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Change your music to universal 432Hz

 
Anonymous Coward
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10/12/2008 08:55 AM
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sounds terrible
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sounds terrible
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I disagree,but if your the high strung type who likes music thats tight and piercing well then 440hz is for you.
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11/05/2008 01:00 PM
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Any chance you could use audacity at higher bit rates than 128? It exports but I want to maintain the 256.

Thanks :)
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11/12/2008 06:11 AM
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I just converted Winter by Tori Amos as a test following the instructions provided. It seems to me that the conversion is not absolutely perfect.. However, it's still an improvement.
I play the original (440) version and the converted (432) version multiple times and without a doubt, distortion is reduced and sound quality is improved. But most impotantly, it feels far more natural.
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11/12/2008 09:51 AM
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I just converted Winter by Tori Amos as a test following the instructions provided. It seems to me that the conversion is not absolutely perfect.. However, it's still an improvement.
I play the original (440) version and the converted (432) version multiple times and without a doubt, distortion is reduced and sound quality is improved. But most impotantly, it feels far more natural.
 Quoting: Grant 549253

Grant, could any of you who figured out how to follow the directions to convert and changed music,possibly upload a youtube video of a song before and after?Could youcopy this Winter song, your new version?
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11/12/2008 08:20 PM
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Re: Change your music to universal 432Hz
gotbop

*sigh* another 2 minutes of my life that i will never get back...
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My sentiments exactly!

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11/12/2008 08:49 PM
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Jesus Fucking Christ


It's ....

















Will Nilkes :)
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11/12/2008 09:18 PM
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Re: Change your music to universal 432Hz
432 is indeed the natual resonant frequency.
a-432......

is it "THE ONLY" resonant frequency(and its octaves of course)
that can natually produce the formula Phi, and follow the natual formulas of the pythagorian musical spiral,the golden mean, the fibonacci sequence.
(cells,dna,galaxies all follow these natual laws.)
and waves will also double natually as well.

in order to create balanced wave signatures , you first need
a perfect frame of reference.

that reference is 432.

www.myspace.com/bobbylavignesproject432d

and the OP is also correct about the nazi connection as well,
but it goes so much deeper.

at least as far back as ancient greece.
Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato ,

so spread the word to all music types.
so we can help bring some balance to this otherwise
un-balanced world.
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i dont understand this thread

when did the music change, and has it changed back?
:ura:

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I just converted Winter by Tori Amos as a test following the instructions provided. It seems to me that the conversion is not absolutely perfect.. However, it's still an improvement.
I play the original (440) version and the converted (432) version multiple times and without a doubt, distortion is reduced and sound quality is improved. But most impotantly, it feels far more natural.

Grant, could any of you who figured out how to follow the directions to convert and changed music,possibly upload a youtube video of a song before and after?Could youcopy this Winter song, your new version?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 540582



Sure, I'll post here once I've got something put together... Just hang on to the weekend though if you can, I've never uploaded anything to the web before... no worries, I can learn it on the fly, I'm sure it's easy as. I'll probably upload something to youtube as I reakon that will be pretty basic.
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I just converted Winter by Tori Amos as a test following the instructions provided. It seems to me that the conversion is not absolutely perfect.. However, it's still an improvement.
I play the original (440) version and the converted (432) version multiple times and without a doubt, distortion is reduced and sound quality is improved. But most impotantly, it feels far more natural.

Grant, could any of you who figured out how to follow the directions to convert and changed music,possibly upload a youtube video of a song before and after?Could youcopy this Winter song, your new version?



Sure, I'll post here once I've got something put together... Just hang on to the weekend though if you can, I've never uploaded anything to the web before... no worries, I can learn it on the fly, I'm sure it's easy as. I'll probably upload something to youtube as I reakon that will be pretty basic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 549253


In the mean time, have a listen to this:
[link to www.432hz.nl]

I saw this guy live in Wellington NZ about 10 years ago... he can make his guitar sound like a couple of digery-doos, drums, ausralian wild life, all at the same time.
That's not the track at the above address, but it's still pretty good.
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11/13/2008 06:23 AM
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Extraordinary thread!!! And very important. More, more!

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11/13/2008 06:34 AM
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I want to hear Moonlight Sonata in 432Hz.
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11/13/2008 06:44 AM
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Interesting thread.

But it's not possible to tune my organ to 432Hz. The lowest it will go is 436hz.
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11/13/2008 06:47 AM
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I always play with the pitch of my recorded songs....you can get some startling reslts just moving the tone around.
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I always play with the pitch of my recorded songs....you can get some startling reslts just moving the tone around.
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You made an inadvertent point. Not all songs are recorded at 440Hz. I constantly have to tune my instrument into the songs I want to play to all the time.
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11/13/2008 06:51 AM
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Re: Change your music to universal 432Hz
Natures resonant 432 is not going to sound perfect, to humans. That's why humans changed it to 440 so it will sound like they want it to.
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11/13/2008 06:57 AM
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I'm a serious musician, I would like to get to the bottom of this, but what the hell about just tuning by ear until satisfied?

You seem amateurish, but the history of this is probably true. I'd rather .. you know. go the extra yard.
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11/13/2008 07:00 AM
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Does this have anything to do with Hendrix ' signature tuning down to Eb, also Guns and Roses did this on Sweet child O Mine. . .
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11/13/2008 07:13 AM
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Re: Change your music to universal 432Hz
bump
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11/13/2008 07:15 AM
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Does this have anything to do with Hendrix ' signature tuning down to Eb, also Guns and Roses did this on Sweet child O Mine. . .
 Quoting: ButchHowdy


I think bringing your guitar down 1/2 step does get very close
to this...
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11/13/2008 07:54 AM
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Re: Change your music to universal 432Hz
WARNING: As y'all test this out, realize that Nothing is more subjective than music. The PLACEBO EFFECT is king with music.

"Nature's resonant frequency"? ALL frequencies are valid; "loved by God" if you will, and 99.999% of the effect of music lay in it's musical CONTENT.

Ambient and meditation music is being made at 440, and It Works Just Fine, thank you.

The test of listening to the same track at two speeds Is Not Fair. The lower one will be relaxed and it also depends on the resonant frequencies of your speakers, the room and your location...AND YOUR EXPECTATIONS. In years of experience making and recording music, I Know that perceptions change day to day, even hour to hour. Some music sounds best in the Summer...

Another test would be to play some classical music piece (at same level of fidelity) and compare a modern recording at the slower speed with, say, an early 60s version by Bruno Walter at 440. Classical musicians are getting faster, more precise, tempos are UP (although experimentation is always happening too) and I believe any 60s version: pre digital age, pre mass dispursion of electromagnetic NOISE, will be more relaxed. Different. I miss the days of the analog environment...but Love digital, so...

Some super heavy hard rock bands are tuning down, some just a bit lower (flat), some to D or even C. (and the Roman Legion was vegitarian, barley gruel because they removed the teeth...) and they aren't doing it not for relaxing or "spiritual" reasons...

The Western World aint gonna change from a 440 standard, it's like English language standard, but local music (like in your seperatist survivalist compound) is free to change.
Grant
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11/26/2008 03:57 AM
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Ok, so I haven't kept my promise... I've not uploaded anything yet. I have been converting the occasional album though. All music resonates more, becomes easier to listen to and it makes my cheep PC speakers sound like an expensive stereo.
Also, I suppose it's obvious but the low notes are lower and seem to be a little more prominent. This adds quite a nice quality to voice.
Over all, I'm very pleased with the conversions. The only negative is tiny, almost undetectable audible artefacts that "pop" and "crackle" occasionally. But with most tracks I don't hear it unless I'm listening for them.
And OMG, you should her Edward & Alex Van Halen's "Respect the Wind" from the movie "Twister" (it play during the end credits) after conversion! And strangely, the power of the lower frequency notes in the unconverted version cause static like distortion on my PC speakers but after conversion, those notes are stronger and more powerful, yet my cheep speakers are crystal clear.
I definitely recommend trying this out, there is truth somewhere in all this 432hz hype.
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11/26/2008 04:09 AM
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[link to au.youtube.com]




Bless
El Dutcho
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11/26/2008 04:44 PM
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Re: Change your music to universal 432Hz
The previous post was post 3 432.

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El Dutcho
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The previous post was post 3 432.

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 Quoting: El Dutcho 519162


Oh no, not the post.
It was me, I was the 3 432nd viewer..
cool, I´m a musician.nice thread..

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11/26/2008 05:00 PM
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Re: Change your music to universal 432Hz
so as a guitar player I could get a good elctronic guitar tuner and tune A=432 instead of the usual A=440?


exactly.
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Try this:

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* Plays tone or saves as wav file.
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Tons of other good free audio stuff too.
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11/26/2008 05:22 PM
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Re: Change your music to universal 432Hz
The suggested transformations, will it imply also that the music is being played slower, at a lower bpm? This would't be right.

I find this topic interesting. As a violinist in my youth I've developed a sense of absolute pitch, and it is tuned to 440 Hz.

Incidentally, I recently found my old violin buried deep into a wardrobe. I discovered that it was just as perfectly in tune as when I left it there a couple of years ago... how odd is that? All four strings perfectly in tune, relative to 440 Hz ('A' string) as usual.

I just tuned the violin down to 432 Hz as an experiment but it sounds simply "wrong" right now for me. I'm prepared for the option of adjusting this perception though.

Interesting subject, changing our standard frames of reference!

/L
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11/26/2008 06:28 PM
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I love you, thank you for this, i have been wanting to do this for a while, lot of work, but im sure worth it.. thank you.
Hans Aberg
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11/26/2008 07:11 PM
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the difference between 440 and 432Hz is exactly -31.7666536 cents. I just checked and although i tune my guitar based on A=440hz, i do not follow twelve tone equal temperament tuning to the letter. In other words, a string tuned to A1 isn't quite 110hz but may be closer to 111hz to compensate for the physical distortion of the humming string, depending on what materials are used and what type of magnet is used in the guitar pick up... I also doubt classical musicians use electronic pickups on their instruments, so tuning is greatly influenced by the environment surrounding the instrument by which the sound is affected during its voyage to the ear or the microphone.
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11/26/2008 07:32 PM
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My son could tell the difference. He heard the same piece at 432Hz and 440Hz . He said the first one was happy sounding and the second one was almost violent (I just had him listen to the pieces, I didn't tell him what it pertained to.)



[link to www.432hz.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 399852


Be sure and try these samples. Sooo much more beautiful and resonating linking deeper within the centering of peace. Darn those Nazi Operation Paper Clip guys. hf

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