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If proposterious idea the earth and the universe is only 6000 years old was true...Would it not be a logical argument that we would not see but maybe 1/100 of the stars we see in the sky considering all the stars that are 6000 or more light years away would not be visable because the light would just now be getting here or has not even reached earth yet?
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If proposterious idea the earth and the universe is only 6000 years old was true...Would it not be a logical argument that we would not see but maybe 1/100 of the stars we see in the sky considering all the stars that are 6000 or more light years away would not be visable because the light would just now be getting here or has not even reached earth yet?
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Your absolutely right, but the 6000 year old earth idea is so stupid I don't think its even worth discussing.( I wasn't the one who gave you 1 star by the way)
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I have a guy at work that is saying the believes in this so it got me thinking...
He also thinks Dinosaurs were created 6000 years ago too and exsisted up until the flood, but being that they were just too big to fit on Noahs Ark they were killed by the flood and went extint, what a fool he is.
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Google Parallax.. it's how they measure the distance to the stars.

You have to love the 6,000 year old earth crowd, according to them, triangles don't work in space!

MADNESS!!!!
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YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR YOUR LACK OF FAITH

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I have a guy at work that is saying the believes in this so it got me thinking...
He also thinks Dinosaurs were created 6000 years ago too and exsisted up until the flood, but being that they were just too big to fit on Noahs Ark they were killed by the flood and went extint, what a fool he is.
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Bet he'd love this site:

[link to www.alaska.net]
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I have a guy at work that is saying the believes in this so it got me thinking...
He also thinks Dinosaurs were created 6000 years ago too and exsisted up until the flood, but being that they were just too big to fit on Noahs Ark they were killed by the flood and went extint, what a fool he is.
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Your co-worker is wrong. The dinosaurs did not die in Noah's flood.

They lived in the first earth age and died before mankind, as we know them, was created.

The earth is NOT 6000 years old. But the time since the creation of THE man Adam has been approximately that length of time.
Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Here in America - in GOD we still trust...
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God.
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pyramids channel cosmic energy into 3rd dimensional properties ?
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pyramids channel cosmic energy into 3rd dimensional properties ?
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Don't know about that - but sure do not believe the great pyramid was built by the Egyptians.

Do you?
Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Here in America - in GOD we still trust...
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God.
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I have a guy at work that is saying the believes in this so it got me thinking...
He also thinks Dinosaurs were created 6000 years ago too and exsisted up until the flood, but being that they were just too big to fit on Noahs Ark they were killed by the flood and went extint, what a fool he is.


Bet he'd love this site:

[link to www.alaska.net]
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LMAO are these "Flat Earthers" serious or is it another parady organization like The Flying Spagetti Monster that makes fun of dogmatic belifes?
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what kinda of retard do you have to be to believe this shit
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Re: 6000 year old Earth?
The date of the universe used to be younger.

They date the universe by the age of the earth.

They date the sun by the age of the earth.

The earth is around 6000 years old, not billions.

Until YOU realize the earth is 6000 years old you are not ready for stellar theory, and thats all it is, theory.
[link to www.creationresearch.org]

The heavens were stretched out from the center, and with that the light. We are at the center according to doppler red shift.
[link to www.halos.com]
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what kinda of retard do you have to be to believe this shit
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Well, its what fascinates me with alot of christians...They will belive in ludicris things like this, but bring up subjects like ufo, alien, or even Nephilim (not saying any of this stuff is real just making upsome examples) and they will denounce or not even listen to anything unless its in thier preicious bible or there "religion" says so.
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what kinda of retard do you have to be to believe this shit
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A brainless retard.
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The date of the universe used to be younger.

They date the universe by the age of the earth.

They date the sun by the age of the earth.

The earth is around 6000 years old, not billions.

Until YOU realize the earth is 6000 years old you are not ready for stellar theory, and thats all it is, theory.
[link to www.creationresearch.org]

The heavens were stretched out from the center, and with that the light. We are at the center according to doppler red shift.
[link to www.halos.com]
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Gravity is a theory too, but I know you don't understand the scientific method. You see these things have been MEASURED.

I know this is pointless, mentioning it to someone that honestly thinks bronze age people have anything right, while they use a COMPUTER.

But look, incase you’ve missed it, light travels at a constant speed.

It’s been measured.

As the Earth goes AROUND the sun, you can measure the parallax effect of the stars. It’s a simple triangle. We know how far the stars are because of simple TRIANGLES.

The earth is significantly older than six millennia.

But as you use devices that employ light, and rely on the fixed speed of light to argue that light does not travel at the speed of light.

It’s funny.

It must be tragic living with a Bronze Age mindset in the twenty first century.

I pity you.
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what kinda of retard do you have to be to believe this shit

Well, its what fascinates me with alot of christians...They will belive in ludicris things like this, but bring up subjects like ufo, alien, or even Nephilim (not saying any of this stuff is real just making upsome examples) and they will denounce or not even listen to anything unless its in thier preicious bible or there "religion" says so.
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There is the exact same quality of evidence for 'God' as for 'The Holocaust'(tm), extraterrestrial abductions, headless ghosts and fairies at the bottom of the garden.

What did I miss?
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The earth is significantly older than six millennia.


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prove it.


Evolution Dates the
Solar System and Universe
by the Evolutionary Age of the Earth

Jonathan F. Henry, Ph.D.

Hartmann claims that, "The age of the solar system is 4.6 Gy [billion years]. This figure has been derived from studies of rocks from three planetary sources: the meteorites … the moon, and Earth" (Hartmann, 1983, p. 119). There appear to be three independent dating sources (the meteorites, the moon, and the earth) referenced here, but in fact the age of the moon is worked out to agree with the earth's alleged age (Hammond, 1974, p. 911; Fix, 1999, p. 186), and that of meteorites is worked out to be slightly older than the earth (Fix, 1999, p. 335). This may appear surprising, since these chronologies are based on radiometric dating results, but the fact is that,

In general, dates in the `correct ball park' are assumed to be correct and are published, but those in disagreement with other data are seldom published…(Mauger, 1977, p. 37).

There is thus a concentration of accepted radiometric dates around the values preconceived as being correct, for such "figures are obtained by omitting, with no objective reason, the much broader deviations" (Waterhouse, 1979, p. 499). The apparent convergence of radiometric dating results is more a chimera than reality because "many age determinations which do not agree with currently accepted time scales are simply rejected as wrong…" (Paul, 1980, p. 184). Even for the currently popular neodymium/samarium dating method, "In the majority of cases the ages are off and the [discrepant] data disappear in a lab-datafile" (Jagoutz, 1994, p. 156). When all is said and done, the age of the earth remains the chronological baseline for evolution. More will be said about meteoritic dating of the solar system and the earth below.
[link to www.creationresearch.org]
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[link to www.answersingenesis.org]
Evidence for a Young World/Universe
by Dr. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D., ICR associate professor of physics

1. Galaxies wind themselves up too fast.
2. Too few supernova remnants.
3. Comets disintegrate too quickly.
4. Not enough mud on the sea floor.
5. Not enough sodium in the sea.
6. The earth’s magnetic field is decaying too fast.
7. Many strata are too tightly bent.
8. Biological material decays too fast.
9. Fossil radioactivity shortens geologic “ages” to a few years.
10. Too much helium in minerals.
11. Too much carbon 14 in deep geologic strata.
12. Not enough Stone Age skeletons.
13. Agriculture is too recent.
14. History is too short.
[link to www.icr.org]

[link to www.creationevidence.org]
EVIDENCE FOR CREATION

1. The Fossil Record...Evolutionists have constructed the Geologic Column in order to illustrate the supposed progression of "primitive" life forms to "more complex" systems we observe today. Yet, "since only a small percentage of the earth's surface obeys even a portion of the geologic column the claim of their having taken place to form a continuum of rock/life/time over the earth is therefore a fantastic and imaginative contrivance.1" "The lack of transitional series cannot be explained as being due to the scarcity of material. The deficiencies are real, they will never be filled."2 This supposed column is actually saturated with "polystrate fossils" (fossils extending from one geologic layer to another) that tie all the layers to one time-frame. "To the unprejudiced, the fossil record of plants is in favor of special creation." 3

2. Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field... Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the molecules necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years.

3. The Global Flood... The Biblical record clearly describes a global Flood during Noah's day. Additionally, there are hundreds of Flood traditions handed down through cultures all over the world. 5 M.E. Clark and Henry Voss have demonstrated the scientific validity of such a Flood providing the sedimentary layering we see on every continent. 6 Secular scholars report very rapid sedimentation and periods of great carbonate deposition in earth's sedimentary layers..7 It is now possible to prove the historical reality of the Biblical Flood.8
Polystrate tree fossil, a result of rapid deposition flood sediment.
[link to www.johnpratt.com]

4. Population Statistics...World population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9 The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.

5. Radio Halos...Physicist Robert Gentry has reported isolated radio halos of polonuim-214 in crystalline granite. The half-life of this element is 0.000164 seconds! To record the existence of this element in such short time span, the granite must be in crystalline state instantaneously.10 This runs counter to evolutionary estimates of 300 million years for granite to form.

6. Human Artifacts throughout the Geologic Column...Man-made artifacts - such as the hammer in Cretaceous rock, a human sandal print with trilobite in Cambrian rock, human footprints and a handprint in Cretaceous rock – point to the fact that all the supposed geologic periods actually occurred at the same time in the recent past.11

7. Helium Content in Earth's Atmosphere... Physicist Melvin Cook, found that helium-4 enters our atmosphere from solar wind and radioactive decay of uranium. At present rates our atmosphere would accumulate current helium-4 amounts in less than 10,000 years.12

8. Expansion of Space Fabric...Astronomical estimates of the distance to various galaxies gives conflicting data.13 The Biblical Record refers to the expansion of space by the Creator14. Astrophysicist Russell Humphries demonstrates that such space expansion would dilate time in distant space.15 This could explain a recent creation with great distances to the stars.

9. Design in Living Systems...A living cell is so awesomely complex that its interdependent components stagger the imagination and defy evolutionary explanations. A minimal cell contains over 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations.16 The chance of this assemblage occurring by chance is 1 in 10 4,478,296 .17

10. Design in the Human Brain...The human brain is the most complicated structure in the known universe.18 It contains over 100 billion cells, each with over 50,000 neuron connections to other brain cells.19 This structure receives over 100 million separate signals from the total human body every second. If we learned something new every second of our lives, it would take three million years to exhaust the capacity of the human brain. 20 In addition to conscious thought, people can actually reason, anticipate consequences, and devise plans - all without knowing they are doing so.
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The earth is around 6000 years old,...
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And your evidence for this absurd claim would be what, exactly? The Bible? Do you expect us to believe that the world's biggest liars ever told the truth? Get real.
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The earth is billions of years old...


Mankind is NOT.
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[link to www.answersingenesis.org]
Evidence for a Young World/Universe
by Dr. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D., ICR associate professor of physics

Blah blah blah...
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What extraordinary lengths, and long-winded lies, you go to to try to convince yourself. I can only concluded that you secretly know that the Bible is a pack of lies and must repeat all this garbage 100 times a day to keep the truth at bay.

Genital mutilation is a sex crime. What does make you? A STINKING PERVERT is what.
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The earth is billions of years old...


Mankind is NOT.
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"First European" Confirmed to Be 1.2 Million Years Old
James Owen
for National Geographic News
March 26, 2008
An analysis of an ancient jaw and teeth has confirmed that humans reached Western Europe well over a million years ago, far earlier than previously thought.
Address : < [link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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The earth is significantly older than six millennia.




prove it.

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it's been done countless thousands of times.

Go outside tonight and bathe in the starlight.

It's been measured. All of it.

Can you measure a triangle?

It's really that simple.
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YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR YOUR LACK OF FAITH
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And your evidence for this absurd and hateful fantasy would be what, exactly? Since you are clearly a monster we must already be in 'Hell'.
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These people gave up thinking years ago, or never learned how. They just need someone to tell them what to believe. I guess it saves them some of the frustration that comes from not having all the answers. This is the mindset that makes it possible for the next generation of dictators to thrive.
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The earth is billions of years old...


Mankind is NOT.









"First European" Confirmed to Be 1.2 Million Years Old
James Owen
for National Geographic News
March 26, 2008
An analysis of an ancient jaw and teeth has confirmed that humans reached Western Europe well over a million years ago, far earlier than previously thought.
Address : < [link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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"National Geographic say so" is not evidence. They have been caught presenting Jesuit manufactured hoaxes before.
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The earth is significantly older than six millennia.




prove it.




it's been done countless thousands of times.

Go outside tonight and bathe in the starlight.

It's been measured. All of it.

Can you measure a triangle?

It's really that simple.
 Quoting: LouisWinthorpeIII


The earth does not go around the sun at 60 000 miles an hour
[link to abafte.blogspot.com]

Prove the earth is more than 10000 years old using reproducable testable methods in a lab we can touch, not uniformitarian theory.

Go to the Niagra Falls and measure erosion, measure erosion deposits in the Gulf of Mexico, measure salt in the ocean, all show young earth.
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Measure preasure from oil wells, measure carbon,if the earth wereover 40000 years old there would be no carbon to measure. It would be past the half life of carbon, yet, carbon is found in coal seams, diamonds ect.
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The earth is significantly older than six millennia.




prove it.




it's been done countless thousands of times.

Go outside tonight and bathe in the starlight.

It's been measured. All of it.

Can you measure a triangle?

It's really that simple.


The earth does not go around the sun at 60 000 miles an hour
[link to abafte.blogspot.com]

Prove the earth is more than 10000 years old using reproducable testable methods in a lab we can touch, not uniformitarian theory.

Go to the Niagra Falls and measure erosion, measure erosion deposits in the Gulf of Mexico, measure salt in the ocean, all show young earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390230


Uh how do you think we get probes into space & the planets?

lol tell me in your universe, the earth is a flat disc that the sun (also a flat disc) overs over, right?

Lol!!!!!
"I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln."
-2010
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The earth is significantly older than six millennia.




prove it.




it's been done countless thousands of times.

Go outside tonight and bathe in the starlight.

It's been measured. All of it.

Can you measure a triangle?

It's really that simple.


The earth does not go around the sun at 60 000 miles an hour
[link to abafte.blogspot.com]

Prove the earth is more than 10000 years old using reproducable testable methods in a lab we can touch, not uniformitarian theory.

Go to the Niagra Falls and measure erosion, measure erosion deposits in the Gulf of Mexico, measure salt in the ocean, all show young earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390230


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Why did the bible god make such a small earth?

The other Gods who created the entire Universe are much more powerful than the dinky bible god. He only created earth and a ffew stars.


[link to www.rense.com]












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The earth is significantly older than six millennia.




prove it.




it's been done countless thousands of times.

Go outside tonight and bathe in the starlight.

It's been measured. All of it.

Can you measure a triangle?

It's really that simple.


The earth does not go around the sun at 60 000 miles an hour
[link to abafte.blogspot.com]

Prove the earth is more than 10000 years old using reproducable testable methods in a lab we can touch, not uniformitarian theory.

Go to the Niagra Falls and measure erosion, measure erosion deposits in the Gulf of Mexico, measure salt in the ocean, all show young earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390230


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Why did the bible god make such a small earth?

The other Gods who created the entire Universe are much more powerful than the dinky bible god. He only created earth and a ffew stars.


[link to www.rense.com]












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