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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 396379
3/20/2008 3:46 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Does the OP work for a tobacco firm by chance. |
| OP
User ID: 396282
3/20/2008 4:05 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Does the OP work for a tobacco firm by chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396379
Nope.
I'm one of the owners. My founding father was Sir Walter Raleigh. I sleep on tobacco bales. My shoelaces are specially made out of tobacco............
Huh. I guess if you bring up intelligent points about a Socially Engineered hysteria in a world of Believing Authority, you automatically work for said product?
Weird way of thinking?! |
| Dexter
User ID: 150864
3/20/2008 4:25 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Hey OP, I just quit smoking a little over a week ago. I am coughing up black crap multiple times a day. I can breathe a full, deep breath. The bags under my eyes are dissipating. I can move more quickly, go longer distances without being winded, and I can recover more quickly when I do become winded than I have been able to do within the past 16 years (of smoking). I am not yet fully recovered, I understand I have a long way to go, but my lungs feel like they are re-building themselves.
Now in regards to smoking and colds...hey I dunno you may have a point, as I don't get sick often. I'll let you know in a few years (assuming I stay quit) if I have started to get sick more often now that I quit. I feel so much better. No weezing all day, no coughing all night. No hacking up a lung first thing in the morning. (well the occasional mini hacking still as my lungs clear all the tar from themselves).
I generally feel like I have more energy, I feel more alive than ever, as if a fog is lifting from me.
So....put that in yer pipe n smoke it, cuz no matter how I look at it, smoking is a very bad, very toxic, very nasty habbit. The Natives used it cerimoniously , not smoking on the hour every hour every day...there is a big difference. The body was never built to take in such a massive ammount of toxic pollutants.
Quit, then come back and tell me how much better you felt while you were smoking, and how you could breathe so much better while smoking...I dare you. |
| Smokey
User ID: 303147
3/20/2008 4:44 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
This is A Pro-smoking promotional poemercial
Smoke your way to supreme health, and enjoy that luxurious thick smoke, as it fills your lungs with love tar. Try sleeping with a lit cigarette, and even enjoy that fulfilling puff, during dreams. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384982
3/20/2008 6:49 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
FYI. the Vitamin NIACIN comes from, guess where.... NICOTINIC acid. How is that for laughs. So why is nicotine considered dangerous???? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 396602
3/20/2008 10:29 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Uhuh.
Yo EINSTEIN. You show me anywhere in my original post where I'm saying smoke 5 cartons a day.
You're fukin "brilliant". Using your logic I'm supposed to go out and drink 8 gallons of water. Water's healthy right?
You givin me a headache son.
No Sir, you give us a headache.
I am a non-smoker and i inhale air 24 hours a day,
as mother nature intended it, since human beings exist
and i and many other people feel fine by doing so.
I need no cigarettes and i need no tobacco-products,
neither "natural", nor industrial modified stuff.
And i never in my whole life needed tobacco for medical purposes.
And if i would have ever needed tobacco for medical purposes, then i, as a non-smoker, would have looked at your thread only, if you had correctly stated, right from the start, in your thread title, that your thread is only about tobacco for medical purposes, which it is not as a matter of fact, because you wrote very misleading instead:
"SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO."
You falsely claim, that smoking is healthy
and further you deliberately mix the smoking issue up with the completely unrelated issue about tobacco for medical purposes.
By saying that, you imply, that the more you smoke,
the more healthy you get, which is nonsense.
When you say, that smoking is healty, than you imply,
that when you smoke more, then you get healthier,
which is wrong.
Your "logic" is flawed beyound words.
A non-smoker does not have to reduce or to control the amount of air, which he/she inhales 24 hours a day,
but a smoker has to reduce or to control the amount of cigarettes etc., he/she smokes, or otherwise certain death looms within a very short time span.
And because you have no logical counter-arguments,
you now even bring the flawed example about drinking certain amounts of water.
You continue to change the topic, when you are desperate
and you continue to mix unrelated things up, which have nothing to do with each other.
What has drinking water to do with smoking?
You sound either like an unteachable smoker
or a paid shill of the modern tobacco-industry.
If smoking would "only" be your private "pleasure",
why are you then trying so very desperately,
to boost your wrong and flawed agenda,
when you try to lure other people with the bait,
that smoking is healthy (which it is not)?
As another poster wrote some hours ago, your thread title
is misleading and maybe you did this on purpose in order to boost your questionable agenda.
If you want to write about tobacco for medical purposes,
then have the guts to use the correct thread title "Tobacco is maybe useful for certain medical purposes".
What you did instead is that you wrote "SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO."
and then you deliberately changed the topic and wrote about tobacco for medical purposes etc.
Stop making promotion on a public board for smoking (under the guise that tobacco can have certain medical purposes).
Smoking as a "pleasure" and for private "fun"
has nothing and will never have anything to do
with the usage of tobacco for certain medical purposes.
OP, when will you finally grasp and accept that?
I, as a NON-smoker, even inhaled cigarette-smoke once, in order to test it and i immediately sensed the aura of looming disease and death (already while making my first inhalation ever) and of course i continued to stay a NON-smoker.
You sound very desperate indeed.
My advice is, that if you maybe work for the tobacco industry and maybe worry about your subsiding profit and your job-security etc., then search another job and you will feel much better soon.
When you follow this advice, then you will have the additional advantage, that you will never ever have the need or pressure again, to make public promotion for smoking, which is an unhealty, expensive and senseless activity. |
| Raul Castro
User ID: 396595
3/20/2008 10:33 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Quit, then come back and tell me how much better you felt while you were smoking, and how you could breathe so much better while smoking...I dare you. Quoting: Dexter 150864
Be honest Dexter... did you smoke those chemical laden "normal" cigarettes?
I ONLY smoke small Dutch cigars, moderately.
I'm 56 and DON'T have a medical record in the system, except for treatment I received recently for a poisonous spider bite.
The point is: weird chemical shit in your water, air, food, residue in the clothes you wear, the house you live in does damage.
Nothing much, by the way, is put into the public arena by the media about how bad these rhings are for you.
The human body was never meant to ingest stuff made in a laboratory.
As far as the Smoking Is Evil Campaign goes my take on it is that it is in essence an experiment in mind control.
A gauge to see how far people can be persuaded to Mind Someone Else's Business rather than mind their own.
The other strategies are just a little too blatatnt for even the sheep.
Spy on you neighbor, open his mail, listen to his conversations??
Hey is that just a bit...?
But fly into a state of moral outrage when someone is doing something that they enjoy?
Don't some people just love doing that?
In the Middle Ages it was witches.
Now it's smokers. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 396602
3/20/2008 11:34 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
As far as the Smoking Is Evil Campaign goes my take on it is that it is in essence an experiment in mind control.
A gauge to see how far people can be persuaded to Mind Someone Else's Business rather than mind their own.
The other strategies are just a little too blatatnt for even the sheep.
Spy on you neighbor, open his mail, listen to his conversations??
Hey is that just a bit...?
But fly into a state of moral outrage when someone is doing something that they enjoy?
Don't some people just love doing that?
In the Middle Ages it was witches.
Now it's smokers. Quoting: Raul Castro 396595
Ok, i am really horrified by such unlimited
shallowness and ignorance.
When you smoke in a room,
where i reside as a non-smoker at the same time,
you pollute my breathing air against my will and harm me.
Therefore, how dare you to say, that smoking is solely your private business?
When non-smokers demand, that smokers respect their right to inhale fresh air, when they share the same room etc.,
then you call that a witch-hunt?
Ridiculous.
When a fat person eats to much, which is sad enough, this person does not violate my rights, but when a smoker smokes, my rigths are violated.
When a fat person gourmandizes candies, until this person looks like an oversized beer barrel, which is sad enough, then no candy-particles fly into my mouth and lung and cause cancer or other diseases there, but when a smoker smokes, the smoke- particles pollute my air and harm me.
What is so hard to understand here?
Smoke is simply a toxic waste-gas,
caused by a burning-process,
can you finally grasp and accept that?
No smart person inhales toxic waste-gases
voluntarily of course.
People, who persistently refuse to accept even the simplest facts, will unfortunately maybe have to learn it the hard way someday...
Bye, i wish you all a Happy Easter! :-) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 338472
3/20/2008 11:49 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
i take this ultimate respiratory cleanse to help me clear out my lungs from smoking a lot of cigs and pot. Seems to be fairly effective, i just want to be able to play basketball so i may cut out the cigarettes and just chew for a while. It does cut down on your cardiovascualr capacity if your lungs are full of gunk (in the form of mucus mostly).
it basically has all the ingredients necessary to clean out your lungs...
fenugreek extract
marshmellow extract
mullen
skullcap
paba
skunk cabbage powder
watercress
butterfly weed
garlic extract
onions
turnips
cascara sagrada bark
coltsfooat powdr
pau of arco powder
thyme powder
now i haven't checked out all of these, but the ones i did check out have good properties...plus buying a supplent that does it all in one helps clean out your lungs.
i'd also recommend it for asthmatics and anyone with reduced lung capacity from smoking or pollution. it's just what i do to cancel out the effects of cigs, and i'm not worried about cancer, and if i do get it it can easily be cured by all the supressed cancer cures. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 372844
3/21/2008 12:26 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
No matter what you do, you're still going to die.
I don't care what kind of health you are in, if you watch what you eat, exercise daily, and never touch alcohol, drugs, or cigarettes you will still die.
I am here to enjoy myself while I am alive.
I smoke and I happen to believe the smell of smoke isn't nearly as bad as the pollution the chemical plant within a block from me emits.
I believe the OP is onto something.
Think back to the time of our grandparents and before.
Many of them smoked and ate farm raised foods like eggs and bacon everyday.
You just didn't hear of them dying from those lifestyles.
So maybe it's not those things killing us persay.
I do believe those things aren't that good for us but then again neither is walking down certain streets after dark.
When you're time is up it's up.
Would you rather be in perfect shape and health only to die of a heart attack at 25?
It happens all the time.
If that happened to me I'd be pissed I didn't live every day to the fullest and eat,smoke, and drink what I wanted to.
Besides, who wants to live forever in a world as fucked up as this anyway? Quoting: shyla
Yea....
...and I bet kissing you is about like French kissing an ashtray.
Had I known how bad I smelled to others when I smoked, I would have given it up a very long time ago.
Now I can smell what I couldn't smell before. So the reason you think you smell so sweet is you cant smell. Trust me, give it up then make an assessment as to whether you think you smell like a spring meadow or an ashtray.
Then you will be trying to figure out just "how" to get that stinky assed smell from your car. You simply cant.
I now know why car dealerships who sell used cars have a "non-smoking" vehicles for sale
I can tell. Now anyway.
Peace |
| bilthy
User ID: 165856
3/21/2008 12:44 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
smoking is cool!
smoke homegrown tobbacco and weed, then you'll be laughing.
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| bilthy
User ID: 165856
3/21/2008 12:46 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
remember woody allen's movie sleeper? in the future they find out smoking is good for you.
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| hoot no more/hasheater
User ID: 396983
3/21/2008 1:11 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
70% of French adults smoke and they live 3-4 years longer than other westerners, but they have been smokeing Turkish tobacco. So, something really really stinks about all the "facts" you have been fed on this subject in the media and from the "scientists". USA tobacco was polluted from 1942-1985 by the very very leaky uranium hexafluoride plant just upwind at Oak Ridge,Tn. killing tens of millions of smokers of American tobacco with Po212 dust[the breakdown product of U238 exposed to UV radiation in the air].
Once this old plant was closed TPTB had to cover their asses as it would have become very apparent in a couple of decades[as the lung cancers etc. decreased]that that weapons plant was the real source of the health problems with smokeing, so they started the heavy anti-smokeing campaigns AND starting adding new poisons to commercial ciggarettes such as the heart destroying rat poison, cumatine/wolferin[sp?] that is in there now. |
| OP
User ID: 396993
3/21/2008 1:32 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
The Natives used it cerimoniously , not smoking on the hour every hour every day...there is a big difference. Quoting: Dexter 150864
Again. You take a medicinal herb and abuse it, thats what happens.
You're NOT supposed to smoke it every hour.
I smoke to relax, and at other times I use it for concentration.
Also use it socially.
(CAPS SO PEOPLE HEAR THIS.)
EVERYTHING IN MODERATION. |
| OP
User ID: 396993
3/21/2008 1:37 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Your "logic" is flawed beyound words. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396602
Is it?
You tell me.
(Mabbe you need to think clearly and without help from Mass Media.)
The ancient medicinal plant tobacco (in use by humans for 4,000 years) is the Scapegoat used by the Chemical and Oil industries.
-- Toxic pollution causes cancer. BUT what do you hear, drilled into your brains daily? Tobacco.
-- Why is it, we have this huge increase in lung cancer and other cancers, EXACTLY coinciding with the Industrial Revolution??
--GOOGLE " Cover up chemical industry"
A little common sense will tell you what happens when you breath in Diesel, Car exhaust fumes and Factory fumes, every single day, 7 days a week, all year long. For years on end.
-- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ??
-- Ask any smoker if he gets a lot of colds a year. They'll answer not that many.
Ask a non-smoker. They'll answer they get a lot.
--Historically, the California Desert indians smoked tobacco, to cure a cold.
[ link to academic.udayton.edu]
-- Could it be the smokers cough, is tobacco causing the lungs to expel the effects of pollution?
-- FINALLY here's the clincher. WHEN has the Mass Media EVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH ??????? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 396999
3/21/2008 2:00 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
The ancient medicinal plant tobacco (in use by humans for 4,000 years) is the Scapegoat used by the Chemical and Oil industries.
-- Toxic pollution causes cancer. BUT what do you hear, drilled into your brains daily? Tobacco.
-- Why is it, we have this huge increase in lung cancer and other cancers, EXACTLY coinciding with the Industrial Revolution??
--GOOGLE " Cover up chemical industry"
A little common sense will tell you what happens when you breath in Diesel, Car exhaust fumes and Factory fumes, every single day, 7 days a week, all year long. For years on end.
-- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ??
-- Ask any smoker if he gets a lot of colds a year. They'll answer not that many.
Ask a non-smoker. They'll answer they get a lot.
--Historically, the California Desert indians smoked tobacco, to cure a cold.
[ link to academic.udayton.edu]
-- Could it be the smokers cough, is tobacco causing the lungs to expel the effects of pollution?
-- FINALLY here's the clincher. WHEN has the Mass Media EVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH ???????
A simple question to ask is why so Japan and Greece the two nations with the most smokers have the lowest rates of Cancer. |
| OP
User ID: 396993
3/21/2008 2:24 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
A simple question to ask is why so Japan and Greece the two nations with the most smokers have the lowest rates of Cancer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396999
Message to you and all other SMART posters above:
Eventually they'll get it.
"Kill" em with Intelligence.
Screw kindness.
Lol...... |
| A. Smoker
User ID: 395660
3/21/2008 2:42 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Op is still correct. Although I would have added... "Healthy for me"
All tobacco products are not created equal. My all time fave was Winston 100's in the soft pack... smoked them all my life and never had any ill effects. They quit making them last July and the "same" cigarettes in the box pack burn about 20% faster.. what a marketing gimmick. Kinda like cutting the portion size in the same package to make more sales. That finally pushed me over the edge to rolling my own - taxes make the price too high already.
This was a problem... for there is no equivalent tobacco sold loose! I tried them all -American Spirit tastes bad, Bugler too much Turkish - bad cough. Midinight Special give me an sore throat in a day, and Top is lacking nicotine.
We tried 2 cans of ZIg-Zag and it damn near made my wife stop breathing. I fared a little better but it was way too toxic. So in a way, the anti tobacco people are right: some brands are dangerous to your health.
I have never smoke any Marlboro product. Tried them and they always make me short of breath in a day. Truly dangerous stuff in there.
SO, if you like smoking - and there is nothing wrong with that!- you have to be careful what you smoke. |
| OP
User ID: 396993
3/21/2008 3:06 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Smoke is simply a toxic waste-gas,
caused by a burning-process,
can you finally grasp and accept that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396602
Please use your brain and don't keep repeating what Mass Media tells you. (Please......?)
Now using the brain what do we know about. Medicinal Pot.
EVERYONE knows inhaling the smoke from this herb, is extremely medicinal for the human body.
(Mabbe that's why they have Clinics that prescribe pot, just a wild guess?)
If you don't know this, turn off your damn Propoganda Box.
Historically, tobacco was known as a medicinal herb, UNTIL the advent of "Modern medicine" and it's agenda of Profit by Disease.
This is a fact, and no amount of dis-info is gonna change it.
Sorry.
American Cancer Society? A fukin joke.
On their website they say, we still don't know what causes cancer.
Geee, you don't think it would be breathing in Gas, Diesel and Factory fumes, Residue Atomic particles ?
24/7, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Year in and year out.
Like I said. Profit by Disease.
Now if you're still not aware of the ineffectiveness of "Modern medicine.........consider yourself now aware.
Cuz I just told you !
THINK ! Don't let Mass Media do it for you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385499
3/21/2008 3:15 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
BREAKING: SECONDHAND FIRE ALSO BAD FOR HEALTH
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Three decades after health advocates brought to the world's attention the serious risks associated with being on fire, a report released Monday by Acting U.S. Surgeon General Rear Admiral Steven K. Galson purports that secondhand exposure to those ablaze could prove equally as deadly.
Galson warns of fire danger.
"We now know that individuals engulfed in flames not only pose a danger to themselves, but to everyone else around them," Galson said. "While severe irritation of the eyes, throat, face, arms, and legs is common among those not on fire themselves, prolonged contact can also cause irreparable damage to bodily organs, most frequently the skin."
"Be it the increased chance of heart attacks, malignant growths that rapidly swell and blister over the surface of the flesh, or simply a burning sensation, secondhand fire is not something to be taken lightly," Galson added. "It can, and often does, significantly affect one's quality of life."
According to the report, exposure to secondhand fire, or "passive burning," as it is also known, for as little as two minutes can take 80 years off one's life. Statistics show that senior citizens with dry skin, young children who are smaller and consequently take less time to burn, and men and women covered in flammable liquids are most at risk. Chronic asthma sufferers were shown to have their condition drastically worsen within seconds.
"Hundreds of Americans die prematurely each year from flame-related illnesses," said Brian McMillen, who in 1995 lost his wife and half his home to secondhand fire and is now the executive director of Americans Against Involuntary Scorching. "I've watched this silent killer take healthy men and women full of vigor and render them unrecognizable, reducing them to mere skeletons of their former selves before my very eyes."
In response to the findings, smelting plants and fireworks distributors across the nation have introduced harsher workplace restrictions on those in flames, requiring that they extinguish themselves immediately, and even barring them from their establishments altogether. This comes as welcome news to customers and coworkers who have long complained about working around people who are burning.
A Missoula, MT smelting plant was one of the first to implement a secondhand-fire policy.
"There's nothing worse than being trapped in a room all day with a bunch of people blowing red-hot embers and charred fragments of bone in your face," said New Jersey pyrotechnician Heather Benart, who spends several hours each night scrubbing the smell of scorched human flesh out of her clothing. "If they want to be on fire in their own homes, that's their business, but they should at least have the decency to stay far away from those of us who don't have a death wish."
Welder's apprentice Kenny George, of Mobile, AL said the workplace should be a safe environment, noting that he has to deal with blazing colleagues several times a week.
"It's unbearable when someone standing right next to me just bursts into flames without thinking twice," George said. "Inconsiderate people like that are so preoccupied with their own little dramas that they don't even realize they're doing harm to others."
Top executives from six of the nation's largest lighter manufacturers, including Zippo, Cricket, and Bic, who in the past have been accused of glamorizing burning and marketing fire to children, issued a joint press release Monday in response to the surgeon general's report, alleging that the study is "just another attempt to vilify the flame industry." The letter also referred to claims that secondhand fire can cause serious harm as "irresponsible and wildly exaggerated."
The most vocal dismissal of the report's findings, however, have come from burners' rights groups, who have claim they have historically felt ostracized by anti-burning ordinances and other fire-control measures. Advocates frequently accuse anti-burners of expressing unreasonable fears and hysteria, a sentiment echoed by James Feig, a 25-second burner who spoke before the Massachusetts Bar Association on Tuesday.
"Aaaaaaarrrrgggghhh—Dear fucking God, no—Aaaaarrrrggghhh," Feig said. |
| OP
User ID: 396993
3/21/2008 3:16 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
All tobacco products are not created equal.
SO, if you like smoking - and there is nothing wrong with that!- you have to be careful what you smoke. Quoting: A. Smoker 395660
Exactly.
Instead of consumers forcing Big Tobacco to clean up their act , we now have Mass Media blaming tobacco, and not the chemicals in cigs.
Muddled thinking, never gets anybody anywhere. |
| czygyny
User ID: 186582
3/21/2008 3:28 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I don't need mass media to tell me that I had chronic bronchitis when I was a child because my father chain-smoked in my home, in the car, everywhere.
When he left, so did my bronchitis.
I don't need mass media to tell me that sitting next to coworkers who left their cigarettes smoldering in their ashtrays made me choke and gag, and my eyes burn.
When they banned it in our building the choking and gagging stopped, and my eyes felt better.
Mass media didn't have to tell me that forbidding cigarette smoke from restaurants and public places would make for a healthier and more enjoyable place (here in California).
All I had to do was go to Reno for a day and try to spend any time in the casinos where smoking is allowed to end up having to sit outside until the others were finished with their fun.
Thank God cigarette smoking is banned from all public places in the state of California. They may do a lot of dumb things in Callie, but this one is a winner.
Tobacco may indeed be a healthful herb, marijuana can be too if used in the manner that it is intended--occasional use for special needs and occasions, but as usual, people will ALWAYS abuse something good until its use ends up legislated. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397064
3/21/2008 4:44 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
What I cant understand is that if smoking is so "bad" why is it still legal.
We ban drugs like cocaine, heroin, PCP, weed.. and the like.. yet tobacco which they say is so "dangerous" is still legal. Why do you think that is.. if in fact, smoking is so "deadly"
Don't be fooled.. this whole anti smoking craze is nothing more then a new world agenda litmus test for how much people are willing to have their personal autonomy taken away. Quoting: Globalstar
Smoking $€££$... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397064
3/21/2008 4:48 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
It still takes a SUCKER to smoke.
And you suckers smell nasty aswell. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397064
3/21/2008 5:03 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I'M NOT SAYING T. IS GOOD OK... WHAT YOU BUY IS BAD !!
VERY VERY BAD.. BUT THAT IS NOT MY POINT.. !!
THE QUESTION ... WHY THEY ARE "NOW" DOING EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOU STOP SMOOKING .. THAT IS MY POINT
They did everything to make you smooke ... now they are doing everything to make you stop... WHY ??? Quoting: Lastone 395143
They have need of their people, that is you the suckers.
So instead of killing you off this way they have another use for you.
That's all there is too it, plus you make their clothing smell after spending sometime with you their thralls. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397064
3/21/2008 5:21 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Natural tobacco is less harmful
actually radiation is drawn to tobacco leaves more readily for some reason-
I also know that to rid the body of DU(depleted uranium) in the lungs or at least assist in expectorating it that cigarettes work very well.
In smoking herbal supplements, they have finally admitted to the cannabinoid receptors that are located in the brain, the intestines and they have found additional receptors in the joint spaces. These are found in all mammals regardless of whether they have ever smoked Kaneh Bos(m) or not
In Genesis, "...all plants and herbs, those bearing seed, I give unto man..."
Man has made strong alcohol legal and herb illegal
believe the Most High or believe man-
I rarely drink alcohol but smoke
almost 5 decades-I have remained active and have good lung volume. I am able to climb stairs equal to most non smokers, close in age. Actually in much better shape than most my age-but I believe staying active is important as how one thinks/their attitude.
I roll my own and use filters with tobacco
should be an individuals right to choose-without violating others who choose differently imho
Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
Genesis 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
what part of the curse is it you don't understand?
This is a cursed place.
You're probably one of the woo woo's that think this junkyard of a planet is extremely nice, you have not seen extremely nice ever. This is nothing compared to what the creation was like.
Proverbs 16:27 An ungodly man diggeth up evil: and in his lips there is as a burning fire. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 344785
3/21/2008 5:24 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
yea, tell that to my Mother who died in 1994 at the age of 54 with..... lung cancer.... Quoting: LifesReflections*
My condolences.
However, the wife of Christopher Reeves also died from lung cancer. And he never smoked a cigarette in her life. |
| Mister Obvious  
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 247140
3/21/2008 5:30 PM
 | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
I prefare cigars, meself... |
| Hannibal
User ID: 368036
3/21/2008 5:30 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
The Anti-Tobacco industry is the single
biggest conspiracy of our time.
. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 365105
3/21/2008 6:20 PM | | Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO. | Quote |
Lets see, lead from leaded gasoline, more nuclear testing than anyone in the world, toxic fallout from industrial manufacturing, and fosil fuels, a huge amount of electromagnetic radiation, power plants, colliders, microwave ovens, excessive X rays, ozone depletion, chemtrails, and many other flavors of doom, yet still the cancer rates are lower in japan, "the only country ever attacked by A bombs" and "has more smokers per capita than the U.S."
Carbon monoxide is the perfect anti oxident.
Smoking bothers people, that is the problem.
Some people find smoking offensive, so it must be outlawed.
It should be illegal for one person to offend another.
No one should be allowed to talk loud, or use profanity.
No one should be allowed to use a cell phone.
No one should be allowed to disagree.
No one should be allowed to talk about religion.
No one should be allowed to talk about politics.
No one should be allowed to disagree.
No one should be allowed to do, or say anything because it is always offensive to someone.
D. O. O. M. that spells distraction. |
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