The SCARIEST Thing I've Ever Heard! We're Doomed!!!!! New Computer Virus!

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What if it wasn't a human programmer that was creating these types of virues? Perhaps "it" has a mind of "its" own!

****UPDATE****


I was reading some white dove thread? While my buddy FINALLY called. I have no idea what time it is in India but its really late here, 11:15pm he called, just got done grilling him with questions. Here's the rundown folks.

This is a new threat, a completely new type of virus that their labs have never seen before. Its (and I quote) "polymorphic" and contains all of the following.

(Below are some of the notes I took while on the phone.)

A rootkit
An internal botnet network
A backdoor
An internal clock? (not sure what this means really)
An internal port scanner
An internal assembly compiler/decompiler
Internal compression algorithms
Multiple unknown (as of yet) object libraries
Internal security of some kind
An advanced AI engine to detect attempts to remove it
It also attacks all known anti-virus programs attempting to disable/remove them.
A Cross platform compiler? (I'm not sure what this is either but he says it allows the program to be executed on Linux and Windows systems)
And as I said, my buddy says its polymorphic, according to him that means the code itself is constantly changing, encrypting itself and its pattern of recognition.

They have no way to make a virus signature yet, and are at a loss for words. I guess this is making its way all the way up the corporate ladder, its big news, but not public yet. He says they have never seen anything like this before, they are calling it a "Super Virus". Sounds fitting to me.

I also asked him how they came across the virus. He said it came from an infected laptop that they brought in to test. But would not say what the source of the laptop was. I'm guessing he knows what the source is but can't tell me. I begged him, pleaded, I knew the GLPers here would think this story was bullshit if I couldn't find out where it came from but he wouldn't tell me, so I'm sorry all...

He said he spent 2 hours sleeping on a cot in the hallway and was taking a break before work again, I feel bad that he didn't even get to go home. They are still going to continue working on this virus and hopefully make sure it doesn't get released into the open.

so I asked him, and on this question he said there was no doubt.
I said "What happens if this thing is released onto the Internet"
he said "What Internet?"
I said "You're joking right? You work on the Internet all day long."
He said "No joke, I literally mean What Internet, as in there won't be an Internet if this thing gets loose. They called the government on this, its about to be classified."

I thought he's joking but no, he's dead serious, I've never heard him sound so nervous. In the background they're calling for him again and he says he has to go reformat some more computers and run some more tests. I asked him to call me back again, or email me, or IM me.


Whew. Glad I got that all out, I'm a little nervous even typing it all, I hope someone else who knows more can shed some light on what I typed down. And no this is not BS, this guy is on the line. He makes more in a month then I do in a year, and McAfee recruited him.

I re-read what I typed and I forgot one thing that I have in my notes here on the second to last page. (Sorry I skipped over this part) My buddy also said this virus has an initial size of less than 200K but grows rapidly as soon as it infects a host computer. He said they took one 200k file off an infected computer and put it onto a "Clean Machine" within a small network lan, and it infected the entire lan within seconds. Firewalls/routers did not have an affect. It uses some kind of exploit.

sounds like a party!!!!!!!!!

Interesting. So, if this gets out, what's to stop it from being just as bad in a few weeks, years?

Very interesting stuff, OP. Thanks for posting. And thanks to the other person for a bit of confirmation.

Are you familiar with the Storm botnet? I was just reading up on that and how it infected many military computers:

"What Storm demonstrated, however, was how a Cyber War operation could quickly build a large botnet. Such a network could be used as a military weapon, for at least a few weeks, until security software removed most of the zombie software. Storm, however, was used mainly for the usual Internet criminal scams. But it could have been used as a weapon, and future networks like Storm might be put to more sinister uses."

[link to geekdeep.blogspot.com]

Could you imagine what an AI computer virus could do? I'd imagine that triggering WWIII would not be out of the question one bit.

Hello Skynet.

AI has been around since the 60s. I'm sure the technology is far more advanced than the public realizes or is informed about.

That's what backups are fore. You can always regress back.
Pretty smart code if it can over ride super users permissions.

Has to figure out the locations of the boot code and modify it as well.

Has to get in the memory, then download its self.

Seems to me they could dissassemble the code - you can write a special program to download portions of the memory that it infected.....Then dissassemble the code to see what it is doing...

Sounds like a challenge!

Everything is assembly langauge eventually.

Guess I've been lucky, to have the knowledge from the late 70's till now dealing with code, hardware designs ect..... the hardest thing ( at least for me) was understanding the cache hit and miss circuits.

They'll figure it out. BTW, if it was so special, they would have sent it here for the experts to work on, not 2nd class India.

You can't tell us the name of the company, but your friend can blab this end of the digital age stuff to you and you to us? Does his company like him to blab about stuff like that to people outside of the company?

Okay then. I'll be in my impenetrable underground bunker for a few days. Stay off the grid dudes.

Why don't you just unplug the infected hardware/s and
destroy it/them?

That's okay. My computer is guarded by a heuristic robot based in Bratislava.

what scares me, and my Super Uber Computer geek friends/engineers (i'm just a lil geek) is that they felt a threat like this was a ways out. everything can be hacked, that's a basic premise of computer technology but this type of intelligent code that is self protecting is surprising.

For all you Macies out there, be careful cause this type of "inteli-virus" no one is really safe.

CATEGORY: Publicity stunt virus alerts
[link to www.vmyths.com]

# Irina virus

# New Ice Age virus

# Lions Den virus

Is this another?

"The hoax alert warned "THERE IS A DANGEROUS VIRUS AT LARGE" and went on to describe how "an unknown group of terrorists" stole "the New Ice Age virus" from their laboratories. The "company" announced it covertly writes software for the U.S. government's information warfare programs, and warned the stolen virus can infect every computer on the Internet.

"We are working around the clock," the publicity stunt continued. "We hope to have the NIA Anti-Virus up and running on February 15, 2001. It will be free and downloadable to the public. EVERY COMPUTER MUST BE EQUIPPED TO STOP THIS VIRUS!" It then provided a link to a website "for details."

New Computer Virus List
[link to www.bsd.org]

OPRAH WINFREY VIRUS: Your 200MB hard drive suddenly shrinks to 80MB, and then slowly expands back to 200MB.

AT&T VIRUS: Every three minutes it tells you what great service you are getting.

MCI VIRUS: Every three minutes it reminds you that you're paying too much for the AT&T virus.

PAUL REVERE VIRUS: This revolutionary virus does not horse around. It warns you of impending hard disk attack---once if by LAN, twice if by C:>.

POLITICALLY CORRECT VIRUS: Never calls itself a "virus", but instead refers to itself as an "electronic microorganism."

RIGHT TO LIFE VIRUS: Won't allow you to delete a file, regardless of how old it is. If you attempt to erase a file, it requires you to first see a counselor about possible alternatives.

ROSS PEROT VIRUS: Activates every component in your system, just before the whole darn thing quits.

MARIO CUOMO VIRUS: It would be a great virus, but it refuses to run.

TED TURNER VIRUS: Colorizes your monochrome monitor.

ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER VIRUS: Terminates and stays resident. It'll be back.

DAN QUAYLE VIRUS #2: Their is sumthing rong wit your komputer, ewe jsut cant figyour out watt!

GOVERNMENT ECONOMIST VIRUS: Nothing works, but all your diagnostic software says everything is fine.

NEW WORLD ORDER VIRUS: Probably harmless, but it makes a lot of people really mad just thinking about it.

FEDERAL BUREAUCRAT VIRUS: Divides your hard disk into hundreds of little units, each of which does practically nothing, but all of which claim to be the most important part of your computer.

GALLUP VIRUS: Sixty percent of the PCs infected will lose 38 percent of their data 14 percent of the time. (plus or minus a 3.5 percent margin of error.)

TERRY RANDALL VIRUS: Prints "Oh no you don't" whenever you choose "Abort" from the "Abort" "Retry" "Fail" message.

TEXAS VIRUS: Makes sure that it's bigger than any other file.

ADAM AND EVE VIRUS: Takes a couple of bytes out of your Apple.

CONGRESSIONAL VIRUS: The computer locks up, screen splits erratically with a message appearing on each half blaming the other side for the problem.

AIRLINE VIRUS: You're in Dallas, but your data is in Singapore.

FREUDIAN VIRUS: Your computer becomes obsessed with marrying its own motherboard.

PBS VIRUS: Your programs stop every few minutes to ask for money.

ELVIS VIRUS: Your computer gets fat, slow and lazy, then self destructs; only to resurface at shopping malls and service stations across rural America.

OLLIE NORTH VIRUS: Causes your printer to become a paper shredder.

NIKE VIRUS: Just does it.

SEARS VIRUS: Your data won't appear unless you buy new cables, power supply and a set of shocks.

JIMMY HOFFA VIRUS: Your programs can never be found again.

CONGRESSIONAL VIRUS #2: Runs every program on the hard drive simultaneously, but doesn't allow the user to accomplish anything.

KEVORKIAN VIRUS: Helps your computer shut down as an act of mercy.

IMELDA MARCOS VIRUS: Sings you a song (slightly off key) on boot up, then subtracts money from your Quicken account and spends it all on expensive shoes it purchases through Prodigy.

STAR TREK VIRUS: Invades your system in places where no virus has gone before.

HEALTH CARE VIRUS: Tests your system for a day, finds nothing wrong, and sends you a bill for $4,500.

GEORGE BUSH VIRUS: It starts by boldly stating, "Read my docs....No new files!" on the screen. It proceeds to fill up all the free space on your hard drive with new files, then blames it on the Congressional Virus.

CLEVELAND INDIANS VIRUS: Makes your 486/50 machine perform like a 286/AT.

LAPD VIRUS: It claims it feels threatened by the other files on your PC and erases them in "self defense".

CHICAGO CUBS VIRUS: Your PC makes frequent mistakes and comes in last in the reviews, but you still love it.

ORAL ROBERTS VIRUS: Claims that if you don't send it a million dollars, it's programmer will take it back. >>

The fix will be the bite.

Antivirus software kind of sucks once you're infected.

I ran into a rootkit that was adding data or something to all of my security software that wouldn't let it load. I had to download ice sword and some other rootkit detector stuff to find it. Also it was important to change the extensions of the .exe files in the .rar's before I extracted them to .bak files, then after extracted make them read-only so that the hldrrr.exe wouldn't fuck with them.

I don't know dogshit about computers, comparatively and was still able to negotiate my way through an episode, I don't think any virus is the end of the world.

Stay away from p2p cracks and stuff, that's where a lot of the bullshit starts.

Keep reading, I reconsidered my decision, changed my mind and told the name of the company. McAfee.

it could be an extraterrestrial virus sent to us by a malevolent race of ETs who want to bring down our infrastructure in order to control us.

The OP is a paid, pathological liar, muckraker and fearmonger. He or she, is NOT YOUR FRIEND !

Smells like bullshit.
Sorry


Kind of like that virus that stops your fridge, eats your cat and fried you budgie.


Would appreciate a more technical explanation from you double degreed super hi-tech uber duber buddy in bangalore before making any more decisions.


I'll reserve the bsflag till you report back....

Wow, this sounds real bad. I'm sure they will crack it, but this will just inspire others. Super-Bugs will be the rage.

OP I actually hope your making this all up. But your postings do ring true for me. Either way thanks and keep us updated.

yah its on page 4, keep reading. I spoke with my buddy late late last night and put all my notes on page 4 marked *** UPDATE ***

This is bogus in my opinion. A sentient computer virus would take gigabytes or terrabytes in size, every computer user would notice the memory hogger and a big virus is hardly distributable.

Now, if you really want to be scared, read about root kits.

This thing has a rootkit. Read my Update on page 4.

You are wrong.
Is can be relatively small and "grow itself" by downloading and extracting the rest.

A phone call is a easy way to make shit up so you don't need proof. Everyone on GLP has "friend" in very high places. My friend is from Nasa and he says that fish people from pulto are going to attack America. Its a buch of BS but you guys believe these nuts.

Well is that what PRO7

found of secrets capabilities of ancient IBM 5100 before the Military takeover...

see:
[link to www.timetravelinstitute.com]

before post your flag...

So tell your friend that this thing is related to IBM 5100, the military people and the doom of computers alas Titor Scenario.

True, however if it downloads gigabytes of components the virus isn't stealthy - the simplest network sniffers will show the spikes. Every virus maker knows that a good virus must be stealthy (thus also as small as possible) to be distributable.