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Dalai Lama on CIA Payroll

 
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The Dalai Lama is one of those people I’ve always just sort of uncritically accepted. I never gave him much more thought than being this sort of vaguely pleasant dude with a robe and a smile and a massively successful franchise in contemporary spiritual markets. Recently, I came across some rather public information about him and his past which puts that all in quite a different perspective. He’s a CIA man!

Communist China asserted it’s claim on Tibet in 1950, and for the first few years allowed the Lamas to maintain local control. According to Wikipedia, “Prior to Chinese rule, over 700,000 of Tibet’s population of 1.2 million were in serfdom” - working on lands owned by the lamas, under a feudal society of warlords and even slavery. This system continued for a few years after the Chinese takeover, ruled comfortably by the lamas - that is, until the Chinese instituted a policy of land reform and redistribution in accord with communist principles. Then things started to get hairy:

In 1956 the Dalai Lama, fearing that the Chinese government would soon move on Lhasa, issued an appeal for gold and jewels to construct another throne for himself. This, he argued, would help rid Tibet of “bad omens'’. One hundred and twenty tons were collected. When the Dalai Lama fled to India in 1959, he was preceded by more than 60 tons of treasure.

Makes the esteemed Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, sound slightly less spiritual, doesn’t it? (Here’s a fun photo of the young Dalai Lama feasting beside Mao Zedong)

Anyway, the dam broke in 1959 with an unsuccessful “popular” uprising against the Chinese occupation. This came after several years of CIA-backed training and funding of Tibetan revolutionary forces.

Starting in 1955 the CIA began to build a counter-revolutionary army in Tibet, much like the contras in Nicaragua and, more recently, the financing and training of the KLA in Kosovo.

In the Aug. 16 Newsweek magazine, an article entitled “A secret war on the roof of the world–spooks, monks and the CIA’s covert gamble in Tibet” describes details of the CIA operation from 1957 to 1965.

Similarly, a major article in the Jan. 25, 1997, Chicago Tribune described the special training of Tibetan mercenaries at Camp Hale in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado throughout the 1950s.

These mercenaries were then parachuted into Tibet. According to the famous “Pentagon Papers,” there were at least 700 of these flights in the 1950s. Air Force C-130s were used, as later in Vietnam, to drop ammunition and submachine guns. There were also special bases in Guam and Okinawa for training Tibetan soldiers.

A Vancouver paper continues:

But apparently the guerrilla army never did more than engage in border skirmishing. As early as 1964, in fact, its effectiveness and efficiency were called into question by the CIA, which nevertheless stuck with the plan. Funds to pay this army were funnelled through the Dalai Lama and his organization, which received US$1.7 million a year, later reduced to $1.2 million. (Of this, the Dalai Lama himself was paid $186,000 a year. But no one has ever suggested that he pocketed it. The money was used to operate his exiled government’s offices in Geneva and New York.) The last year in which the stipend was paid out was 1974. By then, of course, U.S. policy had changed to one of embracing China, not antagonizing it.

From Rediff:

Lodi Gyari, the Dalai Lama’s personal representative in Washington, said last week in response to queries from the Times that he had no knowledge of the CIA’s $ 180,000-a-year subsidy or how the money was spent.

“I have no clue whatsoever,” Gyari said. Speaking more generally of the CIA’s past support for the Tibetans, Gyari acknowledged: “It is an open secret. We do not deny it.”

The money for the Tibetans and the Dalai Lama was part of the CIA’s worldwide effort during the height of the Cold War to undermine Communist governments, particularly in the Soviet Union and China. In fact, the US government committee that approved the Tibetan operations also authorised the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, the Times said.

One of the best points in this whole thing though is this:

Puerto Rico has about the same size population as Tibet. Puerto Rico has been a U.S. colony for over 100 years. It has had many great and dynamic leaders. Why aren’t there similar movies, posters and concerts bankrolled for Puerto Rico’s leaders, just to take one example?

You could change Puerto Rico to any other country of your choice. The fact remains that we only support freedom and self-determination when it serves our national interest.


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Hell, the CIA supports alot of individuals and countries that I wish we didn't support.

The Dalai Lama is one that I don't mind supporting.
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Hell, the CIA supports alot of individuals and countries that I wish we didn't support.

The Dalai Lama is one that I don't mind supporting.
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your statement makes 0 fucking sense


hes a paid shill,,, do you want a fucking map?


probally a pedophile aswell
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Right, he's just another political figure.
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'Hello Dalai' - a look at nazi/ss links with Tibetan Buddhism.

Programme notes here:
[link to www.spitfirelist.com]

Audio/MP3 links don't appear to be working so if you wish to go further down this particular rabbit hole, there is a link to the above audio at: www.cloakanddagger.de about 1.5" down on LHS. I highly recommend it....
I was gobsmacked when Dave read about the Kalachakra Mandala which was created in WTC 1 which was then thrown into the Hudson.....6 years (or so) later that buiding was gone.....


This page contains many images mentioned in Dave Emory's presentation.
[link to www.cloakanddagger.de]

snip

"The Secret Truth about The Dalai Lama
(Hitler and the Dalai Lama)
If you have seen the movie, Seven Years in Tibet with Brad Pitt, you might be thinking that Heinrich Harrer was just
another nice mountain climber who just happened to be in Tibet to meet the Dalai Lama by coincidence. Think again as
such is not the case. Heinrich Harrer, journey to meet the Dalai Lama began in Austria, in 1933 when he joined Hitler's
Sturmabteilung (Storm Troopers or SA or Brown Shirts). The SA was Austria's 1930's equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan in
terms of violence against racial minorities. The SA was responsible for organized kidnappings, rapes, beatings and
murders all part of a "spiritual crusade" designed to help Hitler take over Austria. After the Dalai Lama's friend, Heinrich
Harrer helped Hitler take over Austria, Harrer then in 1938, after meeting his hero, Adolph Hitler, decided to also join
the Nazi Shutzstaffel or Deaths Head SS or Death Squads. Harrer was assigned to Squadron 38 with a designation
73896, and was promoted to Oberscharfuehrer (squadron leader). On May 1 the same year, Harrer joined the NSDAP
You don't have to tell people how atrocious Heinrich Harrer's Nazi SS was if they are (the few survivors) from Oradour......"

And from the online book: The Shadow of the Dalai Lama -
[link to www.iivs.de]

Ch 8 - "Magic as a Political Instrument" - (yes, it would appear that the 'deities' in Tantric Buddhism are demons...)

"Since his flight from Tibet (in 1959), the Fourteenth Dalai Lama has negotiated the international political and cultural stage like a sensitive democrat and enlightened man of the world. As a matter of course he lays claim to all the western “virtues” of humanism, freedom of opinion, rational argument, belief in technical and scientific progress, etc. One gains the impression that he is an open-minded and modern president of a modern nation, who masterfully combines his cosmopolitanism with an elevated, spiritually based, ethical system. But this practical, reasoning facade is deceptive. Behind it is hidden a deeply rooted belief in supernatural powers and magic practices which are supposed to exercise a decisive influence upon social and political events.

Invocation of demons

Since time immemorial ritual magic and politics have been one in Tibet. A large proportion of these magic practices are devoted to the annihilation of enemies, and especially to the neutralizing of political opponents. The help of demons was necessary for such ends. And they could be found everywhere — the Land of Snows all but overflowed with terror gods, fateful spirits, vampires, ghouls, vengeful goddesses, devils, messengers of death and similar entities, who, in the words of Matthias Hermanns, “completely overgrow the mild and goodly elements [of Buddhism] and hardly let them reveal their advantages” (Hermanns, 1965, p. 401).


For this reason, invocations of demons were not at all rare occurrences nor were they restricted to the spheres of personal and family life. They were in general among the most preferred functions of the lamas. Hence, “demonology” was a high science taught at the monastic universities, and ritual dealings with malevolent spirits were — as we shall see in a moment — an important function of the lamaist state. [1]"

Sadly, we've been 'had' again with Buddhism being used by 'them' and whilst some of us were 'protesting' in what appears to have been another nwo psyop - our wealth and freedom continued to be stolen from before our eyes...

In Christ

sorry for any mistakes - I'm in a hurry!
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Following on from my last reply - if you read nothing else from the book: The Shadow of the Dalai Lama, Sexuality, Magic and Politics in Tibetan Buddhism (2003), read the contents!


[link to www.iivs.de]



The Shadow of the Dalai Lama – Contents

Victor & Victoria Trimondi



CONTENTS



Introduction: Light and Shadow

Plato’s Cave

Realpolitik and politics of symbols



Part I - Ritual as Politics



1 - Buddhism and Misogyny (historical overview)

The "sacrifice" of Maya: the Buddha legend

The meditative dismemberment of women: Hinayana Buddhism

The transformation of women into men: Mahayana Buddhism



2 - Tantric Buddhism

The explosion of sexus: Vairayana Buddhism

Mystic sexual love between the sexes and cosmogonical eros

The guru as manipulator of the divine

The appropriation of gynergy and androcentric power strategies

The absolute power of the "grand sorcerer" (Maha Siddha)



3 - The “Tantric Female Sacrifice"

The karma mudra: the real woman

The inana mudra: the woman of imagination

Karma mudra vs. inana mudra

The maha mudra: the inner woman

The "Tantric female sacrifice"



4 - The Law of Inversion

The twilight language

Sexual desire

The incest taboo

Eating and drinking impure substances

Necrophilia

Ritual murder

Symbol and reality

Concurrence with the demonic

The aggression of the divine couple

Western criticism



5 - Pure Shaktism and Tantric Feminism, and Alchemy

The gynocentric male sacrifice

The vajra and the double-headed ax

The dakini

Kali as conquered time goddess

The "alchemic female sacrifice"



6 - Kalachakra: The Public and the Secret Initiations

The seven lower public initiations and their symbolic significance

The self-sacrifice of the pupil

The lineage tree

The divine time machine

The four higher "secret" initiations

Sperm and menstruation blood as magic substances

The “Ganachakra" and the four "highest" initiations



7 - Kalachakra: The Inner Processes

The candali: the fire woman

The “drop theory” as an expression of androgyny

Excursus: The mystic female body

The method or the manipulation of the divine



8 - The ADI Buddha: His Mystic Body and his Astral Aspects

The “Power of Ten”: The mystic body of the ADI BUDDHA

The astral-temporal aspects of the ADI BUDDHA

Rahu—the swallower of sun and moon

Kalagni and the doomsday mare

The myth of eternal recurrence



9 - The ADI Buddha: The Mandala Principle and the World Ruler

The Buddhist mandala cosmos

The mandala principle

The Kalachakra sand mandala

The world ruler: The sociopolitical exercise of power by the ADI Buddha

Profane and spiritual power



10 - The Aggressive Myth of Shambhala

Geography of the kingdom of Shambhala

The kings and administration of Shambhala

The “raging wheel turner”: The martial ideology of Shambhala

Lethal war machines

The "final battle"

Buddha versus Allah

The non-Buddhist origins of the Shambhala myth

Evaluation of the Shambhala myth

"Inner" and "outer" Shambhala



11 - The Manipulator of Erotic Love



12 - Epilogue to Part I





Part II - Politics as Ritual



Introduction: Politics as Ritual

Myth and history

The battle of the sexes and history

The sacred kingdom

Eschatology and politics

History and mysticism



1 - The Dalai Lama: Incarnation of the Tibetan Gods

Buddha Amitabha: The sun and light deity

The various masks of Avalokiteshvara

The XIV Dalai Lama as the supreme Kalachakra master

Statements of the XIV Dalai Lama on sexuality and sexual magic



2 - The Dalai Lama (Avalokitshvara) and the Demoness (Srinmo)

The bondage of the earth goddess Srinmo and the history of the origin of Tibet

Why women can’t climb pure crystal mountain

Matriarchy in the Land of Snows?

The western imagination

Women in former Tibetan society

The alchemic division of the feminine: The Tibetan goddesses Palden Lhamo and Tara

Tara—Tibet’s Madonna

The lament of Yeshe Tshogyal

The mythological background to the Tibetan-Chinese conflict: Avalokiteshvara and Guanyin

Wu Zetian (Guanyin) and Songtsen Gampo (Avalokiteshvara)

Ci Xi (Guanyin) and the Thirteenth Dalai Lama (Avalokiteshvara)

Jiang Qing (Guanyin) and the Fourteenth Dalai Lama (Avalokiteshvara)

Feminism and Tantric Buddhism

The XIV Dalai Lama and the question of women's rights



3 - The Foundations of Tibetan Buddhocracy

The history of Buddhist state thought

The Dalai Lama and the Buddhist state are one

The feigned belief of the XVI Dalai Lama in Western democracy

The "Great Fifth" - Absolute Sun Ruler over Tibet

Magic as politics - the magic world of the V Dalai Lama

The predecessors of the V Dalai Lama

The successors of the “Great Fifth”: The Thirteenth and Fourteenth Dalai Lamas

Incarnation and power

The "Great Fifth" and the system of incarnation

The sacred power of the Tibetan kings and it’s conferral upon the Dalai Lamas

The XIV Dalai Lama and the question of incarnation

The introduction of the doctrine of incarnation in the West

The various orders of Tibetan Buddhism (Gelugpa, Kagyüpa, Nyingmapa, Sakyapa, Bön)

Unification of the Tibetan Buddhist Order under the Absolute Reign of the XIV Dalai Lama

The "Karmapa affair"



4 - Social Reality in Ancient Tibet

The Western image of Tibet

The social structure of former Tibet

Tibetan criminal law

Clerical commerce

Political intrigue

More recent developments in the historical image



5 - Buddhocracy and Anarchy - Contradictory or Complementary?

The grand sorcerers (Maha Siddhas)

The anarchistic founding father of Tibetan Buddhism: Padmasambhava,

From anarchy to discipline of the order: the Tilopa lineage

The pre-ordained counter world to the clerical bureaucracy: holy fools

An anarchistic erotic: the VI Dalai Lama

A tantric history of Tibet

Crazy wisdom and the West



6 - Regicide as Lamaism’s Myth of Origin and the Ritual Sacrifice of Tibet

Ritual regicide in the history of Tibet

The Tibetan "scapegoat"

Ritual murder as a current issue among exile Tibetans

The ritual sacrifice of Tibet

Real violence and one’s own imaginings



7 - The War of the Oracle Gods and the Shugden Affair

The Tibetan state oracle

Dorje Shugden—a threat to the XIV Dalai Lama’s life?



8 - Magic as a Political Instrument

Invocation of demons

"Voodoo magic"

Magic wonder weapons

The “Great Fifth” as magician and the XIV Dalai Lama

Mandala politics



9 - The War Gods behind the Mask of Peace

The aggressiveness of the Tibetan tutelary gods (Dharmapalas)

Gesar of Ling - the Tibetan "Siegfried"

The Tibetan warrior kings and the clerical successors

The Dalai Lamas as the supreme war lords

The historical distortion of the "peaceful" Tibetans

Is the XIV Dalai Lama the "greatest living prince of peace"

Tibetan guerrillas and the CIA

Marching music and terror

Political calculation and the Buddhist message of peace

“Buddha has smiled”: The Dalai Lama and the Indian atomic tests



10 - The Spearhead of the Shambhala War: The Mongols

Genghis Khan as a Bodhisattva

The Buddhization of Mongolia

The Mongolian Shambhala myth

Dambijantsan, the bloodthirsty avenging lama

Von Ungern Sternberg: The “Order of Buddhist Warriors”

The XIV Dalai Lama and Mongolia



11 - The Shambhala Myth and the West

The Shambhala missionary Agvan Dorjiev

Bolshevik Buddhism

The Kalachakra temple in St. Petersburg

Madame Blavatsky and the Shambhala myth

Nicholas Roerich and the Kalachakra Tantra

The “Shambhala Warrior” Chögyam Trungpa

Other Western Shambhala visions

The XIV Dalai Lama and the Shambhala myth



12 - Fascist Occultism and it’s Close Relationship to Buddhist Tantrism

The Fourteenth Dalai Lama’s national socialist friends

The Nazi–Tibet connection

Julius Evola: A fascist Tantric

Miguel Serrano: The Dalai Lama’s “friend” and chief ideologist of “esoteric Hitlerism”

The former SS-man Heinrich Harrer: teacher of the XIV Dalai Lama

Julius Evola: the "Tantric" advisor of Benito Mussolini

Miguel Serrano: "friend" of the Dalai Lama and chief ideologist of "esoteric Hitlerism"



13 - The Japanese Doomsday Guru Shoko Asahara and XIV Dalai Lama

Shoko Asahara’s relationship to the XIV Dalai Lama

The staged Shambhala war

The sect’s system of rituals is Tantric Buddhist

Asahra’s Gods

The Japanese Chakravartin

Murder, violence and religion

The Japanese Armageddon

Religion and chemical laboratories

The song of Sarin

The international contacts

The two different brothers



14 - China’s Metaphysical Rivalry with Tibet

Mao Zedong: the red sun

The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution

The “deification” of Mao Zedong

Mao Zedong's "Tantric practices"

A spiritual rivalry between the Fourteenth Dalai Lama and Mao Zedong?

The post-Mao era in Tibet

A pan-Asian vision of the Kalachakra Tantra

Taiwan: a springboard for Tibetan Buddhism and the XIV Dalai Lama?

Are the Chinese interested in the Shambhala myth?



15 - The Buddhocratic Conquest of the West

Robert A. Thurman: “The academic godfather of the Tibetan cause”

The stolen revolution

Thurman’s forged history

A worldwide Buddhocracy

Tibet a land of enlightenment?

Thurman as “high priest” of the Kalachakra Tantra



16 - Tactics, Strategies, Forgeries, Illusions

The "Tibet lobby"

The manipulation of the "Greens"

The illusory world of interreligious dialog and the ecumenical movement

Modern science and Tantric Buddhism

Buddhist cosmogony and the postmodern world view

The yogi as computer

Hollywood and Tantric Buddhism



17 - Conclusion

The atavistic pattern of Tibetan Buddhism

Clash of Religions: the fundamentalistic contribution of Lamaism

Return to rationalism?



Postscript: Creative Polarity beyond Tantrism



References



Annex: Critical Forum Kalachakra Tantra



Glossary
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I,ve never embraced the Dalai Lama. He's too popular, gets too much media attention. I don't trust anyone who seeks this attention or does official visits. A true spiritual leader doesn't need to do this and acts silently and covertly. Actually, I think he's full of shit.
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Why doesnt he go back to Tibet to face the music, surely if hes arrested by the chinese, the world would not stand for it. Why doesnt he make a stand for what he believes in, instead of hiding out.
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your statement makes 0 fucking sense


hes a paid shill,,, do you want a fucking map?


probally a pedophile aswell
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You always interact with a woman this way?

So you read something on the internet and therefore it's true???

Expound on you experience & comprehension of international politics,while we're at it why not a summary of your understanding of geopolitics.

Do you Loathe the United States that much?

Are you an American or a Chinese OP?


Learn how to "Talk" with a woman.
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I,ve never embraced the Dalai Lama. He's too popular, gets too much media attention. I don't trust anyone who seeks this attention or does official visits. A true spiritual leader doesn't need to do this and acts silently and covertly. Actually, I think he's full of shit.
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iamwith

Indeed he is nicely playing out his cards with some help or could it be that people in the background with an agenda against China are using their asset and are playing him out?
I guess the latter.
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Hell, the CIA supports alot of individuals and countries that I wish we didn't support.

The Dalai Lama is one that I don't mind supporting.
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same here.... anme calling does not make it real either.

they have a legitament fight for their lands, like all small groups find today. This post is mostly spin, and some truth....
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that's one crazy conspiracy theory. you're insane
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1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 If that don't beat all! The Dalai Lama is a CIA agent.

The CIA is a satanic terrorist organization that spreads violenc and bloodshed all over the world, and the Dalai Lama is one of them. Yet this man presents himself as a man of peace. tsk tsk tsk.
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AC411678 said:
"The CIA is a satanic terrorist organization that spreads violenc and bloodshed all over the world, and the Dalai Lama is one of them. Yet this man presents himself as a man of peace. tsk tsk tsk."

Yes, this agenda has served the 'global controllers' very well since Sumer and Babylon, through Egypt, the Roman Empire etc - through civilisation after civilisation, they infiltrate all organisations and control both sides through money in particular, never the front-men but always behind the scenes throughout.

I invite you to listen and read the links posted earlier in this thread. I was as surprised as you are that the DL is not what he seems.

Please listen to the second half of the Dave Emory mp3 where it talks about the Kalachakra Tantra Mandala - the mandala is a kind of 'demon house' - and one was 'constructed' in the lobby of WTC 1 a few years prior to 911 and then watch Leo Zagami at www.projectcamelot.org where he talks about demonic entities. Do some research on John Dee, astrologer to QE1 and he documented his conversations with other dimensional entities. 'Goetia' are writings which detail how to summon jinn/djinn/genie/demons/deities/'gods' - you will find many of them on wikipedia.

Did you think that those who would 'rule the world' could do it simply by duping us - well, that as well - but they are assisted by other dimensional entities - popularly known as demons but apparently aka ufo's, aliens, ET's etc.

In Christ.
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I guess that makes sense.
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I never completely trusted the Dalai Lama, but nonetheless, considered him mostly benign, except after reading this little bit here:

[link to www.iivs.de]
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Hell, the CIA supports alot of individuals and countries that I wish we didn't support.

The Dalai Lama is one that I don't mind supporting.



your statement makes 0 fucking sense


hes a paid shill,,, do you want a fucking map?


probally a pedophile aswell
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read his books.. he is one smart cookie, and not a 'shill' as others are
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So is Alan Hobson - on the CIA payroll.

Death Zone Gigolo.
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1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 If that don't beat all! The Dalai Lama is a CIA agent.

The CIA is a satanic terrorist organization that spreads violenc and bloodshed all over the world, and the Dalai Lama is one of them. Yet this man presents himself as a man of peace. tsk tsk tsk.
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keep thinking that asshole


fucking sheep
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The CIA in TIBET

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Now, when I see the Dalai Lama, I think of the theme music from Goldfinger.
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Potentially Massive Oil and Gas Find in Tibet
Stratfor
September 5, 2001

Chinese researchers have discovered massive new gas and oil deposits totaling an estimated 4 billion to 5.4 billion tons in Tibet in southwestern China, the newspaper China Daily reported. The estimates, though tentative, will likely aid China's attempts to increase foreign interest and investment in its western regions, which in turn will strengthen Beijing's control across the country.

The estimate of the deposits' size is highly speculative, however, and more exploration will be necessary to determine the true volume. Beijing likely exaggerated the total in an effort to encourage foreign companies to invest in oil exploration and infrastructure in western China, as this would aid its controversial "Go West" development program. By attracting more foreign money for the program, Beijing could silence angry voices in eastern China as well as tighten its grip on the western regions.The Qiantang deposits, if estimates are accurate, represent a mother lode of oil and gas. They potentially would attract greater investment from firms such as British Petroleum, ENI/Agip of Italy, ExxonMobil, Gazprom and Stroitransgaz of Russia, and Royal Dutch/Shell. Those companies already are considering participating in a pipeline project extending from the northwestern province of Xinjiang to Shanghai.

The estimated size of the Qiantang deposits stems from geologic age. A field research team from Chengdu University of Science and Technology collected oil shale samples from Qiantang in July 2000, according to the China Daily. Lab research dated the geologic age of the shale at 180 million years, indicating the likelihood of oil in the basin.

Should further exploration prove the government's estimates correct, the Qiantang field would be one of the world's largest petroleum reserves. Four billion to 5.4 billion tons of oil translates to 28 billion to 37.8 billion barrels. By comparison, the world's largest oil field, Saudi Arabia's Ghawar reserve, produces 70 billion to 85 billion barrels. Kazakhstan's Kashagan oil field, another mega-deposit, contains an estimated 10 billion to 30 billion recoverable barrels.

Proving or disproving the government's estimates will take time. But Beijing has several political reasons to announce the possibility of such large oil and gas deposits now.

The Qiantang discovery has the potential to bring in more funding for Beijing's "Go West" scheme. Western China, including disputed Tibet, is a vast, sparsely populated region that has been increasingly left behind by economic success in eastern China. The development project would extend vital infrastructure to Tibet and Xinjiang, where separatist sentiments have erupted.

The program calls for constructing 31,988 miles of new roads, including a 790-mile expressway from Sichuan to Guangxi, and 2,469 miles of new railroad. One of the railroads will run 600 miles from Golmud, in Qinghai province, to Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, and could cost $3 billion. These projects will coincide with the building of new factories, dams, mining facilities and oil and gas pipelines.

The western development effort has run up against international opposition, however, particularly from pro-Tibetan independence groups. For example, non-governmental organizations and government officials dissuaded the World Bank from granting China a $40 million loan. The loan would have helped to relocate 58,000 Chinese farmers to Tibet's Tsaidam basin.

If Beijing opts to fund the plan domestically, much of the money would have to come from the east because Tibet and its neighboring provinces generate the lowest gross domestic product per capita in China. But sources, including those at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing, confirm that local and regional governments of coastal provinces are increasingly disenchanted with the central government redirecting their tax payments.

The Qiantang discovery conceivably could resolve that problem and others for Beijing. For example, should foreign oil and gas companies choose to exploit the reserve, greater investments -- in roads, technology, grocery stores, schools and hospitals -- would likely follow. That money would relieve the funding burden borne by eastern China and eventually help erase the wealth gap in the west, likely quelling separatist sentiments as well.

Meanwhile, China's lucrative natural resources in the west are gaining international investment and political support, regardless of the accuracy of its oil and gas reserve estimates in the Qiantang basin. Already, BP has invested $578 million in Chinese oil company PetroChina, and along with ENI/Agip, is aiding its drilling on the Tibetan plateau.

One of the newer planned projects involving foreign companies is a 2,593-mile gas pipeline that will run from Xinjiang, in northwestern China, to Shanghai. The pipeline will cost around $14 billion. Companies that might participate include BP, ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, Gazprom and Stroitransgaz.
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Now, when I see the Dalai Lama, I think of the theme music from Goldfinger.
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Hell, the CIA supports alot of individuals and countries that I wish we didn't support.

The Dalai Lama is one that I don't mind supporting.



your statement makes 0 fucking sense


hes a paid shill,,, do you want a fucking map?


probally a pedophile aswell

read his books.. he is one smart cookie, and not a 'shill' as others are
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oh you mean smart like einstein, where his wife wrote all his shit

oh yea, that one

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Interesting read! I've always liked the Dalai Lama & Tibet, & have had an interest in Buddhism in general.. but after reading this.. I'm beginning to realize why the Chinese are so keen on taking over the Tibet region.
I had a 'gut' feeling.. the Dalai Lama wasn't all he was making out to be. He does court the media & world politicians a lot.. a lot..! for a 'spiritual' leader at least.
I do agree with the China on one thing they've quoted as saying.. "That religion is EVIL.." I fully agree with the Chinese on that. I think the Chinese are doing a brilliant job at the moment with their infrastructure & economic development. We've been protesting at the so called Chinese abuses of human rights.. & quite rightly so too.. BUT.. having said.. that.. Are the Chinese any worse than anyone else? In fact, they probably have more.. rights in that country.. than in most countries at present. I was watching some programs on Tibet, to find the Tibetan leadership are also guilty of human rights violations against their own people. Maybe the Chinese are just trying to help the ordinary Tibetans by improving their lot, & taking them away from out dated & restrictive 'religious' practices. The ONLY ONE Tibetan 'practice' I have personally found 'helpful' is the mediation 'breathing' exercises, I found them very helpful. The Chinese use a strictly NON RELIGIOUS form of breathing meditation with their daily exercises & diets.
I do admire the original Buddha.. & his teachings.. but like everything else .. 'mortal men & demonic interests' have corrupted an innocent 'child inquisitive' quest for truth & understanding of the world/universe around & within us.
From the documentaries I watched, it was obvious.. that Tibet is corrupt, with no personal freedom of expression or rights for the individual, forced to adhere to local customs and so called traditions. For instance, parents selling their 11 year old daughter into an arranged marriage with a man in his 50s, who treats her worse than a dog. Very sad!
Maybe the Dalai Lama should go back to Tibet & face the Chinese, instead of hiding like a fugitive, especially if he's been involved in clandestine political corruption.

It's fantastic.. if there 'really' are oil deposits lying under eastern China & Tibet, which would benefit everyone in the region. Both the Tibetan & Chinese authorities have to give way, let people have more say/freedom, exploring and exploiting whatever natural resources they can. Wouldn't it be fantastic if the Chinese built oil, water & gas pipelines across the region, allowing the building of new motorway & train links? And to be honest, us in the West are very hypocritical to condemn Chinese human rights, when we can't get our human rights in order. As usual, the news media put on a lot of 'spin' on a story, showing close-up video footage.. then crying foul about one side against the other. The reality is.. is that both sides are as bad as each other at the end of the day.
Let's hope the Olympics can bring something 'positive' out of all this.
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The Role of the CIA: Behind the Dalai Lama's Holy Cloak

by Michael Backman
Global Research, March 23, 2008
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Global Research Editor's note

This incisive article by Michael Backman outlines the relationship of the Dalai Lama and his organization to US intelligence.

The Dalai Lama has been on the CIA payroll since the late 1950s. He is an instrument of US intelligence.

An understanding of this longstanding relationship to the CIA is essential, particuarly in the light of recent events. In all likelihood US intelligence was behind the protest movement, organized to occur a few months prior to the Beijing Olympic games.

M. C. 23 March 2008

Rarely do journalists challenge the Dalai Lama.

Partly it is because he is so charming and engaging. Most published accounts of him breeze on as airily as the subject, for whom a good giggle and a quaint parable are substitutes for hard answers. But this is the man who advocates greater autonomy for millions of people who are currently Chinese citizens, presumably with him as head of their government. So, why not hold him accountable as a political figure?

No mere spiritual leader, he was the head of Tibet's government when he went into exile in 1959. It was a state apparatus run by aristocratic, nepotistic monks that collected taxes, jailed and tortured dissenters and engaged in all the usual political intrigues. (The Dalai Lama's own father was almost certainly murdered in 1946, the consequence of a coup plot.)

The government set up in exile in India and, at least until the 1970s, received $US1.7 million a year from the CIA.

The money was to pay for guerilla operations against the Chinese, notwithstanding the Dalai Lama's public stance in support of non-violence, for which he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989.

The Dalai Lama himself was on the CIA's payroll from the late 1950s until 1974, reportedly receiving $US15,000 a month ($US180,000 a year).

The funds were paid to him personally, but he used all or most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities, principally to fund offices in New York and Geneva, and to lobby internationally.

Details of the government-in-exile's funding today are far from clear. Structurally, it comprises seven departments and several other special offices. There have also been charitable trusts, a publishing company, hotels in India and Nepal, and a handicrafts distribution company in the US and in Australia, all grouped under the government-in-exile's Department of Finance.

The government was involved in running 24 businesses in all, but decided in 2003 that it would withdraw from these because such commercial involvement was not appropriate.

Several years ago, I asked the Dalai Lama's Department of Finance for details of its budget. In response, it claimed then to have annual revenue of about $US22 million, which it spent on various health, education, religious and cultural programs.

The biggest item was for politically related expenditure, at $US7 million. The next biggest was administration, which ran to $US4.5 million. Almost $US2 million was allocated to running the government-in-exile's overseas offices.

For all that the government-in-exile claims to do, these sums seemed remarkably low.

It is not clear how donations enter its budgeting. These are likely to run to many millions annually, but the Dalai Lama's Department of Finance provided no explicit acknowledgment of them or of their sources.

Certainly, there are plenty of rumours among expatriate Tibetans of endemic corruption and misuse of monies collected in the name of the Dalai Lama.

Many donations are channelled through the New York-based Tibet Fund, set up in 1981 by Tibetan refugees and US citizens. It has grown into a multimillion-dollar organisation that disburses $US3 million each year to its various programs.

Part of its funding comes from the US State Department's Bureau for Refugee Programs.

Like many Asian politicians, the Dalai Lama has been remarkably nepotistic, appointing members of his family to many positions of prominence. In recent years, three of the six members of the Kashag, or cabinet, the highest executive branch of the Tibetan government-in-exile, have been close relatives of the Dalai Lama.

An older brother served as chairman of the Kashag and as the minister of security. He also headed the CIA-backed Tibetan contra movement in the 1960s.

A sister-in-law served as head of the government-in-exile's planning council and its Department of Health.

A younger sister served as health and education minister and her husband served as head of the government-in-exile's Department of Information and International Relations.

Their daughter was made a member of the Tibetan parliament in exile. A younger brother has served as a senior member of the private office of the Dalai Lama and his wife has served as education minister.

The second wife of a brother-in-law serves as the representative of the Tibetan government-in-exile for northern Europe and head of international relations for the government-in-exile. All these positions give the Dalai Lama's family access to millions of dollars collected on behalf of the government-in-exile.

The Dalai Lama might now be well-known but few really know much about him. For example, contrary to widespread belief, he is not a vegetarian. He eats meat. He has done so (he claims) on a doctor's advice following liver complications from hepatitis. I have checked with several doctors but none agrees that meat consumption is necessary or even desirable for a damaged liver.

What has the Dalai Lama actually achieved for Tibetans inside Tibet?

If his goal has been independence for Tibet or, more recently, greater autonomy, then he has been a miserable failure.

He has kept Tibet on the front pages around the world, but to what end? The main achievement seems to have been to become a celebrity. Possibly, had he stayed quiet, fewer Tibetans might have been tortured, killed and generally suppressed by China.

In any event, the current Dalai Lama is 72 years old. His successor — a reincarnation — will be appointed as a child and it will be many years before he plays a meaningful role. As far as China is concerned, that is one problem that will take care of itself, irrespective of whether or not John Howard or Kevin Rudd meet the current Dalai Lama.

michaelbackman@yahoo.com,

www.michaelbackman.com


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