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SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 361590
3/25/2008 6:04 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Chernobyl = Cancer rates through the roof.

Mother died of breast/lung cancer. Grandmother, aunt, wife's grandmother all around the same time frame. Early 1990's. None smoked.

Same pollution causing more now than ever. Can anyone even fathom how much more dangerous exaust fumes of diesel and gasoline laced with deadly chemicals really is. Look up an MSDS on gasoline and diesel and see what it says. Even more, radiation that is airborne? And most everyone gets a good dose every single day.

It's ok though because the real cause of cancer is cigarette smoke. Even those who don't smoke might have breathed some cigarette smoke someone blew out their window and is the reason for getting sick... Never mind the HUGE amount of exhaust fumes blowing out of the tail pipes...

Any toxic pollution is fair game no matter how toxic because no one will believe that anything BUT cigarette smoke is dangerous.

I did not smoke until age 40 but that after trying everything the medical doctors could do and over the counter medicines for terrible allergies since around age 10 that tore me up daily. Sneezing, runny nose, just miserable every single day. In futility I tried cigar smoke and then cigarette smoke. Now after six years I have been virtually allergy free, no side effects to speak of, less colds and breathing great. I have not been to a doctor but maybe twice in five years whereas before it was pretty regular.

Now that's my experience but do not recommend anything to anyone but wish people would get some common sense on their own instead of being fed everything they believe from the mouths of the propaganda machine of the "free" slaves.

Even those who rant about some miniscule radation that might be in the tobacco, well, what about all of the other things that grow in the fields? What about our food and the animals we eat that eat grass and other green things?

By far in HUGE contrast is the very things that are hidden in plain sight by the mere changing of what people believe through the propaganda machine. How clever.

Check the air quality records published on the net. I live in one of the USA counties at the top of the list of bad air quality. It is this way because of the toxic chemicals in the air from industry and smog from vehicles. Clouds of this stuff come out over the area every single day. Toulene, etc.

But as long as cigarette smoke can be blamed who really is escaping the liability? Put it back on the dumb folks who bought a pack of cigarettes and the ones who make them... Then everyone will be just fine and cancer free. Ha.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 399696
3/25/2008 10:32 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

"Nicotine promotes the growth of new blood vessels and can also stimulate tumor growth and the build up of plaque inside arteries..."

Which is it?
Promotes new growth and builds up plague?

Can't have both.
 Quoting: OP 399548

Ditto! For the antis no lie is too big.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176812
3/25/2008 10:43 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

if i could afford it, i'd smoke 2, maybe three of these a day.
 Quoting: bilthy


Ha Soylent Green
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 185901
3/25/2008 11:09 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

No matter what you do, you're still going to die.
I don't care what kind of health you are in, if you watch what you eat, exercise daily, and never touch alcohol, drugs, or cigarettes you will still die.
I am here to enjoy myself while I am alive.
I smoke and I happen to believe the smell of smoke isn't nearly as bad as the pollution the chemical plant within a block from me emits.
I believe the OP is onto something.
Think back to the time of our grandparents and before.
Many of them smoked and ate farm raised foods like eggs and bacon everyday.
You just didn't hear of them dying from those lifestyles.
So maybe it's not those things killing us persay.
I do believe those things aren't that good for us but then again neither is walking down certain streets after dark.
When you're time is up it's up.
Would you rather be in perfect shape and health only to die of a heart attack at 25?
It happens all the time.
If that happened to me I'd be pissed I didn't live every day to the fullest and eat,smoke, and drink what I wanted to.
Besides, who wants to live forever in a world as fucked up as this anyway?
 Quoting: shyla


Who are you?..the wife of THE DOOM?

If not..you would make the PERFECT partner for him..

Just sayin..
Amaruca
User ID: 369984
3/25/2008 11:11 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

uhhhh.. negative.. maybe the natural form like what the natives smoked but corporations add to many chemicals.

unadulterated tobacco may be fine.
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep"
OP
User ID: 400290
3/26/2008 2:14 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

uhhhh.. negative.. maybe the natural form like what the natives smoked but corporations add to many chemicals.

unadulterated tobacco may be fine.
 Quoting: Amaruca


Right. So get the word out. There are plenty of Co's that don't fuck up tobacco and put additives in.

Same concept with chemicals in food. Co's that like to put chemicals in food to kill ya?

Don't buy from the fukers ! They'll get the message soon enough when they start losing their god. Money.
OP
User ID: 400290
3/26/2008 2:20 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Here's more CRACKS in the smoking is bad for you:

GOOGLE - nicotine Alzheimer
GOOGLE - nicotine increases brain function
GOOGLE - nicotine Parkinsons
GOOGLE - nicotine builds new blood vessels
GOOGLE - nicotine wonder drug.

Why is a pharmaceutical company funding smoking bans all around the country?
LINK - [link to cleanairquality.blogspot.com]
To corner the market on the benefits of the ancient medicinal plant.

(The blog above is put out by a non-smoker who lost his career and earnings as an Air ventilation Contractor.)

TO EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES THE LIE. FACE IT. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAKE UP.
OP
User ID: 400290
3/26/2008 2:22 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

And more:

"Endovasc Ltd., Inc. is working on a product called "Angiogenix" and is a nicotine-based treatment that appears to grow new blood vessels in the heart. It can be taken orally and, the company says, is non-addicting."
[link to www.douglassreport.com]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my entire life I was told Nicotine CAUSES heart disease?

Which is it Big Pharma ??
OP
User ID: 400290
3/26/2008 2:31 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

AC # 287857 said, "Cigarettes do help clear the lung of DU(depleted uranium)used in bombs and bullets used overseas."

Has anyone conducted a study of the survival rate of the veterans of recent wars who did smoke cigarettes during their tours of duty?

Clearly, anything done in excess is harmful. But would it be useful to reccommend that our troops smoke pure tobacco once or twice a day to help protect their lungs and survive the slow deaths veterans are experiencing after they leave the military?



This is such an absurd contention it isn't worth discussing but it is worthy of a good laugh!
 Quoting: Monadnock


Monadnock
DON'T read my posts on this page. That way you can stay the way you are. Uninformed.

Whether you like it or not. You're being lied to.
Schmieder
User ID: 324203
3/26/2008 3:47 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

I'M NOT SAYING T. IS GOOD OK... WHAT YOU BUY IS BAD !!

VERY VERY BAD.. BUT THAT IS NOT MY POINT.. !!


THE QUESTION ... WHY THEY ARE "NOW" DOING EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOU STOP SMOOKING .. THAT IS MY POINT

They did everything to make you smooke ... now they are doing everything to make you stop... WHY ???
 Quoting: Lastone 395143


Here is a possibility.

A growth in industry causing cancer, so they need to place greater emphasis on the smoking. So they up the addictive agents and tell you to quit. Ever watch a heroin addict try to quit? Thier reasons to continue to 'use' are greater then the dangers they are warned about.

But look at what is happening.....I could say the sky is more blue at 30,000 miles high. People will argue how blue the sky is not realizing the atmosphere is not 30,000 miles up. So the people believe the atmospher is 30,000 miles deep. Rather then trying to convince them of atmosphere depth upfront, cause they will argue it and probally realize the truth. Since the arguement is about the color and not the depth, people will question the color and not question the depth. Methods very similar to this are used all the time.

Since Uncle Sam 'tries' publically to get you to quit, do you question the dangers they said about smoking? Most often no. Yet, secretly, they jack up the addictive elements. Why would Uncle Sam allow tobacco co.'s to do this? It would be a big WASTE of gov. spending, yes? Not really though. They are spending such funds to cover other things up.

Heck, it would be a lot cheaper to ban tobacco altogether. Not to mention preventing the tobacco co.'s to increase the addictive properties.

Face it, Uncle Sam is a pro at fooling all of you. We, the sheeple, are not.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394205
3/26/2008 6:09 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Yeah they are lying.

Click this awesome link!

[link to whyquit.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 361590
3/26/2008 8:37 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Yeah they are lying.

Click this awesome link!

[link to whyquit.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394205

Many more in the same boat who do not smoke. But for the anti-smoking agenda find those who smoked and make a show out of them. Make them all believe it was the cigarettes.

Sick and dying, smoker = died of cigarette smoke.

Sick and dying, non smoker = died of someone elses smoke they breathed sometime past.

No one dies of any of the radiation, exhaust fumes, industrial waste, food additives, water additives, and other toxins. Good for the liability. Even though these things are thousands of times more toxic than cigarette smoke and much much more widely distributed and everyone is exposed to it. How do they get away with it? Hiding in plain sight while they point their finger and make everyone look to where they are pointing instead of at the real danger.
Lastone
User ID: 392341
3/26/2008 9:09 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

I'M NOT SAYING T. IS GOOD OK... WHAT YOU BUY IS BAD !!

VERY VERY BAD.. BUT THAT IS NOT MY POINT.. !!


THE QUESTION ... WHY THEY ARE "NOW" DOING EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOU STOP SMOOKING .. THAT IS MY POINT

They did everything to make you smooke ... now they are doing everything to make you stop... WHY ???


They have need of their people, that is you the suckers.
So instead of killing you off this way they have another use for you.

That's all there is too it, plus you make their clothing smell after spending sometime with you their thralls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397064


Did I say that I do smooke ???
Lastone
User ID: 392341
3/26/2008 9:26 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

I'M NOT SAYING T. IS GOOD OK... WHAT YOU BUY IS BAD !!

VERY VERY BAD.. BUT THAT IS NOT MY POINT.. !!


THE QUESTION ... WHY THEY ARE "NOW" DOING EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOU STOP SMOOKING .. THAT IS MY POINT

They did everything to make you smooke ... now they are doing everything to make you stop... WHY ???


Here is a possibility.

A growth in industry causing cancer, so they need to place greater emphasis on the smoking. So they up the addictive agents and tell you to quit. Ever watch a heroin addict try to quit? Thier reasons to continue to 'use' are greater then the dangers they are warned about.

But look at what is happening.....I could say the sky is more blue at 30,000 miles high. People will argue how blue the sky is not realizing the atmosphere is not 30,000 miles up. So the people believe the atmospher is 30,000 miles deep. Rather then trying to convince them of atmosphere depth upfront, cause they will argue it and probally realize the truth. Since the arguement is about the color and not the depth, people will question the color and not question the depth. Methods very similar to this are used all the time.

Since Uncle Sam 'tries' publically to get you to quit, do you question the dangers they said about smoking? Most often no. Yet, secretly, they jack up the addictive elements. Why would Uncle Sam allow tobacco co.'s to do this? It would be a big WASTE of gov. spending, yes? Not really though. They are spending such funds to cover other things up.

Heck, it would be a lot cheaper to ban tobacco altogether. Not to mention preventing the tobacco co.'s to increase the addictive properties.

Face it, Uncle Sam is a pro at fooling all of you. We, the sheeple, are not.
 Quoting: Schmieder 324203


I did wrote this first....

And think about this...
If they are spending money in wars all over the place... Buildings down (9/11)... doing everything possible to end, ... the stock market...your savings.... your house... your job... your health... and your economie...YOU, WHY doing everything to make people stop smooking?

Are they doing any thing to stop Hearth destruction?

Are they stoping to sell shit that should make you feel better but doesn't.

They have free energy... do they use it???

Nop... they are not. But they do wont people to stop smooking. THEY ARE REALY NICE GUYS...

WHY??? Not for me or you ... something bigger is on the table.

I do Hope that i'm wrong.

( sorry about the "english" doing my best :) )
Lastone
User ID: 392341
3/26/2008 9:28 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Wrote This first....


Take a pause and think a litle with me...

The taxes on T. are very high...

They are doing what they can to make you stop smoking... why?

Do you think it is because it is bad for you?

If you're giving them money, WHY ? Because you spend more money in Hospitals ??

NOP... I do not think so !!!

NOW .. A question?

What happens to a person that is use to smooke metals... and all does bad things in T. ? What will happen if they try to give you bad things.. ... Chaimtrails etc..... ?

NOTHING !!! Your body is use to them !! You develope defenses to does things. Your body will not feeel the poison as they give it to you.

It is like snake poison.. if your use to it.. an a snake bits you, you've the anti-poison in your BLOOD !!!

Yes smooking is bad...it is not good for your body... but that is not the reason they want you to stop smooking!

OK... I'M CRAZY!!!.. AM I ???
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356083
3/26/2008 9:39 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Yes smooking is bad...it is not good for your body... but that is not the reason they want you to stop smooking!

OK... I'M CRAZY!!!.. AM I ???
 Quoting: Lastone 392341

No don't think you're crazy.
Tobacco does seem to immunize the smoker against some things.
I really don't know what the flu is and it's been years since I had a cold, and decades since I went to a doctor for anything that wasn't very minor.
My family has a history of allergies to dust,industrial chemicals, pollen and even in her fifties my sister gets all that plus asthma (which I used to get very badly when young).
I'm the only smoker (oh sinful wicked person!)AND I'm the virtually the only one not affected by lung problems.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 396849
3/26/2008 10:14 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

one particle of plutonium will cause lung cancer.

all the nuke testing and people wonder why there is lung cancer in all spectrums of the population.

smoking? no. I smoke and have for years and am never sick nor grumpy.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 400555
3/26/2008 10:20 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

The guy who worked at our bank for 40 years just died of lung cancer.

He never smoked a cigarette in his life.
all_the_kings_horses​
User ID: 400676
3/26/2008 10:30 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

good info..... a few years ago Joe Vialls wrote a piece about smoking, somewhat along this line of reasoning, food for thought!

So, you thought it was the tar that caused cancer...

Think again. Cigarette companies will have you believing
anything just as long as you continue to buy their products. The
fact is, although insoluble tars are a contributing factor to the
lung cancer danger present in today's cigarettes, the real danger
is radioactivity.
According to U.S. Surgeon General C. Everette
Koop (on national television, 1990) radioactivity, not tar,
accounts for at least 90% of all smoking related lung cancer.
Tobacco crops grown in the United States are fertilized by law
with phosphates rich in radium 226. In addition, many soils have
a natural radium 226 content. Radium 226 breaks down into two long
lived 'daughter' elements -- lead 210 and polonium 210. These
radioactive particles become airborne, and attach themselves to the
fine hairs on tobacco leaves.

Studies have shown that lead 210 and polonium 210 deposits
accumulate in the bodies of people exposed to cigarette smoke.
Data collected in the late 1970's shows that smokers have three
times as much of these elements in their lower lungs as non
smokers. Smokers also show a greater accumulation of lead 210 and
polonium 210 in their skeletons,though no studies have been
conducted to link these deposits with bone cancer. Polonium 210 is
the only component of cigarette smoke which has produced tumors by
itself in inhalation experiments with animals.
When a smoker inhales tobacco smoke, the lungs react by
forming irritated areas in the bronchi. All smoke produces this
effect. However, although these irritated spots are referred to as
'pre-cancerous' lesions, they are a perfectly natural defense
system and usually go away with no adverse effects. Insoluble tars
in tobacco smoke can slow this healing process by adhering to
lesions and causing additional irritation. In addition, tobacco
smoke causes the bronchi to constrict for long periods of time,
which obstructs the lung's ability to clear itself of these
residues.
Polonium 210 and lead 210 in tobacco smoke show a tendency to
accumulate at lesions in specific spots, called bifurcations, in
the bronchi.
When smoking is continued for an extended period of
time, deposits of radioactivity turn into radioactive 'hot spots'
and remain at bifurcations for years. Polonium 210 emits highly
localized alpha radiation which has been shown to cause cancer.
Since the polonium 210 has a half life of 21.5 years (Due to the
presence of lead 210), it can put an ex-smoker at risk for years
after he or she quits. Experiments measuring the level of polonium
210 in victims of lung cancer found that the level of 'hot spot'
activity was virtually the same in smokers and ex-smokers even though
the ex-smokers had quit five years prior to death.
Over half of the radioactive materials emitted by a burning
cigarette are released into the air, where they can be inhaled by
non-smokers. In addition to lead 210 and polonium 210 it has been
proven that tobacco smoke can cause airborne radioactive particles
to collect in the lungs of both smokers and non-smokers exposed to
second hand smoke.
Original studies conducted on uranium miners
which showed an increased risk of lung cancer due to exposure to
radon in smokers have been re-run to evaluate the radioactive lung
cancer risk from indoor air radon. It turns out that tobacco smoke
works as a kind of 'magnet' for airborne radioactive particles,
causing them to deposit in your lungs instead of on furniture.
(Smoking indoors increases lung cancer risks greatly.)
It has been estimated that the total accumulated alpha
radiation exposure of a pack-a-day indoor smoker is 38 to 97 rad by
age 60.
(Two packs a day yields up to 143 rad, and non-smokers
receive no more than 17 rad.) An exposure of 1 rad per year yields
a 1% risk of lung cancer (at the lowest estimate.)
Don't smoke. Or if you do, smoke lightly, outdoors, and
engage frequently in activities which will clear your lungs.
Imported India tobacco has less than half the radiation content of
that grown in the U.S.
Kicking the nicotine habit is not easy, and nobody has the
right to expect it of you. Often physical addictions are
reinforced by emotional and psychological needs. Filling or coming
to terms with those needs can give you the inspiration and added
freedom to succeed.
Most of all, inform yourself, even if the information is
disturbing. You are a lot less likely to be taken in by tobacco
advertising once you know the facts.


Nicotine, the active ingredient in tobacco smoke, has long
been known to be highly addictive. In fact, doctors and
pharmacologists are not in consensus as to which is more addictive
-- nicotine, or heroin. Physical addiction occurs when a chemical
becomes essential for the body or metabolism to function. In other
words, a substance is said to be physically addictive if extended
use results in a build up of tolerance in the body to the extent
that discontinuing use of the substance results in negative side
effects. Called "withdrawal symptoms," these consequences can
include anxiety, stress, trauma, depression and physical conditions
such as shakes or nausea. It is to avoid these consequences that
an addict will keep using his or her substance.
In addition to being addictive, nicotine is also a toxin (i.e.
lethal if ingested in sufficient quantities.) Nicotine has been
shown to have a negative effect on the heart and circulatory
systems, causing a constriction in veins and arteries which may
lead to a stroke or heart attack. In fact, nicotine is so
poisonous that smokers who ignore their doctor's advice and
continue to smoke while using dermal nicotine patches have managed
to overdose and die of heart seizure.

Many people think smoking marijuana is just as harmful as
smoking tobacco, but this is not true. Those who hold that
marijuana is equivalent to tobacco are misinformed. Due to the
efforts of various federal agencies to discourage use of
marijuana in the 1970's the government, in a fit of "reefer
madness," conducted several biased studies designed to return
results that would equate marijuana smoking with tobacco smoking,
or worse.
For example the Berkeley carcinogenic tar studies of the
late 1970's concluded that "marijuana is one-and-a-half times as
carcinogenic as tobacco." This finding was based solely on the
tar content of cannabis leaves compared to that of tobacco, and
did not take radioactivity into consideration. (Cannabis tars do
not contain radioactive materials.) In addition, it was not
considered that:
1) Most marijuana smokers smoke the bud, not the leaf, of
the plant. The bud contains only 33% as much tar as tobacco.
2) Marijuana smokers do not smoke anywhere near as much as
tobacco smokers, due to the psychoactive effects of cannabis.
3) Not one case of lung cancer has ever been successfully
linked to marijuana use.
4) Cannabis, unlike tobacco, does not cause any narrowing of
the small air passageways in the lungs.
In fact, marijuana has been shown to be an expectorant and
actually dilates the air channels it comes in contact with. This
is why many asthma sufferers look to marijuana to provide relief.
Doctors have postulated that marijuana may, in this respect, be
more effective than all of the prescription drugs on the market.
Studies even show that due to marijuana's ability to clear
the lungs of smog, pollutants, and cigarette smoke, it may
actually reduce your risk of emphysema, bronchitis, and lung
cancer. Smokers of cannabis have been shown to outlive non-
smokers in some areas by up to two years. Medium to heavy
tobacco smokers will live seven to ten years longer if they also
smoke marijuana.
Cannabis is also radically different from tobacco in that it
does not contain nicotine and is not addictive. The psychoactive
ingredient in marijuana, THC, has been accused of causing brain
and genetic damage, but these studies have all been disproven.
In fact, the DEA's own Administrative Law Judge Francis Young has
declared that "marijuana in its natural form is far safer than
many foods we commonly consume."

The disturbing thing about all of this information is that
the majority of Americans are as yet unaware of the radioactive
risk in cigarettes. In fact, many professionals: doctors,
scientists and health administrators, either have never heard of
polonium 210 or consider it to be just another scare story.
Why is this information so hard to come by? When the
studies were first released in the late 70's, many magazines were
unable to print articles because their main advertisers,
cigarette companies, threatened to pull support if they published
the facts. Although network news did pick up the story,
virtually nothing came out in print. Those who heard were hard
pressed to produce collaborating evidence, and were eventually
convinced it was nothing to worry about.
The power of the cigarette industry to suppress information
goes far beyond magazines, however. A well financed tobacco
lobby has been very active in the United States Congress for
decades procuring subsidies and fighting laws and proposed
research which could hurt the American tobacco industry. Tobacco
interests practically own Senate and House seats, as many
campaign contributions come from cigarette profits. Tobacco pay-
offs also go to fund organizations such as the Partnership For A
Drug Free America, which adopt a harsh anti-drug agenda yet seem
to omit alcohol and tobacco (claiming they are harmless.)
As an example, a 1984 law which was intended to require
tobacco companies to release to the public a list of additives
used in the manufacture of cigarettes was watered down to the
extent that the list is now released only to the Department of
Health and Human Services on the condition that it not be shown
to anyone else. Companies have been known in the past to add
chemicals to cigarettes for flavor, and, many assert, for their
addictive properties. In Britain such chemicals have included
acetone and turpentine, as well as an assortment of known
carcinogens.
Tobacco companies argue that revealing their 'secret
ingredients' would hurt their competitiveness. In fact, when
Canada passed legislation forcing additive lists to be released,
one large company reformulated its recipe for its Canadian
distribution; another took its product out of Canada entirely.
Tobacco companies do not have the right to poison the
public. Don't trust them. Get the information you need to make
your own decisions, and restore government to the people.

Another destructive aspect of the Drug War is the
unreasonable measures taken as a result of "reefer madness."
Because of the long standing anti-pot-smoking paranoia begun in
the 1930's, many law enforcement agencies have taken it upon
themselves to censor and limit the marijuana culture through
whatever channels they can find. This includes the banning of
various forms of drug "paraphernalia" (pipes, clips, rolling
papers, etc.)
Water pipes, or "bongs," are quite often the target of such
efforts. Claiming that water pipes are constructed to allow
marijuana smokers to inhale "dangerous" marijuana smoke deeper
into their lungs, many states and towns have passed laws
controlling the sale, manufacture, and possession of these items
for "health" reasons.
The sad fact is, water pipes have been shown to be extremely
effective in removing harmful materials from smoke before it
reaches the lungs. They also cool the smoke and prevent injury
and irritation to lung passages. In effect, laws against water
pipes hurt all smokers, cannabis and tobacco, by preventing the
development of safer forms of consumption.

Produced as a public service by the University of Massachusetts
at Amherst Cannabis Reform Coalition
Researched and written by Brian S. Julin

[link to www.erowid.org]
 Quoting: Agent Tray
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193848
3/26/2008 10:34 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

The secret is don't inhale. Much less addictive that way. I think the burning paper is worse than the tobacco. The paper is bleached with chlorine. When burned, it forms carcinogenic compounds. It's the paper that makes the second-hand smoke stink so bad. Burning pure tobacco smells fine.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 362074
3/27/2008 12:19 AM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

The secret is don't inhale. Much less addictive that way. I think the burning paper is worse than the tobacco. The paper is bleached with chlorine. When burned, it forms carcinogenic compounds. It's the paper that makes the second-hand smoke stink so bad. Burning pure tobacco smells fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 193848

Hmm only ever smoke small cigars, and some of them my body can tell have "stuff" in them so I keep to a particular brand.
I'm very sensitive to ordinary cigarettes and really don't like the smell or taste,they make me sick almost instantly.
It's the additives.
OP
User ID: 401257
3/27/2008 12:14 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

The secret is don't inhale. Much less addictive that way. I think the burning paper is worse than the tobacco. The paper is bleached with chlorine. When burned, it forms carcinogenic compounds. It's the paper that makes the second-hand smoke stink so bad. Burning pure tobacco smells fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 193848


Agree with everything you said except for one thing. You actually have to inhale to get the benefits of pure tobacco.

You can get papers made out of natural material, rice, hemp, flax seed, etc.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402251
3/28/2008 1:18 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

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yaba daba doo
User ID: 426788
5/2/2008 10:49 AM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

This is how dumb people are... Sheeple, I liked that.....


Ummmm, 2 words,..... and even the fbi arrested this guy for it...



ORSON WELLS!!!!!

HE EVEN SAYS, THIS FICTICIOUS PROGRAM BROUGHT OT YOU BY,... and LETS T AKE A COMMERICAL BREAK LIKE 10 times. yet people ran for thier live and evev the FBI arrested him when he told the world it was ficticiuous...


So many idiots doing what they are told, just like sheep, or cows in the slaughter line, TV is running the world and 95% of the USA's people have been stupified on purpose...

Why are you not smarter than a 5th grader huh?

There is a reason for it......



Question tho, what reason? do you even know of is your life so busy that only TV gets your spare time (the LIE MACHINE)..

Zombies to the Television, TV is bad and Media Manipulates you with lies and deceite.



P.S. I havent gont a single cold since i stopped smoking.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18328
5/2/2008 11:31 AM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

Anything we breathe can cause cancer. I have known many people in my lifetime who never smoked and died of lung cancer. Think asbestos. Ring any bells? Coal dust..

Fact of the matter is it is the body that ultimately determines whether a cancer will manifest, but then again there are certain foods and programs you can use to minimize the probability of contracting the disease if it is a ancestral re-occurrence.

Pro and con of this, like many other 'sin' items is left up to the whims of political correctness. My parents and grand parents smoked on both sides of the family, heavily. They smoked in the house, in the car, in the store, and everywhere with us there. I can't recall an instance whereby any of my siblings, cousins, or any of those who smoked at the time developed any illnesses due directly to smoking, so I don't buy the second hand smoke theory, either.

In case you're wondering, 2 of the kids in this family who spent their lives around this second hand smoke grew up to be professional athletes and 1 of them competed in the olympics.

I guess we can put that in our pipes and smoke it. ROFL. Incidentally my father himself is 81 years old very healthy and has smoked since he joined the army at 17. Figure that. I reckon some day he'll die.

Then I can say "I told ya so"......
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426804
5/2/2008 11:33 AM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

CLINICAL RESEARCH SHOWS SMOKING IS GOOD FOR YOU!

THERAPEUTIC EFFECTS OF SMOKING AND NICOTINE
Impact of Smoking on Clinical and Angiographic Restenosis After Percutaneous Coronary Intervention – This large study shows yet another benefit of smoking. This time the benefit concerns restenosis, that is, the occlusion of coronary arteries. Smokers have much better chances to survive, heal and do well. .......

Severe Gum Recession, Less Of A Risk For Smokers - In the strange world that anti-tobacco has wrought, any research that deviates from the tobacco-is-the-root-of-all-evil template is noteworthy. Here is a study that shows that smokers are actually at lower risk from gum disease. In this page (scroll down) there is more scientific evidence from other sources about oral health and smoking.

TWIN STUDY Supports Protective Effect of Smoking For Parkinson's Disease ...

Total silence from the antismoking mass media droids, of course, on this pivotal, long-range study that shows yet another benefit of smoking. The reasons are obvious, and they need no further comments. .........

Does tobacco smoke prevent atopic disorders? A study of two generations of Swedish residents - "In a multivariate analysis, children of MOTHERS who smoked at least 15 cigarettes a day tended to have lower odds for suffering from allergic rhino-conjunctivitis, allergic asthma, atopic eczema and food allergy, compared to children of mothers who had never smoked (ORs 0.6-0.7). Children of FATHERS who had smoked at least 15 cigarettes a day had a similar tendency (ORs 0.7-0.9)."

Kids of smokers have LOWER asthma! You certainly won't see this one on the health news of BBC or ABC, as they are too busy trying to convince us that smokers "cause" asthma in their kids - and in the kids of others. That, of course, is not true, as smoking does not "cause" asthma.

SHOCKER: 'Villain' nicotine slays TB - "Nicotine might be a surprising alternative someday for treating stubborn forms of tuberculosis, a University of Central Florida researcher said Monday. The compound STOPPED the growth of tuberculosis in laboratory tests, even when used in small quantities, said Saleh Naser, an associate professor of microbiology and molecular biology at UCF. ... Most scientists agree that nicotine is the substance that causes people to become addicted to cigarettes and other tobacco products."

"… But no one is suggesting that people with TB take up the potentially deadly habit of smoking." Of course not.It is much better to develop medication-resistant superbugs than to start smoking...It should be said that the "most scientists" in question are paid off by the pharmaceutical industry for their research; and that most of the aforementioned "scientists" promote the nicotine-based "cessation" products manufactured by their masters -- mysteriously without explaining why such an addictive substance becomes "un-addictive" when used to quit smoking!

Carbon Monoxide May Alleviate Heart Attacks And Stroke - Carbon monoxide is a by-product of tobacco smoke. A report indicates very low levels of carbon monoxide may help victims of heart attacks and strokes. Carbon monoxide inhibits blood clotting, thereby dissolving harmful clots in the arteries.

The researchers focused on carbon monoxide's close resemblance to nitric oxide which keeps blood vessels from dilating and prevents the buildup of white blood cells. "Recently nitric oxide has been elevated from a common air pollutant . . . to an [internal] second messenger of utmost physiological importance. Therefore, many of us may not be entirely surprised to learn that carbon monoxide can paradoxically rescue the lung from [cardiovascular blockage] injury." The pharmacological benefits of tobacco are nothing new.

AND MORE:

Smoking Prevents Rare Skin Cancer

Smoking Reduces The Risk Of Breast Cancer

Nicotine Benefits - The benefits of nicotine -- and smoking -- are described in this bibliography. This information is an example of what the anti-tobacco groups do not want publicized because it fails to support their agenda.

Some of the studies report benefits not just from nicotine, but from smoking itself. But of course, according to the anti-smokers, all these scientists have been "paid by the tobacco industry" ... even though this is not true. Sadly, personal slander and misinformation are the price a scientist has to pay for honest work on tobacco.

ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE IS ASSOCIATED WITH Non-Smoking - "A statistically significant inverse relation between smoking and Alzheimer's disease was observed at all levels of analysis, with a trend towards decreasing risk with increasing consumption".

Smoking Your Way to Good Health - ...

Now the same anti-tobacco enterprise that has spent billions demonizing the pleasure of smoking is providing additional reasons to smoke. Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Tourette's Syndrome, even schizophrenia and cocaine addiction are disorders that are alleviated by tobacco. Add in the still inconclusive indication that tobacco helps to prevent colon and prostate cancer and the endorsement for smoking tobacco by the medical establishment is good news for smokers and non-smokers alike.

...when all is said and done, the positive revelations regarding tobacco are very good reasons indeed to keep lighting those cigarettes.

AND SO MUCH MORE - WTIH FACT SHEETS TO BOOT!

[link to www.forces.org]
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 404589
5/2/2008 11:52 AM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

OP is correct!


Experiment for all you anti smoking assholes:


I'll sit in a closed one car garage for five hours chain smoking...

You sit in a closed one car garage with your car running for five hours...

SEE who's healthier then!!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18328
5/2/2008 12:03 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

OP is correct!


Experiment for all you anti smoking assholes:


I'll sit in a closed one car garage for five hours chain smoking...

You sit in a closed one car garage with your car running for five hours...

SEE who's healthier then!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 404589


Take the smoke....

Sitting in a closed garage with a car running will render you unconscious in less than 30 minutes and left alone, death would occur shortly there after. I see your point, but please don't anyone be silly enough to try this to prove a point....

I mena, I know better, but some may not....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385499
5/2/2008 12:08 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

2) Marijuana smokers do not smoke anywhere near as much as
tobacco smokers, due to the psychoactive effects of cannabis.
 Quoting: Agent Tray


T.G.I.F


AWWWWWWWWWW JEA....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426695
5/2/2008 12:10 PM
Re: SMOKING IS HEALTHY ! .......YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO.Quote

I always knew it! If it was bad for us and would kill us the government would not bother! THEY would rather promote it! Depopulation! ;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 395673


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