Recession Proof GLP - "Plague Tonic" with apple cider vinegar and hot peppers, etc. | |
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malu User ID: 401272 United States 04/01/2008 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that sounds like something Octo used to make, but with vodka instead of vinegar that is very interesting, i bet it would work well as a natural insecticide for your garden too! "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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mercury2 (OP) User ID: 405659 France 04/01/2008 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did the canary die? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254879Well, no canary, but kitty seems to be okay. I'm glad I picked a day when having the windows open was feasible. It's not warm out but it's not raining. Funny about birds, did you know people feed those habanero peppers to their parrots? I guess parrots and maybe other birds don't have the ability to detect the hot burning part of the peppers. They like them. I was reading about cayenne pepper and they were saying that hot peppers feel like they are burning you, they feel like they are causing damage, but they don't actually burn you or cause damage. Isn't that odd? Do you like horse radish? I always liked horseradish on my sandwiches when I was a kid, I used to like it especially with swiss cheese. I don't eat it much these days, but I should, I'm sure it's good for you. Wow it's wicked to grate though. Best to buy the already prepared stuff! |
mercury2 (OP) User ID: 405659 France 04/01/2008 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that sounds like something Octo used to make, but with vodka instead of vinegar Quoting: maluthat is very interesting, i bet it would work well as a natural insecticide for your garden too! Hi malu vodka would work, but I better stick with the vinegar :-) And, no doubt any critters would not stick around the garden if you applied this stuff. In fact maybe that would be a good use for the pulp that's left over when you strain it after it's "brewed". You could scatter that around the garden and maybe that would repel bunnies and stuff. One thing about the organic, raw vinegar, I think it gets ahold of this stuff and ferments it, so it changes, maybe that would be different than using alcohol, which would just preserve it. |
mercury2 (OP) User ID: 405659 France 04/01/2008 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent post,op, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387833I just brush with baking soda and hydrogen peroxide. Thanks! Now are you joking around, or did you read "Plague" as "Plaque"? This stuff might take plaque off your teeth, but it would probably take the enamel off too. Hence the baking soda addition, and best to rinse your mouth afterward too. It's not going to give you fresh breath either with all that garlic and onions! :-) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 405971 Netherlands 04/01/2008 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I jsut cracked open another beer. Quoting: mercury2Hi nuke guy, I cracked my last beer in 1994! Hope yours is good to the last drop! Wow.how do you crack your last beer?I don't think I can do that.What's the point after that if you love beer? |
mercury2 (OP) User ID: 405659 France 04/01/2008 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I jsut cracked open another beer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 405971Hi nuke guy, I cracked my last beer in 1994! Hope yours is good to the last drop! Wow.how do you crack your last beer?I don't think I can do that.What's the point after that if you love beer? The point was to stay alive ;-) Guess it worked, I'm still here! |
malu User ID: 401272 United States 04/02/2008 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I jsut cracked open another beer. Quoting: mercury2Hi nuke guy, I cracked my last beer in 1994! Hope yours is good to the last drop! Wow.how do you crack your last beer?I don't think I can do that.What's the point after that if you love beer? The point was to stay alive ;-) Guess it worked, I'm still here! hey good for you! i was thinking that it would not only repel rabbits and such, but aphids, slugs, all the little bugs that love to eat our gardens i seriously think having a brew like this around should the sh*t hit the fan, it would keep you from getting all the crud that will be going around. you said this was at the earth clinic? i will check that out and see if there is more to learn "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
mercury2 (OP) User ID: 406487 France 04/02/2008 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow.how do you crack your last beer?I don't think I can do that.What's the point after that if you love beer? Quoting: maluThe point was to stay alive ;-) Guess it worked, I'm still here! ----------------------------- hey good for you! i was thinking that it would not only repel rabbits and such, but aphids, slugs, all the little bugs that love to eat our gardens i seriously think having a brew like this around should the sh*t hit the fan, it would keep you from getting all the crud that will be going around. you said this was at the earth clinic? i will check that out and see if there is more to learn Hi malu, no this particular recipe wasn't at Earth Clinic, but maybe I should post it there. I got it here originally, I'm pretty sure, and I think it had been posted previously at that Current Events forum? curevents.com They have a lot of prep and bird flu information there. I think I found that forum when someone posted the recipe here at GLP. Ted at the Earth Clinc recommends you take vinegar with baking soda to neutralize it, so I applied his advice to this tonic too, seems sensible. I was wondering about using apple cider vinegar on salads all the time, I make my own dressing with olive oil and organic vinegar, I wonder if that's hard on your teeth? My teeth seem more sensitive lately since I've been eating salad all the time. And yes, this stuff seems like good stuff to have around in case of a bad cold or flu. I just like it. The quantities I posted above seem like enough to make TWO gallon jars 3/4 full so there's room to shake it, and room to add more vinegar and make it go farther. I am going to go find another big jar and stretch this a little, when I made it before I used smaller quantities of everything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 367872 United States 04/02/2008 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that sounds like something Octo used to make, but with vodka instead of vinegar Quoting: mercury2that is very interesting, i bet it would work well as a natural insecticide for your garden too! Hi malu vodka would work, but I better stick with the vinegar :-) And, no doubt any critters would not stick around the garden if you applied this stuff. In fact maybe that would be a good use for the pulp that's left over when you strain it after it's "brewed". You could scatter that around the garden and maybe that would repel bunnies and stuff. One thing about the organic, raw vinegar, I think it gets ahold of this stuff and ferments it, so it changes, maybe that would be different than using alcohol, which would just preserve it. malu, I think Octo was only using vodka and garlic. I have it on another computer at another location. I'll see if I can find it. As for putting the pulp to good use op, how about adding it to the your next pot of chili. Most of the ingredients you listed I already put in my ("World Famous) chili. |
anonomous User ID: 405725 United States 04/02/2008 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok 1 tablespoon applecider venigar 1 tablespoon Honey in cup of warm water drink amount 2 or 3 times daily..2 tablespoon codliver oil drink it twice daily.. whole fresh peeled 4 &r 5 garlic cloves uncooked on your baked potatoes .with 1or 2 tablespoon of extra virgin first cold pressed olive oil on your baked potato instead of butter etc..use .daily..................now.if you get flu add this each day drink 12 ounce cranberry juice with 1 tablespoon applecider venigar two times daily for flu symtoms...garglewith applecider venigar..kills staph and strep germs in the throat.rinse your nasal passages with applecider venergar to kill sinus infection..then use water to rinse ut cider..disenfect your tooth brush everytime you brush..paper cups paper plates any thing you can use and throw aways is good idea...use bathtowel 1 time only..it tranfers germs to you the next day.use thick paper towels to dry off with..no need to spend money to laundry them..less housework... |
mercury2 (OP) User ID: 406487 France 04/02/2008 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure this is copyrighted material! It's from Daniel Reid's book "The Tao of Sex, Health, and Longevity". I found it at the site [link to www.hps-online.com] Fair use for the purposes of discussion and I'll put a link to the book at the end of this post: The following suggestions for juice and raw foods for the respiratory system were given for asthma, but then were cited for bronchitis, coughs and pneumonia as well: Horseradish and lemon juice: the potent ethers in fresh grated horseradish dissolve mucus in the sinuses and bronchial tubes quickly and effectively; mixing it with fresh lemon juice doubles its efficacy; grate fresh horseradish into a bowel, add enough fresh lemon juice to make a paste, take 1/2 tsp 2-3 times a day, as needed. Carrot and radish juice: fresh raw radish juice is similar in effect to horseradish, but milder; it is too strong to take straight, however, and should be blended 5 oz with 11 oz carrot juice, 1 pint daily. Cranberries: cranberries contain one of nature's most potent vasodilators, which open up congested bronchial tubes so that normal breathing is restored; cranberries are excellent curative and preventive therapy for the entire breathing apparatus; bring fresh cranberries to boil with just enough water to cover them, simmer 2-3 minutes, pour off excess water, puree cranberries in blender, strain off skins, and keep pulp in refrigerator; when asthma or other respiratory difficulty occurs, mix 2 tbsp in a cup of warm distilled water and sip slowly. Garlic: raw garlic contains potent ethers and enzymes that dissolve mucus in lungs and bronchial tubes and help restore normal breathing; also kills bacteria in air passages, preventing respiratory infections; 3-5 cloves daily. Other beneficial foods: wheat germ oil; pumpkin seeds; sunflower seeds; celery juice; turnips; raw spinach. Carrot and dandelion juice: raw dandelion juice counteracts blood acidosis and helps alkalize the entire system, with particular affinity for the lungs; 4 oz with 10 oz carrot juice, 1-2 pints daily. Horseradish and lemon juice: same effects and dosage as for asthma. Carrot and radish juice: same as for asthma. Cranberries: same as for asthma. Other beneficial foods: celery juice: raw radishes; raw spinach; whole lemon puree' (mix in blender with cup of distilled water): watercress. Foods to avoid: same as for asthma. Coughs Coughs are caused mainly by the body's attempt to rid itself of excess toxic mucus through the lungs and bronchial tubes; the toxins irritate tender lining of throat, causing the throat to 'cough it up'. Cleansing-detox is the very first step towards resolving this issue followed by a rejuvenation-diet. The below foods and juices are therapeutic and healing after your cleansing. Pineapple: fresh ripe pineapple is rich in bromelin, a proteolytic (protein digesting enzyme); bromelin literally 'digests' dead and diseased cells and foreign microbes in the throat; cut pineapple into cubes, chew well, and let juice dribble down the throat, but spit out the pulp; or gargle with the freshly extracted juice of ripe pineapple, and spit it out. Persimmons: raw, very ripe persimmons soothe sore throats and contain enzymes that break down damaged cells and foreign microbes. Horseradish and lemon juice: for coughs and accompanied by heavy mucus congestion in lungs and sinuses; same usage as asthma Whole lemon puree: puree a whole lemon (with skin, fiber and seeds) in blender with a cup of distilled water, and drink slowly; flavor with 1 tbsp. molasses, if desired, but no sugar; dissolves mucus, restores mucus membranes; biflavonoids in skin and fiber assist in restoring tissue integrity in respiratory system. Other beneficial foods: carrot juice; raw radishes; cranberries (as for asthma): raw spinach, raw garlic; molasses. Foods to avoid: pasteurized milks and all dairy products; all cooked food; all refined starch and sugar; eat nothing but raw fruit and raw vegetable juice. Influenza The 'flu' is caused primarily by the body's vulnerability to flu germs owing to extreme toxemia of the system, which results in excessive retention of toxic wastes, which impair immunity; flu strikes hardest in winter, because in winter the body excretes wastes more slowly and people eat less fresh, raw foods; toxic tissues, mostly in the respiratory apparatus, become breeding grounds for air-born pathological bacteria. Cleansing-detox is the very first step towards resolving this issue followed by a rejuvenation-diet. The below foods and juices are therapeutic and healing after your cleansing. Horseradish and lemon juice: same for asthma. Carrot, celery, parsley, spinach juice: this blend is super-rich in potassium, which quickly reduces acidity throughout the system, thereby commencing the detoxification process required for complete cure and recovery. This blend also contains the full range of organic minerals and other nutrients required to sustain convalescing patients, without stuffing them full of solid foods;8 oz/4 oz/2 oz/4 oz, 1-2 pints daily, taken in small doses throughout the day. Other beneficial foods: lettuce juice; carrot and radish juice; whole lemon puree; grapefruit juice (in distilled warm water); distilled warm water. Foods to avoid: all cooked and solid foods; pasteurized milk; coffee, tea; sweet soft drinks. Pneumonia Severe inflammation of lung tissues owing to vicarious elimination of highly toxic wastes through the respiratory system, which becomes infected by pathogenic bacteria as a result; due largely to excessive long-term consumption of pasteurized milk, refined starch and sugars. At the turn of the century, Dr. J.H. Tilden of Denver, Colorado, treated thousands of cases of pneumonia using only two methods: fasting with daily colonic irrigations, and nutritional therapy; no drugs, no surgery, and he never lost a single patient! Cleansing-detox is the very first step towards resolving this issue followed by a rejuvenation-diet. The below foods and juices are therapeutic and healing after your cleansing. Horseradish and lemon juice: same for asthma; provides quick relief from mucus congestion. Carrot, celery and radish juice: dissolves mucus; alkalizes bloodstream and respiratory tract; accelerates detoxification, and thus restores natural immunity; 8 oz/5 oz/3 oz, 1 pint daily. Carrot and spinach juice: detoxifies colon and restores normal bowel functions, thereby taking excretory load off the respiratory system; 10 oz/6 oz, 2 pints daily. Other beneficial foods: cranberry (as for asthma); raw garlic; whole lemon puree (as for colds); molasses. Foods to avoid: all refined starch and sugar; pasteurized milk and all dairy products; all cooked foods, especially meat and eggs. Source: Daniel Reid. The Tao of Sex, Health and Longevity [link to www.amazon.com] |
mercury2 (OP) User ID: 457717 France 06/24/2008 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was reading the "recession proof GLP" starter thread and they were saying to change some of your old thread titles if they're suitable to go under that heading. So I changed this one. Did anyone else try making this besides me? I aged it two weeks and then strained it through cheese cloth and poured it back into the vinegar bottles. I have to say it really is much better after it's aged for a while. When it's freshly made it has quite an effect on your guts. I notice that it doesn't do that nearly as much after it has aged for a while. It tastes better after it's older too. I refrigerated it after it was done brewing but in the original recipe it said you didn't have to. |
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anna conda User ID: 530418 United States 12/02/2008 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I made this once before and liked it, I only have half a bottle left so today I made a new batch. Here's how I did it: Quoting: mercury2It's supposed to be equal parts of the following, 3 onions (strongest ones) 3 heads of garlic a lot of hot red peppers - you could use habaneros, but not me a lot of fresh ginger root two big horseradish roots You chop these very fine or grate them and cover them with organic apple cider vinegar in a big glass gallon jar with a good lid. I used two quarts of Hain vinegar. The last time I made this I chopped these things fine with a chef's knife, except the horseradish and maybe the ginger, which I grated. I kind of couldn't face the fumes again and thought I would use my Jack LaLanne juicer instead this time It worked pretty darn well, but I was still overwhelmed with fumes even with all the windows open. I had to peel and quarter the onions, peel the horseradish and cut it small (kind of a dull blade in my older juicer, it was secondhand and has seen hard use), that horseradish is something else. Had to peel all the garlic. Running that stuff through the juicer generated some awesome fumes. The tears were running down my face and I could barely open my eyes. But I'd rather run the juicer with my eyes mostly closed, than use a grater or a big sharp knife. Anyway you take the chopped, grated items or the pulp and juice from the juicer, and put it in a big gallon size glass jar and add organic apple cider vinegar to cover it (to fill the jar is what I did). (edited to add - I ended up getting another gallon glass jar and splitting the batch so I could add more vinegar to it, and so that there was room in the jar to shake it.) Then you let it age for at least two weeks, but you can let it go a month. You're supposed to shake it vigorously every day. After that you strain it and put it in bottles. I was saving the smaller pint size vinegar bottles that I used last time. Those work better for decanting it than the big quart size bottles that are a better deal. I've been taking it the way Ted says to take apple cider vinegar at Earth Clinic, two tablespoons of vinegar tonic with 1/8 teaspoon baking soda, then add some water and drink it, it tastes good, kind of fruity. I suppose I use a little more than 1/8 teaspoon baking soda. This batch is going to be prettier than the old batch I made, you should have seen that hot red pepper juice come out of the juicer, it was gorgeous, blood red, the whole batch is a better color. Anyone else ever try this? I think I saw this recipe first here at GLP, but someone here found it at another forum. Not sure what the origin of it is. It's supposed to be antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal. Bet if you add olive oil, it would make a killer salad dressing. |