit?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411934
4/23/2008 8:07 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

John TITOR Quote:

02/19/01 16:01

"Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. "The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."


THAT SAYS HIS / HER. IT COULD BE A MAN OR WOMAN PRESIDENT. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEARN HOW TO READ.

That is like me saying there will be a woman or man president in 2012. Either way I have predicted the future.

John's prediction were very good for his time, but when the 2008 Olympics happen, are you all still going to believe this bullshit?
 Quoting: Eric Carr 406850

YES!!

Why? If you understood JTs writing styles, that was no vague mistake. It was intentional. Who was even talking of..
"election fraud",
"red-blue states",
"Weapons of mass destruction used to wip us into a war" (that wasn't even in the vocabulary as a meme until the war!),
"Loss of civil liberties" (to the extent we have seen),
"China forcably annexing Tywan",
"USA as lazy Sheep"
"CERN up and running in 07 and creating micro-singularities"
Steven hawkins changing his 30 year theory to support what JT was saying that information could pass through a BH without the information being damaged
"Mad Cow"...who tf even heard of Madcow back then?!
"The IBM Unix problem" (that they nver published)
or the "possibilities that the olympics would be canceled"


I could go on...

THIS WAS UNHEARD OF IN 2000!!

JT was spot on on his understanding of where we would be Now and I challenge someone to show me WHO TF EVEN CAME CLOSE TO EXPLAINING THE DIRE STATE OF AFFAIRS WE ARE IN NOW!!

Are you telling me your life hasn't been changed by his story?....sure.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 225190
4/23/2008 8:57 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

The original of J Titor was women in white house
DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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4/23/2008 9:10 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Free Tibet!!!

Boycott the Olympics

Go Tibet cheer Go Titor
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393974

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Anonymous Coward
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4/23/2008 9:12 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Hillary is not going to win but she may become Vice? Titor never said anything about a female president. He did say several types of waco incidents. Now we have this polygmay thing happening. To me this fits more. Hillary is she destiny?
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4/23/2008 9:37 AM
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Why? If you understood JTs writing styles, that was no vague mistake. It was intentional. Who was even talking of..
"election fraud",
"red blue states",
"Weapons of mass destruction used to wip us into a war" (that wasn't even in the vocabulary as a meme until the war!),
"Loss of civil liberties" (to the extent we have seen),
"China forcably annexing Tywan",
"USA as lazy Sheep"
"CERN up and running in 07 and creating micro-singularities"
Steven hawkins changing his 30 year theory to support what JT was saying that information could pass through a BH without the information being damaged
"Mad Cow"...who tf even heard of Madcow back then?!
"The IBM Unix problem" (that they nver published)
or the "possibilities that the olympics would be canceled"


I could go on...

THIS WAS UNHEARD OF IN 2000!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 411934


I take it you've never watched the X-Files (mad cow), or
read Dan Brown (CERN and singularities). Guess what year
Angels & Demons was published?
It's funny how you expect people to believe that the idea of
a forced annex of Taiwan is something new. That isn't going
to happen either, not with how they got Hong Kong back.
Red and Blue states dates from 2000:
[link to www.geog.ucsb.edu]
And election fraud has been talked about since the US was
founded.
Do you think the ACLU is only 8 years old? Look up what
those letter stand for.
Hawking has changed his mind over a great many things. The
thing you refer to is from a bet made in 1997, which had a
50/50 chance of being right.
And as far as WMD not being well know there was a movie done
in 1997 that was a play on the very words you claim were not
used much. You also don't seem to remember the first Gulf
War.

I could go on too.

From what I can tell from your post you will clam after
the Olympics happen that Titor predicted the "possibility"
that it might not happen. It's like a religion for some
of you.
"I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears

Can't PM? Feel free to email me at DrPostman(at)gmail.com

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411934
4/23/2008 10:03 AM
Re: John Titor Was Right : Hillary Will Win In 2008Quote

Why? If you understood JTs writing styles, that was no vague mistake. It was intentional. Who was even talking of..
"election fraud",
"red blue states",
"Weapons of mass destruction used to wip us into a war" (that wasn't even in the vocabulary as a meme until the war!),
"Loss of civil liberties" (to the extent we have seen),
"China forcably annexing Tywan",
"USA as lazy Sheep"
"CERN up and running in 07 and creating micro-singularities"
Steven hawkins changing his 30 year theory to support what JT was saying that information could pass through a BH without the information being damaged
"Mad Cow"...who tf even heard of Madcow back then?!
"The IBM Unix problem" (that they nver published)
or the "possibilities that the olympics would be canceled"


I could go on...

THIS WAS UNHEARD OF IN 2000!!


I take it you've never watched the X-Files (mad cow), or
read Dan Brown (CERN and singularities). Guess what year
Angels & Demons was published?
It's funny how you expect people to believe that the idea of
a forced annex of Taiwan is something new. That isn't going
to happen either, not with how they got Hong Kong back.
Red and Blue states dates from 2000:
[link to www.geog.ucsb.edu]
And election fraud has been talked about since the US was
founded.
Do you think the ACLU is only 8 years old? Look up what
those letter stand for.
Hawking has changed his mind over a great many things. The
thing you refer to is from a bet made in 1997, which had a
50/50 chance of being right.
And as far as WMD not being well know there was a movie done
in 1997 that was a play on the very words you claim were not
used much. You also don't seem to remember the first Gulf
War.

I could go on too.

From what I can tell from your post you will clam after
the Olympics happen that Titor predicted the "possibility"
that it might not happen. It's like a religion for some
of you.
 Quoting: DrPostman

Tripe and drivel mod man.

"x-files"? WTF and who cares. life-art

"dan brown"..did he say when it would come on line?...NO....hypothasized only on BH's...next

Angels & Demons ohh an obscure book that sold 4 copies with equally obscure content.

"Taiwan"...show me a link prior to 2000 with this (context) in the headlines....one recognized publication will be fine.

"Election Fraud"....no kidding really.....fraud simce the start?...really...and how about a link to someone pointing to it HAPPENING IN 2000, PRIOR TO 2000...

"Steven Hawkings bet"....Bet? F%$#&*^ please...HE SPENT 30 YEARS WORKING ON THAT THEORY....30 YEARS...sure a bet.

No one is saying he coined the phrase "WMD" mod man, but it certainly didn't become "MEME" 'till waaaaay after the media push in 2002..

give it up mod man....

...I see you didn't want to touch "waco-like events"....

your arguments are old Mod-Man and the fact that you even need to fight this fight says alot.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 421611
4/23/2008 10:13 AM
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