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Why is Communism banned in USA? Why is USA an anti-Communist state?

 
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Why is Communism banned in USA? Why is USA an anti-Communist state?
First of all, isn't everyone allowed free speech? Why are the communists silenced? Could it be that Communist ideas are better than the ideas of Capitalists and Capitalists just don't want the truth to be heard? Where is democracy that USA is spreading in other countries via bombing? Could it be that whatever you know about Communism are lies and propaganda and they are hiding the truth about Communism from you by banning it?

Among the key elements of Nazism were anti-parliamentarism, ethnic nationalism, racism, collectivism, eugenics, antisemitism, opposition to economic liberalism and political liberalism, a racially-defined and conspiratorial view of finance capitalism, anti-communism, and totalitarianism.

also, giving more powers to federal reserve and letting it regulate the market is a step away from liberal economics or an opposition to economic liberalism.
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The USA is a Republic and it appears you should study political history. Unless you expect others to do your educating for you, such is your post.
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Dumb question
Cui Bono?
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The USA is a Republic and it appears you should study political history. Unless you expect others to do your educating for you, such is your post.
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whatever, isn't everyone allowed free speech? or should we silence what we don't want to hear? or is someone silencing those that want to bring you the truth that Capitalism is bad for humanity?
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The United States does allow communism here. My proof lies in the existence of CPUSA, the communist party of the United States, of which Hillary Clinton was even a member back in 1974 with a man named Robert Treuheft....

look it up.

So, an ex-commie might even be pres....!
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it's not banned, they just call communism something different here.
democracy!
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The USA is a Republic and it appears you should study political history. Unless you expect others to do your educating for you, such is your post.


whatever, isn't everyone allowed free speech? or should we silence what we don't want to hear? or is someone silencing those that want to bring you the truth that Capitalism is bad for humanity?
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Yeah, because communism was just great for humanity. Its not banned, its just that the only people that agree with its tenets are people with absolutely no grasp of history or common logic.
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it's not banned, they just call communism something different here.
democracy!
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no, it is more like Nazism/Corporatism/Fascism over here. In Communism, everything is owned by the people - the state just regulates how the Capital is divided and used.
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The USA is a Republic and it appears you should study political history. Unless you expect others to do your educating for you, such is your post.


whatever, isn't everyone allowed free speech? or should we silence what we don't want to hear? or is someone silencing those that want to bring you the truth that Capitalism is bad for humanity?

Yeah, because communism was just great for humanity. Its not banned, its just that the only people that agree with its tenets are people with absolutely no grasp of history or common logic.
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so, you say that i have no knowledge of history and common logic. and your accusations based on what?

let me test your knowledge of history and facts: who caused the destruction of Afghanistan as a Nation? Was it Soviets or was it USA?
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communists seem to be better capitalists than capitalists.

Russia has no debts and is a lender nation. China makes all the stuff.
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there's no "profit" in it
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there's no "profit" in it
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the moment you let someone put you to work in a competitive market, that same moment you let someone take away your dignity and become a slave. they just make your lifestyle pretty and put a "dream" in front of you so that you keep going.

our purpose isn't about making someone rich.
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Where the hell did you get the idea that Communism is banned in the US, Opie?

Newsflash: it ain't. Never has been.
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Because when you put a Government in charge of everything, they are guarenteed to fuck it up.

Under Communism, there is no incentive for the individual.

And Communism doesn't work.

It's a failed ideology.

The only people who think it would work are lazy idiots who think somebody else should provide for them, and think they are so fucking smart and clever because they can point fingers at other people and blame them for their failed miserable lives.

Communism is not banned in the USA, you won't go to jail if you are a communist.

Just like you won't go to jail for being a worthless waste of sperm....
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Where the hell did you get the idea that Communism is banned in the US, Opie?

Newsflash: it ain't. Never has been.
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[link to www.learnhistory.org.uk]
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it's not banned, they just call communism something different here.
democracy!


no, it is more like Nazism/Corporatism/Fascism over here. In Communism, everything is owned by the people - the state just regulates how the Capital is divided and used.
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man you made me laugh hard.... saying : "In Communism, everything is owned by the people" is such a stupidity that either you are just troll and someone told you to do this or you must be not from this planet


btw WHERE on the planet ever was anything owned by people huh?...Cuba?...North Korea?...
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-edit- sry, double post -edit-
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!

A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
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In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.

This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.

I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!


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as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi


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If, and that is a big IF, communism would ever be allowed to come to be, instead of just staying in the totalitarian state that usually comes just b4 the transition, it might be alright...

but no "communist" state has ever taken that final step, they always stay in the dictatorship until a full revolution comes, and then it has to start over again...



my biggest "beefs" with communism (if a nation were to acheive true communism) are that it usually does not allow much personal advancement or expression, and that it is ANTI FAMILY, which is absolutely devastating.



we need a FAMILY based, localized (spread out, complete opposite of centralized... each person has equal power in the fictional state, and is allowed complete freedom of self ownership [which is what ALL freedom extends from]) and communal "government" (not communist, but more so leaned towards familiar community and COMMUNICATION)


or, as i call it... A Familiar Sociocracy
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!

A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
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In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.

This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.

I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!


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as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi


"the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me
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Re: Why is Communism banned in USA? Why is USA an anti-Communist state?
Because when you put a Government in charge of everything, they are guarenteed to fuck it up.

Under Communism, there is no incentive for the individual.

And Communism doesn't work.

It's a failed ideology.

The only people who think it would work are lazy idiots who think somebody else should provide for them, and think they are so fucking smart and clever because they can point fingers at other people and blame them for their failed miserable lives.

Communism is not banned in the USA, you won't go to jail if you are a communist.

Just like you won't go to jail for being a worthless waste of sperm....
 Quoting: Whiskey Brother 402013


no one was providing free food to anyone in the soviet union. they even had a slogan "those that don't work - do not eat."

the government provided free housing, free unlimited education, free healthcare, free sports, free music schools, and other benefits.

people still worked to make sure that they could buy food and pay for some bills.

life wasn't about getting rich at the expense of others.

life was about enjoying everything life has to offer.

KGB kept the government on its toes and made sure that the Government did not abuse its powers.

USA's intervention was a cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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Just wait until the US is in the sixth year of a McCain presidency... then turning to communism, sticking him in a cage and poking him with a sharp piece of bamboo will sound just about right.
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-edit- sry, double post -edit-
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it is very untrue that communism is anti-family and anti-religion.

my grand mother had 9 kids, she was praised by the Government, given many extra benefits, given and order of a Mother Hero.

my mother is the most religious and God-fearing person you will ever meet.
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it's not banned, they just call communism something different here.
democracy!


no, it is more like Nazism/Corporatism/Fascism over here. In Communism, everything is owned by the people - the state just regulates how the Capital is divided and used.


man you made me laugh hard.... saying : "In Communism, everything is owned by the people" is such a stupidity that either you are just troll and someone told you to do this or you must be not from this planet


btw WHERE on the planet ever was anything owned by people huh?...Cuba?...North Korea?...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 367753


why don't you open a book a actually read the Communism manifesto instead of believing in rumors and propaganda? don't you owe it to yourself to know both sides so that you truly know that you are not being fooled by the capitalists?
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Where the hell did you get the idea that Communism is banned in the US, Opie?

Newsflash: it ain't. Never has been.


[link to www.learnhistory.org.uk]
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[link to www.marxists.org]
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it's not banned, they just call communism something different here.
democracy!


no, it is more like Nazism/Corporatism/Fascism over here. In Communism, everything is owned by the people - the state just regulates how the Capital is divided and used.


man you made me laugh hard.... saying : "In Communism, everything is owned by the people" is such a stupidity that either you are just troll and someone told you to do this or you must be not from this planet


btw WHERE on the planet ever was anything owned by people huh?...Cuba?...North Korea?...


why don't you open a book a actually read the Communism manifesto instead of believing in rumors and propaganda? don't you owe it to yourself to know both sides so that you truly know that you are not being fooled by the capitalists?
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listen dude ...I have plenty of friends here who came from former commies countries or at least their parents came fro m there and heard enough how i was there ... you are just very confused man - or very brainwashed.
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you guys all complain about the Federal Reserve and NWO, and how the Illuminati are conspiring against the people, but can't figure out that these same people are hiding the truth from you about Communism, and raised you with lies and made you believe that Communism is EVIL. Communism is EVIL to the Illuminati - not the people. Don't you get it?
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it's not banned, they just call communism something different here.
democracy!


no, it is more like Nazism/Corporatism/Fascism over here. In Communism, everything is owned by the people - the state just regulates how the Capital is divided and used.


man you made me laugh hard.... saying : "In Communism, everything is owned by the people" is such a stupidity that either you are just troll and someone told you to do this or you must be not from this planet


btw WHERE on the planet ever was anything owned by people huh?...Cuba?...North Korea?...


why don't you open a book a actually read the Communism manifesto instead of believing in rumors and propaganda? don't you owe it to yourself to know both sides so that you truly know that you are not being fooled by the capitalists?


listen dude ...I have plenty of friends here who came from former commies countries or at least their parents came fro m there and heard enough how i was there ... you are just very confused man - or very brainwashed.
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those "ex-commies" never read this fact [link to www.globalresearch.ca]

if those "ex-commies" ever learn that USA actually fucked up their great lives...
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Re: Why is Communism banned in USA? Why is USA an anti-Communist state?
Because when you put a Government in charge of everything, they are guarenteed to fuck it up.

Under Communism, there is no incentive for the individual.

And Communism doesn't work.

It's a failed ideology.

The only people who think it would work are lazy idiots who think somebody else should provide for them, and think they are so fucking smart and clever because they can point fingers at other people and blame them for their failed miserable lives.

Communism is not banned in the USA, you won't go to jail if you are a communist.

Just like you won't go to jail for being a worthless waste of sperm....


no one was providing free food to anyone in the soviet union. they even had a slogan "those that don't work - do not eat."

the government provided free housing, free unlimited education, free healthcare, free sports, free music schools, and other benefits.

people still worked to make sure that they could buy food and pay for some bills.

life wasn't about getting rich at the expense of others.

life was about enjoying everything life has to offer.

KGB kept the government on its toes and made sure that the Government did not abuse its powers.

USA's intervention was a cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396041



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow keep watching the pravda. What a fucking moron. Why dont you just beg someone to throw you in prison, so you can think about life without having to worry about making someone (namely oneself) rich. We work together here asshole. Everyone has a job, and when someone needs someone to do that job, they give them a call. Everyone makes money, there are some people that are very good at it, and others really dont care to make alot of money. Everyones been screwed in one way or another, but thats life, we dont cry about it like you. The soviet union was the cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union. They competed with the US, which should have been an obvious ideological mistake. When communism competes against capitalism, it will lose every time.
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it's not banned, they just call communism something different here.
democracy!


no, it is more like Nazism/Corporatism/Fascism over here. In Communism, everything is owned by the people - the state just regulates how the Capital is divided and used.


man you made me laugh hard.... saying : "In Communism, everything is owned by the people" is such a stupidity that either you are just troll and someone told you to do this or you must be not from this planet


btw WHERE on the planet ever was anything owned by people huh?...Cuba?...North Korea?...


why don't you open a book a actually read the Communism manifesto instead of believing in rumors and propaganda? don't you owe it to yourself to know both sides so that you truly know that you are not being fooled by the capitalists?


listen dude ...I have plenty of friends here who came from former commies countries or at least their parents came fro m there and heard enough how i was there ... you are just very confused man - or very brainwashed.


those "ex-commies" never read this fact [link to www.globalresearch.ca]

if those "ex-commies" ever learn that USA actually fucked up their great lives...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396041


you are very very confused man ...

why don't you rather tell us who made you to come here and start this thread ... that might be more interesting stuff.
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OK. forget about what I said, please.

it is hard to argue with people that on one side bitch about NWO and on the other side bitch about the idea that defeats the NWO.

American people do not read, are most uneducated, and most misinformed.

300 years later you still have problems with healthcare and education, and about to have a major problem with Social Security for baby boomers.

so, i'll just stop, it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks...
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OK. forget about what I said, please.

it is hard to argue with people that on one side bitch about NWO and on the other side bitch about the idea that defeats the NWO.

American people do not read, are most uneducated, and most misinformed.

300 years later you still have problems with healthcare and education, and about to have a major problem with Social Security for baby boomers.

so, i'll just stop, it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks...
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one : what make you think all posters here are from US huh?
two : obviously you must be living in some most beautiful country in the universe where commies are nice guys and all have plenty -- please share it with us and reveal where is it? ...where are you from huh?
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The slogan of Communism is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". But the reality is more like "From each according to his apathy, to each according to his greed". That's why it can't work - it's an ideology that runs contrary to human nature.

Aside from the fact that "communism" is never attained by any government, because those in power generally find reasons to remain in [power, the fact that the philosophy runs contrary to human nature /automatically/ implies a government to force people to not cheat the system. In short, Communism's stated goal that 'the state will wither away' is self-defeating.

As for whosit's delusion that the USSR was a 'worker's paradise' (to boil it down): get a clue, you've been staring at Potemkin Village too long.

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