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Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!

 
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Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Rapturephobes in here regulary attack the rapture which makes preaching this even more important for the sake of those left behind, here is an excellent teaching with verses i rarely hear brought up in this context:



A good overview for the uninitiated i have posted before:

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Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
In my opinion,

in my growing experience from a great many repeated observations here and elsewhere,

those that hate The Rapture

and so quickly and so thoroughly condemn all those that believe in the Rapture,

are not True believers in Jesus Christ looking for the promise of His coming

but, quite the contrary,

their peculiarly venomous hostility and attack against the Rapture and those that believe it

are evidence of its Truthfulness.



Rapture-haters are supposedly believers in Jesus Christ

that revile and condemn other believers in Jesus Christ

because those believers in Jesus Christ

believe and hope they will see Jesus Christ just a few years earlier

than what the Rapture-haters supposedly believe

and therefore condemn them as the worst of all evil...
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So if you believe you will meet Jesus when the Rapture-hater believes he will see Jesus

you are good and true like the Rapture-hater,

but if you believe you will meet Jesus just a little bit earlier

then you are the most despicable rotten evil satanic filth imaginable and worth every condemnation and personal insult.


Now how could that possibly be? It simply is not true.

Those that believe the Rapture is true do not condemn those that do not believe that the Rapture is true.

Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture s true.

Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.

The show nothing but contempt for those that do.

Draw your own conclusion.
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Satan and his unmentionable children hate God's children. Jesus also said " for if they hate Me they shall hate you also...".
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Because you don't understand that you will watch Antichrist Windsor come to the stage.

Because you don't understand that God ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS sends messengers to warn before destruction. To do so would be against His very nature.

You will watch and hear warnings about Windsor. Things will get Satanically bad.
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Same reason why the Anomaly is hated s much.
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Thank you for your input, my dear family!

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And if your not yet saved, Romans 10:9-10 is how, its important you do it now because:

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Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Same reason why the Anomaly is hated s much.
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Yep because I preach against Antichrist Windsor.
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Because it's BS, just like the rest of christinsanity?
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Because it's BS, just like the rest of christinsanity?
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We know it is true and you do aswell if youre honest, but lets hear your excuse for why you reject the truth. Give us your top reasons, for example top 3. The floor is yours.
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Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Same reason why the Anomaly is hated s much.
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I'm all aboard for Romans 8.
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Because the Raptured get to go immediately to heaven and most Christians don’t believe anyone gets to heaven or hell until after Jesus returns to resurrect the dead bodies from the grave and so that’s not fair.
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Not biblical.
Made up by the snake oil salesman Schofield. Believe whatever you want, but know in your heart it is fake.
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Not biblical.
Made up by the snake oil salesman Schofield. Believe whatever you want, but know in your heart it is fake.
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lazyskate Rubbish, the Rapture was taught by Jesus Christ. You cannot treat whole sections of the Bible as if they do not exist, just to suit your own fancies, this is reckless and misleading behavior,

takeheed blackcat For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

kitty WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Because it's BS, just like the rest of christinsanity?
 Quoting: Rodulf 80898669


We know it is true and you do aswell if youre honest, but lets hear your excuse for why you reject the truth. Give us your top reasons, for example top 3. The floor is yours.
 Quoting: Just†Me


Show me the word rapture in the bible for starters.
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Satan and his unmentionable children hate God's children. Jesus also said " for if they hate Me they shall hate you also...".
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YES !!
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Because it's BS, just like the rest of christinsanity?
 Quoting: Rodulf 80898669


We know it is true and you do aswell if youre honest, but lets hear your excuse for why you reject the truth. Give us your top reasons, for example top 3. The floor is yours.
 Quoting: Just†Me


Show me the word rapture in the bible for starters.
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You need to crack a bible and actually read it.
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Because it's BS, just like the rest of christinsanity?
 Quoting: Rodulf 80898669


We know it is true and you do aswell if youre honest, but lets hear your excuse for why you reject the truth. Give us your top reasons, for example top 3. The floor is yours.
 Quoting: Just†Me


Show me the word rapture in the bible for starters.
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From harpazo: [link to www.biblestudytools.com (secure)]

Or rapturo in latin: [link to bible.org (secure)]
Just†Me recomends:
Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
The bible for download: [link to rcbi-resources.yolasite.com]
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
Not biblical.
Made up by the snake oil salesman Schofield. Believe whatever you want, but know in your heart it is fake.
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The rapture was taught by the church fathers, so this is not new but ancient teachings:



...and theres more in texts not yet translated into english:


Just†Me recomends:
Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
The bible for download: [link to rcbi-resources.yolasite.com]
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ROFL! The demons always try to blame Darby for the great snatching away.
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
The serpent's seed is on overtime today.
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Not biblical.
Made up by the snake oil salesman Schofield. Believe whatever you want, but know in your heart it is fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29391536


The rapture was taught by the church fathers, so this is not new but ancient teachings:



...and theres more in texts not yet translated into english:


 Quoting: Just†Me


Tommy Ice lol.Any kin to Vanilla?
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Rubbish, the Rapture was taught by Jesus Christ..
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No it wasn't.

.....

Thread: After the Tribulation Documentary - NO Pre-Trib Rapture

1. No scripture states that Believers / "the Church" will miss Tribulation.

2. No scripture states that Jesus returns BEFORE "the day of the Lord".

3. No scripture states that Jesus returns MORE than once.

4. No scripture states that Jesus takes "the Church" to heaven for any period of time.

5. No scripture states that Tribulation only happens to the Hebrews.

Jesus clearly states that it will encompase the entire Earth.

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The pre-trib rapture is based on this passage by Paul.

1 Thessalonians 4

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


.........

Compare what Paul says to what Jesus says. It's the SAME evevent - the Second Coming.

Key phrases.

0. "we which are alive and remain"

It's clear that Paul expected to go THROUGH the Tribulation. He uses the word 'We' instead of 'those'. This is significant as it shows he was NOT epcecting to be 'taken away' BEFORE the Tribulation happened.

Those are Believers - including Elect - that weren't killed prior to Jesus' return. Remain from what? The Tribulation. These are the same that Jesus states 'he who overcomes' etc...

1. "THE coming of the Lord". Jesus returns once. No scripture states otherwise.

2. "trump of God". This is the "last trump" that Paul speaks of in 1 Corinthians 15:52. For further reference, see the Seven Trumpets of Revelation. This is echoed in Matthew 24.

3. "caught up together". This is the First Resurrection mentioned in Revelation.

4. "in the clouds". Jesus used the SAME phrase describing His Return.

5. "alive and remain" also matches the words "endureth to the end" (Matthew 10:22) "endure unto the end" (Mark 13:13) and "overcometh" (Revelation 2:26)

6. Jesus returns "after the Tribulation".

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation

of those days shall the sun be darkened,
and the moon shall not give her light,
and the stars shall fall from heaven,
and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:


7. Tribulation is not wrath. Scripture proves this.
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Years ago before the internet. I read the Bible and learned myself about Jesus coming to catch born again Christians up. Didn't know the word Rapture till years later. The wrath of God will not be on His people. We are the body of Christ. Forgiven with His blood. No reason for us to be apart of the wrath of God. Read the Bible it's good for your soul.
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Not biblical.
Made up by the snake oil salesman Schofield. Believe whatever you want, but know in your heart it is fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29391536


:lazyskate: Rubbish, the Rapture was taught by Jesus Christ. You cannot treat whole sections of the Bible as if they do not exist, just to suit your own fancies, this is reckless and misleading behavior,

:takeheed: :blackcat: For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

kitty WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Judethz


Titus 3:10-11
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
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Rubbish, the Rapture was taught by Jesus Christ..
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No it wasn't.......................................................​.........................rant
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shelly Hi FHL (C) I know it's really you trying to spam your rubbish down everyone's throats. For those of you who would like to know more this is a good video that should answer many of your questions about the Rapture. This world is on the verge of many great changes which will plunge those who are still here into a living nightmare. You have still been blessed with a little time so don't waste it. And remember that there is no guarantee that you will get a chance to be saved as a Tribulation Saint. A nuclear bomb or some other means can end your life in an instant and leave you facing an eternity in hell.

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Cuz it’s gay
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All Thomas Ice proved was that early churck leaders were emphasizing that 'Christ's return was immenent'.

Where did they teach that the 'church' would miss the Tribulation?

That came later.

Regardless - it ignores what Jesus said....

...'AFTER the Tribulation'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward The rapture was taught by the church fathers, so this is not new but ancient teachings:


Youre not going in the rapture since you deny Christ is God in flesh as the bible teach in for example John 14:9, Colossians 2:9, 1 Timothy 3:16 etc and when i point out prophecies aswell like Isaiah 9:6 which says the child that will be born will be called MIGHTY GOD and EVERLASTING FATHER, you claim he will be called that IN A WRONG WAY.....

lmao

Youre quite a comedian, and Christs return is not imminent if you have time to wait to get your head chopped off for denying the antichrist etc, so the imminency of the return of Christ is ofcourse the same as the rapture since the two are the same.

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Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
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Re: Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!
The tribulation is not wrath. Not a salvation issue either. If “we” are wrong, then it is what it is. If pre tribbers are wrong, they will be more likely to fall away. That’s what post tribbers are trying to communicate. Scripture says after the tribulation. Not before.
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