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Anonymous Coward
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3/22/2008 12:08 AM
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Could WWIII be a Cyber/Info War?

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i am sure everyone heard what happened to estonia after they dissed a monument of a WWII soldier. what happened to them was an equivalent of an actual and precise bombing.

in recent commercials, air force claims that pentagon gets attacked 3 million times per day and AF cyber command is the one defending it.

chinese hackers said recently that no system is safe. they can crack any system.

people on the internet discussing various conflicts, conspiracy theories, making up shit, promoting anarchism, - i mean all kinds of shit.

perhaps we could set a date when we go to war and just all talk about our problems and get all of our differences away and bring peace from this confrontation. we must confront our problems to resolve them.

so, lets set a date for a cyber world war 3? is this a crazy idea?

Anonymous Coward
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3/22/2008 12:09 AM

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crazy no. dumb, yes. why start a war on 'them' when 'they' could flip a switch and shut us all down?

Anonymous Coward
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3/22/2008 12:11 AM

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i meant instead of fighting, we should all create a world forum and create threads for all our problems and solve all our problems.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 392356

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3/22/2008 12:13 AM

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havent been at glp long have ya? if it were up to us, and...from what i gather...it is...we're ten times more fucked than we are the previous day. no one here can agree, on anything. solve your own problems within your own power and capability. you cant please them all.

Anonymous Coward
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3/22/2008 12:19 AM

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you see, that's our problem and we must confront it. the fact that we don't agree on shit. i think, once we confront this problem - all human beings would become one and we shall live in peace forever.

CraftZanie
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3/22/2008 1:30 AM

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WW111 will have Cyber components but will not be exclusively a cyber war. Folks have nuclear arsenal and are itching to use it. There is also the standard component, meaning bullets, ships, subs, that whole bit.
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Basically, enemies will be doing their utter best to upchuck on the other guy, and the other will be returning the favor. We already have nuclear weapons, politely known as 'depleted uranium' flying around in Iraq.

dynamite

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397346

Australia
3/22/2008 1:40 AM

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Well, close. It'll most likely be the xbox/ps3 kid's of tomorrow and a bunch of Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle's... [link to en.wikipedia.org] ... coordinated by satellite recon. HLSS

Anonymous Coward
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3/22/2008 1:45 AM

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It will be nuclear.

Anonymous Coward
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3/22/2008 7:13 PM

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I was thinking it would be a food war/financial. Hyper inflate prices where the average joe can barely afford to feed his family and then the Government will say its because of Iran or something stupid that the sheeple will believe. Then commes the nukes and invasion of Iran.

the evolved
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3/22/2008 7:21 PM

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Yeah, we're doing that already. I did Ragnorak a while back, Armageddon last night.

bill shitters Subscriber

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3/22/2008 7:24 PM

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I was thinking it would be a food war/financial. Hyper inflate prices where the average Joe can barely afford to feed his family and then the Government will say its because of Iran or something stupid that the sheeple will believe. Then comes the nukes and invasion of Iran.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 395085

i feel no mater how many nukes you have there be a great many people on the inside to kill the stupid prat that wants to launch one

i thought the ultimate defeat of Germany in ww2 was the fact it was absoloutly broke monetary and spiritually

The retired thread killer

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malu
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3/22/2008 7:34 PM

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google "asymetrical warfare"

this war has already been well underway for years, it includes all the above and the chinese are quite good at it

it doesn't start with a bang and i don't really know if it will end with one?

When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."

Anonymous Coward
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3/22/2008 7:36 PM

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Now we are going to engage in a different type of warfare, back to the horses!!

KNIGHTS! ASSEMBLE!

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Regardless of the diverse written definitions of chivalry, the medieval knightly class was adept at the art of war, trained in fighting in armor, with horses,and lances, swords and shields. Knights were taught to excel in the arms, to show courage, to be gallant, loyal and to swear off cowardice and baseness.[2]

Related to chivalry was the practice of heraldry and its elaborate rules of displaying coats of arms. When not fighting, chivalric knights typically resided in a castle or fortified house, while some knights lived in the courts of kings, dukes and other great lords. The skills of the knight carried over to peacetime activities such as the hunt and tournament.

The tradition of the chivalric "knight in shining armor" can be traced back to the Arabs, with notable pre-Islamic figures like the Bedouin knight Antar The Lion (580 CE). He is believed to be the model of this tradition. [3] Charles Reginald Haines noted traits "such as loyalty, courtesy, munificence...are found in eminent degree among the Arabs." Medieval Spain, which he calls the "cradle of chivalry", could bear that pre-modern title, due to the direct impact of Arab civilization in al-Andalus. "Piety, courtesy, prowess in war, the gift of eloquence, the art of poetry, skill on horseback, dexterity with sword, lance, and bow" was expected of the elite Moorish knight. [4] Richard Francis Burton, when characterizing this strain of thought in the writings of Europe as a whole, maintained "were it not evident that the spiritualising of sexuality by imagination is universal among the highest orders of mankind", he continues, "I should attribute the origins of love to the influences of the Arabs' poetry and chivalry upon European ideas rather than to medieval Christianity." [5] The frequent clashes between the Christians and Muslims preceding the Christian Crusades leave no doubt that orders of the knighthood and the tradition of courtly love were transmitted into Europe by way of the Muslim occupation.

Christianity had a modifying influence on the virtues of chivalry. The Peace and Truce of God in the 10th century was one such example, with limits placed on knights to protect and honor the weaker members of society and also help the church maintain peace. At the same time the church became more tolerant of war in the defense of faith, espousing theories of the just war; and liturgies were introduced which blessed a knight's sword, and a bath of chivalric purification. In the 11th century the concept of a "knight of Christ" (miles Christi) gained currency in France, Spain and Italy.[2] These concepts of "religious chivalry" were further elaborated in the era of the Crusades, with the Crusades themselves often being seen as a chivalrous enterprise.[2] Their ideas of chivalry were also further influenced by Saladin, who was viewed as a chivalrous knight by medieval Christian writers.

The relationship between knights and the nobility varied based on region. In France being dubbed a knight also bestowed noble status. In Germany and the Low Countries, knights and the nobility were distinctly different classes. In England, the relations between knights, nobles and land-owning gentry were complex.

In the later Middle Ages, wealthy merchants strove to adopt chivalric attitudes - the sons of the bourgeoisie were educated at aristocratic courts where they were trained in the manners of the knightly class.[2] This was a democratization of chivalry, leading to a new genre called the courtesy book, which were guides to the behavior of "gentlemen". Thus, the post-medieval gentlemanly code of the value of a man's honor, respect for women, and a concern for those less fortunate, is directly derived from earlier ideals of chivalry and historical forces which created it.[2]

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397759

United Kingdom
3/22/2008 7:39 PM

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cyber wars are great until the power gets cut and then what do you do ... smoke signal war? telephone war?

malu
User ID: 394870

United States
3/22/2008 7:49 PM

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cyber wars are great until the power gets cut and then what do you do ... smoke signal war? telephone war?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397759

well that would be the time to launch everything you had, that did not rely on computers to get there, because the usa for example, would be a sitting duck

When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."

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