Willy Wonka (Bible, God, Satan) | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 381736 United States 03/19/2008 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you see who has the reigns now OP? I have been telling you of me for all this week. My stories are littered in Hollywood but you have watched them for entertainment instead of the underlying messages. The government also is in my domain and I am telling my higher self to allow it to devour its tail. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 380553 United States 03/19/2008 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You could say that maybe it portrays Satan as a reliable servant of God that was only playing a "role" and that God is telling a "white lie" to us about Satan and all that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376196I have always thought it was a very spiritual movie. Purity of heart and imagination are all you need to be in the Kingdom of God and sin isn't about "doing evil"- it's about separating yourself from God. But God's always there waiting for you to return. |
Shevar User ID: 361147 Netherlands 03/19/2008 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You could say that maybe it portrays Satan as a reliable servant of God that was only playing a "role" and that God is telling a "white lie" to us about Satan and all that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380553I have always thought it was a very spiritual movie. Purity of heart and imagination are all you need to be in the Kingdom of God and sin isn't about "doing evil"- it's about separating yourself from God. But God's always there waiting for you to return. So the 10 commandments are bullshit? That means you invalidate part of the scripture and thus believe that god is fallible (since he clearly wrote the bible *cough*). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 425481 United States 06/15/2008 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just saw a musical version of WW and there was a guy in the audience wearing a t-shirt that said "what part of 'thou shalt not' don't you understand?" so maybe the OP is onto something here. But others have suggested that WW represents Satan and that the factory = hell where the oompa loompas toil endlessly. Chocolate could represent feces and all that's foul on earth but that we think is gold. Charlie is no saint -- he takes the fizzie juice that makes him and his grandpa float up toward heaven, where they will be chopped to bits by the fan until the start burping their way back to earth. Wonka hates people, and is glad when the disobedient ones die. But he's giving his "factory" to Charlie, so how evil is he? Charlie has the chance to usher in a new order, but he won't. He'll be the same oppressor of oompa-loompas as Wonka. That's the circle of life, kids. What a dismal tale for children. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376196 United States 06/24/2008 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just saw a musical version of WW and there was a guy in the audience wearing a t-shirt that said "what part of 'thou shalt not' don't you understand?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 425481so maybe the OP is onto something here. But others have suggested that WW represents Satan and that the factory = hell where the oompa loompas toil endlessly. Chocolate could represent feces and all that's foul on earth but that we think is gold. Charlie is no saint -- he takes the fizzie juice that makes him and his grandpa float up toward heaven, where they will be chopped to bits by the fan until the start burping their way back to earth. Wonka hates people, and is glad when the disobedient ones die. But he's giving his "factory" to Charlie, so how evil is he? Charlie has the chance to usher in a new order, but he won't. He'll be the same oppressor of oompa-loompas as Wonka. That's the circle of life, kids. What a dismal tale for children. That is why they made the 2nd Willy Wonka a couple of years ago. It distorts the message of the first one. The newer Willy Wonka is actually very much liked by Marilyn Manson. |
wonbyOne User ID: 165715 United States 06/24/2008 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good VS evil: the old, old, old story. Great observation, OP. The Cindrella story hit me the same way not long ago - - I posted a thread here at godlike if you're interested. As for WW, free will = choice. Choose now Whom you will serve. You gotta serve somebody (quoting Bob Dylan). |
wonbyOne User ID: 165715 United States 06/24/2008 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't recall the ending but don't they head for the heavens in a hot air balloon? Good VS evil: the old, old, old story. Great observation, OP. The Cindrella story hit me the same way not long ago - - I posted a thread here at godlike if you're interested. As for WW, free will = choice. Choose now Whom you will serve. You gotta serve somebody (quoting Bob Dylan). |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376196 United States 06/24/2008 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But Slugworth worked for Willy Wonka. He was sent out complete with competing business front to tempt and ultimately help weed out the "bad eggs". If anything, I'd say Wonka himself was satan and he gave all of the would-be sinners the chance, choice and means to destory themselves so that he might find the purest heart in which to instill the blackest evil. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 435027Yeah, but his grandfather came along with him, as well, his family. So it wasn't just Charlie. Basically Charlie, found the truth. He gave the everlasting gobstopper back to Wonka, and thus he won! Slugworth all along was a good guy. |
nothing if not an idea User ID: 457536 United States 06/24/2008 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting interpretation. I think the many of our most appealing and timeless stories can be understood as spiritual allegory. Just a few of the more recent: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass The Wonderful Wizard of Oz Peter Pan The Lord of the Rings trilogy (of course) What meaning we find speaks as much about ourselves as about the authors, if not more! |
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thank you! User ID: 567821 United States 12/07/2008 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My friends an i were just having a religious discussion and i brought up an old theory i have had for a while about willy wonka and how i believe that it is possible that the devil actually works for god to tempt people to test them. So i decided to look up if anyone else had this theory and you do! so thank you! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 567719 United States 12/07/2008 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My friends an i were just having a religious discussion and i brought up an old theory i have had for a while about willy wonka and how i believe that it is possible that the devil actually works for god to tempt people to test them. So i decided to look up if anyone else had this theory and you do! so thank you! Quoting: thank you! 567821satan is not working for god god is using him |