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Obama was quite religious in Islam

 
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Obama was 'quite religious in Islam'

JERUSALEM – Was Sen. Barack Obama a Muslim? Did he ever practice Islam?

The presidential candidate officially rejects the claims, but the issue of Obama's personal faith has re-emerged amid conflicting accounts of his enrollment as a Muslim during elementary school in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation.

Widely distributed reports have noted in January 1968, Obama was registered as a Muslim at Jakarta's Roman Catholic Franciscus Assisi Primary School under the name Barry Soetoro. He was listed as an Indonesian citizen whose stepfather, listed on school documents as "L Soetoro Ma," worked for the topography department of the Indonesian Army.

Catholic schools in Indonesia routinely accept non-Catholic students, but exempt them from studying religion. Obama's school documents, though, wrongly list him as being Indonesian.

After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama was enrolled – also as a Muslim, according to documents – in the Besuki Primary School, a public school in Jakarta.
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And the NATION of Islam

Farrakhan hails Obama as 'hope of entire world'
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OP, you are a FUCKING MORON!



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I miss the threads about GWB jacking off in a coffin with a human skeleton (skull and bones iniciation).

They were 100% more entertaining than the BS that is kicked up about Obama....
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George Bush was made a papal knight at Skull n Bones Order of death. The coffin story is just a distraction. Bonesmen are all Roman Catholic.
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What's your excuse for his stuttering retardation?
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Allergies?
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George Bush was made a papal knight at Skull n Bones Order of death. The coffin story is just a distraction. Bonesmen are all Roman Catholic.
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Um...no.

Having known some older Yale grads, it's primarily a WASP institution.
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I miss the threads about GWB jacking off in a coffin with a human skeleton (skull and bones iniciation).

They were 100% more entertaining than the BS that is kicked up about Obama....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387945

It's not really BS. A lot more questions need to asked about this guy given how little we really know about his past.

Read his autobiography, "Dreams of My Father" for some insight into his manipulative psyche.
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I miss the threads about GWB jacking off in a coffin with a human skeleton (skull and bones iniciation).

They were 100% more entertaining than the BS that is kicked up about Obama....

It's not really BS. A lot more questions need to asked about this guy given how little we really know about his past.

Read his autobiography, "Dreams of My Father" for some insight into his manipulative psyche.
 Quoting: Guns n' God


Ahhh what's it matter?! We "elected" a cocaine addicted drunk, who went awol from the military! So what could Obama possibly be hiding that's worse than that?

I think nothing! And until those with IQ's below 90 realize what has happened to the country because of this coke head they "elected" it'll be too late and the one thing they have always feared will come true...full blown military industrial complex that makes Naazi Germany look like Disneyland...
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George Bush was made a papal knight at Skull n Bones Order of death. The coffin story is just a distraction. Bonesmen are all Roman Catholic.

Um...no.

Having known some older Yale grads, it's primarily a WASP institution.
 Quoting: Guns n' God

WASP will not kiss the toe of the pope or pay him any respect. Bonesmen are all papal knights.
"It is perhaps worth noting, in light of George W.'s controversial episode at Bob Jones University and the specter of anti-Catholicism, that at one point in the proceedings every initiate kisses the slippered toe of the "Pope." At last the initiate is formally dubbed a Knight of Eulogia."
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I miss the threads about GWB jacking off in a coffin with a human skeleton (skull and bones iniciation).

They were 100% more entertaining than the BS that is kicked up about Obama....

It's not really BS. A lot more questions need to asked about this guy given how little we really know about his past.

Read his autobiography, "Dreams of My Father" for some insight into his manipulative psyche.


Ahhh what's it matter?! We "elected" a cocaine addicted drunk, who went awol from the military! So what could Obama possibly be hiding that's worse than that?

I think nothing! And until those with IQ's below 90 realize what has happened to the country because of this coke head they "elected" it'll be too late and the one thing they have always feared will come true...full blown military industrial complex that makes Naazi Germany look like Disneyland...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387945

It matters because NATION of Islam was started by the Vatican and both are Mary cults.

GWB is just a puppet for the Vatican, his IQ matters not. Whether Obama is going to merge with the Roman Catholic Marxicans to erect a papal state DOES matter. And the resulting inquisition will matter not only to Protestants but us all. Look what happenedin the French Revolution or Nazi Germany of Yugoslavia or South America. Papal states have a way of ending in totalitarian clusterf*cks of death, a trap.
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I miss the threads about GWB jacking off in a coffin with a human skeleton (skull and bones iniciation).

They were 100% more entertaining than the BS that is kicked up about Obama....

It's not really BS. A lot more questions need to asked about this guy given how little we really know about his past.

Read his autobiography, "Dreams of My Father" for some insight into his manipulative psyche.


Ahhh what's it matter?! We "elected" a cocaine addicted drunk, who went awol from the military! So what could Obama possibly be hiding that's worse than that?

I think nothing! And until those with IQ's below 90 realize what has happened to the country because of this coke head they "elected" it'll be too late and the one thing they have always feared will come true...full blown military industrial complex that makes Naazi Germany look like Disneyland...

It matters because NATION of Islam was started by the Vatican and both are Mary cults.

GWB is just a puppet for the Vatican, his IQ matters not. Whether Obama is going to merge with the Roman Catholic Marxicans to erect a papal state DOES matter. And the resulting inquisition will matter not only to Protestants but us all. Look what happenedin the French Revolution or Nazi Germany of Yugoslavia or South America. Papal states have a way of ending in totalitarian clusterf*cks of death, a trap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397579

Sir, you're insane.

Your paranoia of the Catholic Church is about 400 years out of date.

We aren't anywhere close to papal state and the only Catholic president we've had was assassinated.
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Remarks of Senator Barack Obama
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Sir, you're insane.

Your paranoia of the Catholic Church is about 400 years out of date.

We aren't anywhere close to papal state and the only Catholic president we've had was assassinated.
 Quoting: Guns n' God

You are saying the Order of Death at Yale doesn't exist?
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I'm not buying it.
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Sir, you're insane.

Your paranoia of the Catholic Church is about 400 years out of date.

We aren't anywhere close to papal state and the only Catholic president we've had was assassinated.

You are saying the Order of Death at Yale doesn't exist?
[link to www.needlenose.com]

I'm not buying it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397579

Skull and Bones exists but it's not a Catholic-run organization.
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400 years my big toe, they were running concentration camps in the 1940s Yugoslavia, all of Europe for that matter. The Nazis were place with the Catholic Centre party. Then in the 1970s they disappeared over 100,000 in south america supporting every dictator in S.A. driving the latinos north.

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I miss the threads about GWB jacking off in a coffin with a human skeleton (skull and bones iniciation).

They were 100% more entertaining than the BS that is kicked up about Obama....

It's not really BS. A lot more questions need to asked about this guy given how little we really know about his past.

Read his autobiography, "Dreams of My Father" for some insight into his manipulative psyche.


Ahhh what's it matter?! We "elected" a cocaine addicted drunk, who went awol from the military! So what could Obama possibly be hiding that's worse than that?

I think nothing! And until those with IQ's below 90 realize what has happened to the country because of this coke head they "elected" it'll be too late and the one thing they have always feared will come true...full blown military industrial complex that makes Naazi Germany look like Disneyland...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387945



We're not talkin about Clinton, nimrod.
AS FOR OSAMA-WOOPS-OBAMA
I have said that if algore or clinton was elected I would move to friggin Austrailia,
if this Muslim in sheeps clothing gets elected I FRIGGIN
MEAN IT 5a
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The Catholics had nothing to do with the Nazis, sir.

That's a bunch of bunk.

You, sir, are an anti-Catholic bigot.
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Skull and Bones exists but it's not a Catholic-run organization.
 Quoting: Guns n' God

Tell me another one. The Knights of Malta doesn't exist and the Jesuits are benevolent educators.

Order of Death Knights of Eulogia
One by one, each neophyte is led into the I.T., where he's shoved around to various features of the room, including a picture of Eulogia, and forced to do things such as read a secrecy oath repeatedly, kiss the Pope's foot, and drink "blood" from "the Yorick," a skull container usually holding red Kool-Aid. Finally, the initiate is shoved to his knees in front of Don Quixote as the shrieking crowd falls silent. Quixote taps him on the left shoulder with a sword and says, "By order of our order, I dub thee Knight of Eulogia."
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Tell me another one. The Knights of Malta doesn't exist and the Jesuits are benevolent educators.
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I went to a Catholic high school. The Jesuits are pretty nice people.
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The Catholics had nothing to do with the Nazis, sir.

That's a bunch of bunk.

You, sir, are an anti-Catholic bigot.
 Quoting: Guns n' God

Not bigot, truth.

You are just covering for the criminals making you a traitor. You and those like you should be REMOVED from these shores, permanently.




A) The Catholic Church hierarchy - especially Eugenio Pacelli, before and after he became Pope Pius XII - aided the Nazis. Indeed, Pacelli and the Church played a central role in making Hitler the dictator of Germany.

B) The Catholic Church was active in Nazi movements outside Germany, especially in the Baltic region and in the Balkans, where the Church helped run the Nazi puppet State of Croatia. After the war, the Vatican sheltered Croatian Nazi war criminals.

C) Although at Yad Vashem, Pope John Paul II described the Nazis as having "a Godless ideology," this is not how the Nazis presented themselves or how the Catholic Church described the Nazis when they were in power.


The Social Democrats fiercely opposed the Enabling act. Hitler needed a 2/3 majority, so the balance lay with Zentrum, the Catholic Center Party. Zentrum leader Monsignor Ludwig Kaas, a close friend and advisor to Eugenio Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, addressed the Reichstag. Far from attacking the Enabling act, or disputing Hitler's claim that Nazism was based on Christianity, Kaas called for a 'yes' vote. The Zentrum faction did vote 'yes,' and the act became law. According to National Catholic Reporter correspondent John Allen, a liberal Catholic and student of Vatican history.
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Tell me another one. The Knights of Malta doesn't exist and the Jesuits are benevolent educators.

I went to a Catholic high school. The Jesuits are pretty nice people.
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They certainly did a blinding number on you, just like they did with your brother Georgetown U. grad Bill Clinton.
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The Catholics had nothing to do with the Nazis, sir.

That's a bunch of bunk.

You, sir, are an anti-Catholic bigot.

Not bigot, truth.

You are just covering for the criminals making you a traitor. You and those like you should be REMOVED from these shores, permanently.




A) The Catholic Church hierarchy - especially Eugenio Pacelli, before and after he became Pope Pius XII - aided the Nazis. Indeed, Pacelli and the Church played a central role in making Hitler the dictator of Germany.

B) The Catholic Church was active in Nazi movements outside Germany, especially in the Baltic region and in the Balkans, where the Church helped run the Nazi puppet State of Croatia. After the war, the Vatican sheltered Croatian Nazi war criminals.

C) Although at Yad Vashem, Pope John Paul II described the Nazis as having "a Godless ideology," this is not how the Nazis presented themselves or how the Catholic Church described the Nazis when they were in power.


The Social Democrats fiercely opposed the Enabling act. Hitler needed a 2/3 majority, so the balance lay with Zentrum, the Catholic Center Party. Zentrum leader Monsignor Ludwig Kaas, a close friend and advisor to Eugenio Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, addressed the Reichstag. Far from attacking the Enabling act, or disputing Hitler's claim that Nazism was based on Christianity, Kaas called for a 'yes' vote. The Zentrum faction did vote 'yes,' and the act became law. According to National Catholic Reporter correspondent John Allen, a liberal Catholic and student of Vatican history.
[link to www.tenc.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397579

Well...look... a lot of people from a lot of different countries initially supported Hitler and the Nazis because he was doing a pretty good job rebuilding Germany after WWI.

There was a lot of evil in the world at that time, notably, the communist Stalin-led Russians, who killed a lot more people than Hitler.

History has been written to make Hitler appear as the worst of the worse when it comes to government evil but in reality he was pretty tame in comparison with past and future dictators.
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Tell me another one. The Knights of Malta doesn't exist and the Jesuits are benevolent educators.

I went to a Catholic high school. The Jesuits are pretty nice people.

They certainly did a blinding number on you, just like they did with your brother Georgetown U. grad Bill Clinton.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 397579

Ha!

If Clinton was actually a Catholic, I would completely disassociate myself from the religion.
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Having a Muslim president is no better or worse than having a Christian president. All religion is equally deplorable--I don't discriminate.
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Having a Muslim president is no better or worse than having a Christian president. All religion is equally deplorable--I don't discriminate.
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ohyeah

Just to add, he was a child FFS.

I went to church as a child, I was educated at a religious school. Know why? Because in those days, my parents dictated terms.

It doesn't mean shit.

He's being judged on shit he did before he had a choice in the matter.
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The Catholics had nothing to do with the Nazis, sir.

That's a bunch of bunk.

You, sir, are an anti-Catholic bigot.

Not bigot, truth.

You are just covering for the criminals making you a traitor. You and those like you should be REMOVED from these shores, permanently.




A) The Catholic Church hierarchy - especially Eugenio Pacelli, before and after he became Pope Pius XII - aided the Nazis. Indeed, Pacelli and the Church played a central role in making Hitler the dictator of Germany.

B) The Catholic Church was active in Nazi movements outside Germany, especially in the Baltic region and in the Balkans, where the Church helped run the Nazi puppet State of Croatia. After the war, the Vatican sheltered Croatian Nazi war criminals.

C) Although at Yad Vashem, Pope John Paul II described the Nazis as having "a Godless ideology," this is not how the Nazis presented themselves or how the Catholic Church described the Nazis when they were in power.


The Social Democrats fiercely opposed the Enabling act. Hitler needed a 2/3 majority, so the balance lay with Zentrum, the Catholic Center Party. Zentrum leader Monsignor Ludwig Kaas, a close friend and advisor to Eugenio Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, addressed the Reichstag. Far from attacking the Enabling act, or disputing Hitler's claim that Nazism was based on Christianity, Kaas called for a 'yes' vote. The Zentrum faction did vote 'yes,' and the act became law. According to National Catholic Reporter correspondent John Allen, a liberal Catholic and student of Vatican history.
[link to www.tenc.net]

Well...look... a lot of people from a lot of different countries initially supported Hitler and the Nazis because he was doing a pretty good job rebuilding Germany after WWI.

There was a lot of evil in the world at that time, notably, the communist Stalin-led Russians, who killed a lot more people than Hitler.

History has been written to make Hitler appear as the worst of the worse when it comes to government evil but in reality he was pretty tame in comparison with past and future dictators.
 Quoting: Guns n' God


Stalin Trotsky and Lenon were all in on the globalist conspiracy ran by the Vatican to fulfill the Fatima #2 turning Russia Roman Catholic. They were all Freemason Grand Orient Lodge Illuminati, Jesuit-Templar-Malta ran.

Most all wars come out of the Vatican because it is they who are on a quest to dominate the world, and they have done it. They rule USA, they just haven't ripped the mask off yet, and when they do it is going to be far worse than it is now. Who knows what is going to happen, but Ted Turner's recent comments are telling. And history is an indicator.
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Having a Muslim president is no better or worse than having a Christian president. All religion is equally deplorable--I don't discriminate.
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Jacobin
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Peace.

let me point out that Barack attended these schools when he was what, 5-7 years old? I believe 7 was his oldest age there... that is no different than saying I am a Lutheran because I attended there, by my PARENTS choice, not mine, at that age. I am not a Lutheran now yet am I to be held accountable for the actions of my parents when but a youth?

He has said, repeatedly, that he is a Christian now, are you not willing to accept that he prays to the same God as you "Guns and God" dude???? (and OP)
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...are you not willing to accept that he prays to the same God as you...
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That illustrates just how fucking puerile and idiotic this whole argument is rather beautifully.





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