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SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.
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cramped
User ID: 388906
3/18/2008 6:57 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Have you ever seen these very wise health nut's jogging,
IN LOS ANGELES! The air is toxic in your very own house in LA but do not dare to be smoking in a public place,my grandmother smoked non filters and enjoyed a beer and a little whisky she was 98 when she died,how did she die?she fell off a piano.Why was she on a piano? she was dancing! |
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LifesReflections*
User ID: 391695
3/18/2008 6:59 PM
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Dear LifesReflections
I wrote this a few years ago.
FOR BEREAVEMENT
LEAVING OUR HOUSE
We leave the physical realm when our lease runs out and it is time for us to create something new.
As we leave our temple shrine, we bring together all that was,
all that is and all that there could ever be.
We accept the pathways that we walked,
the talk and the service that we did provide.
Now reunited with the Godhead once again
coming into full bloom like the power of the full moon.
Let us pray for the magic to begin,
another time, another place
a different dimension from the one that we
once knew.
May peace be with you
Lotus Quoting: Lotus Feet
That was so beautiful, and it resonates completely with my beliefs
Thank you again for your words
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
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Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!' |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 381149
3/18/2008 7:03 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
for gods sakes people do a little reading
[ link to www.nci.nih.gov]
this is National cancer Institute page
During the Cold War, the United States developed and tested nuclear weapons in an effort to deter and to be fully prepared for nuclear attacks from other nations. Most of the above-ground U.S. nuclear tests were conducted in Nevada from 1951 to 1963. As a result of these tests, potentially health-harming radioactive materials were released into the atmosphere and produced fallout.
I-131 was among the radioactive materials released by the atomic bomb tests. It was carried thousands of miles away from the test areas on the winds. Because of wind and rainfall patterns, the distribution of fallout varied widely after each test. Therefore, although all areas of the U.S. received fallout from at least one nuclear weapons test, certain areas of North America received more fallout than others.
They are using Cig smoking to cover for what they did to us
tptb do not want to pay for the damage
This is the reality ahole non smokers.
BTW, Japan had 2 above ground atom boms go off in WW2, the USA had thousands of tests. Japan has the highest amount of smokers in the world, and the lowest lung cancer rate in the world. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390494
3/18/2008 7:05 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Have you ever seen these very wise health nut's jogging,
IN LOS ANGELES! The air is toxic in your very own house in LA but do not dare to be smoking in a public place,my grandmother smoked non filters and enjoyed a beer and a little whisky she was 98 when she died,how did she die?she fell off a piano.Why was she on a piano? she was dancing! Quoting: cramped
...yep - those joggers, filling up their lungs with that toxic air; Just as a bunch of 'miracles' filling up a trailer like a sardine can. |
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Serious Doom
User ID: 304965
3/18/2008 7:08 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ?? Quoting: _
And the retard of the week award goes to...
Every heard of passive smokers? And how many people do you think really are quitting, utter non-sense. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 381149
3/18/2008 7:11 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Passive smokers...HAHAHA...thats the biggest load of propaganda they ever came up with to cover the radioactive dust particles that winds pic up in the desert test areas and drop in your lungs a 1000 miles away.
Sheeple. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 7:14 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Smokers are sometimes very aware of the unnatural dangers of their habits but they keep smoking. The same happens for almost all activities where there is self-indulgence in the making. Quoting: edgar celadus 284955
Errr. Edgar, you're not keepin up with the thread. Lots of smart people on here are posting the truth.
Your language is outdated. You should say "Smokers are aware of the benefits of their habits.
If you still think smoking is bad, why don't you read my initial post on page 1, and then discuss them. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 98008
3/18/2008 7:14 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
What, pray tell, is a passive smoker??? |
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Forfarian
User ID: 370443
3/18/2008 7:15 PM
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- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ??
And the retard of the week award goes to...
Every heard of passive smokers? And how many people do you think really are quitting, utter non-sense. Quoting: Serious Doom
'Retard of the week'?
Look in the mirror, bozo!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 7:16 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Have you ever seen these very wise health nut's jogging,
IN LOS ANGELES! The air is toxic in your very own house in LA but do not dare to be smoking in a public place,my grandmother smoked non filters and enjoyed a beer and a little whisky she was 98 when she died,how did she die?she fell off a piano.Why was she on a piano? she was dancing! Quoting: cramped
An then you got the BRAINWASHED sheeple who will argue, yeah but she was smoking while she fell of the Piano. See that proves it !
Hahahaha. |
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OP
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 7:20 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
What, pray tell, is a passive smoker??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 98008
Passive smoking Belief Syndrome is a person who's brains just fell out, and Unquestionably believes all the TV ads about Passive smoking. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390494
3/18/2008 7:23 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Smokers are sometimes very aware of the unnatural dangers of their habits but they keep smoking. The same happens for almost all activities where there is self-indulgence in the making. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394958
The last time I checked, life was an activity that required self-indulgence. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 7:23 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Serious Doom
Listen to me: You are getting sleepy, you're eyes are heavy...........Repeat after me.
Second hand smoke Kills.
Second hand smoke Kills.
Oh....shit. I got a better idea.
WATCH TV !
Get a lobotomy for FREE !
LOL....... |
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Aumon Haht Fith Ashai
User ID: 375111
3/18/2008 7:25 PM
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actually, Tobacco is a very medicinal plant...
like others have said, its the additives and the paper that are harmful (the tobacco can be if you consume too much, but most will quit before that limit is reached, as they will be vomiting and coughing profusely by that time)
what you need is fresh, ORGANIC, UNTREATED, properly cured tobacco, and all-hemp papers (bob marley brand are good ones),... the cellulite papers are also pretty good
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!
A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
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In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.
This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.
I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!
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as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi
"the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me |
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OP
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 7:26 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
just google cancer fallout
its in the dirt and dust , every time the wind blows , You could get cancer Quoting: Bigboat
Right. Thanks for reminding about that part of the equation.
Totally forgot. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 7:31 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
actually, Tobacco is a very medicinal plant...
like others have said, its the additives and the paper that are harmful (the tobacco can be if you consume too much, but most will quit before that limit is reached, as they will be vomiting and coughing profusely by that time)
what you need is fresh, ORGANIC, UNTREATED, properly cured tobacco, and all-hemp papers (bob marley brand are good ones),... the cellulite papers are also pretty good Quoting: Aumon Haht Fith Ashai
Right.
Also, not many people know this, but the rolling papers that come with Nat. American. Spirits rolling tobacco, is made outta FLAX SEED.
Now if that would do that with the Mfg. cigs, they'd make Corporation of the Year list. |
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GONG
User ID: 394850
3/18/2008 7:35 PM
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Also the nano particles are causing cancers at a rate never seen in recorded history.
Nano particles are killers because they go directly in your bloodstream and accumulate inside the organs and they are everywhere today.
“Skepticism is the easiest way: believe nothing, do nothing.
UFO sightings archives [link to www.v-servers.eu] |
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Munster
User ID: 259429
3/18/2008 7:36 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I might not be worthy of clinical recognition, but as a lifelong smoker I stopped coughing up phlegm within three weeks after quiting cigarettes a few months ago. Unfortunately, this comment will be discounted by pro-smokers. To each their own... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 7:41 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I might not be worthy of clinical recognition, but as a lifelong smoker I stopped coughing up phlegm within three weeks after quiting cigarettes a few months ago. Unfortunately, this comment will be discounted by pro-smokers. To each their own... Quoting: Munster
The question you have to ask yourself is...... were you coughing up phlegm as a result of tobacco clogging your lungs, or were you coughing up plegm because tobacco is helping your body get rid of the daily Pollution you're breathin' ?
For a clue, go to page 1 of this post. |
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Munster
User ID: 259429
3/18/2008 7:48 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
The question you have to ask yourself is...... were you coughing up phlegm as a result of tobacco clogging your lungs, or were you coughing up plegm because tobacco is helping your body get rid of the daily Pollution you're breathin' ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394958
Every other parameter in my life remains the same as it has for years. Quiting cigarette smoking is the only variable. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373131
3/18/2008 7:49 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Methinks this thread is full of addicted smokers trying desperately to rationalize to themselves that they don't need to quit. My grandmother is 85 and has smoked since she was 14, but guess what, every time she laughs she goes into a coughing fit for about 5 minutes. Smoke Up Suckers! |
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<October>
User ID: 312470
3/18/2008 7:50 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Tobacco might not be so bad, but the added chemicals in cigarettes and filters are deadly and highly addictive. And I'm a smoker. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349426
Yup; me too.
And I'm NOT healthy, eh!
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 7:56 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Methinks this thread is full of addicted smokers trying desperately to rationalize to themselves Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373131
Yeah, below is my "desperate" rationality.
If you're not smart enough to read this and get, can't do much for ya. Sorry.
The ancient medicinal plant tobacco (in use by humans for 4,000 years) is the Scapegoat used by the Chemical and Oil industries.
-- Toxic pollution causes cancer. BUT what do you hear, drilled into your brains daily? Tobacco.
-- Why is it, we have this huge increase in lung cancer and other cancers, EXACTLY coinciding with the Industrial Revolution??
--GOOGLE " Cover up chemical industry"
A little common sense will tell you what happens when you breath in Diesel, Car exhaust fumes and Factory fumes, every single day, 7 days a week, all year long. For years on end.
-- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ??
-- Ask any smoker if he gets a lot of colds a year. They'll answer not that many.
Ask a non-smoker. They'll answer they get a lot.
--Historically, the California Desert indians smoked tobacco, to cure a cold.
[ link to academic.udayton.edu]
-- Could it be the smokers cough, is tobacco causing the lungs to expel the effects of pollution?
-- FINALLY here's the clincher. WHEN has the Mass Media EVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH ??????? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394308
3/18/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I might not be worthy of clinical recognition, but as a lifelong smoker I stopped coughing up phlegm within three weeks after quiting cigarettes a few months ago. Unfortunately, this comment will be discounted by pro-smokers. To each their own...
The question you have to ask yourself is...... were you coughing up phlegm as a result of tobacco clogging your lungs, or were you coughing up plegm because tobacco is helping your body get rid of the daily Pollution you're breathin' ?
For a clue, go to page 1 of this post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394958
Get a clue, tobacco rep. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 362074
3/18/2008 8:07 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Sounds more like drunkards than smokers. What clumsy(rich) people you must know.
The problem is how it makes you and your surroundings look and smell.
Then there is:
The digging in the trash for a butt at 3am like some kind of starving rodent. Having to stop on road trips and stand outside in a fucking blizzard just to take a couple of drags. Scrubbing your fingers with steel wool and comet to get rid of nicotine stains. Taking your $200 slacks to the cleaners and asking them if they can fix a burn hole in the crotch. Taking your car in to see if they can fix a burn hole in the leather seat under your crotch. Swerving in traffic and risking your life and other's while your crotch is fucking on fire....
It might be healthy but its not worth it.
Being a world class fuckwit while posting on the internet is also bad for other's mental and physical health Packnfudge. |
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Lastone
User ID: 395143
3/18/2008 8:09 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
NOP PEOPLE
Take a pause and think a litle with me...
The taxes on T. are very high...
They are doing what they can to make you stop smoking... why?
Do you think it is because it is bad for you?
If you're giving them money, WHY ? Because you spend more money in Hospitals ??
NOP... I do not think so !!!
NOW .. A question?
What happens to a person that is use to smooke metals... and all does bad things in T. ? What will happen if they try to give you bad things.. ... Chaimtrails etc..... ?
NOTHING !!! Your body is use to them !! You develope defenses to does things. Your body will not feeel the poison as they give it to you.
It is like snake poison.. if your use to it.. an a snake bits you, you've the anti-poison in your BLOOD !!!
Yes smooking is bad...it is not good for your body... but that is not the reason they want you to stop smooking!
OK... I'M CRAZY!!!.. AM I ??? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394958 (OP)
3/18/2008 8:13 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Get a clue, tobacco rep. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394308
Lot of smart people on here. Guess they're all reps too, huh?
Repent and join them.
You can beat your I-BELIEVE-EVERYTHING-THE-MEDIA-TELLS-ME-ADDICTION.
It's not too late. |
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Wraithwynd
User ID: 360108
3/18/2008 8:21 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Father's side of my line:
Grandmother: Lymphoma cancer - died age 49 - non-smoker.
Grandfather: Still alive, age 98 - smoker and whiskey drinker.
Their kids:
Aunt: 65-67 (uncertain) Smoker still alive.
1 Child, died age 6 drunk driver.
Uncle: Car accident Died around age 35
No children.
Father: 71 still alive, smoker.
Mother's Side:
Grandmother: Died 78 - suffered from osteo issues, her vertebra literally crushed down over the years. Cause of death, heart failure due to being bent over nearly double. She smoked.
- Her mother lived to age 98, smoker died peacefully in her sleep.
-Her Father died 55-56 - ran down by a train - he smoked.
Grandfather: 93 (?) still alive, smoker.
-His Mother died 100 (or 99) Smoked, drank - died from "old age"
-His Father Died 91-92 smoked and drank - old age.
--His Father lived to 105.
Their kids:
Aunt 1: Died age 23 gunshot wound to the head
--> No children
No husband.
Aunt 2: Died age 43 liver failure.
--> one child, smokes still alive - mid 40's
Husband Still alive, mid 60's smokes - lives with 20 something girlfriend in great health.
Aunt 3: Age 66-68 Smokes still alive.
4 kids- Ranging from 30's to 40's all alive, all smoke all in good health.
First Husband died in steel mill - second husband still alive, late 60's, smokes, gambles and drinks.
Aunt 4: Age 65-67 Smokes Still alive.
3 Kids - 2 alive, smoke, in good health. One died from Mesotheloma (Cancer caused by asbestos) Ironically non-smoker.
3 husbands - First still alive, Mid 70's, smokes.
Second dead - suicide.
Current Alive, mid 70's smokes.
Mother: Age 63 Smokes, still alive.
-Current husband mid 70's, smokes - laid up due to serious knee problems caused by car accident in his 40's.
Eldest brother: died age 33 - HIV/AIDS
Middle Brother: died age 6 months - SIDS
Self Mid 40's smokes still in good health.
My Great Grandmother's mother(Mother's side) lived to a reputed 110, her husband lived to 108-9 Both smoked.
There are a few great aunt and great uncles around as well - in their 80's and 90's - living in their own homes, in good health - all smoke and/or drink.
Lymphoma and Mesotheloma are NOT tobacco related cancers. So they do not count. The rest of my family appears to thrive while smoking.
Aside from accident and other illnesses my family tends to live a fairly long and in good health.
My Mother has done my family tree and found that our line tend to come from long lived people.
Heart disease, stroke, diabetes, cancers, and high blood pressure appear to be uncommon in my family tree. Most if not all of the deaths of earlier ages are accidental or murder. Those who survive the rigors of life tend to live well past retirement - in general good health.
My Spouses family tends to die earlier, a much higher instance of heart disease and stroke. Also the younger ones tend to pickle their livers, dying from liver related issues.
I think when it comes to my family I can demonstrate a correlation between where folk live and how old they live.
Most of my family still resides on farms in the rural country areas. Ironically those who go to the Big City tend to die, or become injured or are otherwise harmed by the City and end up dying earlier.
I doubt that smoking has that big of an impact on a person's life or their general overall health. Diet, exercise and genetic disposition most likely has the larger impact where if you are already genetically prone to cancer, heart disease, etc smoking does not help you. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390494
3/18/2008 8:21 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
The question you have to ask yourself is...... were you coughing up phlegm as a result of tobacco clogging your lungs, or were you coughing up plegm because tobacco is helping your body get rid of the daily Pollution you're breathin' ?
Every other parameter in my life remains the same as it has for years. Quiting cigarette smoking is the only variable. Quoting: Munster
Learn how to spell 'quiter',
quitter. |
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Lastone
User ID: 395143
3/18/2008 8:35 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
NOP PEOPLE
Take a pause and think a litle with me...
The taxes on T. are very high...
They are doing what they can to make you stop smoking... why?
Do you think it is because it is bad for you?
If you're giving them money, WHY ? Because you spend more money in Hospitals ??
NOP... I do not think so !!!
NOW .. A question?
What happens to a person that is use to smooke metals... and all does bad things in T. ? What will happen if they try to give you bad things.. ... Chaimtrails etc..... ?
NOTHING !!! Your body is use to them !! You develope defenses to does things. Your body will not feeel the poison as they give it to you.
It is like snake poison.. if your use to it.. an a snake bits you, you've the anti-poison in your BLOOD !!!
Yes smooking is bad...it is not good for your body... but that is not the reason they want you to stop smooking!
OK... I'M CRAZY!!!.. AM I ??? Quoting: Lastone 395143
I'M NOT SAYING T. IS GOOD OK... WHAT YOU BUY IS BAD !!
VERY VERY BAD.. BUT THAT IS NOT MY POINT.. !!
THE QUESTION ... WHY THEY ARE "NOW" DOING EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOU STOP SMOOKING .. THAT IS MY POINT
They did everything to make you smooke ... now they are doing everything to make you stop... WHY ??? |
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