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The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With links

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Lotus Feet
User ID: 299977
United Kingdom
3/29/2008 9:11 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

and whats your point Math? as a 'born again christian' is this what your jesus would like to see...you flaming your hatred for his other children? is this the poison you teach your kids? yep, once again after all your bible quotes and holier then thou attitude...your true colors shine through, your venom drips and burns just like your sould will in hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47188



I see no hatred in the OP's post so perhaps the word hate should be defined. There is a great deal of truth in the original post. So pray tell me when did the light of truth become hatred? Why can people not read truth without reacting emotionally and making personal accusations?

Reality can be disturbing to the enlightened mind it is not so.

Challenge moves people beyond their comprehensions when they have the willingness to rise to the challenge. Free speech allows everyone to challenge the beliefs and actions of others just like Jesus did with his sword of truth.

Those that cannot take the heat better get out of the kitchen because Jesus is behind the truth movement and promised to send his angels in the end times of the end of the age to explain the difference between truth and falsehood. He predicted that the truth would come into the light of day and when it did it would set man free from captivity.

Jesus is well aware that there is a battle going on for your souls.

Do you wish to be a slave for Allah or a friend of God?

God allows everyone to be who they wish to be that is why you were given the birthright of free will.

Choose wisely.

Lotus
Write your Sonnet to God and let him hear your voice sing to him. Engage now with the return.

"Justice and the law can be a very thin line to walk and it takes great wisdom to ensure that the children are defended from injurious realities at the same time as allowing them the freedom to be." A whole heart can feel the sorrow of humanity. She hears the sound of the cries of the world and our heavenly Father responds to it in his greatness and glory."

"The unity of light foot are those that tread CARE FULLY along the path. The footprint on the earth is lightness itself." It is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:-21 Wisdom is proved right by her actions."Matthew 11:19

MESSAGES FROM GOD.
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com]
COVENANT FOR THE CHILDREN
[link to spiritualindependence.blogspot.com]
CHRIST VISION OF PEACE
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402861
United Kingdom
3/29/2008 9:31 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

Can anyone compile a list of things they do like?
jlazarus
User ID: 348904
United States
3/29/2008 9:47 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

When pondering the list things that are offensive to Islam, I am briefly reminded of Christianity's own storied past.

Interesting to note that Muhammad was appointed as God's messenger about 1400 some odd years ago. So from that sense, Islam is about 600 years younger than Christianity.

Look back at Christianity 600 years ago...Compare to Islam today...many similarities are there not?

I think there is an "adolescent" period for religions :) Perhaps a reformation within the body of Islam is an inevitable course, and some of these extremists, much like the Church of the 13th and 14th centuries, see the writing on the wall so to speak, and are struggling with all their might to retain 'power over their flocks' - but if history is a good teacher, methinks that the next 100-200 years will see great reformations taking place.

We can only hope.
I will accept any rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. ~ Robert Heinlein
Lotus Feet
User ID: 299977
United Kingdom
3/29/2008 9:58 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

Can anyone compile a list of things they do like?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 402861


Muslims are like other people in the world there is good and less good in all walks of life. My life as been blessed by the good and the less good. The good that entered my life have great humility and honour the sacredness of others. They can also be good listeners. The indoctrinated and brainwashed do not listen at all due to being entrenched in a belief system and you can find that in all religions. Muslims are far more defensive about their religion than others and this is because they know in their heart something is not right. Truth does not need defending if it is right. A Muslim sister told me a few years ago that many Muslims are getting involved in spirituality and the more they do the more spirituality is taking precedence over their religion. Muslims have suffered enough and many do need help to break free from oppression. There are also many Muslim peace makers, there is a lot of sincerity as well and many are trying to help their brothers and sisters who cannot see the light.

Heart of a Muslim



Lotus
Write your Sonnet to God and let him hear your voice sing to him. Engage now with the return.

"Justice and the law can be a very thin line to walk and it takes great wisdom to ensure that the children are defended from injurious realities at the same time as allowing them the freedom to be." A whole heart can feel the sorrow of humanity. She hears the sound of the cries of the world and our heavenly Father responds to it in his greatness and glory."

"The unity of light foot are those that tread CARE FULLY along the path. The footprint on the earth is lightness itself." It is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:-21 Wisdom is proved right by her actions."Matthew 11:19

MESSAGES FROM GOD.
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com]
COVENANT FOR THE CHILDREN
[link to spiritualindependence.blogspot.com]
CHRIST VISION OF PEACE
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380882
Finland
3/29/2008 10:11 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

the americans have been conditioned with homos, bimbos and jackasses for a long time...

and now they have twice elected dubya.

bush-clinton-bush-clinton......
Lotus Feet
User ID: 299977
United Kingdom
3/29/2008 10:12 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

When pondering the list things that are offensive to Islam, I am briefly reminded of Christianity's own storied past. Interesting to note that Muhammad was appointed as God's messenger about 1400 some odd years ago. So from that sense, Islam is about 600 years younger than Christianity. Look back at Christianity 600 years ago...Compare to Islam today...many similarities are there not? I think there is an "adolescent" period for religions :) Perhaps a reformation within the body of Islam is an inevitable course, and some of these extremists, much like the Church of the 13th and 14th centuries, see the writing on the wall so to speak, and are struggling with all their might to retain 'power over their flocks' - but if history is a good teacher, methinks that the next 100-200 years will see great reformations taking place.

We can only hope.
 Quoting: jlazarus


Yes there are many pushing for change/reformation especially in the UK and USA where they have more freedom of speech then they had in the middle east. Many Muslim scholars have tried to reform down the ages but were murdered, imprisoned etc. Even now bloggers in Egypt are being imprisoned due to wishing to speak the light of truth. In many ways Muslims have had to come to the West to ensure that positive change takes place.

Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow

This is a video about an event in July 2006 that brought together emerging young Muslim Leaders from 17 different countries (Europe and North America) to discuss major issues such as integration.


Some are asking the questions and redefining who they are.



Lotus
Write your Sonnet to God and let him hear your voice sing to him. Engage now with the return.

"Justice and the law can be a very thin line to walk and it takes great wisdom to ensure that the children are defended from injurious realities at the same time as allowing them the freedom to be." A whole heart can feel the sorrow of humanity. She hears the sound of the cries of the world and our heavenly Father responds to it in his greatness and glory."

"The unity of light foot are those that tread CARE FULLY along the path. The footprint on the earth is lightness itself." It is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:-21 Wisdom is proved right by her actions."Matthew 11:19

MESSAGES FROM GOD.
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com]
COVENANT FOR THE CHILDREN
[link to spiritualindependence.blogspot.com]
CHRIST VISION OF PEACE
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402888
Australia
3/29/2008 10:16 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

Wonderful!!!

A list promoting religious harmony...

HLSS
femto
User ID: 402785
United Kingdom
3/29/2008 10:22 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

Ha ha ha Sireen-Reborn,

remind me of my ex...always looking for a reason to be offended.

Sheesh!
 Quoting: Sireen-Reborn


You just put a brand new picture of some people I know/met in my life.

Thanks.

xxx
Lotus Feet
User ID: 299977
United Kingdom
3/29/2008 10:24 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

Secular Islam

Secular Islam Summit - St. Petersburg Declaration



CAIR in the US refuse to sign the St Petersburg Declaration presented at this summit.

The above conference was the most progressive conference to date. The members of this conference defend the human rights of the unbelievers and some have become unbelievers themselves.

The conference was held over two days but is well worth watching all the videos. They defend the universal human rights for all.



[link to www.secularislam.org]

Lotus
Write your Sonnet to God and let him hear your voice sing to him. Engage now with the return.

"Justice and the law can be a very thin line to walk and it takes great wisdom to ensure that the children are defended from injurious realities at the same time as allowing them the freedom to be." A whole heart can feel the sorrow of humanity. She hears the sound of the cries of the world and our heavenly Father responds to it in his greatness and glory."

"The unity of light foot are those that tread CARE FULLY along the path. The footprint on the earth is lightness itself." It is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:-21 Wisdom is proved right by her actions."Matthew 11:19

MESSAGES FROM GOD.
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com]
COVENANT FOR THE CHILDREN
[link to spiritualindependence.blogspot.com]
CHRIST VISION OF PEACE
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
DALE GRIBBLE
User ID: 394011
United States
3/29/2008 10:35 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

Deport them to Mexico, that should work!
Lotus Feet
User ID: 299977
United Kingdom
3/29/2008 10:48 AM
Re: The List of Things That Offend Muslims:With linksQuote

For those that cannot view videos here is a transcript of the St Petersberg Declaration that CAIR will not sign.

Released by the delegates to the Secular Islam Summit, St. Petersburg, Florida on March 5, 2007

We are secular Muslims, and secular persons of Muslim societies. We are believers, doubters, and unbelievers, brought together by a great struggle, not between the West and Islam, but between the free and the unfree.

We affirm the inviolable freedom of the individual conscience. We believe in the equality of all human persons. We insist upon the separation of religion from state and the observance of universal human rights.

We find traditions of liberty, rationality, and tolerance in the rich histories of pre-Islamic and Islamic societies. These values do not belong to the West or the East; they are the common moral heritage of humankind.

We see no colonialism, racism, or so-called “Islamaphobia” in submitting Islamic practices to criticism or condemnation when they violate human reason or rights.

We call on the governments of the world to reject Sharia law, fatwa courts, clerical rule, and state-sanctioned religion in all their forms; oppose all penalties for blasphemy and apostasy, in accordance with Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human rights; eliminate practices, such as female circumcision, honor killing, forced veiling, and forced marriage, that further the oppression of women; protect sexual and gender minorities from persecution and violence; reform sectarian education that teaches intolerance and bigotry towards non-Muslims; and foster an open public sphere in which all matters may be discussed without coercion or intimidation.


We demand the release of Islam from its captivity to the totalitarian ambitions of power-hungry men and the rigid strictures of orthodoxy.

We enjoin academics and thinkers everywhere to embark on a fearless examination of the origins and sources of Islam, and to promulgate the ideals of free scientific and spiritual inquiry through cross-cultural translation, publishing, and the mass media.

We say to Muslim believers: there is a noble future for Islam as a personal faith, not a political doctrine; to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baha’is, and all members of non-Muslim faith communities: we stand with you as free and equal citizens; and to nonbelievers: we defend your unqualified liberty to question and dissent.

Before any of us is a member of the Umma, the Body of Christ, or the Chosen People, we are all members of the community of conscience, the people who must choose for themselves.


Endorsed by:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Magdi Allam
Mithal Al-Alusi
Shaker Al-Nabulsi
Nonie Darwish
Afshin Ellian
Tawfik Hamid
Shahriar Kabir
Hasan Mahmud
Wafa Sultan
Amir Taheri
Ibn Warraq
Manda Zand Ervin
Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

[link to secularislam.org]

Lotus
Write your Sonnet to God and let him hear your voice sing to him. Engage now with the return.

"Justice and the law can be a very thin line to walk and it takes great wisdom to ensure that the children are defended from injurious realities at the same time as allowing them the freedom to be." A whole heart can feel the sorrow of humanity. She hears the sound of the cries of the world and our heavenly Father responds to it in his greatness and glory."

"The unity of light foot are those that tread CARE FULLY along the path. The footprint on the earth is lightness itself." It is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:-21 Wisdom is proved right by her actions."Matthew 11:19

MESSAGES FROM GOD.
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com]
COVENANT FOR THE CHILDREN
[link to spiritualindependence.blogspot.com]
CHRIST VISION OF PEACE
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
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