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WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?

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OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
United States
3/24/2008 10:10 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

What was your son thinking? I mean, was he in the military before 2003?
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger


Interesting

So, you were compelled to join at some time....what "made" YOU do it?

and yes....he signed in 2000 and hit boot camp the weekend before 9/11.
The Good Reverend Roger
User ID: 330206
United States
3/24/2008 10:12 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

What was your son thinking? I mean, was he in the military before 2003?


Interesting

So, you were compelled to join at some time....what "made" YOU do it?

and yes....he signed in 2000 and hit boot camp the weekend before 9/11.
 Quoting: OneAngryMom


Well, then, he is in the same position I was in.

The trade shows hadn't begun when I enlisted.
HORRIBLE BASTARD.
Blind Messiah
User ID: 398501
Canada
3/24/2008 10:13 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

It will never be okay to say you don't support our troops!

I do not support our President or the lies he told to get us into the war, but I do support our Marines and Soldiers who are putting their lives on hold so they can be controlled by our Government for a five year stretch.

It's not like they go to work at a job and say, I quit.

They are not allowed!

They are not allowed to say no to orders they receive.

These men and women do deserve all of our support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368888



That's funny, and sad.

These people will make your life a living hell someday, when they are "just taking orders" all over your rights.

Some Hispanic gangbanger with a god complex is going to be punching your kids in the face for skateboarding because he can't adjust to civilian life, yet somehow he makes the cut for law enforcement because he is capable of pulling the trigger on some Iraqi's.

I think you will eat these words eventually.

But it doesn't make me feel good to say that, because I'm also going to be getting pulled over by some half wit who couldn't get a McJob, so decided to go be a hero over in Iraq.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397713
United States
3/24/2008 10:15 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

T

To pull out or to stop this war now will only make matters worse.

That is why I did not want us to go to war in the first place - I understood what we were getting ourselves into and I also understand that once war is declared it is difficult to know when to stop making war.
 Quoting: Wraithwynd



It's never too late to stop killing people. Just slip out the back, Jack. Make a new plan, Stan. No need to be coy, Roy, Just get yourself free.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318314
United States
3/24/2008 10:16 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

I'm really sick as hell about the people that come on here and bash the military without knowing the first thing about it.


Read the thread, moron.

Then fuck right off.

Thanks.
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger

I read the thread, shit for brains and feel free to crawl back into the pond scum, from which you came. Ass bandit.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368888
United States
3/24/2008 10:21 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

If you say "no I do not support his war" Then immediately it means you do not support the troops.

I am reasonable about it though - now that we are committed we need to stay and fight it out, then move on to the next middle eastern nation and the next until all are dominated and put in check.

To pull out or to stop this war now will only make matters worse.
 Quoting: Wraithwynd


1. I do NOT support this war, but I do support the troops.

2. I want them home NOW. I don't care what is left behind. The Iraq people can build up their own country again. They have oil that people will buy. They can use that money to pay for rebuilding.

3. We are not the Police of the world. Bush's legacy is he caused the rest of the world to unite against the USA. They all hate us because we are bullies. We should NEVER have gone to war. We should never have been tricked into war with lies.

4. We should pull all of our troops out of other countries. Build our border walls; put troops at border check points.

5. After wall built, there should be a clean up of all the illegal aliens who are currently in our country. They and their children should leave. When their children (who are US citizens) turn 18 years old, they should be allowed back into the country.

6. Aliens should be allowed into the country legally!

Have I ranted enough yet???
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318314
United States
3/24/2008 10:23 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

If you say "no I do not support his war" Then immediately it means you do not support the troops.

I am reasonable about it though - now that we are committed we need to stay and fight it out, then move on to the next middle eastern nation and the next until all are dominated and put in check.

To pull out or to stop this war now will only make matters worse.



1. I do NOT support this war, but I do support the troops.

2. I want them home NOW. I don't care what is left behind. The Iraq people can build up their own country again. They have oil that people will buy. They can use that money to pay for rebuilding.

3. We are not the Police of the world. Bush's legacy is he caused the rest of the world to unite against the USA. They all hate us because we are bullies. We should NEVER have gone to war. We should never have been tricked into war with lies.

4. We should pull all of our troops out of other countries. Build our border walls; put troops at border check points.

5. After wall built, there should be a clean up of all the illegal aliens who are currently in our country. They and their children should leave. When their children (who are US citizens) turn 18 years old, they should be allowed back into the country.

6. Aliens should be allowed into the country legally!

Have I ranted enough yet???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368888

Thanks AC - my sentiments exactly.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368888
United States
3/24/2008 10:26 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

6. Aliens should be allowed into the country legally!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368888


I mean we should not be complacent and ignore the law breakers who are here. They should be deported because they came in illegally.

If a foreigner wants to come here, they need to go through legal channels.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368888
United States
3/24/2008 10:33 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Some Hispanic gangbanger with a god complex is going to be punching your kids in the face for skateboarding because he can't adjust to civilian life, yet somehow he makes the cut for law enforcement because he is capable of pulling the trigger on some Iraqi's.
 Quoting: Blind Messiah


It is true, I have seen appalling behavior by police on video lately.

They are tazer happy. Can't believe they treat every day Joe's like major criminals.

They do go too far!!

Not every police officer is bad. Not every former Marine/Soldier comes back as a bully. I know lots of former Marines/soldiers who are good people and one or two police officers that are good people as well.

:-)
Blind Messiah
User ID: 398501
Canada
3/24/2008 10:37 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

1. I do NOT support this war, but I do support the troops.

2. I want them home NOW. I don't care what is left behind. The Iraq people can build up their own country again. They have oil that people will buy. They can use that money to pay for rebuilding.

3. We are not the Police of the world. Bush's legacy is he caused the rest of the world to unite against the USA. They all hate us because we are bullies. We should NEVER have gone to war. We should never have been tricked into war with lies.

4. We should pull all of our troops out of other countries. Build our border walls; put troops at border check points.

5. After wall built, there should be a clean up of all the illegal aliens who are currently in our country. They and their children should leave. When their children (who are US citizens) turn 18 years old, they should be allowed back into the country.

6. Aliens should be allowed into the country legally!

Have I ranted enough yet???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368888



Every one of them?

Do you know them all, so that you can make this blanket statement?

They are just people, like you and me, not some man-Gods or something you know?

I know what TYPE of people they probably are, based on the choice they have made, and I can honestly say that I would probably not like 99.9% of them.

If they are in the military then I know that:



1. They can't get a job where they don't have to kill people.

- or -

2. They WANT to kill people.

- or -

3. They are not smart enough to realize that the U.S. has not been in an "honest war" since WW 2

- or -

4. They are easily fooled by propaganda.



So they are either an imbecile or a fuckhead killer.

So my CHOICE to not "honor the soldier" is based on educated guess that I would not like the person that would choose that disgusting career path, whether by choice or by need I have the feeling that these people are not the best folks out there.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368888
United States
3/24/2008 10:40 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Thanks AC - my sentiments exactly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318314


Sounds like you have a husband over there. Good luck getting through this.

Hopefully we can get these kids/men/women home soon!

:-)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368888
United States
3/24/2008 10:47 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

1. I do NOT support this war, but I do support the troops.


Every one of them?

Do you know them all, so that you can make this blanket statement?

They are just people, like you and me, not some man-Gods or something you know?

I know what TYPE of people they probably are, based on the choice they have made, and I can honestly say that I would probably not like 99.9% of them.

So my CHOICE to not "honor the soldier" is based on educated guess that I would not like the person that would choose that disgusting career path, whether by choice or by need I have the feeling that these people are not the best folks out there.
 Quoting: Blind Messiah


Yes I support each and every one of them. I also support the police until they go too far.

You have a choice. You have freedom. If we hadn't had soldiers in the old wars, you wouldn't have either.

Our country is rapidly losing our freedoms under this President. I can't wait to get him out of the White House.

Hope to God the new President will call these kids home and end this war. We should never have been there in the first place.

I do respect your views because you have every right to feel the way you do. I also have the right to feel the way I do. Based on our past experiences, we make our own beliefs.

I'm going to call it a night and log out.

:-)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398699
Anonymous Proxy
3/24/2008 10:49 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Just saying...

I don't.

I don't give a crap about them, they scare the crap out of me really...

Is there a bumper sticker that says -

"SUPPORT THE PATRIOTS - LEAVE MINDLESS AUTOMATONS IN IRAQ!!!"

And if I had one would I get beat up?


Prolly would!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393161
People who say"Prolly"are....?Okay I'll start a thread.
RHSC
User ID: 381076
United States
3/24/2008 10:53 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Remember to thank a fallen US soldier for sacrificing his life to give you the ability to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2711


Ya know, that's kinda incorrect, friend. No fallen soldier sacrificed to GIVE us anything. We already had it. We were born with it. They are our unalienable rights.

If the troops were used properly, as defense, they would be fighting to protect and defend the CONSTITUTION from enemies foreign and domestic. Protecting that document, and our Bill of Rights, and everything those two pieces of paper represent meant protecting WE THE PEOPLE from tyranny...both foreign and domestic.

When was the last time an American soldier died in defense of the Constitution?

Those who have died in this round of corporate and NEOCON hegemony were murdered by the tyrannical machinations of those who would rule the world.

They were slaughtered for money and power, and for no other reason. Damn the souls of those who sent them to their deaths.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 286649
United States
3/24/2008 10:53 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

I'm really sick as hell about the people that come on here and bash the military without knowing the first thing about it. You believe what you want to believe and see a video of ONE soldier hurting that puppy and all soldiers are murdering monsters. Yeah, THAT'S logical! For the OP, you are the worst. Why don't you get off your lazy ass, sign up and doing something worthwhile with your life? But you won't, because you have it all figured out, right? And you have it all figured out because you have so much first hand, inside knowledge and experience of what really goes on in the military right? Yeah, right asshole! You know what amazes me? People like you all make people like my husband out to be devils. But the moment, THE FUCKING MOMENT our country would be attacked by terrorists of any kind (be it Al Kaida or Chinese, or Iranian or Russian or whatever), if there were no one here to protect your sorry asses, you would be pissing your pants, eating your words and bemoaning the fact there was no one around to protect your ungrateful lives. You don't support the troops? Fine - don't. But don't make up shit that is not true. That is irresponsible and immature and out and out lies. And what I amusing is how you think you are so tough and talk shit out of the side your mouth. Tell you what Chief, why don't you and your non-supporter friends meet up with the same amount of soldiers and since you are all for freedom of speech, feel free to spout your filth off to the soldiers and see how tough you are then. In the meantime, feel free to kiss my proud, wife of my American soldier's ass!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318314

written by a true mercenary's whore..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398699
Anonymous Proxy
3/24/2008 11:02 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

It is sickening to see you lazy wimps who never served your country bash our troops.Because I served I am qualified to comment.The American soldier is a true patriot.He serves for many reasons,but the main one is that he loves his country and wants to protect it.He does not like or love war and does not want to kill anyone.He goes to boot camp and is trained to kill.It is hard on most I knew to get past that,but most do.It's really killed or be killed.Now in this situation they are trapped.They have seen there world turned upside down.They are in an unwillable and unwinnable situation where the rules of engagement have been changed to include things they know are not right.They are made scapegoats for doing things they were made to do against there will.They are prosecuted for doing what they were ordered to do.It's not the troops fault,they are nothing more than pawns in a sick game.Many of them may save your sorry asses,but I wouldn't blame them if they did'nt.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 381076
United States
3/24/2008 11:08 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

It is sickening to see you lazy wimps who never served your country bash our troops.Because I served I am qualified to comment.The American soldier is a true patriot.He serves for many reasons,but the main one is that he loves his country and wants to protect it.He does not like or love war and does not want to kill anyone.He goes to boot camp and is trained to kill.It is hard on most I knew to get past that,but most do.It's really killed or be killed.Now in this situation they are trapped.They have seen there world turned upside down.They are in an unwillable and unwinnable situation where the rules of engagement have been changed to include things they know are not right.They are made scapegoats for doing things they were made to do against there will.They are prosecuted for doing what they were ordered to do.It's not the troops fault,they are nothing more than pawns in a sick game.Many of them may save your sorry asses,but I wouldn't blame them if they did'nt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398699



The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).


"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385520
Mexico
3/24/2008 11:13 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

if for NO other reason than your own brother, sister, son, daughter, father or mother has NOT been ORDERED to fulfill some military position, you (IMHO) should be thankful enough that it is NOT YOUR CHILD, SIBLING, or PARENT who is "standing in that gap" for YOUR sorry ass who can just sit on this thread and criticize.........STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Haven't you ever heard of being a Conscientious Objector?

I guess we'll never have to worry about a draft as long as the blood-thirsty warriors of the past are still teaching their children about the glories of war and urging them to join the military and make their parents proud.

----

"Haven't you ever heard of being a Conscientious Objector?"
And how many of our kids who are draft age would do this? Would YOU? What measures would YOU take if YOUR son or daughter even FACED the draft? WE DON'T HAVE A DRAFT BECAUSE WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER SYSTEM! I'd wager a bet that better than 90% of these volunteers believed they were doing something to defend this country when they signed up...and they were the first to be disillusioned.
 Quoting: OneAngryMom


Hi Angry Mom. I am not sure whether you are angry or are scared out of your wits. I guess there is a fine line.

I dispute your 90% figure of why they join, not that I know better but because if it was true the armed forces wouldnt need to entice the young to join, in benefits that civilians cant even dream about (no matter how old we are). They wouldnt need to spend billions on advertising, and recruit in highschools, using patriotism but any other hook that works. And I think those that want those instant opportunities are those that have difficulty getting it in the civilian economy. Not everyone who has difficulties joins up. But there is a set of personal circumstances, maybe even personality characteristics, mixed with the right marketing and enticements that determines why one joins voluntarily. And the less requirements to joining the more join up...

On the patriotic side of the coin we can all look at ourselves to see what they think, Because these young people start out just like us. They hear the same news, they are subject to the same education, they come from American families and grow up American. The only difference might be that parents may look at honor and sacrifice in slightly different ways. So when your kid starts being enticed, when he or she starts thinking of the military as an option, especially in times of war, then as a parent we have one shot at detering them. We only have one shot to counter a lifetime of American dreaming, of video de-sensitizing, of Hollywood hero worshiping, of the uncle romanticizing about war around the dinner table. We only have one shot to deter them, and it would be alot easier if we had disputed a lifetime of the enchantment to war that our culture breeds into to all of us...

Their disillusionment is most profound but not simply by what the army or the politicians have told them. No. Their disillusionment reaches far deeper than that,,,
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385520
Mexico
3/24/2008 11:22 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

On the patriotic side of the coin we can all look at ourselves to see what they think, Because these young people start out just like us. They hear the same news, they are subject to the same education, they come from American families and grow up American. The only difference might be that parents may look at honor and sacrifice in slightly different ways. So when your kid starts being enticed, when he or she starts thinking of the military as an option, especially in times of war, then as a parent we have one shot at detering them. We only have one shot to counter a lifetime of American dreaming, of video de-sensitizing, of Hollywood hero worshiping, of the uncle romanticizing about war around the dinner table. We only have one shot to deter them, and it would be alot easier if we had disputed a lifetime of the enchantment to war that our culture breeds into to all of us...

Their disillusionment is most profound but not simply by what the army or the politicians have told them. No. Their disillusionment reaches far deeper than that,,,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385520


Let me re-write this critical sentence (bolded above)...

We only have one shot to deter them, and it would be alot easier if we had disputed at every occasion the enchantment to war that our culture breeds into to all of us over our lifetimes...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385520
Mexico
3/24/2008 11:27 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Prolly would!
----
People who say "Prolly" are....? Okay I'll start a thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398699


Shit! That's the first time I understood what the hell it means. Is it an accent or what?
PaaatRiot101
User ID: 399072
United States
3/24/2008 11:34 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Wow pretty harsh words against our soldiers,
at ease folks>
You all have points and good reasoning,but some points stand out more than others.
Soldiers are supposed to do what The Powers That Be tell them to do> Do you think the men in the terrible
battles of ww1 and ww11 wanted to be there? What if they decided to put down their guns?
It is up to us as citizens to see our govt. doesn't abuse our soldiers.To make war for financial gain and power.
We have failed our soldiers people
not the other way around.
Another good point:
If no soldiers willing to take the risk for pay
THE draft will be back.Guaranteed.
Police officers and firefighters take pay for risks>
Do we say we don't care about their deaths or lives?
They knew what risks they signed up for?And many here put it much crueller.
How many of you even understand most of our "soldiers" over there are KIDS 18, 19, 20,by 21 on third tours.
WHy can't it be understood we can support or troops, and Still be against this totally wrong war they are stuck in.
I love our soldiers DAMMIT!
And that's all I got to say on this topic.
PaaatRiot101
User ID: 399072
United States
3/24/2008 11:40 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Oh and for the record
No unfortunately we cannot just" pull out"
just not feasable> Take too long to explain>all the more reason the troops need our support, love, and prayers.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385520
Mexico
3/24/2008 11:44 PM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Oh and for the record
No unfortunately we cannot just" pull out"
just not feasable> Take too long to explain>all the more reason the troops need our support, love, and prayers.
 Quoting: PaaatRiot101 399072


"too long to explain"

When soldiers are leading us into the streets demanding the end to the war, will you then be able to take the time?
Blind Messiah
User ID: 398501
Canada
3/25/2008 1:02 AM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Ya know, that's kinda incorrect, friend. No fallen soldier sacrificed to GIVE us anything. We already had it. We were born with it. They are our unalienable rights.

If the troops were used properly, as defense, they would be fighting to protect and defend the CONSTITUTION from enemies foreign and domestic. Protecting that document, and our Bill of Rights, and everything those two pieces of paper represent meant protecting WE THE PEOPLE from tyranny...both foreign and domestic.

When was the last time an American soldier died in defense of the Constitution?

Those who have died in this round of corporate and NEOCON hegemony were murdered by the tyrannical machinations of those who would rule the world.

They were slaughtered for money and power, and for no other reason. Damn the souls of those who sent them to their deaths.
 Quoting: RHSC 381076



Ya know what buddy???


I think you're brilliant.


This is a really good post.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352507
Canada
3/25/2008 2:06 AM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Remember to thank a fallen US soldier for sacrificing his life to give you the ability to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2711


Shut the fuck up you dimwit. I'll say whatever the fuck I want. Most of the troops/dupes don't even know what they are fighting for or who the enemy is. There is no such thing as a draft which means it is their fault for enlisting. The troops are invaders and occupiers who are fighting for the neocons and globalists, so no, I do not support the troops. 1 fallen US soldier is one less idiot.

5 Stars OP.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 399088
United States
3/25/2008 2:19 AM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Remember to thank a fallen US soldier for sacrificing his life to give you the ability to say it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2711


So, you're saying that because some poor unwitting soldier was duped into fighting and then dying in a completely senseless, illegal, stupidly insane war that I therefore have freedom of speech?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 399238
United States
3/25/2008 6:40 AM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Oh and for the record
No unfortunately we cannot just" pull out"
just not feasable> Take too long to explain>all the more reason the troops need our support, love, and prayers.


"too long to explain"

When soldiers are leading us into the streets demanding the end to the war, will you then be able to take the time?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385520

Do you know what it was like when we started pulling troops out of nam?

Do you think the people our govt. sent our soldiers in to destroy will just let us leave?
My reference regarding too long to explain is to unimportant uninformed people.Talk to a nam vet who was there in final push to get out.Even bigger weapons and bombs this time.
If you know a way to instantly and safely exit all of our troops , without half of them being blown up upon exiting...
You let me know.
P.s> I certainly know about the" Soldier in the street"
How many have you walked beside? On the way to peace rallies, doctors visites, the vfw hosp., a friends funeral?

I say again we the people let the soldiers down.

When the whole shit hit the fan , and we had a window of opportunity to march on the whitehouse and be heard>
To PROTEST this wrong war, To stop it beefore it began, and keep our soldiers from being used as watchdogs over TPTB pocketbooks PEOPLE DID NOTHING
After we blow up the seat of civilization, after soldiers are deployed and dying> NOW PEOPLE WANT TO STAND UP AND POINT FINGERS. That's not right.
We set up hussein, we set up osama into the powerful positions they had. You may not know all the details, but we should have known enough to protest the war , together, before war started.
Quite frankly I am not responding to the why's wherefores and hows of the war ,( For Money Oil Power, yaeh they really mopped up.)
I am responding to the fact that ignorant people would disrespect our soldiers.
DanG
User ID: 335343
United States
3/25/2008 6:49 AM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

These people will make your life a living hell someday, when they are "just taking orders" all over your rights.

Some Hispanic gangbanger with a god complex is going to be punching your kids in the face for skateboarding because he can't adjust to civilian life, yet somehow he makes the cut for law enforcement because he is capable of pulling the trigger on some Iraqi's.

I think you will eat these words eventually.

But it doesn't make me feel good to say that, because I'm also going to be getting pulled over by some half wit who couldn't get a McJob, so decided to go be a hero over in Iraq.
 Quoting: Blind Messiah


SUPER post !
DanG
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3/25/2008 6:59 AM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Support the troops by ousting every politician that has approved funding for the war. That includes all 3 current top presidential candidates. You want "Change"? Boot the scum out. Make them get real jobs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2711

RON PAUL 2008 !!
ah,clem
User ID: 399243
United States
3/25/2008 7:00 AM
Re: WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OKAY TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS?Quote

Consider that we are not popular in the world.

Take off the blinders and realize that that is not a new concept. We have not been popular for a very long time.

Consider that, when we had many thousands of troops scattered around the world during the Cold War, the CONUS was safe.

Consider that the so-called "peace dividend" after the fall of the Soviet Union resulted in many thousands of those troops leaving deployed locations.

So, after we pulled back from the world, the CONUS was hit.

It's called Forward Defense. It works for me, and it works for us, and if you don't see that, you don't want to.

Consider the situation 10 years on if we just leave.
Do you like heat in your house, food in your pantry, lights?
Does Europe?

Shortsightedness kills.

I'd rather fuck up my enemies house than have him fucking up mine.

Gray haired pony tail wearing boomers need to die. (that doesn't really fit here, but I always like saying it! :) )
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