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What food keeps the longest?

 
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What food keeps the longest?
Besides SPAM
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I don't know. but am interested in learning.
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Honey
Uncracked wheat berries
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Hostess Twinkies have a nuclear half-life of about 10,000 years, I believe.
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dried food and trail mix
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Here's the deal on food storage. First you want to buy foods which you actually like and enjoy eating. If you buy only pinto beans and rice, you will eventually suffer from appetite fatigue. This is a condition where one becomes so sick and tired of eating the same old thing over and over they prefer to not eat. Another good reason for buy foods you like is in case nothing happens, the food will actually get eaten.

What I did during Y2K.

I found out that most all canned foods will stay good upon the shelf for about 7 plus years. Date code all your can and/or jars. Chili out of the can is great, even cold. Buy the single serving size. Jarred spaghetti sauce will also last for at least 7 years. Get yourself a great load of #10 buckets to keep your pasta in. It will last for at least 7 years. Buy canned and jarred fruits, veggies, white chicken breast in a can, tuna, salmon. I could go on and on, but I won't, I think you get the picture. Buy some mood food to life the spirit like chocolate candy bars, etc..

Your storage area must not get too hot or too. If it gets to hot, the cans will start to swell and you will see it. This means a bacteria has grown inside and ruin the contents.

Here are some clicks... there is so much information online about it. It is not hard to do, but it is expensive and time consuming. Get some 55 gal good grade plastic drums and have them ready to fill with upon a minutes notice. You can add little bleach to improve longevity. You can find the correct amount online. It is something like one drop per every 5 gallons, or something like. I personally think you'd use the water up. I made the mistake of stockpiling for a 3 year disaster. I spent way too much money and was one of the very few who was actually ready. I had a 15K generator wired to the house, 36,000 gallons of swimming pool water, a woodstove with 4 plus cord of very dry oak and a chain saw, because I lived in the woods surround by oak trees. I had security and defense. I had deer and other games running through my property. I had Aladdin lamps and a 55 gal drum of oil with extra wicks, etc.. It was a little bit like the movie "A Blast from the Past", but not quite that bad.

In the year 2005 I was still eating the cans of chili and spaghetti, just as good as the day I'd bought it. In fact I am still trying to finish of the very last of the pasta date coded 19980610, which is year, month, day. Had all the computer programmers used this simple eight digit code when writing back in the 70's, 80's and 90's, Y2K would have never been an issue.

Here is the main point. You don't want to have to leave your home for anything. At the same time you need to protect what you've got. Good luck. I do believe a major disaster is upon us.
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Properly stored UNGROUND wheat has a very very long shelf life. It is said that Napolean's adventure into Russia was fueled by 30 year old wheat. Also remember all the biblical passages that talk about graneries, storing food (grains) in good years for bad years etc..

If you are stocking up supplies for your grandchildren to survive on ... unground wheat is probably the key one.
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Here's the deal on food storage. First you want to buy foods which you actually like and enjoy eating. If you buy only pinto beans and rice, you will eventually suffer from appetite fatigue. This is a condition where one becomes so sick and tired of eating the same old thing over and over they prefer to not eat. Another good reason for buy foods you like is in case nothing happens, the food will actually get eaten.

What I did during Y2K.

I found out that most all canned foods will stay good upon the shelf for about 7 plus years. Date code all your can and/or jars. Chili out of the can is great, even cold. Buy the single serving size. Jarred spaghetti sauce will also last for at least 7 years. Get yourself a great load of #10 buckets to keep your pasta in. It will last for at least 7 years. Buy canned and jarred fruits, veggies, white chicken breast in a can, tuna, salmon. I could go on and on, but I won't, I think you get the picture. Buy some mood food to life the spirit like chocolate candy bars, etc..

Your storage area must not get too hot or too. If it gets to hot, the cans will start to swell and you will see it. This means a bacteria has grown inside and ruin the contents.

Here are some clicks... there is so much information online about it. It is not hard to do, but it is expensive and time consuming. Get some 55 gal good grade plastic drums and have them ready to fill with upon a minutes notice. You can add little bleach to improve longevity. You can find the correct amount online. It is something like one drop per every 5 gallons, or something like. I personally think you'd use the water up. I made the mistake of stockpiling for a 3 year disaster. I spent way too much money and was one of the very few who was actually ready. I had a 15K generator wired to the house, 36,000 gallons of swimming pool water, a woodstove with 4 plus cord of very dry oak and a chain saw, because I lived in the woods surround by oak trees. I had security and defense. I had deer and other games running through my property. I had Aladdin lamps and a 55 gal drum of oil with extra wicks, etc.. It was a little bit like the movie "A Blast from the Past", but not quite that bad.

In the year 2005 I was still eating the cans of chili and spaghetti, just as good as the day I'd bought it. In fact I am still trying to finish of the very last of the pasta date coded 19980610, which is year, month, day. Had all the computer programmers used this simple eight digit code when writing back in the 70's, 80's and 90's, Y2K would have never been an issue.

Here is the main point. You don't want to have to leave your home for anything. At the same time you need to protect what you've got. Good luck. I do believe a major disaster is upon us.
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Yes, I agree. Purchase things you enjoy eating anyway and you will use it no matter what happens. Hard candy lasts a very long time and will quench that sweet tooth inexpensively. During the holidays you can get cans at walmart for under $2. The stores still have chili on sale from time to time for 10 for $10 and it does keep for a long time. I purchased a sun oven a few years ago and love using it. If anything I am getting a lot of practice now and it is free to use. In the sumer I don't heat up my house cooking. They are still the same price as they were when I bought it. It really does pay for itself.
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That which is not ate.
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Yep, the hands down winner for sure. Nature knows best.
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Canned, dry beans
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Good call..honey

Beans properly stored

pasta
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I too stocked up for Y2k.

Dried milk was not great but serviceable after 4 years. I dry ice and shrunk wrapped it and some other dry goods.

Pickle buckets were strong well sealed and easy to carry.

I,ll bet a few 5gal. buckets w /dessicant and hard candy would be superb.
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dry stuff

beans rice ect

beef jerkey ect
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Properly stored UNGROUND wheat has a very very long shelf life. It is said that Napolean's adventure into Russia was fueled by 30 year old wheat. Also remember all the biblical passages that talk about graneries, storing food (grains) in good years for bad years etc..

If you are stocking up supplies for your grandchildren to survive on ... unground wheat is probably the key one.
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lol, thats what killed all the first born sons

the first born sons got the lions share of the familys share of stored grains, it was poison and they got sick and died. the ones who didnt get as much werent affected as bad.

wheat gets ergot poison real easily

wheat sucks
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Properly stored UNGROUND wheat has a very very long shelf life. It is said that Napolean's adventure into Russia was fueled by 30 year old wheat. Also remember all the biblical passages that talk about graneries, storing food (grains) in good years for bad years etc..

If you are stocking up supplies for your grandchildren to survive on ... unground wheat is probably the key one.



lol, thats what killed all the first born sons

the first born sons got the lions share of the familys share of stored grains, it was poison and they got sick and died. the ones who didnt get as much werent affected as bad.

wheat gets ergot poison real easily

wheat sucks
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i mean in egypt (bible)
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Bulgur.(Pre cooked durum wheat.) hf
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Falafel

Dried veggie burger mix(home made)

soy products(no GM)

Nuts

Seeds(staple foods)

Vinegars

Wine

Booze

Dried corn

Pasole
Cui Bono?
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Man spends 50 years in tree after row

An Indian octogenarian has reportedly spent half a century living in a tree after a tiff with his wife.

Gayadhar Parida took to staying in a mango tree after a quarrel over a ‘tiny issue’ with his wife 50 years ago, reports Mumbai Mirror
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Husband eats 50-year-old chicken
Beryl and Les Lailey with the 50-year-old tin of chicken - courtesy of MEN Syndication
Beryl and Les Lailey had kept the tin since their wedding
A man celebrated his golden wedding anniversary by eating a 50-year-old tin of chicken.

Les and Beryl Lailey, of Denton, Gtr Manchester, were given the chicken in a hamper on their wedding day in 1956.

The Buxted Chicken tin remained in their kitchen cupboard until the couple marked 50 years together this month.

"We kept it safe, and I always said 'on my 50th wedding anniversary I'm going to eat that chicken' - so I did," said former soldier, Mr Lailey, aged 73.

"When we got married I'd just come out of the Army and we had very little money, so we did our own buffet.

"We got a hamper as a present and included in it was this whole chicken in a tin. We didn't use it and packed it away and kept it."

Tight vacuum

Mr Lailey, a former soldier, said he had not felt ill since eating the chicken.

The Laileys' wedding day
The couple were given the chicken on their wedding day

The pair met at an Irish pub in Hulme, Manchester.

"I had to go back to the Army almost straight after we met, but we kept in touch by writing letters. I came home and we got married," Mr Lailey added.

Prof Eunice Taylor, a food safety expert at the University of Salford, said: "Canned food can last indefinitely if it has been sealed properly, although the normal shelf life is about six months.

"If it's done at high temperatures and under high pressure, then the process should create a tight vacuum.

"If anyone is going to eat old canned food, I would suggest they heat it thoroughly first of all, just in case to be extra safe."
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Anything vacuumed sealed and then irridated will last for years and years and years.

Irridated means bombarded with radiation to kill microorganisms. No this does not mean using uranium or mixing plutonium in the mix - usually its a gamma ray burst which passed through the food and kills the microorganisms. The food is "safe to eat" in less than a minute since the secondary particles created by gamma bombardment move on.

Canned foods have a recommended shelf life of 2 years. It is not uncommon for them to actually last 5 years - and as long as the tin is not compromised they could last even longer.

Most dry foods - really dry - not saturated with fats and oils - like pasta, flours, sugar will last years, if placed in a semi vacuumed with 0 humidity. I have read 5 to 10 years.

"wet" dry foods (foods with oils in them) like chips will perish in a few months since the oils themselves break down (go rancid).

Dry milk (Will be my example):

The vitamins in Dry milk break down are "lost" so to speak - on average you lose about 20% per year. The "sell by date" is usually 1.5 years although considered "good" it has lost about 30% of its vitamin contents (mind the type of vitamin plays a roll on the amount of each type of vitamin).

Although safe to drink in 2 years time, it has lost about 40% of its nutritional value - by 5 years it is down to about 10% which means it may still be good to use - it just will not have the nutritional value it did when fresh.

All foods will have the same issue - yes even honey. Even if dried and irridiated and even if frozen they will lose their nutritional value over time.

Vitamins are just chemicals, those chemicals are not "stable", they lose potency over time.

One can not stop the complex interactions of chemicals in any food. our food comes from living things - cells, and cells are delicate little things that automatically breakdown over time - even without the help of bacteria.

Think free radicals and you get an idea of what you are against.
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Properly stored UNGROUND wheat has a very very long shelf life. It is said that Napolean's adventure into Russia was fueled by 30 year old wheat. Also remember all the biblical passages that talk about graneries, storing food (grains) in good years for bad years etc..

If you are stocking up supplies for your grandchildren to survive on ... unground wheat is probably the key one.
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lol, thats what killed all the first born sons

the first born sons got the lions share of the familys share of stored grains, it was poison and they got sick and died. the ones who didnt get as much werent affected as bad.

wheat gets ergot poison real easily

wheat sucks
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ergot poison is from rye not wheat? do your research! Most dry food and grains that are properly dried will last a very long time! If you cook the grains that you are storing instead of sprouting that you should be fine! What funny to comment on ergot is that you would know if the grain was contaminiated before it was even harvested. you most likely would never find ergot in the grocery, co-op or any other store! That is an ancient illness to those who are not familiar with quality control!
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Home Depot buckets are pretty cheap and are one of the few with a rubber seal for the lid.
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frozen
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Dehydrated!!!!!!!!!!! It is the only long term storage!!!!!!! Use oxygen tabs and seal it. The best is #10 cans but you will need a machine to seal the can. you can use 5 gallon buckets or mylar bags as well. You must seal with oxygen tabs to get the long tern out of your food. No oxygen no oxidation, food is preserved! Oh yeah you must only try to store dehydrated or dry food. NO MOISTURE OF MORE THAN 12%! Rice, beans,pasta, barely, corn etc. Good luck! Get it before prices go any higher!
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Here's the deal on food storage. First you want to buy foods which you actually like and enjoy eating. If you buy only pinto beans and rice, you will eventually suffer from appetite fatigue. This is a condition where one becomes so sick and tired of eating the same old thing over and over they prefer to not eat. Another good reason for buy foods you like is in case nothing happens, the food will actually get eaten.

What I did during Y2K.

I found out that most all canned foods will stay good upon the shelf for about 7 plus years. Date code all your can and/or jars. Chili out of the can is great, even cold. Buy the single serving size. Jarred spaghetti sauce will also last for at least 7 years. Get yourself a great load of #10 buckets to keep your pasta in. It will last for at least 7 years. Buy canned and jarred fruits, veggies, white chicken breast in a can, tuna, salmon. I could go on and on, but I won't, I think you get the picture. Buy some mood food to life the spirit like chocolate candy bars, etc..

Your storage area must not get too hot or too. If it gets to hot, the cans will start to swell and you will see it. This means a bacteria has grown inside and ruin the contents.

Here are some clicks... there is so much information online about it. It is not hard to do, but it is expensive and time consuming. Get some 55 gal good grade plastic drums and have them ready to fill with upon a minutes notice. You can add little bleach to improve longevity. You can find the correct amount online. It is something like one drop per every 5 gallons, or something like. I personally think you'd use the water up. I made the mistake of stockpiling for a 3 year disaster. I spent way too much money and was one of the very few who was actually ready. I had a 15K generator wired to the house, 36,000 gallons of swimming pool water, a woodstove with 4 plus cord of very dry oak and a chain saw, because I lived in the woods surround by oak trees. I had security and defense. I had deer and other games running through my property. I had Aladdin lamps and a 55 gal drum of oil with extra wicks, etc.. It was a little bit like the movie "A Blast from the Past", but not quite that bad.

In the year 2005 I was still eating the cans of chili and spaghetti, just as good as the day I'd bought it. In fact I am still trying to finish of the very last of the pasta date coded 19980610, which is year, month, day. Had all the computer programmers used this simple eight digit code when writing back in the 70's, 80's and 90's, Y2K would have never been an issue.

Here is the main point. You don't want to have to leave your home for anything. At the same time you need to protect what you've got. Good luck. I do believe a major disaster is upon us.
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Yes, I agree. Purchase things you enjoy eating anyway and you will use it no matter what happens. Hard candy lasts a very long time and will quench that sweet tooth inexpensively. During the holidays you can get cans at walmart for under $2. The stores still have chili on sale from time to time for 10 for $10 and it does keep for a long time. I purchased a sun oven a few years ago and love using it. If anything I am getting a lot of practice now and it is free to use. In the sumer I don't heat up my house cooking. They are still the same price as they were when I bought it. It really does pay for itself.
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ergot poison is from rye not wheat? do your research! Most dry food and grains that are properly dried will last a very long time! If you cook the grains that you are storing instead of sprouting that you should be fine! What funny to comment on ergot is that you would know if the grain was contaminiated before it was even harvested. you most likely would never find ergot in the grocery, co-op or any other store! That is an ancient illness to those who are not familiar with quality control!
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rye and related plants, which includes wheat.
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honey... definitely. it never goes bad
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Mre's last pretty long. Some may not consider it food though, lol

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