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I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.

 
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I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Because it is a biggest load of shit lie there is. Marijuana is NOT a gateway drug. If that were the case then i would have tried every hard drug known to man. But i have never tried a hard drug in my life. I saw no reason to.

People could start out with coffee and move on to hard drugs. it is all an individual thing.

As a matter of fact when people say that marijuana is a gateway drug they are effecting the weak minded people with a lie that will influence the weak minded to try hard drugs. Those who speak the lie of marijuana being a gateway drug are creating a problem that shouldnt even exist in the first place.

Oh well ....i just spoke the truth and it will eventually get out and spread among the worlds people. But im sure many others know this truth and are also spreading it. Time of lies is over. We are in a time where truth must be told.

Also marijuana is not a terribly addictive drug and is relatively easy to quit. That is what i have found out. One or two days of grumpiness ...that is the biggest withdrawal symptom there is. Not so bad compared to all the other crap drugs in the world.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
as Chappelle put it.. a gateway drug? yeah.. to more pot .. and food
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
I have smoked the shit out that herb for 18 years and had periods where I was dry for weeks or months at a time for various reasons. I never had any withdrawal from it.
Now it's been over 2 months cause I was in search of a job, now I found a job and hell yeah within 2 weeks the party will be on!

But I never, ever had any desire to try anything stronger.

Pot is the most awesome herb you can use! It has so many fucking benefits...
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Well it is a gateway drug. One cannot escape the facts once a person has started to do cannabis etc. it is only a matter of time till they start looking for a better bigger buzz than the last. You cannot base an argument on how you feel personally, you need to take a world viewpoint on such a matter as important as this
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
I used tobacco and alcohol before I ever tried pot, so technically either one of those two could be a gateway drug.

It's all nonsense.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Im glad other people know the truth....spread that truth brothers and sisters !
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
All the drugs I ever did, guess which one I tried first.

You guessed it...the gateway drug.

Until then I was anti-drug.

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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
lights up with everyone lol

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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Well it is a gateway drug. One cannot escape the facts once a person has started to do cannabis etc. it is only a matter of time till they start looking for a better bigger buzz than the last. You cannot base an argument on how you feel personally, you need to take a world viewpoint on such a matter as important as this
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No sorry i disagree ...i have found many people that have felt exactly like me ....so in my entire life i would have to say the percentages are about 90 percent who have never tried hard drugs to 10 percent who have. Im sure other will acknowledge this truth.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
The ptb use marijuana as a scapegoat drug. Marijuana to them is the perfect thing to blame all of mankinds ills on while they hide the real root causes of problems.

Human beings dont need any drugs to treat each other like garbage.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Yeah lol, I started smoking pot when I was 14 years old.
I started hanging out with other people that smoked pot.
Then I started buying my own weed.
Then I met a lot of interesting people I might never have known.
I met people that sold pot and Acid too.
Then I met people that sold a little Crank, Pot and Acid when they had it.
I went to parties where people smoked pot and some did Crank and Acid too.
I tried Acid for the first time when I was 16 years old.
I liked it.
I did it for a week straight one time.
I tried Coke the same year.
I thought Crank and Coke were the same thing so I tried Crank to.
All the while I continued to smoke pot.
I quit school before I was 17.
I actually could have quit before I turned 16 for all the good I was doing in school by that time.
Partying was way more important and fun than school or reality itself.
I am 40 years old in 6 days.
I have been drug free and alcohol free for about 9 years now.
It has been a long and bumpy road.
Luckily I have done no time for any drug related offenses.
pot is not a gateway drug for adults.
For kids on the other hand it is.
I know from experience.
I was once a young and naive teen who started smoking pot on the weekends.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Well it is a gateway drug. One cannot escape the facts once a person has started to do cannabis etc. it is only a matter of time till they start looking for a better bigger buzz than the last. You cannot base an argument on how you feel personally, you need to take a world viewpoint on such a matter as important as this
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Wrong.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
When I was in my late teens and early twenties I went from pot to LSD and even PCP.

I have not taken any hard drugs since then. Only poy and even very little alcohol.

I would have experimented with LSD and PCP even if pot never existed.

I believe thet ALCOHOL if the "gateway" drug moreso tham pot! Because it's legal and socially acceptable.


When people associate pot with hard drugs it gives young people the wrong impression that hard drugs are not as bad as pot. That is why it's called the "gateway drug".

People should NOT associate pot with hard drugs.

Many kids DIE because they do!!!

Pot is less harmful than alcohol (by my personal experience and not some government propaganda I read.)

However... It can become a habit, just as easily as alcohol or any other drug... especially if you suffer from depression and are self-medicating. Pot is much easier to quit than tobacco.

All this is from my own experience and not from a book of propaganda.


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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
All the drugs I ever did, guess which one I tried first.

You guessed it...the gateway drug.

Until then I was anti-drug.
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Same here. Same for many, many people I know.

OP, like anyone who wishes to sell their own subjective as "the correct" perspective is being just as bad as anyone else who would impose their reality tunnel on you.

Yet more arrogant presumption.

Of course, with all the stoners here, he's preaching to the choir.

Another GLP circle jerk.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Well it is a gateway drug. One cannot escape the facts once a person has started to do cannabis etc. it is only a matter of time till they start looking for a better bigger buzz than the last. You cannot base an argument on how you feel personally, you need to take a world viewpoint on such a matter as important as this
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No, it is NOT a gateway drug. That's what Nancy Reagan's campaign wants you to believe.

18 years chronic, never had even a desire to do coke or heroin or meth or anything other than pot.

When I say chronic, I mean wake and bake, lunch break, afternoon break, after work, on thru the night....everyday, every week, etc......

And I know a lot of people just like myself. So please don't start with this fucking gateway propaganda! It's not true!

I'm sure many people who are addicted to the hard stuff may have started with pot, but those people would have done the hard stuff anyway, whether they started with pot or not!!!
Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
you kids think its COOL. Its not

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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
It is often a gateway drug - to enormous quantities of marijuana.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
If it wasn't for pot I would have surely drank a lot more alcohol. (To treat my depression)

I would have been much more likely to die or kill someone in a car accident than smoking pot. I would have much more health problems too.

Alcohol is MUCH worse than pot!

Ask anyone...

Also... When I started taking Wellbutrin, I spontaneously quit pot. Now I take anti-depressants every day instead of pot.


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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
If you want to experiment I've got no problem with that. Although, some of the greatest acheivers in life, don't need drugs.

There are other recreational things to do like kayaking.

I enjoyed the time I did watching the Wall, getting stoned.

But I would rather be kayaking then getting killing brain cells, or damaging my ability to judge things.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
You weedheads are always good for some drama about how magical weed is and how it can save the world. LOL.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
you kids think its COOL. Its not

Freakouts
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First of all, I'm not a kid.
Secondly, if I've been chronically smoking the shit for 18 years and if it was a gateway drug, don't you think I would have tried some other stuff by now?

God you anti-pot people are so ignorant and closed-minded!

Which brings up another point. Pot enables you to open your mind more easily and think for your fucking self!

That's something the government doesn't want us sheeple to do.
Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
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Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
All the drugs I ever did, guess which one I tried first.

You guessed it...the gateway drug.

Until then I was anti-drug.

Same here. Same for many, many people I know.

OP, like anyone who wishes to sell their own subjective as "the correct" perspective is being just as bad as anyone else who would impose their reality tunnel on you.

Yet more arrogant presumption.

Of course, with all the stoners here, he's preaching to the choir.

Another GLP circle jerk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 402446



Im not a stoner and never felt like a stoner even when i smoked weed. Weed made me feel connected to life and nature. it made me feel aware and less out of it. But then again i was always drawn to nature and how things worked way before i ever smoked weed (around 15yo). I believe weed just brings out what is already in the person ...it does not make you who you are not. If a person is naturally a stoner (someone out of it) then that is who they are and that is what weed will bring out.

And i dont smoke weed anymore. Not for years now. But i know my physical and mental self very well. My spiritual self i am still learning. There are three parts to a person. Mental, physical and spiritual.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
If you want to experiment I've got no problem with that. Although, some of the greatest acheivers in life, don't need drugs.

There are other recreational things to do like kayaking.

I enjoyed the time I did watching the Wall, getting stoned.

But I would rather be kayaking then getting killing brain cells, or damaging my ability to judge things.
 Quoting: King Neptune



too late lol
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Marijuana is a scapegoat for the government. Their tabacco and alcohol are the gateway drugs. The only reason there is such a BFD is because of republicans like Nixon who used pot as a reason to shut up hippies and war protestors. "Oh look at those stupid hippies that don't believe in war. They are somking the pot so they are deranged and can't possibly be right." Blah blah blah
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Marajuana isn't, but all the Ritalin we pump down kids is...
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
You weedheads are always good for some drama about how magical weed is and how it can save the world. LOL.
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You probably never heard of Jack Herer. You best research friend. there is a video called Emperor of Hemp. See also NORML. See also a video called Michael Persinger - Psychotropic drugs and the nature of reality. The title of that video "..and the nature of reality" kind of threw me off. it is pretty scientific.

There is a lot of credible research done on this incredible and medicinal plant. Aside from marijuana, hemp makes a great fuel and textile product, for starters.

Anyhow, Jack Herer didn't smoked cannibus till around 30. Soon enough he couldn't stop spreading the word-the truth-that it, cannibus AND hemp, can save the world.

The gov't won't legalize it because it is not profitable for them. They, corperations, can't make a monopoly of it.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
science: Study shows marijuana increases brain cell growth
[link to www.peak.sfu.ca]

for starters...
from the university of STFU lol
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Im not a stoner and never felt like a stoner even when i smoked weed. Weed made me feel connected to life and nature. it made me feel aware and less out of it. But then again i was always drawn to nature and how things worked way before i ever smoked weed (around 15yo). I believe weed just brings out what is already in the person ...it does not make you who you are not. If a person is naturally a stoner (someone out of it) then that is who they are and that is what weed will bring out.

And i dont smoke weed anymore. Not for years now. But i know my physical and mental self very well. My spiritual self i am still learning. There are three parts to a person. Mental, physical and spiritual.
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So what?

What has ANY of that got to do with Marijuana not being a gateway drug?

The point is: Marijuana is most often the first illegal drug people try. Once they have done this, sampled a drug that they have been told all their lives is "bad" for them, and found it to be a substance they enjoy, they are going to question the people who have been telling them all along not to do it.

They are going to have less faith in those people who told them not to do it.

They are going to be more open than they were before to trying things labeled "bad" by those same people, because they've tried one, and found out that those people were talking bollocks.

In this sense, it most certainly IS a gateway drug.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Im not a stoner and never felt like a stoner even when i smoked weed. Weed made me feel connected to life and nature. it made me feel aware and less out of it. But then again i was always drawn to nature and how things worked way before i ever smoked weed (around 15yo). I believe weed just brings out what is already in the person ...it does not make you who you are not. If a person is naturally a stoner (someone out of it) then that is who they are and that is what weed will bring out.

And i dont smoke weed anymore. Not for years now. But i know my physical and mental self very well. My spiritual self i am still learning. There are three parts to a person. Mental, physical and spiritual.


So what?

What has ANY of that got to do with Marijuana not being a gateway drug?

The point is: Marijuana is most often the first illegal drug people try. Once they have done this, sampled a drug that they have been told all their lives is "bad" for them, and found it to be a substance they enjoy, they are going to question the people who have been telling them all along not to do it.

They are going to have less faith in those people who told them not to do it.

They are going to be more open than they were before to trying things labeled "bad" by those same people, because they've tried one, and found out that those people were talking bollocks.

In this sense, it most certainly IS a gateway drug.
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YUP! to more pot.. and food
lol
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
Well, the term "Gateway Drug" was actually borrowed from the Shamanic term "Gateway to the Gods" and "Gateway to the Other Worlds". They viewed certain herbs and hallucinagens as "gateways" that enabled their mind to close one door and open another.

Just one more example of TPTB's demonizing of a wonderful and traditionally accepted form of spiritual communication. Dubblespeak.
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Re: I hate it when some people say marijuana is a gateway drug.
it's only a gateway drug in the respect that if you can get pot, you can get access to a lot of other substances. Also when you try it and it has nothing to do with the propaganda, then why not try harder drugs?

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