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Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???

 
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Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
sell your coat and buy 2 sowards
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Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?
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I turn my cheeks by shaking my ass.
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Ok anyone else?
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?
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it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight.especially when you could call down a warrior angel to lop the fuckers head off lol
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?
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You turn your cheek and fart at them; best defense from strikes!!
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?

I turn my cheeks by shaking my ass.
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puts a 20$ in my mouth lol
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Ok anyone else?
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"turn the other cheek" actually means... wait .. my phone is ringing...




... yes?

... no I dont want 3 pizza pies for the price of ONE!!
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
today's translation-take it in the ass? lol
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
When Jesus gave this sermon, he was talking about how to deal with those in your life, ie. your neighbor.

That means that if your neighbor, your brother strikes you, whether that means you lose face, become insulted, are deeply offended, well, just offer the other cheek as well.
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
it means that jesus was a fraud
his teachings are totally contrary to the original torah that god gave to his people
god said : an eye for an eye
and israel still obey and abides by this rule
jesus came around and changed the rule completely to : turn the other cheak:
think bout this :
if god knows best and gives you a rule, why does he need to change it after 4000 years
and why send someone else to tell us that? why could he not have amended the `rules himself?
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
today's translation-take it in the ass? lol
 Quoting: Amaruca

poor little man.
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?

it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight.especially when you could call down a warrior angel to lop the fuckers head off lol
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What if they keep attacking you? When can a Christian defend himself esp if they know a little martial arts?
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Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?
 Quoting: Mat 5:39 359610



It is about not taking things personally. In other words don't react.

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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
it means that jesus was a fraud
his teachings are totally contrary to the original torah that god gave to his people
god said : an eye for an eye
and israel still obey and abides by this rule
jesus came around and changed the rule completely to : turn the other cheak:
think bout this :
if god knows best and gives you a rule, why does he need to change it after 4000 yearsand why send someone else to tell us that? why could he not have amended the `rules himself?
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The Celestial congress is a bitch. Those Greek democrat gods!!
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
bight the bullet? feel the burn? no pain no gain? walk it out?
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep"
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
it means that jesus was a fraud
his teachings are totally contrary to the original torah that god gave to his people
god said : an eye for an eye
and israel still obey and abides by this rule
jesus came around and changed the rule completely to : turn the other cheak:
think bout this :
if god knows best and gives you a rule, why does he need to change it after 4000 years
and why send someone else to tell us that? why could he not have amended the `rules himself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396132


Don't confuse the rules of men with the wishes and instructions from God. A great deal was mistranslated, misunderstood etc etc...

Lotus
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
When Jesus gave this sermon, he was talking about how to deal with those in your life, ie. your neighbor.

That means that if your neighbor, your brother strikes you, whether that means you lose face, become insulted, are deeply offended, well, just offer the other cheek as well.
 Quoting: Kay


So if someone comes up to a Christian and wants to pick a fight and starts punching him or her, then Christians are not allowed to fight back?
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
The basic message of christianity is an invitation to expand the 'self' to encompass all of humanity - hence the golden rule, 'turning the other cheek' is to choose, not to buy into - someone elses vision of the 'self' - to choose to offer them an alternative way of being - by example. It was never intended I suppose as a suicide pact though.
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
So if someone comes up to a Christian and wants to pick a fight and starts punching him or her, then Christians are not allowed to fight back?
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Correct. However, Jesus gave the Apostles truth, mercy and wisdom and trained them in how to respond and communicate.

Lotus
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So if someone comes up to a Christian and wants to pick a fight and starts punching him or her, then Christians are not allowed to fight back?


Correct. However, Jesus gave the Apostles truth, mercy and wisdom and trained them in how to respond and communicate.

Lotus
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So the Bible doesn't teach self defense? So what's the deal with David and Goliath?
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
it means that jesus was a fraud
his teachings are totally contrary to the original torah that god gave to his people
god said : an eye for an eye
and israel still obey and abides by this rule
jesus came around and changed the rule completely to : turn the other cheak:
think bout this :
if god knows best and gives you a rule, why does he need to change it after 4000 years
and why send someone else to tell us that? why could he not have amended the `rules himself?


Don't confuse the rules of men with the wishes and instructions from God. A great deal was mistranslated, misunderstood etc etc...

Lotus
 Quoting: Lotus Feet

sorry
what is your point?
how do you explain the difference between "an eye for an eye' and "turn the other cheak"
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
So if someone comes up to a Christian and wants to pick a fight and starts punching him or her, then Christians are not allowed to fight back?


Correct. However, Jesus gave the Apostles truth, mercy and wisdom and trained them in how to respond and communicate.

Lotus
 Quoting: Lotus Feet


Also, how do you explain Psalm 144:1. "Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war,And my fingers for battle;"
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It means to not return evil for evil . People who harm others condemn themselves . If you react you are just as bad as they and will be held accountable . Do not become what would twist you .
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Jesus was saying that the "eye for an eye" doctrine was bogus and not of God. So I guess as the bastard commie Chinese slaughter the Tibetan Monks they should love them. Wait ... that can't be right!

Matthew
5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?

it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight.especially when you could call down a warrior angel to lop the fuckers head off lol



What if they keep attacking you? When can a Christian defend himself esp if they know a little martial arts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 359610

In Point, walk away from a fight if you can. Do not be the aggressor either and deliberately escalate things.

However, should they attack...

There is no place within the texts of the bible that states that you cannot defend yourself. However, it is important to use discretion.

Do not attack first and when you retaliate, use only enough force to subjugate the attacker. Then leave it be, forgive and forget.
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?

it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight.especially when you could call down a warrior angel to lop the fuckers head off lol



What if they keep attacking you? When can a Christian defend himself esp if they know a little martial arts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 359610

we can defend ourselves and our family an property.And lots of people in the old testament killed and god used them anyway.In the OT gods prophets could kill the enemy.But in the new testament Jesus said to turn the other cheek a go to the cross even like a lamb to the slaughter.jesus said there is no greater love than to lay down your life for your friends.jesus died a martyr for the world.everyody dont have the guts to do martyrdom.unless your a muslim lol their idea of martyrdom is to kill as many innocent people as you can while commiting suicide lol
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
How to confuse a Christian?

You slap him on both cheeks :)
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Anyone know the context of turning the other cheek when someone strikes you? Does the Bible teach self defense?

it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight.especially when you could call down a warrior angel to lop the fuckers head off lol



What if they keep attacking you? When can a Christian defend himself esp if they know a little martial arts?

In Point, walk away from a fight if you can. Do not be the aggressor either and deliberately escalate things.

However, should they attack...

There is no place within the texts of the bible that states that you cannot defend yourself. However, it is important to use discretion.

Do not attack first and when you retaliate, use only enough force to subjugate the attacker. Then leave it be, forgive and forget.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 291612


Yes I agree to that.
I'm reading another post I found by doing a google search.

It's titled "Who would Jesus Punch?
[link to www.negative99.com]
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How to confuse a Christian?

You slap him on both cheeks :)
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Now that is funny.
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Re: Jesus said to turn the other cheek. What's does that mean???
Jesus was saying that the "eye for an eye" doctrine was bogus and not of God. So I guess as the bastard commie Chinese slaughter the Tibetan Monks they should love them. Wait ... that can't be right!

Matthew
5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
 Quoting: Cheeky 115



Jesus never said that eye for an eye was bogus.

He was illustrating how to go beyond the law to become more forgiving than what was provided for by "the law".

Remember, "the law" was given to a particular country in a particular time period - it was Israel's civil and criminal code. That no longer exists.

The teachings of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount is how do we deal with one another on a personal basis, not how does one country deal with one another. They are two entirely different issues.

On the 'country to country' ideas of Jesus, I would recommend the Book of Revelation, Amos, Jeremiah, Zechariah type passages of the Bible.
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)

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