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SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 388336
3/18/2008 10:56 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
the tissue in our lungs do get replaced by younger and newer lung cells |
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OP
User ID: 395636
3/19/2008 1:30 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Not only that, but scientists now think the honeybees are dying because of tobacco-based pesticides. Quoting: Claycat
Of course they do sweetheart, of course they do.
I'll say it once, an I'll say it again.
TOBACCO IS THE ROOT OF ALL DISEASES KNOWN TO MAN ! ! !
Errrrr, and Mistah Scientiiiist, Pollution plays no part?
Dumbfucks. |
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OP
User ID: 395636
3/19/2008 1:41 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
If you're a Machine and are doing your duty, believing every single word Mass Media tells you then DO NOT read this:
The ancient medicinal plant tobacco (in use by humans for 4,000 years) is the Scapegoat used by the Chemical and Oil industries.
-- Toxic pollution causes cancer. BUT what do you hear, drilled into your brains daily? Tobacco.
-- Why is it, we have this huge increase in lung cancer and other cancers, EXACTLY coinciding with the Industrial Revolution??
--GOOGLE " Cover up chemical industry"
A little common sense will tell you what happens when you breath in Diesel, Car exhaust fumes and Factory fumes, every single day, 7 days a week, all year long. For years on end.
-- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ??
-- Ask any smoker if he gets a lot of colds a year. They'll answer not that many.
Ask a non-smoker. They'll answer they get a lot.
--Historically, the California Desert indians smoked tobacco, to cure a cold.
[ link to academic.udayton.edu]
-- Could it be the smokers cough, is tobacco causing the lungs to expel the effects of pollution?
-- FINALLY here's the clincher. WHEN has the Mass Media EVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH ??????? |
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A. Smoker
User ID: 395660
3/19/2008 2:02 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I cant pass up a good tobacco thread!
Title is true. And I don't lie.... smoking since 1975 and attribute my long life and good health to....
NOT DRINKING ALCOHOL!
Our state government is run by a bunch of damn alcoholics and they all hate cigarettes. Hence the crazy new laws. They are laughing all the way to the bank!
So what am I to do? I can't go to a restaraunt, bar, bowling alley or even work a regular job without kissing the collective non-smoking ass. Sucks to live in Washington now. If this wasn't a nationwide phenonmenon I would pack up and vote with my feet.
Assholes. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379765
3/19/2008 2:12 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Thank you. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395673
3/19/2008 2:31 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I always knew it! If it was bad for us and would kill us the government would not bother! THEY would rather promote it! Depopulation! ;-) |
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OP
User ID: 395636
3/19/2008 2:36 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I always knew it! If it was bad for us and would kill us the government would not bother! THEY would rather promote it! Depopulation! ;-) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 395673
BINGO.
Can't have something that keeps you healthy.
Bad for business (Profit from Disease - Big Pharma)and bad for Depopulation. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395678
3/19/2008 2:39 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
for gods sakes people do a little reading
[ link to www.nci.nih.gov]
this is National cancer Institute page
During the Cold War, the United States developed and tested nuclear weapons in an effort to deter and to be fully prepared for nuclear attacks from other nations. Most of the above-ground U.S. nuclear tests were conducted in Nevada from 1951 to 1963. As a result of these tests, potentially health-harming radioactive materials were released into the atmosphere and produced fallout.
I-131 was among the radioactive materials released by the atomic bomb tests. It was carried thousands of miles away from the test areas on the winds. Because of wind and rainfall patterns, the distribution of fallout varied widely after each test. Therefore, although all areas of the U.S. received fallout from at least one nuclear weapons test, certain areas of North America received more fallout than others.
They are using Cig smoking to cover for what they did to us
tptb do not want to pay for the damage
THAT'S WHY VEGETABLES ARE CANCEROUS!!!!!!!!! |
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INK
User ID: 390484
3/19/2008 3:10 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I used to be a smoker, and frankly I loved every cigarette that I ever smoked. However, it's been three years and I'm glad I quit. My house smells much better and so do my clothes, also have not had any colds or sinus infections since quitting. But once again, I truly loved to smoke and occasionally miss it. So smoke 'em if you've got 'em and have one for me :) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 201927
3/19/2008 3:37 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Then how come smokers can't run for shit. All of my friends smoke. Anytime they come to my apartment which is only on the 3 rd floor they are all out of wind by the time the get to my door. I on the other hand have no problems what so ever.
Let me see..............Cause mabbe you're USED to running up 3 flights o stair, and they aren't ?!
Ever try that same test on non-smokers, or should I say "Pollution inhalers."
:) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394958
Actually my mother who is 59 years old has no issues coming up to the third floor. She does not smoke. My father who has been smoking for 30 years can barly talk hes so out of wind when he gets up. Do you honestly believe that smoking does not destroy your lung capacity? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395714
3/19/2008 3:40 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Our state government is run by a bunch of damn alcoholics and they all hate cigarettes. Quoting: A. Smoker 395660
It is very necessary to adjust your statement
"a little bit":
I have seen enough alcoholics, who are simultaneously chain smokers (or at least strong smokers).
Conclusion:
Being plain stupid in one way alone, seems not to be enough for some completely unteachable people, which means that they drink AND smoke, as if there is no tomorrow.
Smoking is just plain stupid. Which truely smart person
would inhale WASTE GASES from burning cigarettes VOLUNTARILY?
Drinking is just plain stupid, too.
Which truely smart person would drink a CYTOTOXIN
like alcohol VOLUNTARILY?
What would happen to this earth and its inhabitants,
if ALL people would be so dumb and undisciplined to surrender to their bad habits and vices?
It would be a living hell,
even more than it is already.
It seems, that massive problems like wars and poverty and environmental pollution etc. are even still not bad enough problems, so mankind invents even more selfinflicted trouble, so the madness can continue and even grow further.
Future generations (if there ever will be future generations, when you look at the staggering stupidity of mankind and how mankind is squandering away its future)
will certainly wonder about the fact, how primitive their ancestors were, because their pitiable ancestors consumed WASTE GASES and CYTOTOXIN, as if it were their daily bread and not deadly poisons instead. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395714
3/19/2008 3:46 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Typo:
Correct is "truly" instead of the wrong "truely". |
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Bigboat
User ID: 308340
3/19/2008 4:23 PM
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Then how come smokers can't run for shit. All of my friends smoke. Anytime they come to my apartment which is only on the 3 rd floor they are all out of wind by the time the get to my door. I on the other hand have no problems what so ever.
Let me see..............Cause mabbe you're USED to running up 3 flights o stair, and they aren't ?!
Ever try that same test on non-smokers, or should I say "Pollution inhalers."
:)
Actually my mother who is 59 years old has no issues coming up to the third floor. She does not smoke. My father who has been smoking for 30 years can barly talk hes so out of wind when he gets up. Do you honestly believe that smoking does not destroy your lung capacity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 201927
you father need to do 30 min a day on a tread mill
start slow and work up to the full time
how fat is he ?
I have been smoking for 50 years .
I can still do a 100 yards in 10 sec |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 392825
3/19/2008 4:27 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
:)
you father need to do 30 min a day on a tread mill
start slow and work up to the full time
how fat is he ?
I have been smoking for 50 years .
I can still do a 100 yards in 10 sec Quoting: Bigboat
TRY A 220! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 365474
3/19/2008 4:27 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
i only smoke mild Swedish tobacco rolled by myself with hemp papers
I play basketball, hike up 10,000 foot mountains, run on trails, ride a mountain bike, etc...
ask the guys on the court that I just beat for a fast break layup if smoking a bit of natural, roll your owns is hurting me that bad....
Then how come smokers can't run for shit. All of my friends smoke. Anytime they come to my apartment which is only on the 3 rd floor they are all out of wind by the time the get to my door. I on the other hand have no problems what so ever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 201927 |
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Bigboat
User ID: 308340
3/19/2008 4:43 PM
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:)
you father need to do 30 min a day on a tread mill
start slow and work up to the full time
how fat is he ?
I have been smoking for 50 years .
I can still do a 100 yards in 10 sec
TRY A 220! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 392825
30 min on the tread mill is about 5280ft or 1760 yards |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395742
3/19/2008 4:48 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I've smoked for about seven years and rarely get sick..
..I enjoy smoking - that's why I haven't quit.
Sometimes I wonder if it truly is as dangerous as mainstream medicine makes it out to be..
..it definitely will run down on your stamina and nothing is healthy when used in excess..
.. so I should definitely cut down..
..but quit..???
Nah. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287857
3/19/2008 4:49 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Natural tobacco is less harmful
actually radiation is drawn to tobacco leaves more readily for some reason-
I also know that to rid the body of DU(depleted uranium) in the lungs or at least assist in expectorating it that cigarettes work very well.
In smoking herbal supplements, they have finally admitted to the cannabinoid receptors that are located in the brain, the intestines and they have found additional receptors in the joint spaces. These are found in all mammals regardless of whether they have ever smoked Kaneh Bos(m) or not
In Genesis, "...all plants and herbs, those bearing seed, I give unto man..."
Man has made strong alcohol legal and herb illegal
believe the Most High or believe man-
I rarely drink alcohol but smoke
almost 5 decades-I have remained active and have good lung volume. I am able to climb stairs equal to most non smokers, close in age. Actually in much better shape than most my age-but I believe staying active is important as how one thinks/their attitude.
I roll my own and use filters with tobacco
should be an individuals right to choose-without violating others who choose differently imho |
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Ignatius J. Reilly
User ID: 395752
3/19/2008 4:56 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
tobacco can be useful in moderation. Like 6-10 a day at most. If you're smoking packs, expect any benefits to be blown out your ass in a cancer frenzied blood letting. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395714
3/19/2008 5:12 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I roll my own and use filters with tobacco
should be an individuals right to choose-without violating others who choose differently imho
You just made a very important statement,
but maybe in a significantly other way,
than you thought or intended primordially.
Did you ever notice, how many smokers STILL
do not ask, if they can smoke, for example
when being in a room with non-smokers?
Did you ever notice, how many little kids
etc. are unwillingly the VICTIMS of their
smoking and drinking parents?
For me as a non-smoker, it is some sort
of physical injury and violation of my rights,
perpetrated against me, when a smoker smokes when i
share the same room etc.
And a child etc. which has to endure a drinking
and often violent parent etc. is a victim in many ways,
because it is unwillingly so called co-dependent etc.
The personal freedom of smokers and alcohol-drinkers
and drug- and medicament-abusers etc. ENDS AND HAS TO END, when the personal freedom of other (abstinent living)
people is violated, who do not want to participate
in such senseless activities (neither actively nor passively) and who want therefore to avoid the resulting
bad consequences of such senseless actions. |
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Bigboat
User ID: 308340
3/19/2008 5:17 PM
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tobacco can be useful in moderation. Like 6-10 a day at most. If you're smoking packs, expect any benefits to be blown out your ass in a cancer frenzied blood letting. Quoting: Ignatius J. Reilly 395752
got a link for that ? |
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Turtles Know 
Warning: Turtles Bite
User ID: 286176
3/19/2008 5:23 PM
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I had a surgery go awry several years ago, I then had emergency surgery and was left with open wounds for months with nurses coming to the house twice a day. They were all on me about smoking, that it would prohibit my healing, but then they were amazed how quickly I healed.
Since then I started rolling my own, at the time I was smoking Nat Shermans and Djharum (sp), clove and vanilla, yum. Where would one find hemp papers?
My father a smoker died at 66, ate up with cancer, brain, lung and other, he was a WWII vet, stationed in the South Pacific and witness to some bomb testing. My mom, 74, is still alive and smoked for more than 40 years.
My grandparents (mother) on one side lived to their late 80s, one was a smoker,the other lived with a smoker.
My grandparents on the other side (father), bitter, angry people, died at 60, stoke and 72, pneumonia, both smokers.
My uncles lived into the 80s, smokers, except one who died in his 60s of heart disease, he also had quite a drinking problem. One aunt who has passed died of cancer and did not smoke, the other is still alive and is a smoker. Another aunt died (daughter of the angry, bitter people) in her 50s of heart disease and pneumonia after a lot of therapy, drugs, shock therapy and escape from a well known southern mental institution, she was a smoker.
I saw a study recently where a research team was studying long life and looking at 97-year-olds and up, 20% were smokers and still kicking.
I have to wonder why our government would be so concerned about our smoking when they say aspartame is safe, as are anti-depressants, there is something deeper going on. Especially considering a lot of oncologists, when asked if they would take typical chemotherapy or radition, stated they would deny it.
It's funny how on a "conspiracy" site folks just tow the government line that smoking is bad and harmful, without for a second looking in another direction. Guess that's what makes horse races or something.
No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763
A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
[link to turtlesvoice.blogspot.com] |
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* <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
3/19/2008 5:37 PM
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The ancient medicinal plant tobacco (in use by humans for 4,000 years) is the Scapegoat used by the Chemical and Oil industries.
-- Toxic pollution causes cancer. BUT what do you hear, drilled into your brains daily? Tobacco.
-- Why is it, we have this huge increase in lung cancer and other cancers, EXACTLY coinciding with the Industrial Revolution??
--GOOGLE " Cover up chemical industry"
A little common sense will tell you what happens when you breath in Diesel, Car exhaust fumes and Factory fumes, every single day, 7 days a week, all year long. For years on end.
-- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ??
-- Ask any smoker if he gets a lot of colds a year. They'll answer not that many.
Ask a non-smoker. They'll answer they get a lot.
--Historically, the California Desert indians smoked tobacco, to cure a cold.
[ link to academic.udayton.edu]
-- Could it be the smokers cough, is tobacco causing the lungs to expel the effects of pollution?
-- FINALLY here's the clincher. WHEN has the Mass Media EVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH ???????
Yes the air is filth ..and the water is filth and the food is filth ...but why add more filth the the lungs with cigs ....we already have enough filth to deal with. Fuck cigs I hate them filthy disgusting things. They stink and they leave a bad aftertaste in the mouth. And i can breathe a million times better since i quit smoking cigs years ago. And i never smoked them filthy things for long in my life. But when i did i felt sooooo stupid. Thank God i had the brains and will to quit.
Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.
Be brave young warriors in truth.
[link to www.youtube.com]
Only a miracle will save us now.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395714
3/19/2008 5:44 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
It's funny how on a "conspiracy" site folks just tow the government line that smoking is bad and harmful, without for a second looking in another direction. Guess that's what makes horse races or something. Quoting: Turtles Know
I am able to make my own personal observations
and i am able to form my own opinion.
Besides that, i use public accessible
information too, of course.
The following story still makes me very angry:
During my job-education in an european country,
i was forced to share the office of my pipe-smoking trainer.
One time, he even asked me, if i was a smoker and i said no.
And guess, what comes now?
This stupidd and ignorant man, who should never have been a trainer in the first place, continued to smoke AND
used PERFUMED tobacco for his pipe,
while i, as a non-smoker,
had to sit beside him in the office.
Why did this FOOL ask me so hypocritically,
if i was a smoker and when i said no, he smoked anyway?
What a dumb and selfabsorbed and ignorant bastard.
End of story:
His Perfumed tobacco caused the worst headaches,
which i ever had to endure, it almost blowed my head away.
This continued for many weeks, until i came into another office during my education. In this new office,
there were fortunately friendly non-smokers and i was very glad to be there with them, amongst REASONABLE people.
And now, can you give me the answer,
where there is a "conspiracy" in this?
This is no conspiracy, these are sad and true facts, point. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395752
3/19/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
tobacco can be useful in moderation. Like 6-10 a day at most. If you're smoking packs, expect any benefits to be blown out your ass in a cancer frenzied blood letting.
got a link for that ? Quoting: Bigboat
Edgar Cayce told me in a dream.
www.mybrainindreams.com |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395714
3/19/2008 6:00 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Yes the air is filth ..and the water is filth and the food is filth ...but why add more filth the the lungs with cigs ....we already have enough filth to deal with. Fuck cigs I hate them filthy disgusting things. They stink and they leave a bad aftertaste in the mouth. And i can breathe a million times better since i quit smoking cigs years ago. And i never smoked them filthy things for long in my life. But when i did i felt sooooo stupid. Thank God i had the brains and will to quit. Quoting: * <----star of destiny
I admire you, because you, as an ex-smoker,
are so kind to admit, that it was an error and silly to smoke.
Besides that, you are so smart to share the very good news,
that your health etc. is now much better than it was,
before you quitted smoking.
And that you are humble and thank God,
is very nice indeed :-)
Many smokers or ex-smokers are unfortunately
not so honest as you are.
It would be very wise, if many smokers would follow your good example.
Congratulations to you! :-) |
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OP
User ID: 395958
3/19/2008 11:05 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Smoking is just plain stupid. Which truely smart person
would inhale WASTE GASES from burning cigarettes VOLUNTARILY?.....
.......how primitive their ancestors were, because their pitiable ancestors consumed WASTE GASES and CYTOTOXIN, as if it were their daily bread and not deadly poisons instead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 395714
Einstein.
We're the future generation. American Indians and Indigenous people have been inhaling tobacco for approx 4000 years. I repeat, 4000 years.
Historically tobacco was known as a medicinal plant, until the advent of the Commercialization of the 20th century.
My advice to you?
Turn of the Propaganda machine. You're turning stupid. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395958
3/19/2008 11:24 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Did you ever notice, how many smokers STILL
do not ask, if they can smoke, for example
when being in a room with non-smokers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 395714
That's because they know on an unconscious (or conscious) level that smoking is good for you, AND you as a non-smoker are getting the benefits of it.
Heresay?
In this political and Big Pharma controlled atmosphere.
Absolutely.
Non-heresay.
Go to page 1 and refute my points. I dare you. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 395965
3/19/2008 11:26 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
My father died as a direct result of smoking for 50 years. My mother, who smoked for 30 years, is now dying of lung cancer. I will probably follow in their footsteps because I smoked as well. Don't tell me it's healthy. You're a fucking idiot. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 375755
3/19/2008 11:32 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
yea, tell that to my Mother who died in 1994 at the age of 54 with..... lung cancer.... Quoting: LifesReflections*
my Mother died in 2005 at age 60 from small cell lung cancer and she smoked but she had and older sister who died from the same small cell lung cancer, funny thing is she never drank or smoked at all so I am a little skeptical on how people can just say smoking causes cancer and none of the chemicals in our food and the shiiitte in our air from Factories???? |
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