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A_G1RL User ID: 273050 United States 03/21/2008 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First you have the equinox, then a full moon.... first Sunday after that is Easter. It just so happens that the full moon was really quick this time around. If you really thought Easter was about Jesus,,, well, then no wonder you are confused. Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 397153 Sweden 03/21/2008 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First you have the equinox, then a full moon.... first Sunday after that is Easter. It just so happens that the full moon was really quick this time around. Quoting: A_G1RLIf you really thought Easter was about Jesus,,, well, then no wonder you are confused. That is the way it is determined but it is wrong. Passover takes place 14 days after the spring equinox. Ont he 15th day is the first day of the passover. It is also the day Jesus partook of the last supper. His death was on that same day and His resurrection was on the third day after that. |
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A_G1RL User ID: 273050 United States 03/21/2008 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the way it is determined but it is wrong. Passover takes place 14 days after the spring equinox. Ont he 15th day is the first day of the passover. It is also the day Jesus partook of the last supper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397153His death was on that same day and His resurrection was on the third day after that. Just because it doesn't follow the timeline of that particular story doesn't make it wrong. Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
anonymous coward User ID: 388906 United States 03/21/2008 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Pagan or dark calender has 13 lunar cycles in a year, The solar calender has 12 months, Jesus Christ was crucified around passover, but that does not always jibe with the Pagan celebration of ishtar,fertility goddess also known as eyaster,Germanic Pagan goddess,see Wikipedia;Easter. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 252372 United States 03/21/2008 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First you have the equinox, then a full moon.... first Sunday after that is Easter. It just so happens that the full moon was really quick this time around. Quoting: A_G1RLIf you really thought Easter was about Jesus,,, well, then no wonder you are confused. OK? The equinox was Thursday, 3-20-08. When was/is the full moon? Tonight,Friday 3-21-08? Tomorrow,Saturday 3-22-08? When Jesus had his passover meal, he was arrested, tried, and scourged before he was crucified. How many days after the passover was he crucified? Does the gospel story specify that time frame or do we just know that Jesus was crucified after the passover and that he was crucified on a friday and then taken down from the cross before the sabbath started? |
A_G1RL User ID: 273050 United States 03/21/2008 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Easter was around before the Jesus passover thing happened. It just got adopted. It had absolutely nothing to do with the story of Jesus. Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
anonymous coward User ID: 388906 United States 03/21/2008 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because Jesus was hip to the Pagans? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 395912No, because the Roman catholic church habitualy hi-jacked Christian holidays by telling recent converts that it was ok to hold on to their ancient pagan holidays making the conversion easier to sell and perhaps to injest the Roman agenda as time passed. complex and clever and worthwhile researching for anyone, If youhave a computer,do you ? |
mopar28m User ID: 397146 United States 03/21/2008 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First you have the equinox, then a full moon.... first Sunday after that is Easter. It just so happens that the full moon was really quick this time around. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397153If you really thought Easter was about Jesus,,, well, then no wonder you are confused. That is the way it is determined but it is wrong. Passover takes place 14 days after the spring equinox. Ont he 15th day is the first day of the passover. It is also the day Jesus partook of the last supper. His death was on that same day and His resurrection was on the third day after that. The equinox has nothing to do with when the new year begins according to the bible. The ripened barley & the following new moon determines when the year begins. (Ex. 9:31-33, 12:2) Jesus was put in the tomb as the Passover meals were being eaten that year. He did NOT partake of the Passove that year. He had the "Last Supper" with his disciples the night before the Passover. Anyone who has prepared a Passover meal knows that it is a HUGE meal & takes hours of preparation. That is why the disciples asked where shall we go to prepare the Passover meal. Killing the lamb or goat, skinning it, taken out all the insides, etc. takes the majority of an afternoon & a few hours to cook it. The Passover that year was on a Wednesday, he died as the the last Passover lamb was slain for the Passover meals. He was placed in the tomb about sunset Wednesday. (John) He rose from the dead about sunset Saturday afternoon. Wednesday night Thursday Thursday night Friday Friday night Saturday Read Matt. 5:17-20. Jesus said he would be 3 days & 3 nights in the heart of the earth just as Jonah was 3 days & 3 nights in the belly of the great fish. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 368591 United States 03/21/2008 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since there is no longer any good reason to use the Equinox and the full moon to set the date for Easter, seems like it would be more meaningful to Christians to change the date of Easter to correspond with the Passover and the Bible story. Or would that tend to cause too much hard feeling between Christians and Jews, reminding Christians about the story of Jews killing Jesus at that time of the year? Maybe better to leave it alone and give people a chance to remember the Pagans and their martyrdom at the hands of the Roman Catholic Church. I think I'll go google some information about Easter and see what spring used to mean to the pagans. |
publius109 User ID: 398710 United States 03/24/2008 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone explain to me how Easter is almost a full month BEFORE Passover this year. Jesus supposedly had his passover meal before he was crucified. I'm confused. Because Easter is a celebration and not an anniversary, and the institutions (!) that control the celebration have chosen an algorithm that repeats the pattern of dates only every 5,700,000 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 398728 United Kingdom 03/24/2008 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone explain to me how Easter is almost a full month BEFORE Passover this year. Jesus supposedly had his passover meal before he was crucified. I'm confused. Quoting: publius109 398710Because Easter is a celebration and not an anniversary, and the institutions (!) that control the celebration have chosen an algorithm that repeats the pattern of dates only every 5,700,000 years. It has to do with 2008 being a leap year. [link to www.chabad.org] Thus the Jewish lunar calendar must coordinate with the cycle of the sun and the seasons which are determined by the solar orbit. The problem is that a lunar year, twelve lunar months added together, only adds up to about 354.4 days.4 A solar year, at almost 365.25 days,5 is nearly eleven days longer. If no adjustment is made, Passover would occur eleven days earlier each year, eventually drifting into winter, then fall, summer, and then spring again. The solution is to periodically insert an extra (thirty-day) month into a year, creating a thirteen-month year. Such a year is called a shanah meuberet ("pregnant year") in Hebrew; in English we call it a leap year, and it makes up all the lunar calendar's lost days. It happens about once every three years. The month is added to Adar, the last of the twelve months. On leap years we observe two Adars -- Adar I and Adar II. Thus, the Jewish calendar is both lunar and solar; the months are lunar months while the years are solar years. This is in contrast to the Gregorian calendar, in which the year is a solar year and the months are formed by dividing a year into twelve parts, and is also quite different from the pure lunar calendar observed by certain religions, in which each month is determined by the moon and a year is simply twelve lunar months strung together. |
Elijah nli User ID: 226084 United States 03/24/2008 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has to do with 2008 being a leap year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398728[link to www.chabad.org] Thus the Jewish lunar calendar must coordinate with the cycle of the sun and the seasons which are determined by the solar orbit. The problem is that a lunar year, twelve lunar months added together, only adds up to about 354.4 days.4 A solar year, at almost 365.25 days,5 is nearly eleven days longer. If no adjustment is made, Passover would occur eleven days earlier each year, eventually drifting into winter, then fall, summer, and then spring again. The solution is to periodically insert an extra (thirty-day) month into a year, creating a thirteen-month year. Such a year is called a shanah meuberet ("pregnant year") in Hebrew; in English we call it a leap year, and it makes up all the lunar calendar's lost days. It happens about once every three years. The month is added to Adar, the last of the twelve months. On leap years we observe two Adars -- Adar I and Adar II. Thus, the Jewish calendar is both lunar and solar; the months are lunar months while the years are solar years. This is in contrast to the Gregorian calendar, in which the year is a solar year and the months are formed by dividing a year into twelve parts, and is also quite different from the pure lunar calendar observed by certain religions, in which each month is determined by the moon and a year is simply twelve lunar months strung together. Bingo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 398734 India 03/24/2008 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because Easter is a pagan ritual not the true passover of our Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397153The true passover is on the fourth of April this year. Not easter and also NOT the 20th as the calenders say. Exactly right. Finally, someone that knows when passover really happens. - 14 days after the first day of spring at sundown starts the passover - always, every year. For all you others that don't - read Exodus chapter 12. Then come back and I will explain it to you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 398734 India 03/24/2008 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First you have the equinox, then a full moon.... first Sunday after that is Easter. It just so happens that the full moon was really quick this time around. Quoting: mopar28mIf you really thought Easter was about Jesus,,, well, then no wonder you are confused. That is the way it is determined but it is wrong. Passover takes place 14 days after the spring equinox. Ont he 15th day is the first day of the passover. It is also the day Jesus partook of the last supper. His death was on that same day and His resurrection was on the third day after that. The equinox has nothing to do with when the new year begins according to the bible. The ripened barley & the following new moon determines when the year begins. (Ex. 9:31-33, 12:2) Jesus was put in the tomb as the Passover meals were being eaten that year. He did NOT partake of the Passove that year. He had the "Last Supper" with his disciples the night before the Passover. Anyone who has prepared a Passover meal knows that it is a HUGE meal & takes hours of preparation. That is why the disciples asked where shall we go to prepare the Passover meal. Killing the lamb or goat, skinning it, taken out all the insides, etc. takes the majority of an afternoon & a few hours to cook it. The Passover that year was on a Wednesday, he died as the the last Passover lamb was slain for the Passover meals. He was placed in the tomb about sunset Wednesday. (John) He rose from the dead about sunset Saturday afternoon. Wednesday night Thursday Thursday night Friday Friday night Saturday Read Matt. 5:17-20. Jesus said he would be 3 days & 3 nights in the heart of the earth just as Jonah was 3 days & 3 nights in the belly of the great fish. Mopar you do not know what you are talking about and you are wrong. You really need to study for your self and stop copy/pasting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 395434 United States 03/24/2008 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone explain to me how Easter is almost a full month BEFORE Passover this year. Jesus supposedly had his passover meal before he was crucified. I'm confused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252372We celebrate passover every time we partake of the Lord's Supper ... called Holy communion. In many churches the Passover is celebrated more than once a month. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 398728 United Kingdom 03/24/2008 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because Easter is a pagan ritual not the true passover of our Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398734The true passover is on the fourth of April this year. Not easter and also NOT the 20th as the calenders say. Exactly right. Finally, someone that knows when passover really happens. - 14 days after the first day of spring at sundown starts the passover - always, every year. For all you others that don't - read Exodus chapter 12. Then come back and I will explain it to you. Just reread Exodus chapter 12. Nowhere does it mention the first day of spring. It mentions the 14th day of the first month. The months BEGAN with the sighting of the first sliver (new) moon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 246619 United Kingdom 03/24/2008 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a YouTube clip which explains the whole thing about Easter and Passover: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 398728 United Kingdom 03/24/2008 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's one more: [link to groups.google.com] Karaite Korner Newsletter #323 Aviv Not Found, Thirteenth Month to Begin after Shabbat On Tuesday March 4, Wednesday March 5, and Thursday March 6, 2008 an international team crisscrossed the Land of Israel searching for Aviv Barley. We examined barley from the Negev in the south all the way to the border of Lebanon in the north and from the Jordan Valley in the east to the Coastal Plain in the west. Most of the barley we found, including the barley in the Northern Negev, was no further than the "cotton" stage also referred to as the "flowering" stage. In the Jordan Valley we found small amounts of barley in the "worm" stage, also referred to as the "soft dough" stage. We did not find any barley in the Aviv stage anywhere in Israel and therefore we must wait until after the Thirteenth Month before beginning the new Biblical Year. The Thirteenth Month will begin with the expected sighting of the New Moon from Israel on Saturday night March 8, 2008. The holiday of Chag HaMatzot will run from April 21 at sunset through April 28 at sunset. For the dates of the other biblical appointed times please see: [link to www.karaite-korner.org] This year's Aviv Search was truly an international effort with participants from Israel, the United States, England, and South Africa. The Karaite searchers were joined by adherents of several different faiths and persuasions including members of "Yahweh's Philadelphia Truth Congregation" and "Hoshana Rabbah Messianic Discipleship Resources". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 171915 India 03/24/2008 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because Easter is a pagan ritual not the true passover of our Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398728The true passover is on the fourth of April this year. Not easter and also NOT the 20th as the calenders say. Exactly right. Finally, someone that knows when passover really happens. - 14 days after the first day of spring at sundown starts the passover - always, every year. For all you others that don't - read Exodus chapter 12. Then come back and I will explain it to you. Just reread Exodus chapter 12. Nowhere does it mention the first day of spring. It mentions the 14th day of the first month. The months BEGAN with the sighting of the first sliver (new) moon. Yes the MONTHS did begin with the new moon BUT the FIRST month - the month of Nisan begins at the spring equinox. From there, all other months follows. Nisan: H24 אביב 'âbîyb aw-beeb' From an unused root (meaning to be tender); green, that is a young ear of grain; hence the name of the month Abib or Nisan: - Abib, ear, green ears of corn. Pass'over. The first of the three great annual festivals of the Israelites, celebrated in the month Nisan, (March-April) from the 14th to the 21st. (Strictly speaking the |
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hoot no more/hasheater User ID: 398762 Switzerland 03/24/2008 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since nobody of his thousands and thousands and thousands of supposed "followers" even bothered to jot down the exact date of his supposed death and "rebirth", I am in the camp of those that believe that the dude NEVER existed and was just a roman/jewish/masonic creation to centerpiece their entirely created slave religion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 165302 India 03/24/2008 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since nobody of his thousands and thousands and thousands of supposed "followers" even bothered to jot down the exact date of his supposed death and "rebirth", I am in the camp of those that believe that the dude NEVER existed and was just a roman/jewish/masonic creation to centerpiece their entirely created slave religion. Quoting: hoot no more/hasheater 398762But dear, we do know when He died - He died the first day of the passover and arose three days later. That would be the 15th day of Nisan He died and He arose on the 18th day of Nisan. It is very easy to document when the passover starts and ends seven days later. |