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440Hz to 432Hz

 
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440Hz to 432Hz
The imposed 440Hz
In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. This in spite of that Professor Dussaut from the Paris Conservatory wrote a referendum that was signed by 23,000 French musicians who all were for the preservation of the A= 432Hz. Freedom of choice in bringing back the frequency of the earth is what it's all about today.

432Hz quality
Music on a basis tone of A=432Hz is more transparent, more marked, clearer, gives an obvious musical picture and the Overtones and undertones moves more freely and can multiply themselves more. Music based on 440Hz represents emotions and locks up the head. By lowering the pitch 440Hz - 8Hz to 432Hz, the music changes. Which first was painful to the ear changes into a beautiful, warm music whereby relaxation is natural. Overtones are decisive for the sound, this holds for instruments as well as the human voice. The piano tuned in A= 440Hz creates an artificial clarity and strengthens the high stress levels of today. The instruments on which Mozart and Verdi composed their masterpieces were in 432Hz -is the same as C=256Hz- pitched. The original Stadivarius violin was developed to resonate at 432Hz.
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Re: 440Hz to 432Hz
interesting!
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Very interesting OP!

Got any more?

hf
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thankya!
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Prime example of occult warfare.
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Re: 440Hz to 432Hz
If you want to know more, you can go to
www.432hz.org

Or simply search in Google: 432Hz

You can also find many Pitch Changers or Filters which can change your pitch to 432Hz.
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Re: 440Hz to 432Hz
well i tried it once on my electric guitar an noticed no difference.
besides i want my music to definetly create emotion and definetly not relax the audience.

Your one of these weirdos thats strictly against rock and metal music aren't you.
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Music on a basis tone of A=432Hz is more transparent, more marked, clearer, gives an obvious musical picture and the Overtones and undertones moves more freely and can multiply themselves more.
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are you gay or something?
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Re: 440Hz to 432Hz
classical - [link to www.432hz.nl]
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep"
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Re: 440Hz to 432Hz
Of course, not. I like many kinds of music.

The most types I like is drum'n bass, hardcore and rave. I played at home by changing pitch from 440Hz to 432Hz and there is really a difference.

440Hz, which is the music created in last 60 years, is very agressive when listened longer time.

But music in 432Hz you can listen hours and hours and you will enjoy and won't feel nervous.
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Re: 440Hz to 432Hz

ROCK 440hz

feel those emotions they will take you to another place.

hf
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Thanks OP hf
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The imposed 440Hz
In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394431

[link to www.wam.hr]


In 1896, A=439 Hz became a recognized pitch standard in Britain. In North America, meanwhile, the pitch of pianos
and orchestras not only remained unstandardized in the first decades of the twentieth century but continued to creep upward.


International conferences for the purpose of standardizing pitch had thus far been unsuccessful at drawing in every country having significant orchestras and opera houses. New to the twentieth century was music broadcasting, with its ability to juxtapose for listeners’ ears the live or recorded performances of orchestras in concert halls from any part of the technologized world. In the 1930s, the broadcasting industry made a push towards total standardization of concert pitch in Europe and North American. Success was achieved at a 1939 international conference held in London.


Presumably as a compromise between current tendencies and earlier pitch standards, it was agreed that the international standard for concert pitch would thenceforth be based upon A=440 Hz — very close to the Royal Philharmonic’s A=439 Hz of dubious derivation. The B.B.C. began to broadcast the A=440 Hz tuning note, which, for the sake of accuracy was produced electronically:

The B.B.C. tuning-note is derived from an oscillator controlled by a piezo-electric crystal
that vibrates with a frequency of one million Hz. This is reduced to a frequency of 1,000 Hz
by electronic dividers; it is then multiplied eleven times and divided by twenty-five, so
producing the required frequency of 440 Hz.

As 439 Hz is a prime number a frequency of 439 Hz could not be broadcast by such means as this.
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If you don't believe me, try it yourself and you will hear the difference.
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Re: 440Hz to 432Hz
Dr. Luanne Oakes, author of Spiritual Alchemy, has wourked with sound for decades and on her work she states that the frequency of the earth is 432Hz. I have some old piccolos from the 1800's that I can no longer pitch up to today's tuning. Very sad.

What's really unfortunate is that some military bands are actually now tuning to A=442. Why? Because it gives them a brighter sound....
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well a simple test would be to use cooledit pro.
Shift the pitch down to the required amount, and time stretch it back to its original length to keep the original tempo.
And see if you notice a difference.
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If you don't believe me, try it yourself and you will hear the difference.
 Quoting: OP 394451

if you don't believe me, simply read the paper I linked to and you'll see that pitch _varied wildly_ over time & places - as high as ~ 450.hz at times through the middle ages

finally it came down to 439 vs 440, NOT 432 and by the BRITISH/BBC in LONDON.

the 'feelings' you claim are subjective, but keep in mind a tape recorder (most often cassette) naturally slows down as the batteries become weak - I've seen +/- > 10.Hz (while calibrating for tone decoding)
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I know squat about music. Can the same instrument be tuned to 440hz OR 432hz? How can I hear a difference? Does it sound lower or higher or what. Can I listen to my favorite rapper, Brotha Lynch, in 432 and it will relax me? That'd be the bomb kidstain.
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The imposed 440Hz
In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness.

[link to www.wam.hr]


In 1896, A=439 Hz became a recognized pitch standard in Britain. In North America, meanwhile, the pitch of pianos
and orchestras not only remained unstandardized in the first decades of the twentieth century but continued to creep upward.


International conferences for the purpose of standardizing pitch had thus far been unsuccessful at drawing in every country having significant orchestras and opera houses. New to the twentieth century was music broadcasting, with its ability to juxtapose for listeners’ ears the live or recorded performances of orchestras in concert halls from any part of the technologized world. In the 1930s, the broadcasting industry made a push towards total standardization of concert pitch in Europe and North American. Success was achieved at a 1939 international conference held in London.


Presumably as a compromise between current tendencies and earlier pitch standards, it was agreed that the international standard for concert pitch would thenceforth be based upon A=440 Hz — very close to the Royal Philharmonic’s A=439 Hz of dubious derivation. The B.B.C. began to broadcast the A=440 Hz tuning note, which, for the sake of accuracy was produced electronically:

The B.B.C. tuning-note is derived from an oscillator controlled by a piezo-electric crystal
that vibrates with a frequency of one million Hz. This is reduced to a frequency of 1,000 Hz
by electronic dividers; it is then multiplied eleven times and divided by twenty-five, so
producing the required frequency of 440 Hz.

As 439 Hz is a prime number a frequency of 439 Hz could not be broadcast by such means as this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390181


Don't you think that those who did this, did it because of need or to manipulate humans creating mental lock?
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I know squat about music. Can the same instrument be tuned to 440hz OR 432hz? How can I hear a difference? Does it sound lower or higher or what. Can I listen to my favorite rapper, Brotha Lynch, in 432 and it will relax me? That'd be the bomb kidstain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 264415



Yes, you can.

I listened trance at 432Hz and it is totally new experience.
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How are you slowing down the music? I have professional tools and only can shift time and pitch but not hertz.
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" Many years ago I was enthralled by the sight of a certain genus of flowering plant in a remote mountainous area, being pollinated by bees called by the plants by their emission of a distinct humming sound. After recording the television documentary, I checked the frequency of the fundamental frequency generated by the plants and found it to be 432 Hertz, or cycles per second. This prompted me to place small battery powered sound generators in the flower beds on my farm where I kept bee hives, and to discovering a whole new world of plant and bee intelligence.

All life used to live in synergy, and still strives to, despite the decimation of the environment by humankind. This interdependence establishes harmony on the physical and spiritual planes, each life form being dependent on the other."

To see the rest of this article www.hinduism.co.za/anahata.htm


When the note A is tuned to 432hz it can then be taken to lower and higher octaves giving the frequencies 27hz, 54, 108, 216, 864, 1728 etc. The note D also becomes 576hz which at other octaves is 9hz, 18, 36, 72, 144, 288, 1152 etc. The note E becomes 324hz (81, 162, 648, 1296 etc).

440hz is now the recognized or 'concert pitch' frequency and is used as the standard for tuners, tuning forks, music making programs and musical instruments. It is very close to 432hz and infact many old musical instruments are found to be tuned to this frequency. Most of the classical music was originally concieved at 432hz and it is only in the last 100 years that the pitch has been re-standardised to 440hz.

To many religions the number 432 is more than just a musical pitch and the associated frequencies can be seen mentioned in the following texts.

[link to www.mtvdance.com] hf
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How are you slowing down the music? I have professional tools and only can shift time and pitch but not hertz.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 277001



I am using Audacity Music Editor. It is free and you can find it with Google.

Go to Effects>>Change Pitch>> find tone A and change it from 440Hz to 432Hz.
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Re: selection of 440.Hz

Don't you think that those who did this, did it because of need or to manipulate humans creating mental lock?
 Quoting: OP 394451


as with most things it was done for convenience

..as it plainly states, it's much easier to divide to a whole number than a prime number (when all you have are /2 and /3 flip-flops)

these days it makes no difference but back then flip-flops were built with discrete components so any added complexity exploded the cost/space/power consumption

but most people cannot hear a difference between 439 & 440 (.25 % diff) - audio equipment and musical instruments were typically off by far more than .25 % - up to 10 times this or more


...but now in the digital age this is no longer a concern


musical instruments vary in whether or how much they can be tuned - string instruments can be varied quite a bit while air instruments usually can't - in this case to lower the pitch the internal volume would have to be made greater - not an easy task

if the desired pitch were higher it would be easier - taking away some internal volume by packing something inside (like putty)
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" Many years ago I was enthralled by the sight of a certain genus of flowering plant in a remote mountainous area, being pollinated by bees called by the plants by their emission of a distinct humming sound. After recording the television documentary, I checked the frequency of the fundamental frequency generated by the plants and found it to be 432 Hertz, or cycles per second. This prompted me to place small battery powered sound generators in the flower beds on my farm where I kept bee hives, and to discovering a whole new world of plant and bee intelligence.

All life used to live in synergy, and still strives to, despite the decimation of the environment by humankind. This interdependence establishes harmony on the physical and spiritual planes, each life form being dependent on the other."

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394492



Bees hum the note of B ...which may be why they're called Bees!


article looks very interesting, thanks!
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How are you slowing down the music? I have professional tools and only can shift time and pitch but not hertz.



I am using Audacity Music Editor. It is free and you can find it with Google.

Go to Effects>>Change Pitch>> find tone A and change it from 440Hz to 432Hz.
 Quoting: OP 394451


That worked but it preserves tempo which means it is introducing artifacts. I need to figure out the correct sample rate and then it will be perfect. The music should actually slow down 8 hz.
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That worked but it preserves tempo which means it is introducing artifacts. I need to figure out the correct sample rate and then it will be perfect. The music should actually slow down 8 hz.
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slow down 2%...

cool edit pro 2000 has this function and has high quality settings that make it almost perfect

as far as sample rates

assuming 44,100.. if you 'say' the samplerate is 43,218 that would be 2 % slower (the 8.Hz @ 440 you're aiming for)

so you FILE > OPEN > sample.wav

EDIT > ADJUST SAMPLERATE >

manually type in 43218

OK

then FILE > SAVE

(overwrite original ?)

SAVE AS...
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Why can't you just go to effects, and change HZ from 440 to 432 ? Mine let me do that.
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That worked but it preserves tempo which means it is introducing artifacts. I need to figure out the correct sample rate and then it will be perfect. The music should actually slow down 8 hz.


slow down 2%...

cool edit pro 2000 has this function and has high quality settings that make it almost perfect

as far as sample rates

assuming 44,100.. if you 'say' the samplerate is 43,218 that would be 2 % slower (the 8.Hz @ 440 you're aiming for)

so you FILE > OPEN > sample.wav

EDIT > ADJUST SAMPLERATE >

manually type in 43218

OK

then FILE > SAVE

(overwrite original ?)

SAVE AS...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390181


Ok you gave me an idea. I generated a 440hz sine wave and changed the samplerate until the pitch was 432. I came up with a sample rate of 43297. So all i need to do change music to this samplerate and then convert back to 44100 for playback.
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Why can't you just go to effects, and change HZ from 440 to 432 ? Mine let me do that.
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Ooops... select all, go to effects, change pitch, change C to A and change Hz from 440 to 432


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