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3/20/2008 4:17 AM
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I have been reading a bit of articles which is about whether if Vaccines cause autism,looks like it does but why are the pharmaceutical companies keeping the autism danger quiet?
McCarthy: Vaccines Cause Autism
Reported by: Jaye Watson
Last Modified: 11/22/2007 5:21:32 PM
She breezes into the room, lonI sucking strides, arms waving a wide hello. "Don't mind them, they're my documentary crew." Jenny McCarthy makes a celebrity-worthy entrance for the interview with 11Alive reporter Jaye Watson and photojournalist Kenny Hamilton.
Related Story: Finding a Way to Heal Autism
She seems agitated, excited.
"I'm going to the CDC today, I'm going to the CDC today," she says, sing song. Sitting down, she's still bouncing.
It's almost incongruous, this Hollywood comedian-turned Autism spokeswoman. But that is what happened when Jenny's son Evan was diagnosed at the age of 2.
For the past few months, she has been on a whirlwind book junket across the country, sitting across from Larry King, sitting next to Oprah, sitting between the women on "The View." Now, she's in Atlanta to speak to parents attending the National Autism Association conference.
But from the beginning of the interview her message was constant. "Take the crap out. Get rid of the ether, the antifreeze, the mercury, the aluminum," McCarthy said. "They're just cheap preservatives. I'd pay four times as much for a clean vaccine!"
McCarthy believes these ingredients, along with many others actually "trigger" autism in susceptible children.
McCarthy said she doesn't know the definition of "susceptible" in this world. It could be a child born with a compromised immune system. It could be a child simply overwhelmed by too many vaccines at once. These theories of McCarthy's are shared by thousands of other parents who believe vaccines may in some way contribute to autism.
Twenty years ago, four in 10,000 children was diagnosed. Today the number is one in 150.
"In 1983, children received ten shots. Today they get 36. Thirty-six! Is no one looking at this and thinking, what?" McCarthy asked.
But researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said ingredients in vaccines have never been proven to cause autism, that a connection has not been found. Researchers have said that even after mercury was removed from most vaccines, the rate of autism has not declined.
But McCarthy said that the reason is that there are still neurotoxins in vaccines given to children.
While the CDC confirmed these ingredients are in vaccines, they said each ingredient is in each vaccine for a reason. Dr. Melinda Wharton, Deputy Director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases said the only way to truly protect children from diseases is to vaccinate them on time.
Some medical experts have suggested that stretching out the vaccine schedule might help some children who are overwhelmed by too many shots. But Dr. Wharton says that is something they cannot recommend, because the schedule is such so that a child can receive maximum protection at the earliest age possible.
McCarthy said she's not anti-vaccine, she's anti-toxin.
While the proof may only be anecdotal, or mother-instinct, thousands of parents share her belief that vaccines in some way harmed their child.
On her book tour, and in this interview McCarthy talked about "Mommy Instinct."
She urges parents of affected children to follow their instinct in treating for, and even fighting for care for their children.
To the CDC she said, "Stop poisoning our children. Remove the toxins from vaccines. It's time. Remove them, and then, maybe, we'll shut up."
After the interview, it's off to a packed auditorium. From the podium, she whipped out her cell phone, calls the CDC, and left a voice mail demanding toxins be taken out of vaccines. Then she had the crowd of hundreds shout hello. She giggled, tossing her head back.
"Okay, call me back."
At the end of her talk, she told the crowd, "Don't worry, I'll keep goin' out there."
While her views may not be shared by everyone, a long overlooked community feels they have someone fighting for them. The fact that that someone is a blond Hollywood celebrity makes it even better. She is getting the airtime and the recognition they've been fighting for, for years. And maybe, they'll finally get some answers that will help their children. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 350460
3/20/2008 10:57 AM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
Stupid parents cause autism.......that IS correct. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385751
3/20/2008 11:40 AM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
Alex Jones talks about how the same Vaccine's being used for the UN in 3rd world country's and causing autism.
UN just gets a slap on the wrist, cause hey there the friggin boss who is going too punish them in the first place?
www.prisonplanet.com |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 396238
3/20/2008 11:43 AM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
And so it begins...
Another f*cking thread about vaccines and autism.
Do you idiots have any idea what a population without vaccination would look like?
You would be SCREAMING for the medical community to do something about it. |
| Definitely
User ID: 472328
7/23/2008 1:08 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
Stupid parents cause autism.......that IS correct. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 350460
Then I pray you never have (or don't currently have) children, because you'd definitely be a candidate for a child with autism, making such a STUPID statement! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471744
7/23/2008 1:11 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
My son became very sick the same day he received a triple vaccination. The leg he was jabbed in swoll up and he had a very high fever for several days. He stopped talking and would not turn his head when you talked to him. He lost all interest in playing with other children
We had him tested for all kinds of chemical imbalances and one thing that came up was a very high percentage of aluminum in his blood from the preservative used in the vaccination (they use mercury or aluminum for this purposes-at least they used to).
He has been repeatedly diagnosed with severe autism.
With continuing intensive speech and physical therapy he has markedly improved.
If you have never seen your beautiful, perfect, bright, outgoing, affectionate, child become autistic as you watch helplessly-well, I hope you never do. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472256
7/23/2008 1:16 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
[link to thinktwice.com]
Are New Vaccines
Laced with Birth-Control Drugs?
During the early 1990s, the World Health Organization (WHO) had been overseeing massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in a number of countries, among them Nicaragua, Mexico, and the Philippines. In October 1994, HLI received a communication from its Mexican affiliate, the Comite' Pro Vida de Mexico, regarding that country's anti-tetanus campaign. Suspicious of the campaign protocols, the Comite' obtained several vials of the vaccine and had them analyzed by chemists. Some of the vials were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a naturally occurring hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy.
hCG and Anti-hCG Antibodies
In nature the hCG hormone alerts the woman's body that she is pregnant and causes the release of other hormones to prepare the uterine lining for the implantation of the fertilized egg. The rapid rise in hCG levels after conception makes it an excellent marker for confirmation of pregnancy: when a woman takes a pregnancy test she is not tested for the pregnancy itself, but for the elevated presence of hCG.
However, when introduced into the body coupled with a tetanus toxoid carrier, antibodies will be formed not only against tetanus but also against hCG. In this case the body fails to recognize hCG as a friend and will produce anti-hCG antibodies. The antibodies will attack subsequent pregnancies by killing the hCG which naturally sustains a pregnancy; when a woman has sufficient anti-hCG antibodies in her system, she is rendered incapable of maintaining a pregnancy.(1)
HLI reported the sketchy facts regarding the Mexican tetanus vaccines to its World Council members and affiliates in more than 60 countries.(2) Soon additional reports of vaccines laced with hCG hormones began to drift in from the Philippines, where more than 3.4 million women were recently vaccinated. Similar reports came from Nicaragua, which had conducted its own vaccination campaign in 1993.
The Known Facts
Here are the known facts concerning the tetanus vaccination campaigns in Mexico and the Philippines:
* Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.) But aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?
* Human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG) hormone has been found in the vaccines. It does not belong there -- in the parlance of the O.J. Simpson murder trial, the vaccine has been "contaminated."
* The vaccination protocols call for multiple injections -- three within three months and a total of five altogether. But, since tetanus vaccinations provide protection for ten years or more, why are multiple inoculations called for?(3)
* WHO has been actively involved for more than 20 years in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG tied to tetanus toxoid as a carrier -- the exact same coupling as has been found in the Mexican-Philippine-Nicaragua vaccines.(4)
The Anti-Fertility Gang
Allied with the WHO in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine (AFV) using hCG with tetanus and other carriers have been UNFPA, the UN Development Programme (UNDP), the World Bank, the Population Council, the Rockefeller Foundation, the All India Institute of Medical Sciences, and a number of universities, including Uppsala, Helsinki, and Ohio State.(5) The U.S. National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (part of NIH) was the supplier of the hCG hormone in some of the AFV experiments.(6)
The WHO begain its "Special Programme" in human reproduction in 1972, and by 1993 had spent more than $356 million on "reproductive health" research.(7) It is this "Programme" which has pioneered the development of the abortificant vaccine. Over $90 million of this Programme's funds were contributed by Sweden; Great Britain donated more than $52 million, while Norway, Denmark and Germany kicked in for $41 million , $27 million, and $12 million, respectively. The U.S., thanks to the cut-off of such funding during the Reagan-Bush administrations, has contributed "only" $5.7 million, including a new payment in 1993 by the Clinton administration of $2.5 million. Other major contibutors to the WHO Programme include UNFPA, $61 million; the World Bank, $15.5 million; the Rockefeller Foundation, $2.5 million; the Ford Foundation, over $1 million; and the IDRC (International Research and Development Centre of Canada), $716.5 thousand.
WHO and Philippine Health Department Excuses
When the first reports surfaced in the Philippines of tetanus toxoid vaccine being laced with hCG hormones, the WHO and the Philippine Department of Health (DOH) immediately denied that the vaccine contained hCG. Confronted with the results of laboratory tests which detected its presence in three of the four vials of tetanus toxoid examined, the WHO and DOH scoffed at the evidence coming from "right-to-life and Catholic" sources. Four new vials of the tetanus vaccine were submitted by DOH to St. Luke's (Lutheran) Medical Center in Manila -- and all four vials tested positive for hCG!
From outright denial the stories now shifted to the allegedly "insignificant" quantity of the hCG present; the volume of hCG present is insufficient to produce anti-hCG antibodies.
But new tests designed to detect the presence of hCG antibodies in the blood sera of women vaccinated with the tetauns toxoid vaccine were undertaken by Philippine pro-life and Catholic groups. Of thirty women tested subsequent to receiving tetanus toxoid vaccine, twenty-six tested positive for high levels of anti-hCG! If there were no hCG in the vaccine, or if it were present in only "insignificant" quantities, why were the vaccinated women found to be harboring anti-hCG antibodies? The WHO and the DOH had no answers.
New arguments surfaced: hCG's apparent presence in the vaccine was due to "false positives" resulting from the particular substances mixed in the vaccine or in the chemicals testing for hCG. And even if hCG was really there, its presence derived from the manufacturing process.
But the finding of hCG antibodies in the blood sera of vaccinated women obviated the need to get bogged down in such debates. It was no longer necessary to argue about what may or may not have been the cause of the hCG presence, when one now had the effect of the hCG. There is no known way for the vaccinated women to have hCG antibodies in their blood unless hCG had been artificially introduced into their bodies!
Why A Tetanus Toxoid "Carrier"?
Because the human body does not attack its own naturally occurring hormone hCG, the body has to be fooled into treating hCG as an invading enemy in order to develop a successful anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG antibodies. A paper delivered at the 4th International Congress of Reproductive Immunology (Kiel, West Germany, 26-29 July 1989) spelled it out: "Linkage to a carrier was done to overcome the immunological tolerance to hCG."(8)
Vaccine Untested by Drug Bureau
After the vaccine controversy had reached a fever pitch, a new bombshell exploded; none of the three different brands of tetanus vaccine being used had ever been licensed for sale and distribution or registered with the Philippine Bureau of Food and Drugs (BFAD), as required by law. The head of the BFAD lamely explained that the companies distributing these brands "did not apply for registration."(9) The companies in question are Connaught Laboratories Ltd. and Intervex, both from Canada, and CSL Laboratories from Australia.
It seemed that the BFAD might belatedly require re-testing, but the idea was quickly rejected when the Secretary of Health declared that, since the vaccines had been certified by the WHO -- there they are again! -- there was assurance enough that the "vaccines come from reputable manufacturers."(10)
Just how "reputable" one of the manufacturers might be is open to some question. In the mid-`80s Connaught Laboratories was found to be knowingly distributing vials of AIDS-contaminated blood products.(11)
Epilogue
At this juncture, evidence is beginning to appear from Africa.(12) HLI has called for a Congressional investigation of the situation, inasmuch as nearly every agency involved in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine is funded, at least in part, with U.S. monies. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461950
7/23/2008 1:17 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
what about people who had the vaccines but have no effects of it? or mental illness before vaccines? |
| Eeyore
User ID: 472328
7/23/2008 1:28 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
My son became very sick the same day he received a triple vaccination. The leg he was jabbed in swoll up and he had a very high fever for several days. He stopped talking and would not turn his head when you talked to him. He lost all interest in playing with other children
We had him tested for all kinds of chemical imbalances and one thing that came up was a very high percentage of aluminum in his blood from the preservative used in the vaccination (they use mercury or aluminum for this purposes-at least they used to).
He has been repeatedly diagnosed with severe autism.
With continuing intensive speech and physical therapy he has markedly improved.
If you have never seen your beautiful, perfect, bright, outgoing, affectionate, child become autistic as you watch helplessly-well, I hope you never do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471744
My heart goes out to you and your family. With my son, it was pretty apparent from early on. I couldn't imagine, for all intents and purposes, "losing" a child that way. I'm glad you're seeing improvements. *Hugs* |
| childoflight
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7/23/2008 1:29 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
THIMERISOL, a preservative that is actually a form of MERCURY is the cause of most cases of Autism. When the vaccines were spaced out and not given to very young preemies most kids could handle it and their systems got rid of it. When with the best of intentions children were given several different shots on one day NOONE DID THE MATH. If they had added up the amount of tHIMERISOL that was being given in one day they would have realised that they were POISONING THESE KIDS WITH MERCURY! The symptoms are identical! Thimerisol was used safely for so long that it was GRANDFATHERED IN as a preservative.I don't think the experts that suggested that kids have more vaccines have them earlier and have them together EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE MERCURY! I am willing to bet that most of them didn't have a clue what Thimerisol actually was. In any event WE HAVE A TRAGIC SITUATION IN THIS COUNTRY NOW and it is getting worse as these kids grow and are going to need long term care. The Government knows what is involved and of course is denying everything. It is the families that are being torn apart. Who is going to do the care giving when these kids become unmanagable and their hormones start raging!!!!!! Sadly boys are affected more as estrogen is preotective! This is a TERRIBLE DISASTER THAT HAS AFFECTED A WHOLE GENERATION OF KIDS and someone needs to stand up and tell these parents the truth. Their kids were poisoned by mercury! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472256
7/23/2008 1:33 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
My son became very sick the same day he received a triple vaccination. The leg he was jabbed in swoll up and he had a very high fever for several days. He stopped talking and would not turn his head when you talked to him. He lost all interest in playing with other children
We had him tested for all kinds of chemical imbalances and one thing that came up was a very high percentage of aluminum in his blood from the preservative used in the vaccination (they use mercury or aluminum for this purposes-at least they used to).
He has been repeatedly diagnosed with severe autism.
With continuing intensive speech and physical therapy he has markedly improved.
If you have never seen your beautiful, perfect, bright, outgoing, affectionate, child become autistic as you watch helplessly-well, I hope you never do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471744
I don't know if it will help, but I would be giving him chelation treatments to get the mercury and whatever else is in his body out. It might help, or limit the progression. If you can't afford commercial treatments, then ETDA is available through healthfood sources. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472256
7/23/2008 1:35 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
what about people who had the vaccines but have no effects of it? or mental illness before vaccines? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 461950
It's probably not an all or nothing situation. Maybe all are affected to some degree, and the unlucky few cross the threshold of autism.
In "The Brave New World", they put alcohol in the children's test tubes to retard them to various levels for the work they would be doing. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/23/2008 1:37 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
The doctors push the vaccinations hard. I had a doctor today tell me that she would not OK my daughter to go to pre-school because I wouldn't allow her to be vaccinated this day (number one, we didn't bring her shot records and number two, without knowing exactly what she was due for, I was NOT going to let them jab her willy nilly with A-Z) so the doctor and I exchanged some words, and I guess now I am a hated parent of a patient at my ped clinic because I insist on only one vaccination per visit. When I left the clinic, all the nurses and aides were eyeballing us in contempt. Know what I say? Fuck 'em. I am my child's advocate. I have no problem with certain vaccinations for the kids, but Jeezus, they are little kids! Give them only one at a time and let them recover and keep an eye on their reaction. I told the doctor that I am my child's mother, NOT her and she was not going to dictate to me what was going in my child's body. Period. End. Dot com.
Now, I personally respect the parents who are vehement anti-vax, because I truly believe they are doing what they feel is best for their kids. BUT we cannot ignore the logic and fact that vaccines have saved the lives of countless people, babies and children included. Our kids no longer die in mass from diptheria, polio and HiB. Premature infants have a better chance now due to vaccines like prevnar. Chickenpox is no longer an itchy and painful rite of passage thanks to the varicella vaccine. I had a great aunt I have never met because at age three she died from diptheria. I can only imagine my great grandmother's grief. But I think we need to space these vaccines better, manufacturers need to remove harmful additives and preservatives and parents have every right to ask what is in the vaccines!! I always do, and I get a printout for my record.
Some of the uber crunchy attitudes need to stop about vaccinations. I believe the research that finds no clear link between vaccinations and autism, however, if a child is genetically predisposed to disorders like autism, what really can be done to prevent it either way? I am genetically predisposed to hypertension and guess what? I have it despite being a health nut and fitness fanatic in great physical shape and in otherwise perfect condition. I think a lot of people are looking for something to blame their child's disability on so they don't feel at fault. It's no one's fault. There have been people with disabilities even documented in the Christian's bible when Jesus was healing folks. 3,000 years from now if life is still on Earth, I am sure there will be people with handicaps and disabilities. We see similar things in nature. I think it's best to get them spaced out than not at all, or in quick succession. |
| Dr Dre
User ID: 5755
7/23/2008 1:42 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
Autism is a horrible thing to see your child succumb to, as is late teen onset of schizophrenia. However in both diseases the main causal factor is genetics which may have some environmental triggers. Mercury is no longer used in vaccines and besides that, the amount of mercury we are exposed to daily from the air we breathe to the food we eat is greater than that you'd get in a shot containing thermisol,(mercury is a by product of coal fired power plants which puts hundreds of tons of this toxic metal into our environment each year). [link to www.reuters.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472041
7/23/2008 1:57 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
THIMERISOL, a preservative that is actually a form of MERCURY is the cause of most cases of Autism. When the vaccines were spaced out and not given to very young preemies most kids could handle it and their systems got rid of it. When with the best of intentions children were given several different shots on one day NOONE DID THE MATH. If they had added up the amount of tHIMERISOL that was being given in one day they would have realised that they were POISONING THESE KIDS WITH MERCURY! The symptoms are identical! Thimerisol was used safely for so long that it was GRANDFATHERED IN as a preservative.I don't think the experts that suggested that kids have more vaccines have them earlier and have them together EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE MERCURY! I am willing to bet that most of them didn't have a clue what Thimerisol actually was. In any event WE HAVE A TRAGIC SITUATION IN THIS COUNTRY NOW and it is getting worse as these kids grow and are going to need long term care. The Government knows what is involved and of course is denying everything. It is the families that are being torn apart. Who is going to do the care giving when these kids become unmanagable and their hormones start raging!!!!!! Sadly boys are affected more as estrogen is preotective! This is a TERRIBLE DISASTER THAT HAS AFFECTED A WHOLE GENERATION OF KIDS and someone needs to stand up and tell these parents the truth. Their kids were poisoned by mercury! Quoting: childoflight 472340
In all honestly, and I am trying to be as gentle as possible because I see you are quite passionate about your beliefs...if mercury is what you are concerned about causing autism, then yor child has a better chance of getting autism from eating one wild tuna steak or living for two just days in an area that is heavily industrialized. A lot of things and facts don't add up in these vaccinations are evil rants. |
| childoflight
User ID: 472340
7/23/2008 1:59 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
Autism is a horrible thing to see your child succumb to, as is late teen onset of schizophrenia. However in both diseases the main causal factor is genetics which may have some environmental triggers. Mercury is no longer used in vaccines and besides that, the amount of mercury we are exposed to daily from the air we breathe to the food we eat is greater than that you'd get in a shot containing thermisol,(mercury is a by product of coal fired power plants which puts hundreds of tons of this toxic metal into our environment each year). [ link to www.reuters.com]
Thimerisol is out of most of the shots now but it wasn't during the height of the epidemic and doctors were still using multi-dose vials and I am convinced that the shots from the bottom of the vial very likely contained a huge amoount of mercury. It happened alright and the parents need to be told the truth. It is amazing to me how easily poeple believe someone that has so called authority! It is very sad and it has allowed the wool to be pulled over the eyes of the majority of affected families. if the government says so it must be correct-right? I say wrong wrong and wrong again. If it is going to hit them in the pocket they are going to deny it and they will pay statisticians to play with the numbers and make sure that no connection shows up!It is a sad world that we live in and I feel perfectly qualified to say this because I am a physician and I have seen this sort of thing happening for over 35 years now. The system sadly is mostly broken and corrupt and it is ALWAYS TO DO WITH MONEY! |
| Dr Dre
User ID: 5755
7/23/2008 4:11 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
Thermisol has been out of (especially childhood)vaccines since the earliy 90's, but austism is still on the rise. The "epidemic" is still out there, what is causing it? Read the article I linked toand edify yourself..Plus the Physician in the previous post didn't respond about the mass of environmental mercury we all are exposed to every day. |
| mopar28m 
Luke 16:17
User ID: 472416
7/23/2008 4:18 PM
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The doctors push the vaccinations hard. I had a doctor today tell me that she would not OK my daughter to go to pre-school because I wouldn't allow her to be vaccinated this day (number one, we didn't bring her shot records and number two, without knowing exactly what she was due for, I was NOT going to let them jab her willy nilly with A-Z) so the doctor and I exchanged some words, and I guess now I am a hated parent of a patient at my ped clinic because I insist on only one vaccination per visit. When I left the clinic, all the nurses and aides were eyeballing us in contempt. Know what I say? Fuck 'em. I am my child's advocate. I have no problem with certain vaccinations for the kids, but Jeezus, they are little kids! Give them only one at a time and let them recover and keep an eye on their reaction. I told the doctor that I am my child's mother, NOT her and she was not going to dictate to me what was going in my child's body. Period. End. Dot com.
Now, I personally respect the parents who are vehement anti-vax, because I truly believe they are doing what they feel is best for their kids. BUT we cannot ignore the logic and fact that vaccines have saved the lives of countless people, babies and children included. Our kids no longer die in mass from diptheria, polio and HiB. Premature infants have a better chance now due to vaccines like prevnar. Chickenpox is no longer an itchy and painful rite of passage thanks to the varicella vaccine. I had a great aunt I have never met because at age three she died from diptheria. I can only imagine my great grandmother's grief. But I think we need to space these vaccines better, manufacturers need to remove harmful additives and preservatives and parents have every right to ask what is in the vaccines!! I always do, and I get a printout for my record.
Some of the uber crunchy attitudes need to stop about vaccinations. I believe the research that finds no clear link between vaccinations and autism, however, if a child is genetically predisposed to disorders like autism, what really can be done to prevent it either way? I am genetically predisposed to hypertension and guess what? I have it despite being a health nut and fitness fanatic in great physical shape and in otherwise perfect condition. I think a lot of people are looking for something to blame their child's disability on so they don't feel at fault. It's no one's fault. There have been people with disabilities even documented in the Christian's bible when Jesus was healing folks. 3,000 years from now if life is still on Earth, I am sure there will be people with handicaps and disabilities. We see similar things in nature. I think it's best to get them spaced out than not at all, or in quick succession. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472041
Depending on what state you live in, you can have a religious, philosophical or medical exemption. If you list what you state you live in, I can direct you to the right resource.
Also, if you visit my Cafemom page (link below), I'm a group owner for Mothers against vaccine enforcement & a member of another anti-vaccine group.
Come join us & we'll help you any way we can.
[link to www.godthefather.us]
[link to www.takeholdthetzitzit.com]
[link to www.truthontheweb.org]
[link to www.cafemom.com]
[link to tagged.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to groups.yahoo.com]
[link to video.google.com] |
| Van Helsing.
User ID: 394628
7/23/2008 6:08 PM | | Re: Vaccines cause Autism? | Quote |
Autism is a disorder that goes beyond the boundaries of psychiatry, as do many psychiatric disorders. The shrinks are out of their league with autism as is the case with schizophrenia. That is why the "cure" rate is somewhere approaching ZERO. The psycological community has FAILED autistic children and their parents. Why ?........The overdependence on medication is a clue. The premise is that it's all brain chemistry. But many psychiatric disorders defy that premise. Consider Tourette's Syndrome. What part of the brain rules scatological language, so often a part of that syndrome ? No shrink can adequately answer that. Here's another one; Why, when schizophrenics hear voices are they mostly hyper-critical,threatening and mocking ? Sounds like a profile of demonic beings. A survey of the DSM-III led me to about four dozen parallels between what happens in house hauntings and oppression/possession dynamics. Coincidence ? Not in the experience of deliverance ministry people. They have documented cases where severe retardation was cured by a deliverance session.(cf. The Devil and Karen Kingston). On the other hand we have the case of Annaliese Michel, from which the movie The Exorcism of Emily Rose was scripted. The anthropologist who studied the case concluded that it was the drugs given her by her shrinks that killed her by opening her up to discarnate influence and destroying her will to resist. These two books are eye-openers. And there is Richard Noll's book on possession, Noll is aseasoned clinical psychologist but documents that there are a FEW spiritually enlightebed shrinks(Osjord-Naegli,Adam Crabtree and others who believe in exorcism and deliverance as a legitimate mode of healing things that appear to be psychiatric disorders. ..........If you approach something like Autism with a purely secular belief; you're doomed to be forever at the mercy of the shrink/shamans and their bag of psychtropic nostrums. As a Christian I believe there is grace and healing for all things,including autism and schizophrenia, when the intervention of the Great Physician is sought through deliverance prayer...............Otherwise it's a long,hard,endless road with the secular priesthood and their ineffective therapies. They are OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE in areas like Autism and Schizophrenia. Their pathetic record of failure in this area testifies to that. +++ |
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