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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 311438 3/28/2008 1:43 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | Fallon Was Right
By BDN Staff
Friday, March 28, 2008 - Bangor Daily News
As the dust settles after the abrupt resignation of Adm. William Fallon as commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East, everyone seems to agree that the Bush administration let him know that it was time to go. But differences remain as to exactly why.
It was clear that his public statements about President Bush’s policies and strategies involving Iran and Iraq rankled the White House and, to some extent, his military superiors. He repeatedly questioned the administration’s scarcely veiled threats of a military strike against Iran unless it halted its program of refining uranium, a process that could lead either to producing nuclear weapons or peaceful nuclear power. He also raised questions about the administration’s insistence on delaying indefinitely any major withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.
Attention focused on an article about the admiral in the current issue of Esquire magazine that seems to have exaggerated and sharpened his views. The headline was "The Man Between War and Peace." The article began: "If, in the dying light of the Bush administration, we go to war with Iran, it’ll all come down to one man," referring to Adm. Fallon. "If we do not go to war with Iran, it’ll come down to the same man."
The article relied heavily on comments the admiral made last fall on the Arab television station Al Jazeera. He said, referring to the many administration statements about Iran, that "this constant drumbeat of conflict is one that strikes me as not helpful, not useful for the people, and I wish we could get moving to things that are more constructive for the region."
President Bush, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in seeming agreement, have all favored diplomacy and described military action against Iran as only a last resort.
But what may have most offended the administration was Adm. Fallon’s further remark, that "I expect that there will be no war, and that is what we ought to be working for." In making that statement, he was questioning the central thrust of the Bush administration’s policy toward Iran: that the United States is determined to go to war if Iran acquires nuclear weapons. Vice President Dick Cheney said last October that "we will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon" and warned of "serious consequences" if it refused to stop enriching uranium. A few days earlier, the president warned that an Iran with nuclear weapons evoked the threat of "World War III."
Much of the Middle East is seething with suspicion that the U.S. is on the verge of a military strike against Iran. And many U.S. military leaders realize that American forces are already stretched thin with the unfinished wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meaningless threats are no match for careful diplomacy.
Mr. Bush should have listened to the wise counsel of Adm. Fallon rather than presiding over the obvious decision to push him out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 226084 3/28/2008 4:29 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 355685 3/28/2008 4:43 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | who has video???? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 382868 3/28/2008 4:52 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | Dempsey to become US Central Command chief
WASHINGTON -- One of the Army's most Iraq-savvy generals is taking charge, at least temporarily, of arguably the most important command in the US military, with responsibility for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In a ceremony Friday at MacDill Air Force Base, Fla., Lt. Gen. Martin Dempsey is to assume command of US Central Command from Navy Adm. William J. Fallon, who announced unexpectedly on March 11 that he was quitting. Fallon cited press reports that he was at odds with President Bush over Iran policy.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who has denied that Fallon was out of step on Iran, and Navy Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, are scheduled to attend the ceremony.
Dempsey, whose field experience in the early stages of his 34-year Army career was largely in Europe, has been deputy commander at Central Command since August 2007. He will serve as the acting commander until Bush chooses a permanent replacement and gets that person confirmed by the Senate.
Fallon was the first Navy officer to head Central Command since it was created in 1983. It typically has been commanded by an Army general — John Abizaid prior to Fallon, and Tommy Franks before Abizaid.
Dempsey takes charge at a particularly sensitive time, not only because of heightened concern about relations with Iran and the uncertain outlook for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also because of the approach of the November elections and the prospect of policy shifts by a new president.
One of Fallon's final acts was to advise Bush and Gates on how to proceed in Iraq after July, when the last of the troop reinforcements that Bush ordered in 2007 are to have returned home. At points during his 13 months in charge at Central Command, Fallon was perceived as being at odds with Army Gen. David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, on how soon to end the troop surge
Dempsey has extensive experience in Iraq. He earned high marks as commander of the 1st Armored Division in Iraq in 2003-2004. For nearly two years prior to taking the Central Command job he served in Baghdad as head of the command that is training and equipping Iraqi security forces.
Bush is not expected to nominate a successor to Fallon until after Petraeus reports to Congress April 8-9 on his assessment of conditions in Iraq and his recommendations for how to proceed.
It is possible that Dempsey could get the job, but there are several other candidates, including Petraeus.
When Gates disclosed Fallon's decision to quit he noted that Dempsey would fill in on an interim basis but named no candidates to be the permanent successor. Gates said Fallon's departure would "leave a hole" but he denied an Esquire magazine report that if Fallon were to leave prematurely it would mean Bush was going to war against Iran. The magazine said Fallon had fallen out of favor with the White House for public comments suggesting that war should not be an option in Iran.
Andrew Bacevich, a professor of international relations at Boston University, said he does not foresee significant changes in US policy toward Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan or Pakistan as a result of Fallon's departure.
"Those who believe that Fallon was the only person preventing the administration from going to war against Iran are wrong, in my view," Bacevich wrote in an e-mail exchange. "When Secretary Gates describes the prospect of such a war as 'ridiculous,' we should take him at his word."
The job of Central Command commander is part war fighter, part strategist and part diplomat. The commander answers to the secretary of defense and is responsible for US military relations with countries stretching from the Horn of Africa, through the Middle East and across Central Asia. That region is at the center of the administration's war on terrorism.
In addition to his years in Iraq, Dempsey headed a US program in Saudi Arabia to modernize the kingdom's National Guard, which is an elite force designed to protect the royal family, from September 2001 to June 2003.
Dempsey graduated from the US Military Academy at West Point and attended the National War College in 1995-1996.
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| Duddy User ID: 345747 3/28/2008 4:54 PM
 | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | YAY! Now the fun starts!!!!!!!!! I already called off work for December 21st, 2012. |
| Goldberry User ID: 402430 3/28/2008 5:02 PM
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YAY! Now the fun starts!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Duddy
President? We're on our way to King George!  Put blinders on to those things that conspire to hold you back, especially the ones in your own head. Guard your good mood. Listen to music every day, joke, and love and read more for fun, especially poetry. -Meryl Streep |
| deepend  User ID: 380410 3/28/2008 5:56 PM
 | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | I sure hope I am wrong here. You have Cheney going to the Middle East to meet with the Saudi's. Possibly to ask permission to enter Iran. And now you have the removal of Admiral Fallon who did not support the entry into Iran. And also, you have an inventory of nukes - and there was a leak a year or two ago about moving some nukes around the country. I just sincerely hate the Bush administration. They seriously upset my tummy.
Let's hope there are some whistle blowers around these here parts. ^^ gravity is a harsh reality. ^^ |
| CanadianVandal User ID: 397762 3/28/2008 6:06 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | He only stepped down because he knew the blockade on the war with Iran would stick. Don't worry we are not going to invade Iran now, there are still blocks.
CV
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You"
:marble78::marble78::marble78: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79640 3/28/2008 6:16 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | Every time I read something like this post, I remind myself:
It doesn't matter whether it is Barack Obama or Hillary. But no matter what, we cannot afford 4 more years of bush's strategy via mccain. IF, and that's a big IF, we even make it to elections without the meglamaniacal ptb getting us into more war. jmho |
| Matrix User ID: 399308 3/28/2008 7:33 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | The surge is working, so its time to surge some more and address the nation(Iran) who is supplying the terrorists and fanatics and make the gains of the surge complete. 
[link to rightweb.irc-online.org]
Leveraging the Surge March 6, 2007
Two weeks ago, Pentagon officials allegedly discussed a strategy to escalate U.S. pressure on Iran with the intention of creating the impression that Washington is ready to go to war.
One of the alleged participants said the mid-February Pentagon meeting revolved around a plan to ratchet up U.S. rhetoric about an Iranian threat and make further military preparations for war in a way that would be reminiscent of what happened prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. (The account was described by a source outside the Pentagon who obtained it directly from the participant.)
If true, the description of Pentagon thinking suggests a strategy that is much more aggressive than the line represented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who announced last Tuesday that the United States would participate in direct talks with Iran in the context of a conference to be convened by the Iraqi government.
Skeptics believe the administration's recent decision to "surge" U.S. military strength in Iraq by at least 22,000 troops is related more to a strategy of increased pressure on Iran than to stabilizing the situation in Baghdad. The surge decision could be seen as putting the U.S. military in a better position to respond to Shiite attacks on U.S troops in retaliation to a possible U.S. strike against Iran.
That would be consistent with other indications that President George W. Bush's "surge" decision was made primarily in the context of an Iran strategy. Immediately after Bush's January 10, 2007 speech announcing the additional troops, NBC's Tim Russert reported that Bush and his top advisers had told a small group of journalists that the United States would not sit down with Iran until the United States had gained "leverage." That was the most direct indication from administration officials that they believed the United States could negotiate successfully with Iran once the administration had altered the bargaining relationship.
In that same briefing for reporters, according to Russert, officials indicated that one administration objective was to achieve a situation in which Washington would not have to "go to Syria and Iran" to "ask for anything." That was probably an indirect reference to the bargaining leverage that Iran was believed to have derived from the widely shared belief that the United States would need Iran's help to stabilize the situation in Iraq.
Bush was apparently convinced that the troop-level increase would convince Iran that the United States would not have to rely on Iranian influence in Iraq to deal with Shiite opposition to the occupation.
But the troop-surge decision was also linked to another aspect of the U.S.-Iran bargaining relationship. It was widely speculated that the vulnerability of the United States to retaliatory attacks in Iraq added to Iran's leverage by restraining the Bush administration from waging a preemptive war against Iran.
The briefing before Bush's January 10 speech also provided a key piece of evidence that the Bush strategy would involve increasing pressure on Iran by framing the issue of U.S. policy in terms of new military threats from Iran to U.S. and allied interests in the Middle East. Russert reported that administration officials had tipped off journalists that Iran would soon be raised as a major issue in what Russert called "a very acute way."
Bush's January speech was followed by a carefully orchestrated campaign of administration statements and leaks alleging official Iranian involvement in providing armor-penetrating weapons to Shiite militias in Iraq. The administration admitted in a briefing in Baghdad aimed at bolstering that charge that it was based on "inference" rather than actual evidence.
To increase the sense of heightened tension with Iran and suggest momentum toward a military confrontation, the administration had already moved an additional carrier task force into the Persian Gulf.
Another move in the increased pressure on Iran, according to the same source outside the Pentagon, is that refueling assets are now being flown into the U.S. base complex at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. "You can't launch air strikes against Iran without refueling assets being there," the source observed.
Senior administration officials have used carefully chosen words in recent weeks, yet Defense Secretary Robert Gates sounded quite straightforward on February 15, when he said, "We are not looking for an excuse to go to war with Iran ... We are not planning a war with Iran." Meanwhile, however, the administration maintains the position that the option of a military strike against Iran remains as its last resort if Iran does not agree to U.S. terms for negotiations.
After the administration failed to produce evidence of Iranian government involvement in exporting weapons to the Shiites, the administration introduced a new line on an alleged Iranian threat during a Baghdad press conference on February 11.
Vice Adm. Patrick Walsh, who is leaving his position as commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, told reporters on February 19 that the Iranian military conducts exercises in the Strait of Hormuz, suggesting that they could use mines to close the strait. Walsh called mines "an offensive terrorist type of weapon."
Iranian officials have always placed their threats to close the Strait of Hormuz explicitly in the context of retaliation for a strike by the United States against Iran.
"The question is not what the Americans are planning," Walsh said, "but what the Iranians are planning." His statement indicates that the United States is designing a new campaign to portray Iran's military posture as threatening to U.S. allies and security in the Middle East.... Quoting: Gareth Porter |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 368888 3/28/2008 9:05 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote |
He only stepped down because he knew the blockade on the war with Iran would stick. Don't worry we are not going to invade Iran now, there are still blocks.
CV
Quoting: CanadianVandal
Thank God! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 402608 3/28/2008 10:07 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote | The Canadian Vandal is right. The war with Iran is off, which is why Fallon is gone.
Fallon was NAVY, in charge of seas, expert in strategy to keep the Gulf strait open for oil, which is the reason he was put in charge of CENTCOM, which is ground forces.
Fallon is out, so Iran is OFF! |
| Fool User ID: 386873 3/28/2008 11:09 PM | | Re: CNN Live: U.S. Central Command Adm. Fallon relinquishes command | Quote |
He only stepped down because he knew the blockade on the war with Iran would stick. Don't worry we are not going to invade Iran now, there are still blocks.
CV
Quoting: CanadianVandal
Brick by brick... :P |
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