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SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.

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OP
User ID: 397707
3/22/2008 5:21 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Lets see, lead from leaded gasoline, more nuclear testing than anyone in the world, toxic fallout from industrial manufacturing, and fosil fuels, a huge amount of electromagnetic radiation, power plants, colliders, microwave ovens, excessive X rays, ozone depletion, chemtrails, and many other flavors of doom, yet still the cancer rates are lower in japan, "the only country ever attacked by A bombs" and "has more smokers per capita than the U.S."
Carbon monoxide is the perfect anti oxident.
Smoking bothers people, that is the problem.
Some people find smoking offensive, so it must be outlawed.
It should be illegal for one person to offend another.
No one should be allowed to talk loud, or use profanity.
No one should be allowed to use a cell phone.
No one should be allowed to disagree.
No one should be allowed to talk about religion.
No one should be allowed to talk about politics.
No one should be allowed to disagree.
No one should be allowed to do, or say anything because it is always offensive to someone.
D. O. O. M. that spells distraction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 365105


...an don't ya love the "Scientist" and their findings about tobacco ?

Their job is to study with OBJECTIVITY, is it not?

But what the hell, they say, just throw that word away. We'll just find it's tobacco causing these problems and not the 12 or so OTHER factors you mentioned.

Idiots.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397707
3/22/2008 5:31 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Japan and Greece have the highest numbers of adult cigarette smokers in the world, but the lowest incidence of lung cancer. In direct contrast to this, America, Australia, Russia, and some South Pacific island groups have the lowest numbers of adult cigarette smokers in the world, but the highest incidence of lung cancer. This is clue number-one in unraveling the absurd but entrenched western medical lie that “smoking causes lung cancer.”

[link to www.vialls.com]
The Brain
User ID: 397744
3/22/2008 6:02 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Could this loophole be the answer in beating the smoking ban?. Visit [link to www.smokeupstairs.com]
Hannibal
User ID: 368036
3/22/2008 6:26 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Anti-smokers live in fear.
Many are likely Enneagram type 6's.

[link to www.enneagram-spirituality.com]

Probably the same people who made up the "NO FEAR" slogan
because they were soo afraid.

Then of course there are the Enneagram type 1 Perfectionists.
They love to tell the rest of the world how to live, but it doesn't apply to them...Elliot Spitzer types.

I know a type 6 who is afraid of everything you can imagine.
Yet he pretends to be the toughest guy around.
But he actually locks his door when he walks to his mailbox.
And of course he is petrified by second hand smoke.

Not surprisingly he falls for any con artist who plays on his fears.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397868
3/22/2008 9:58 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

I find it VERY strange that asthmatic rates have increased in recent years, despite the increase of smoking bans and with fewer people smoking. I also find it interesting I'm almost 30 years old and a smoker. But yet, I outlived a woman who never smoked in her life and she never lived with smokers. But she still died from lung cancer at 25!

Did I give nonsmokers a heart attack? Yes, nonsmokers can get lung cancer.

[link to chicagosmoker-jay.blogspot.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398245
3/23/2008 1:53 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

bump
bilthy
User ID: 165856
3/23/2008 2:15 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

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A. Smoker
User ID: 395660
3/23/2008 4:31 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

OK, the wife was in the ER yesterday... not smoking related.... and I did a quick check on myself with their fancy electronic meter. Put it on my finger and heres what it showed.

Pulse - 70 beats a minute.

Blood oxygen - 100 (whatever that means)

Maybe one of you medical types can tell me if thats normal for a 48 year old male that puts down 2+ packs a day since 1981 ( much less smoking before I quit drinkin!)

Yes, I have always wondered too about the epidemic of asthma around here. The whole first 20 years of my life I met exactly ONE kid with asthma. Now it seems to be everwhere.

Thats not at all consistent with the modern no-smoke propaganda. Wouldn't you think that there should have been an epidemic when I was young -that tapered off later as they got people to quit and made everything smoke free.

Man, that hospital sucks now. I was there in 1978 and smoked right in my room! Now you can't light up anywhere on the entire property (as if they owned the air above it) Whatever - I won't be staying there anytime soon ;)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398298
3/23/2008 4:56 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

NOTE: Tobacco contains the Neuroprotective agent Harmine, which is also contained in Passion Flower

if you quit smoking, you must consume a lot of passion flower to maintain the benefits of smoking , plus avoid Harmine withdrawal since its the other psychoactive in tobacco besides nicotine
harleyrider1978
User ID: 398774
3/24/2008 11:51 AM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

NOTE: Tobacco contains the Neuroprotective agent Harmine, which is also contained in Passion Flower

if you quit smoking, you must consume a lot of passion flower to maintain the benefits of smoking , plus avoid Harmine withdrawal since its the other psychoactive in tobacco besides nicotine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398298



wtg............the antis are out doing damage control this morning.........they started attacking one of the heritage scientists on abc early morning at 3;30 am.........pretty sad they tried to make the man out to be some kind of nitwit. as he spoke they would cut to one of their so called experts........these experts were rolling theirs eyes and tilting their heads as they tried to keep the lie up on SHS and global warming..........
Jomama
User ID: 180153
3/24/2008 12:13 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Agent Tray.

All that stuff you posted is CUT AND PASTE. How bout some original thought on your part.
(Not to mention, by the "powers that be".)

Read my post and respond to what I wrote, using your brain.
 Quoting: OP 394958


He can't.

He doesn't smoke.
to herd or not to herd
[link to djomama.blogspot.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 399364
3/25/2008 12:18 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Agent Tray.

All that stuff you posted is CUT AND PASTE. How bout some original thought on your part.
(Not to mention, by the "powers that be".)

Read my post and respond to what I wrote, using your brain.


He can't.

He doesn't smoke.
 Quoting: Jomama


lol

Ain't that the truth.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 399388
3/25/2008 12:54 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

The ancient medicinal plant tobacco (in use by humans for 4,000 years) is the Scapegoat used by the Chemical and Oil industries.

-- Toxic pollution causes cancer. BUT what do you hear, drilled into your brains daily? Tobacco.

-- Why is it, we have this huge increase in lung cancer and other cancers, EXACTLY coinciding with the Industrial Revolution??

--GOOGLE "Cover up chemical industry"

A little common sense will tell you what happens when you breath in Diesel, Car exhaust fumes and Factory fumes, every single day, 7 days a week, all year long. For years on end.

-- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ??

-- Ask any smoker if he gets a lot of colds a year. They'll answer not that many.

Ask a non-smoker. They'll answer they get a lot.

--Historically, the California Desert indians smoked tobacco, to cure a cold.
[link to academic.udayton.edu]

-- Could it be the smokers cough, is tobacco causing the lungs to expel the effects of pollution?

-- FINALLY here's the clincher. WHEN has the Mass Media EVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH ???????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394958
Smoking isn't healthy, but the harmful effects have been exaggerated, especially the secondhand smoke issue.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 399364
3/25/2008 1:51 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Smoking isn't healthy, but the harmful effects have been exaggerated, especially the secondhand smoke issue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 399388


You never know, it might be healthy. When I smoke, I never gets colds.
Monadnock
User ID: 356326
3/25/2008 2:00 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Well gang, just continue with your delusional thread.

I tried to tell my sister to quit in 1976 but she knew better. She destroyed her lungs and now has COPD and breathes with great difficulty.

"You got to die of something," she told me.
She'll get her wish.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287857
3/25/2008 2:01 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Japan and Greece have the highest numbers of adult cigarette smokers in the world, but the lowest incidence of lung cancer. In direct contrast to this, America, Australia, Russia, and some South Pacific island groups have the lowest numbers of adult cigarette smokers in the world, but the highest incidence of lung cancer. This is clue number-one in unraveling the absurd but entrenched western medical lie that “smoking causes lung cancer.”

[link to www.vialls.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397707


bump


I would rather not smoke tobacco

and definitely not pack cigs
with the impact loading they do to enhance addiction

but cigarettes do help clear the lung of DU(depleted uranium)
used in bombs and bullets used overseas...

and the air is toxed by things like Chernobyl!!!

still toxed and will be for thousands of years
like Hiroshima that is radiation and it will affect DNA and cells

It MUTATES
that is WHAT IT DOES

the 7 dwarfs lied to congress too-find the truth through research

the law is archaic and seeks to enslave beyond what is shown
Monadnock
User ID: 356326
3/25/2008 2:05 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

That's what Sir Raleigh believed in the 1600's anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326961



I see your point! SCIENCE HASN'T PROGRESSED IN 400 YEARS HAS IT?
mrsnacks
User ID: 380606
3/25/2008 2:09 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Then how come smokers can't run for shit. All of my friends smoke. Anytime they come to my apartment which is only on the 3 rd floor they are all out of wind by the time the get to my door. I on the other hand have no problems what so ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 201927


Good point.
mrsnacks
User ID: 380606
3/25/2008 2:09 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Then how come smokers can't run for shit. All of my friends smoke. Anytime they come to my apartment which is only on the 3 rd floor they are all out of wind by the time the get to my door. I on the other hand have no problems what so ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 201927


Good point.
mrsnacks
User ID: 380606
3/25/2008 2:10 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

The ancient medicinal plant tobacco (in use by humans for 4,000 years) is the Scapegoat used by the Chemical and Oil industries.

-- Toxic pollution causes cancer. BUT what do you hear, drilled into your brains daily? Tobacco.

-- Why is it, we have this huge increase in lung cancer and other cancers, EXACTLY coinciding with the Industrial Revolution??

--GOOGLE "Cover up chemical industry"

A little common sense will tell you what happens when you breath in Diesel, Car exhaust fumes and Factory fumes, every single day, 7 days a week, all year long. For years on end.

-- WHY is lung cancer on the rise, with smokers AND non-smokers, even tho thousands and thousands of people who listen to the propaganda, are quitting ??

-- Ask any smoker if he gets a lot of colds a year. They'll answer not that many.

Ask a non-smoker. They'll answer they get a lot.

--Historically, the California Desert indians smoked tobacco, to cure a cold.
[link to academic.udayton.edu]

-- Could it be the smokers cough, is tobacco causing the lungs to expel the effects of pollution?

-- FINALLY here's the clincher. WHEN has the Mass Media EVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH ???????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394958


--------------------------------

What makes you think this report is true. Maybe this report is a lie.


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mrsnacks
User ID: 380606
3/25/2008 2:15 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Uhuh.

Yo EINSTEIN. You show me anywhere in my original post where I'm saying smoke 5 cartons a day.

You're fukin "brilliant". Using your logic I'm supposed to go out and drink 8 gallons of water. Water's healthy right?

You givin me a headache son.
stars


No Sir, you give us a headache.

I am a non-smoker and i inhale air 24 hours a day,
as mother nature intended it, since human beings exist
and i and many other people feel fine by doing so.

I need no cigarettes and i need no tobacco-products,
neither "natural", nor industrial modified stuff.
And i never in my whole life needed tobacco for medical purposes.

And if i would have ever needed tobacco for medical purposes, then i, as a non-smoker, would have looked at your thread only, if you had correctly stated, right from the start, in your thread title, that your thread is only about tobacco for medical purposes, which it is not as a matter of fact, because you wrote very misleading instead:
"SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO."

You falsely claim, that smoking is healthy
and further you deliberately mix the smoking issue up with the completely unrelated issue about tobacco for medical purposes.

By saying that, you imply, that the more you smoke,
the more healthy you get, which is nonsense.
When you say, that smoking is healty, than you imply,
that when you smoke more, then you get healthier,
which is wrong.

Your "logic" is flawed beyound words.
A non-smoker does not have to reduce or to control the amount of air, which he/she inhales 24 hours a day,
but a smoker has to reduce or to control the amount of cigarettes etc., he/she smokes, or otherwise certain death looms within a very short time span.

And because you have no logical counter-arguments,
you now even bring the flawed example about drinking certain amounts of water.
You continue to change the topic, when you are desperate
and you continue to mix unrelated things up, which have nothing to do with each other.
What has drinking water to do with smoking?

You sound either like an unteachable smoker
or a paid shill of the modern tobacco-industry.

If smoking would "only" be your private "pleasure",
why are you then trying so very desperately,
to boost your wrong and flawed agenda,
when you try to lure other people with the bait,
that smoking is healthy (which it is not)?

As another poster wrote some hours ago, your thread title
is misleading and maybe you did this on purpose in order to boost your questionable agenda.
If you want to write about tobacco for medical purposes,
then have the guts to use the correct thread title "Tobacco is maybe useful for certain medical purposes".

What you did instead is that you wrote "SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO."
and then you deliberately changed the topic and wrote about tobacco for medical purposes etc.
Stop making promotion on a public board for smoking (under the guise that tobacco can have certain medical purposes).

Smoking as a "pleasure" and for private "fun"
has nothing and will never have anything to do
with the usage of tobacco for certain medical purposes.
OP, when will you finally grasp and accept that?

I, as a NON-smoker, even inhaled cigarette-smoke once, in order to test it and i immediately sensed the aura of looming disease and death (already while making my first inhalation ever) and of course i continued to stay a NON-smoker.

You sound very desperate indeed.
My advice is, that if you maybe work for the tobacco industry and maybe worry about your subsiding profit and your job-security etc., then search another job and you will feel much better soon.

When you follow this advice, then you will have the additional advantage, that you will never ever have the need or pressure again, to make public promotion for smoking, which is an unhealty, expensive and senseless activity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396602


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Great read. We will see if the response is in the form of 4 letter words.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394205
3/25/2008 2:20 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Have you ever compared a smokers lung to a non-smokers?

It's very disgusting. The smokers lungs are black and puffy with bubbles and the non-smokers lungs are pink and normal
American Spirit Tobacco
User ID: 394844
3/25/2008 2:24 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

AC # 287857 said, "Cigarettes do help clear the lung of DU(depleted uranium)used in bombs and bullets used overseas."

Has anyone conducted a study of the survival rate of the veterans of recent wars who did smoke cigarettes during their tours of duty?

Clearly, anything done in excess is harmful. But would it be useful to reccommend that our troops smoke pure tobacco once or twice a day to help protect their lungs and survive the slow deaths veterans are experiencing after they leave the military?
Monadnock
User ID: 356326
3/25/2008 2:36 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

AC # 287857 said, "Cigarettes do help clear the lung of DU(depleted uranium)used in bombs and bullets used overseas."

Has anyone conducted a study of the survival rate of the veterans of recent wars who did smoke cigarettes during their tours of duty?

Clearly, anything done in excess is harmful. But would it be useful to reccommend that our troops smoke pure tobacco once or twice a day to help protect their lungs and survive the slow deaths veterans are experiencing after they leave the military?
 Quoting: American Spirit Tobacco 394844



This is such an absurd contention it isn't worth discussing but it is worthy of a good laugh!
Joey Crank
User ID: 388749
3/25/2008 2:36 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

The problem is how it makes you and your surroundings look and smell.

Then there is:

The digging in the trash for a butt at 3am like some kind of starving rodent. Having to stop on road trips and stand outside in a fucking blizzard just to take a couple of drags. Scrubbing your fingers with steel wool and comet to get rid of nicotine stains. Taking your $200 slacks to the cleaners and asking them if they can fix a burn hole in the crotch. Taking your car in to see if they can fix a burn hole in the leather seat under your crotch. Swerving in traffic and risking your life and other's while your crotch is fucking on fire....

It might be healthy but its not worth it.

laugh
 Quoting: PACNWguy

All you have to do is pack your cigs before you open them. That keeps the cherry from falling off. And if you can't keep a cig in your hand for the 3-5 minutes it takes to smoke the damn thing, then chances are, you aren't coordinated enough to operate a vehicle to begin with. Also, I buy another pack of smokes before I run out. I don't recall digging in the trash for a butt. When I ride in a vehicle, i crack the window and use the ashtray, I'm not about to stop my damn car and get out to smoke. Furthermore, I shower daily. I smoke with my right hand, between my middle and index fingers. Somehow those two fingers are the exact same color as the ones on my left hand, even the pinky. And what the hell would I be doing at 3 in the morning? Probably sleeping. I agree that smoking is highly addictive, but I never woke up in the middle of the night because I just had to have a smoke. Maybe crackheads are up at 3 in the morning digging through trash to find a butt, but I can afford a pack a day. Although I don't think a 200$ pair of slacks falls into my budget. I'm assuming you were a very sheltered rich kid, or you just wanted to put your two-cents in a conversation you know nothing about.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 353725
3/25/2008 2:56 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

So, you thought it was the tar that caused cancer...

Think again. Cigarette companies will have you believing
anything just as long as you continue to buy their products. The
fact is, although insoluble tars are a contributing factor to the
lung cancer danger present in today's cigarettes, the real danger
is radioactivity.
According to U.S. Surgeon General C. Everette
Koop (on national television, 1990) radioactivity, not tar,
accounts for at least 90% of all smoking related lung cancer.
Tobacco crops grown in the United States are fertilized by law
with phosphates rich in radium 226. In addition, many soils have
a natural radium 226 content. Radium 226 breaks down into two long
lived 'daughter' elements -- lead 210 and polonium 210. These
radioactive particles become airborne, and attach themselves to the
fine hairs on tobacco leaves.

Studies have shown that lead 210 and polonium 210 deposits
accumulate in the bodies of people exposed to cigarette smoke.
Data collected in the late 1970's shows that smokers have three
times as much of these elements in their lower lungs as non
smokers. Smokers also show a greater accumulation of lead 210 and
polonium 210 in their skeletons,though no studies have been
conducted to link these deposits with bone cancer. Polonium 210 is
the only component of cigarette smoke which has produced tumors by
itself in inhalation experiments with animals.
When a smoker inhales tobacco smoke, the lungs react by
forming irritated areas in the bronchi. All smoke produces this
effect. However, although these irritated spots are referred to as
'pre-cancerous' lesions, they are a perfectly natural defense
system and usually go away with no adverse effects. Insoluble tars
in tobacco smoke can slow this healing process by adhering to
lesions and causing additional irritation. In addition, tobacco
smoke causes the bronchi to constrict for long periods of time,
which obstructs the lung's ability to clear itself of these
residues.
Polonium 210 and lead 210 in tobacco smoke show a tendency to
accumulate at lesions in specific spots, called bifurcations, in
the bronchi.
When smoking is continued for an extended period of
time, deposits of radioactivity turn into radioactive 'hot spots'
and remain at bifurcations for years. Polonium 210 emits highly
localized alpha radiation which has been shown to cause cancer.
Since the polonium 210 has a half life of 21.5 years (Due to the
presence of lead 210), it can put an ex-smoker at risk for years
after he or she quits. Experiments measuring the level of polonium
210 in victims of lung cancer found that the level of 'hot spot'
activity was virtually the same in smokers and ex-smokers even though
the ex-smokers had quit five years prior to death.
Over half of the radioactive materials emitted by a burning
cigarette are released into the air, where they can be inhaled by
non-smokers. In addition to lead 210 and polonium 210 it has been
proven that tobacco smoke can cause airborne radioactive particles
to collect in the lungs of both smokers and non-smokers exposed to
second hand smoke.
Original studies conducted on uranium miners
which showed an increased risk of lung cancer due to exposure to
radon in smokers have been re-run to evaluate the radioactive lung
cancer risk from indoor air radon. It turns out that tobacco smoke
works as a kind of 'magnet' for airborne radioactive particles,
causing them to deposit in your lungs instead of on furniture.
(Smoking indoors increases lung cancer risks greatly.)
It has been estimated that the total accumulated alpha
radiation exposure of a pack-a-day indoor smoker is 38 to 97 rad by
age 60.
(Two packs a day yields up to 143 rad, and non-smokers
receive no more than 17 rad.) An exposure of 1 rad per year yields
a 1% risk of lung cancer (at the lowest estimate.)
Don't smoke. Or if you do, smoke lightly, outdoors, and
engage frequently in activities which will clear your lungs.
Imported India tobacco has less than half the radiation content of
that grown in the U.S.
Kicking the nicotine habit is not easy, and nobody has the
right to expect it of you. Often physical addictions are
reinforced by emotional and psychological needs. Filling or coming
to terms with those needs can give you the inspiration and added
freedom to succeed.
Most of all, inform yourself, even if the information is
disturbing. You are a lot less likely to be taken in by tobacco
advertising once you know the facts.


Nicotine, the active ingredient in tobacco smoke, has long
been known to be highly addictive. In fact, doctors and
pharmacologists are not in consensus as to which is more addictive
-- nicotine, or heroin. Physical addiction occurs when a chemical
becomes essential for the body or metabolism to function. In other
words, a substance is said to be physically addictive if extended
use results in a build up of tolerance in the body to the extent
that discontinuing use of the substance results in negative side
effects. Called "withdrawal symptoms," these consequences can
include anxiety, stress, trauma, depression and physical conditions
such as shakes or nausea. It is to avoid these consequences that
an addict will keep using his or her substance.
In addition to being addictive, nicotine is also a toxin (i.e.
lethal if ingested in sufficient quantities.) Nicotine has been
shown to have a negative effect on the heart and circulatory
systems, causing a constriction in veins and arteries which may
lead to a stroke or heart attack. In fact, nicotine is so
poisonous that smokers who ignore their doctor's advice and
continue to smoke while using dermal nicotine patches have managed
to overdose and die of heart seizure.

Many people think smoking marijuana is just as harmful as
smoking tobacco, but this is not true. Those who hold that
marijuana is equivalent to tobacco are misinformed. Due to the
efforts of various federal agencies to discourage use of
marijuana in the 1970's the government, in a fit of "reefer
madness," conducted several biased studies designed to return
results that would equate marijuana smoking with tobacco smoking,
or worse.
For example the Berkeley carcinogenic tar studies of the
late 1970's concluded that "marijuana is one-and-a-half times as
carcinogenic as tobacco." This finding was based solely on the
tar content of cannabis leaves compared to that of tobacco, and
did not take radioactivity into consideration. (Cannabis tars do
not contain radioactive materials.) In addition, it was not
considered that:
1) Most marijuana smokers smoke the bud, not the leaf, of
the plant. The bud contains only 33% as much tar as tobacco.
2) Marijuana smokers do not smoke anywhere near as much as
tobacco smokers, due to the psychoactive effects of cannabis.
3) Not one case of lung cancer has ever been successfully
linked to marijuana use.
4) Cannabis, unlike tobacco, does not cause any narrowing of
the small air passageways in the lungs.
In fact, marijuana has been shown to be an expectorant and
actually dilates the air channels it comes in contact with. This
is why many asthma sufferers look to marijuana to provide relief.
Doctors have postulated that marijuana may, in this respect, be
more effective than all of the prescription drugs on the market.
Studies even show that due to marijuana's ability to clear
the lungs of smog, pollutants, and cigarette smoke, it may
actually reduce your risk of emphysema, bronchitis, and lung
cancer. Smokers of cannabis have been shown to outlive non-
smokers in some areas by up to two years. Medium to heavy
tobacco smokers will live seven to ten years longer if they also
smoke marijuana.
Cannabis is also radically different from tobacco in that it
does not contain nicotine and is not addictive. The psychoactive
ingredient in marijuana, THC, has been accused of causing brain
and genetic damage, but these studies have all been disproven.
In fact, the DEA's own Administrative Law Judge Francis Young has
declared that "marijuana in its natural form is far safer than
many foods we commonly consume."

The disturbing thing about all of this information is that
the majority of Americans are as yet unaware of the radioactive
risk in cigarettes. In fact, many professionals: doctors,
scientists and health administrators, either have never heard of
polonium 210 or consider it to be just another scare story.
Why is this information so hard to come by? When the
studies were first released in the late 70's, many magazines were
unable to print articles because their main advertisers,
cigarette companies, threatened to pull support if they published
the facts. Although network news did pick up the story,
virtually nothing came out in print. Those who heard were hard
pressed to produce collaborating evidence, and were eventually
convinced it was nothing to worry about.
The power of the cigarette industry to suppress information
goes far beyond magazines, however. A well financed tobacco
lobby has been very active in the United States Congress for
decades procuring subsidies and fighting laws and proposed
research which could hurt the American tobacco industry. Tobacco
interests practically own Senate and House seats, as many
campaign contributions come from cigarette profits. Tobacco pay-
offs also go to fund organizations such as the Partnership For A
Drug Free America, which adopt a harsh anti-drug agenda yet seem
to omit alcohol and tobacco (claiming they are harmless.)
As an example, a 1984 law which was intended to require
tobacco companies to release to the public a list of additives
used in the manufacture of cigarettes was watered down to the
extent that the list is now released only to the Department of
Health and Human Services on the condition that it not be shown
to anyone else. Companies have been known in the past to add
chemicals to cigarettes for flavor, and, many assert, for their
addictive properties. In Britain such chemicals have included
acetone and turpentine, as well as an assortment of known
carcinogens.
Tobacco companies argue that revealing their 'secret
ingredients' would hurt their competitiveness. In fact, when
Canada passed legislation forcing additive lists to be released,
one large company reformulated its recipe for its Canadian
distribution; another took its product out of Canada entirely.
Tobacco companies do not have the right to poison the
public. Don't trust them. Get the information you need to make
your own decisions, and restore government to the people.

Another destructive aspect of the Drug War is the
unreasonable measures taken as a result of "reefer madness."
Because of the long standing anti-pot-smoking paranoia begun in
the 1930's, many law enforcement agencies have taken it upon
themselves to censor and limit the marijuana culture through
whatever channels they can find. This includes the banning of
various forms of drug "paraphernalia" (pipes, clips, rolling
papers, etc.)
Water pipes, or "bongs," are quite often the target of such
efforts. Claiming that water pipes are constructed to allow
marijuana smokers to inhale "dangerous" marijuana smoke deeper
into their lungs, many states and towns have passed laws
controlling the sale, manufacture, and possession of these items
for "health" reasons.
The sad fact is, water pipes have been shown to be extremely
effective in removing harmful materials from smoke before it
reaches the lungs. They also cool the smoke and prevent injury
and irritation to lung passages. In effect, laws against water
pipes hurt all smokers, cannabis and tobacco, by preventing the
development of safer forms of consumption.

Produced as a public service by the University of Massachusetts
at Amherst Cannabis Reform Coalition
Researched and written by Brian S. Julin

[link to www.erowid.org]
 Quoting: Agent Tray

wow
OP
User ID: 399548
3/25/2008 5:23 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Have you ever compared a smokers lung to a non-smokers?

It's very disgusting. The smokers lungs are black and puffy with bubbles and the non-smokers lungs are pink and normal
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394205


That was exposed in the 70's. They used a coal miners lungs.
OP
User ID: 399548
3/25/2008 5:29 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Study: Nicotine may increase brain function.

[link to www.collegian.psu.edu]

You smoke the ancient medicinal plant, tobacco, you're smarter.

It protects the lungs from pollution.

WHY do you think they want you to quit.
OP
User ID: 399548
3/25/2008 5:38 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Nicotine Stimulates New Blood Vessel Formation; Also Promotes Tumor Growth And Atherosclerosis.

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

GOOGLE Nicotine Stimulates New Blood Vessel Formation

200,000 pages.

This coverup's been going on for 50 years.
Gotta find something to blame for people dying from pollution, right?
OP
User ID: 399548
3/25/2008 5:40 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

"Nicotine promotes the growth of new blood vessels and can also stimulate tumor growth and the build up of plaque inside arteries..."

Which is it?
Promotes new growth and builds up plague?

Can't have both.
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