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How humans are not physically created to eat meat

 
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How humans are not physically created to eat meat
When you look at the comparison between herbivores and humans, we compare much more closely to herbivores than meat eating animals. Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat.

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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Why not argue that we have evolved instead of comparing us to animals? Our nails may as well be used as claws, but aren't because we can use our fingers to tear apart food.

We *cook* our meat.. therefore do not need such tools as do animals. I will continue to eat my pork, beef, chicken, etc.

Mmmmm.. I'm a proud omnivore.
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
it would help reading the link.

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Why not argue that we have evolved instead of comparing us to animals? Our nails may as well be used as claws
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
I'm only going to disagree with things I can prove, such as the claw thing.

But this:

Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat

Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater

Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater


I can't prove because you provide no proof.. like from a biology textbook or whatnot. Don't expect me to know this shit by heart either.

...and yet you're still comparing a human who has a brain (and is able to COOK THEIR MEAT) with a "meat-eater" who is an animal that cannot cook their meat, therefore REQUIRE (as a result of evolution one may argue) very strong stomach acid and other properties for proper and healthy digestion.

I'm not dying from the awesome chicken sandwich I had a few days ago simply because my acid is 20 times weaker than that of a fucking lion.
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
A demonstration of what we... humans do in order to properly eat our... food:



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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.




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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
When you look at the comparison between herbivores and humans, we compare much more closely to herbivores than meat eating animals. Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat.

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 Quoting: ESQ 15341

YeAh tHaTs BolLoCkS!
Humans are designed to eat both meat and veg, thats why we can eat both DuH, Pus evolution kind of disagrees with you what with the canines and the whole spear building and hunting tools thing.
YoU fOrGoT cArRiOn EaTeRs, which is what we are closer to really, in fact I think its fussy fags like you that are the reason most people cant eat raw meat or anything thats not fresh, I mean a croc can eat a rotten chicken a month and be fine where as a cow grazes 24 hours a day.
I blame stupid farmers and FiRe!
TrUsT mE yOu DoNt WaNt To StArT sAyInG hUmAnS aRe NaTuRaL vEgEtArIaNs, because veggies are just prey for more evolved creatures, THE MEAT EATERS !
PrEdAtOrS! (which we most certainly are) have forward pointing eyes and a mind for calculation and anticipation.
Its as cunning as a fox not as stupid as a cow !
Its as strong as a bear and fierce as a lion not as timid as a mouse and docile as a sheep !
If your a pure born natural vegetarian then you are meat.
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.




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... lol, methinks/feels your thinking is clogged with that foot in your mouth.
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foot in mouth? is all thats on your mind? body parts in mouth,,,,.

thats sick
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Give it a rest, you emaciated hippie.
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking.




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your a weak little girl

your a weak little girl

your a weak little girl

your a weak little girl

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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Humans are omnivores you fucking moron. Humans do have claws, the stomach acid thing is an out and out lie, the digestive tract length is bullshit, the tooth thing is a half truth and I didn't bother reading the rest of your bullshit link.
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Then WHY did God make it taste so good?!? wakeup
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Then WHY did God make it taste so good?!? wakeup
 Quoting: Smerk

The ones that scream louder taste better!


>>"Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
>>Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
>>Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater"

The acid strength argument is kind of iffy anyway. Stonger acid had the advantage of dissolving food faster, which might be critical for any hunter, as there are times when food is hit and miss. The faster you digest the stuff, the sooner you can get to stalking your next meal. Plus, you don't want to be in the middle of a hunt and have to take a squat. Tends to throw off your scent a little.

By comparison, herbivores have all day to digest whatever they eat, and when they have to go, they just drop. Humans are similar, we can go whenever we feel like it, food's as easy as the refridge, and we're not hunting, so when it's ready it can come.

Plus, stronger acid isn't always better. Faster, yes, but if you're trying to absorb some nutrients that are quickly destroyed in acid, a slower acid might allow more time for absorbing them.
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Then WHY did God make it taste so good?!? wakeup
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Meat DOESN'T taste good to humans...only to predators. That's why predators can eat meat raw but humans have to burn it and drench it with a variety of seasonings and spices. Animal flesh is abhorrent to the human palate in its natural state (uncooked). Whereas raw fruits and vegetables are delicious. Which should make it clear to most rational human beings that we are NATURALLY vegetarians.
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Then WHY did God make it taste so good?!? wakeup

Meat DOESN'T taste good to humans...only to predators. That's why predators can eat meat raw but humans have to burn it and drench it with a variety of seasonings and spices. Animal flesh is abhorrent to the human palate in its natural state (uncooked). Whereas raw fruits and vegetables are delicious. Which should make it clear to most rational human beings that we are NATURALLY vegetarians.
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Meat doesn't taste good to humans? Maybe you don't like it but there are about 5.9 billion humans who would disagree. Many people eat meat raw or extremely rare and use little or no seasoning. Your argument is almost as retarded as you are.
Look at the human incisor, what was that for? Cutting through branches? Why are human eyes placed on the front of the skull? Vegetarian animals almost ALL have eyes on the sides of their skull for greater field of view in order to avoid predation, predators on the other hand have their eyes mounted in the front for greater depth perception to judge the distance to their prey.
Your arguments are hollow, illogical, and filled with lies.
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Meat doesn't taste good to humans? Maybe you don't like it but there are about 5.9 billion humans who would disagree. Many people eat meat raw or extremely rare and use little or no seasoning. Your argument is almost as retarded as you are.
Look at the human incisor, what was that for? Cutting through branches? Why are human eyes placed on the front of the skull? Vegetarian animals almost ALL have eyes on the sides of their skull for greater field of view in order to avoid predation, predators on the other hand have their eyes mounted in the front for greater depth perception to judge the distance to their prey.
Your arguments are hollow, illogical, and filled with lies.
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Apes have their eyes in the front of their skulls and are vegetarian.

You are being silly with your comment about incisors, just compare the incisors on humans to the incisors on predators, which are the true flesh eaters, and you can see that a flesh eater has incisor designed to kill and tear flesh.

How many people do you know who can eat meat raw compared to the number of people who can eat fruits and vegetables raw. All people can eat fruit raw very few can eat flesh raw, and often those who eat flesh raw do so out of desperate conditions.

If anyone is being illogical and telling stories it isn't me. LOL!
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Human evolution is due in part to eating meat...smarter evolving brains to utilize tools and tactics for hunting...herbivores don't need much brains for grazing...to be fair humans are really omnivores...best for survival and changing conditions....
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Human evolution is due in part to eating meat...smarter evolving brains to utilize tools and tactics for hunting...herbivores don't need much brains for grazing...to be fair humans are really omnivores...best for survival and changing conditions....
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Actually vegetarians have higher IQs. And children who grow up vegetarian are more intelligent than their classmates. [link to www.goveg.com]
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Human evolution is due in part to eating meat...smarter evolving brains to utilize tools and tactics for hunting...herbivores don't need much brains for grazing...to be fair humans are really omnivores...best for survival and changing conditions....


Actually vegetarians have higher IQs. And children who grow up vegetarian are more intelligent than their classmates. [link to www.goveg.com]
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The protien in meat was a major factor in the developement of our brain.
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God built us as predators.... sharp teeth, eyes close together, etc.
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Why are you motherfuckers even arguing as to wtf you enjoy eating? STFU AND GO EAT. Who cares what it is, just enjoy your meal.

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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Human evolution is due in part to eating meat...smarter evolving brains to utilize tools and tactics for hunting...herbivores don't need much brains for grazing...to be fair humans are really omnivores...best for survival and changing conditions....


Actually vegetarians have higher IQs. And children who grow up vegetarian are more intelligent than their classmates. [link to www.goveg.com]

The protien in meat was a major factor in the developement of our brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352419

1rof1 1rof1 That is a myth which, if it were true, then tigers and lions should be more intelligent than apes. Which, obviously, is NOT the case. 1rof1
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Human evolution is due in part to eating meat...smarter evolving brains to utilize tools and tactics for hunting...herbivores don't need much brains for grazing...to be fair humans are really omnivores...best for survival and changing conditions....


Actually vegetarians have higher IQs. And children who grow up vegetarian are more intelligent than their classmates. [link to www.goveg.com]
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Vegetarian children may have higher IQs now...But...in order to get to our present, we had to consume meat to evolve....I like to access that primitive brain as a bow hunter....Using a bow without sights, my primitive brain works well to compensate for windage and drop of the arrow...without thinking...so it is hardwired into us...
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Even when bricks some meat eaters don't get it. 1rof1
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refined, processed carbohydrates and soy products are not good for you because they are not RAW and NATURAL. MEAT is fine for people, the exception being if it's overly cooked/charred.

Prefer medium rare myself.
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Human evolution is due in part to eating meat...smarter evolving brains to utilize tools and tactics for hunting...herbivores don't need much brains for grazing...to be fair humans are really omnivores...best for survival and changing conditions....


Actually vegetarians have higher IQs. And children who grow up vegetarian are more intelligent than their classmates. [link to www.goveg.com]

The protien in meat was a major factor in the developement of our brain.

1rof1 1rof1 That is a myth which, if it were true, then tigers and lions should be more intelligent than apes. Which, obviously, is NOT the case. 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 409450

That's a bad comparison.
Apes had larger brains to begin with.
Using your logic I could say if lions and tigers didn't eat meat they'd be retarded.
Humans are the most sucessful hunters the world has ever seen.
A large brain...opposable thumbs and a the urge to eat blood.
Vegan is a mental choice...I in no way say it's wrong.
I'm just pointing out the path we've taken to get to this point.
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
Abraham, highly respected as a "friend of God"....ate meat, and even served it to the "Lord"

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7 Then he ran to the herd and selected a choice, tender calf and gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it. 8 He then brought some curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree.




Jesus ate fish and at the Passover ate the traditional food, which includes roast lamb...the Priest offered animal sacrifices and ate the "choice" parts and God ordered Abramham to slaughter animals:

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9 So the LORD said to him, "Bring me a heifer, a goat and a ram, each three years old, along with a dove and a young pigeon."

10 Abram brought all these to him, cut them in two and arranged the halves opposite each other; the birds, however, he did not cut in half. 11 Then birds of prey came down on the carcasses, but Abram drove them away.




Paul's words are what the christians believe lifted all Jewish taboos on food...allowing to eat even what they called "unclean"

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Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. Timothy:4, 1-3

in the story of Cain and Able, the offering of meat was accepted and the veggies rejected

Peter was told by the spirit:“Rise, Peter, kill, and eat” (Acts 10:9-13)

“For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs” (Romans 14:2).
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Human evolution is due in part to eating meat...smarter evolving brains to utilize tools and tactics for hunting...herbivores don't need much brains for grazing...to be fair humans are really omnivores...best for survival and changing conditions....


Actually vegetarians have higher IQs. And children who grow up vegetarian are more intelligent than their classmates. [link to www.goveg.com]

The protien in meat was a major factor in the developement of our brain.

1rof1 1rof1 That is a myth which, if it were true, then tigers and lions should be more intelligent than apes. Which, obviously, is NOT the case. 1rof1
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human evolution is due in part to eating FISH and other organisms that are high in the essential fatty acids EPA and DHA... it's why in general, white people have higher IQs then blacks... because they survived much more on fish from lakes and rivers in temperate climates then blacks who mostly ate land animals along with other raw vegetation found in the rainforests which pretty much spread across the entire continent before modern times.
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1rof1 1rof1 That is a myth which, if it were true, then tigers and lions should be more intelligent than apes. Which, obviously, is NOT the case. 1rof1

Using your logic I could say if lions and tigers didn't eat meat they'd be retarded.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352419

Just the opposite. Using my logic...you could say -- If lions and tigers didn't eat meat they would be as intelligent as the apes.

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