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Why Christians are smart
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 249755 4/10/2008 7:25 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | add in there visiting those in hospitals and prisons.
where is the huge salt of the earth and light on the hill if you're more concerned with what visions and such you may have?
don't get it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412861 4/10/2008 7:25 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | Because following God (Jesus) is a very smart thing to do. Life just keeps getting better for those who follow the Almighty. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 254942 4/10/2008 7:25 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | You mean why REAL Christians are smart?
If you are referring to the half wits that fill the voting booths to bring about the false pre-trib "rapture"; you are only aiding satan in his ploy to bring down all christians.
Real Christians fight the system, not join it's satanic ways. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412873 4/10/2008 7:27 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Christians have been getting saved and filled with the holy spirit of Jesus for almost 2000 years since the Book of Acts 2:1-.Millions of people since then have been getting words,visions,gifts of the spirit,supernatural revelation,impartations...and we really dont expect those who havent to believe it until it happens to you.Jesus said you wouldnt beleive unless you see it.But greater are they who beleive by faith he said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 410944
what is being saved mean? |
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Wingedlion User ID: 412782 4/10/2008 7:27 PM
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What if i said I want nothing to do with jesus. I love god but
I am a jew and jesus is nothing more than a man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 410574
Quote from Jesus: I am the way, the truth, and the light, no man comes to the Father, but by me."
"He came unto his own, but his own knew him not."
Jesus primarily came to the Jews to show them salvation and to be "The lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world." as John the Baptist proclaimed, but the Jews rejected Him and so Salvation was given to the gentiles to make the Jews Jealous.
You can be as religious as you want to be, but you will not inherite the kingdom of God and you will never be able to reach your full spiritual potential without Jesus Christ. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 410944 (OP) 4/10/2008 7:29 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Christians have been getting saved and filled with the holy spirit of Jesus for almost 2000 years since the Book of Acts 2:1-.Millions of people since then have been getting words,visions,gifts of the spirit,supernatural revelation,impartations...and we really dont expect those who havent to believe it until it happens to you.Jesus said you wouldnt beleive unless you see it.But greater are they who beleive by faith he said.
but have they been feeding the hungry?
clothing the naked?
taking care of the widows and orphans?
housing the homeless?
doesn't matter if they think they have the words/visions/gifts/supernatural anythings if they're not doing their real job. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 249755
Thats right.Jesus said to do those things an I do.The gifts though is what Jesus said many would have to see before they believe.Thats why I said it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 410944 (OP) 4/10/2008 7:31 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Christians have been getting saved and filled with the holy spirit of Jesus for almost 2000 years since the Book of Acts 2:1-.Millions of people since then have been getting words,visions,gifts of the spirit,supernatural revelation,impartations...and we really dont expect those who havent to believe it until it happens to you.Jesus said you wouldnt beleive unless you see it.But greater are they who beleive by faith he said.
what is being saved mean? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 412873
It means to have your sins washed away an to have eternal life in heaven.
If you want to know if Jesus is real,all you have to do is ask him with a pure heart to come into your life an reveal himself to you in a supernatural way with the filling of the holy spirit and walking in signs an wonders. |
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Ebug User ID: 303149 4/10/2008 7:36 PM
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 311438 4/10/2008 7:37 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | Is it smart to acknowledge your Creator?
Proverbs 3:5-6
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
1 Sam 2:30
...for those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me shall be lightly esteemed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412861 4/10/2008 7:41 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | Christians are smart enough to recognize the great value in the treasures of God which last forever, and do not pass away like worldly things do. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 410944 (OP) 4/10/2008 7:48 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Is it smart to acknowledge your Creator?
Proverbs 3:5-6
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
1 Sam 2:30
...for those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me shall be lightly esteemed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 311438
Great Word.I would recomend Proverbs and Psalms to everybody,right after the Gospels an the book of Acts of course. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 410944 (OP) 4/10/2008 8:01 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Christians are smart enough to recognize the great value in the treasures of God which last forever, and do not pass away like worldly things do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 412861
Proverbs 3:1-14-15-35
14 better than silver or gold.
15 more precious than rubies...
Isaiah 61:1 The spirit of the lord is upon me because the Lord has annointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek.He hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted,to proclaim liberty to the captives,and the opening of the prison to them that are bound.
Jesus loved Isaiah and taught from this chapter and verse.
Mathew 8 Blessed are the pure in heart,for they shall see God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 410944 (OP) 4/10/2008 8:09 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | Read John chapters 14,15,and 16.It is only 3 pages an it can change your life,forever.
Christians dont chose God,God chose them.
John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me,but I have chosen you,and ordained you,... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412888 4/10/2008 8:34 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | Many are called, but few chosen.
Some are so evil, that God just turns them over to their own reprobate mind, and let's Satan have his way with them.
Seems to be what they want. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412888 4/10/2008 8:36 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | ~Winged Lion~
Are you aware that your avatar is loaded with chemtrails? |
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anonymous coward User ID: 394969 4/10/2008 8:45 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Because following God (Jesus) is a very smart thing to do. Life just keeps getting better for those who follow the Almighty. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 412861
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Your almighty is a nobody. There is no god fface. I challenge you christers to drag your sorry assed god down here to face the music.
Your scumbag god is a nothing. It will never show up, because it isnt there.
It's a big zero. Less than nothing.
A boil on the ass of christers. YOur religion and your god are for dim wits just like you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412870 4/10/2008 8:48 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Read John chapters 14,15,and 16.It is only 3 pages an it can change your life,forever.
Christians dont chose God,God chose them.
John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me,but I have chosen you,and ordained you,... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 410944
God Chooses those who follow Him as all men have a choice, of whether or not to follow God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 410944 (OP) 4/10/2008 8:50 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Because following God (Jesus) is a very smart thing to do. Life just keeps getting better for those who follow the Almighty.
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Your almighty is a nobody. There is no god fface. I challenge you christers to drag your sorry assed god down here to face the music.
Your scumbag god is a nothing. It will never show up, because it isnt there.
It's a big zero. Less than nothing.
A boil on the ass of christers. YOur religion and your god are for dim wits just like you. Quoting: anonymous coward 394969
Listen to the demon scream lmao you are proof that not only is there a God but also a satan. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 410944 (OP) 4/10/2008 8:54 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Read John chapters 14,15,and 16.It is only 3 pages an it can change your life,forever.
Christians dont chose God,God chose them.
John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me,but I have chosen you,and ordained you,...
God Chooses those who follow Him as all men have a choice, of whether or not to follow God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 412870
Thats not what the word says.God chose us before the beginning of time,and he knew whom he called an ordained before we were in our mothers womb.Jeremiah chapter 1.If you can show me your statement somewhere in the word then thanks.Otherwise... |
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anonymous coward User ID: 394969 4/10/2008 8:56 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Because following God (Jesus) is a very smart thing to do. Life just keeps getting better for those who follow the Almighty.
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Your almighty is a nobody. There is no god fface. I challenge you christers to drag your sorry assed god down here to face the music.
Your scumbag god is a nothing. It will never show up, because it isnt there.
It's a big zero. Less than nothing.
A boil on the ass of christers. YOur religion and your god are for dim wits just like you.
Listen to the demon scream lmao you are proof that not only is there a God but also a satan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 410944
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If you have a god asshole, prove it! Get his sick ass down here. I have been calling your crazy bible gods ass out for 40 years.
Your god simply doesn't exist. There are no demons or devils eithter MF. You stupid fucking chirsters are on your own. |
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Smerk  User ID: 412905 4/10/2008 8:56 PM
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412861 4/10/2008 9:08 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Many are called, but few chosen.
Some are so evil, that God just turns them over to their own reprobate mind, and let's Satan have his way with them.
Seems to be what they want. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 412888
One of them showed up at 8:45...AC 394969. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412870 4/10/2008 9:10 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Because following God (Jesus) is a very smart thing to do. Life just keeps getting better for those who follow the Almighty.
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Your almighty is a nobody. There is no god fface. I challenge you christers to drag your sorry assed god down here to face the music.
Your scumbag god is a nothing. It will never show up, because it isnt there.
It's a big zero. Less than nothing.
A boil on the ass of christers. YOur religion and your god are for dim wits just like you.
Listen to the demon scream lmao you are proof that not only is there a God but also a satan.
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If you have a god asshole, prove it! Get his sick ass down here. I have been calling your crazy bible gods ass out for 40 years.
Your god simply doesn't exist. There are no demons or devils eithter MF. You stupid fucking chirsters are on your own. Quoting: anonymous coward 394969
Just know, one day you'll get your wish. But I see that it may not be a pleasant meeting for you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 364863 4/10/2008 9:13 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | Have you suspended your critical thinking for a fairy tale? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 412861 4/10/2008 9:18 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
Have you suspended your critical thinking for a fairy tale? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 364863
No. |
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Rota User ID: 409986 4/10/2008 9:44 PM
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anonymous coward User ID: 394969 4/10/2008 9:49 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | CHRISTIANS ARE PEDOPHILES.
Sex abuse spans spectrum of churches
By Mark Clayton | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant, and most of the alleged abusers are not clergy or staff, but church volunteers.
These are findings from national surveys by Christian Ministry Resources (CMR), a tax and legal-advice publisher serving more than 75,000 congregations and 1,000 denominational agencies nationwide.
CMR's annual surveys of about 1,000 churches nationwide have asked about sexual abuse since 1993. They're a remarkable window on a problem that lurked largely in the shadows of public awareness until the Catholic scandals arose.
The surveys suggest that over the past decade, the pace of child-abuse allegations against American churches has averaged 70 a week. The surveys registered a slight downward trend in reported abuse starting in 1997, possibly a result of the introduction of preventive measures by churches.
"I think the CMR numbers are striking, yet quite reasonable," says Anson Shupe, anIndiana University professor who's written books about church abuse. "To me it says Protestants are less reluctant to come forward because they don't put their clergy on as high a pedestal as Catholics do with their priests."
At least 70 incidents a week
Dr. Shupe suggests the 70 allegations-per-week figure actually could be higher, because underreporting is common. He discovered this in 1998 while going door to door in Dallas-Ft. Worth communities where he asked 1,607 families if they'd experienced abuse from those within their church. Nearly 4 percent said they had been victims of sexual abuse by clergy. Child sexual abuse was part of that, but not broken out, he says.
James Cobble, executive director of CMR, who oversees the survey, says the data show that child sex-abuse happens broadly across all denominations– and that clergy aren't the major offenders.
"The Catholics have gotten all the attention from the media, but this problem is even greater with the Protestant churches simply because of their far larger numbers," he says.
Of the 350,000 churches in the US, 19,500 – 5 percent – are Roman Catholic. Catholic churches represent a slightly smaller minority of churches in the CMR surveys which aren't scientifically random, but "representative" demographic samples of churches, Dr. Cobble explains.
Since 1993, on average about 1 percent of the surveyed churches reported abuse allegations annually. That means on average, about 3,500 allegations annually, or nearly 70 per among the predominantly Protestant group, Cobble says.
The CMR findings also reveal:
• Most church child-sexual-abuse cases involve a single victim.
• Law suits or out-of-court settlements were a result in 21 percent of the allegations reported in the 2000 survey.
• Volunteers are more likely than clergy or paid staff to be abusers. Perhaps more startling, children at churches are accused of sexual abuse as often as are clergy and staff. In 1999, for example, 42 percent of alleged child abusers were volunteers – about 25 percent were paid staff members (including clergy) and 25 percent were other children.
Still, it is the reduction of reported allegations over nine years that seems to indicate that some churches are learning how to slow abuse allegations with tough new prevention measures, say insurance company officials and church officials themselves.
The peak year for allegations was 1994, with 3 percent of churches reporting an allegation of sexual misconduct compared with just 0.1 percent in 2000. But 2001 data, indicates a swing back to the 1 percent level, still significantly less than the 1993 figures, Cobble says.
Child sexual-abuse insurance claims have slowed, too, industry sources say.
Hugh White, vice president of marketing for Brotherhood Mutual Insurance, in Ft. Wayne, Ind., suggests that the amount of abuse reported in the CMR 2001 data is reasonable though "at the higher end" of the scale.
Mr. White's company insures 30,000 churches – about 0.2 percent to 0.3 percent of which annually report an "incident" of child sexual abuse. But he says that his churches are more highly educated on child abuse prevention procedures than most, which may account for a lower rate of reported abuse than the CMR surveys.
What all the data show is a settling that followed "a large spike" in the frequency and severity of church sexual misconduct claims from the mid-1980s, White says.
"Church insurance carriers implemented educational programs and policies that have helped decrease and then stabilize the trend," agrees Jan Beckstrom, chief operating officer for the church insurer GuideOne Insurance in West Des Moines, Iowa.
CMR surveys also show many smaller churches have lagged in starting such programs, while larger churches with more resources and management controls have led the way. And for good reason: They have more to lose, and a larger abuse problem.
"I don't know of a church that isn't doing this," says Simeon May, of the Richardson, Tex.-based National Association of Church Business Administration, which gives training for large churches with administrators.
At Grace Community Church in Tempe, Ariz., the executive pastor, Gary Maitha, says his church has adopted a tougher sort of love since 2000. That's when criminal background checks, finger printing, detailed questionnaires, and careful policies – such as never having children and adults "one-on-one" – kicked into gear. It's a necessity with 700 to 800 children showing up for Sunday School and many more for other church activities during the week, he says.
"We have fingerprinting and a criminal background check for anyone over age 18 that works with children," says the Rev. Maitha. "If it comes back with a blemish, they're not working with kids. That's all there is to it."
Debby DeBernardi, director of Grace Community's children's ministry, says church policies require, for instance, that adults go in pairs when supervising bathroom breaks for children and that they check to ensure no adults are in the bathrooms, before children enter.
Fingerprints for Sunday school
Men who've been screened and fingerprinted may work in the nursery. But only female staff members – not volunteers – may change diapers. Only adults wearing an identity badge that indicates they've been cleared may work with children – and photo IDs are coming soon. Some long-time volunteers, offended by all the new policies, have bowed out of children's activities.
But the new procedures have already proven their worth, Ms. DeBernardi says. "We did have someone already apply who had a police file and had been accused of child molestation. Because of our new procedures, we caught it.... Sometimes you have to bring people in and say, 'Look, you're welcome to come to the church, we love |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 283256 4/10/2008 9:55 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote | Thats why millions have been killed for Christ! All you fucking retards point to another religion as evil and deadly yet you fail to see or acknowledge your own history and its shortcomings. Organized religion is nothing but brainwashing and crowd control for the masses. Jesus would be shocked at what has been done in 'his name' and the perversions that pass as 'christian' these days. From idol worship (the cross) to usery and quite literally worshipping money to outright murder because 'they are not christian' can in no way be ignored while professing to be 'christian' yet it always is and that is why it is destined to fail, just like temporal 'governments' always end up corrupted and eventually fall. The US is way past its due date for such an event and if people would bother to pay attention instead of being distracted by 'american idol' and those bs 'reality' shows and the illusory shows of what people think cops and doctors should be like (but never measure up in the real world) then you might begin to understand how you have been used, manipulated and enslaved to serve. Only then can you truly be free and begin to walk the walk of Christ's instructions. If you need some televangelist to tell you what the bible means then your heart is already lost. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428273 5/7/2008 6:58 PM | | Re: Why Christians are smart | Quote |
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Sara-Ka-El  Swimmer (The Butterfly) User ID: 326961 5/7/2008 6:59 PM
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Christians have been getting saved and filled with the holy spirit of Jesus for almost 2000 years since the Book of Acts 2:1-.Millions of people since then have been getting words,visions,gifts of the spirit,supernatural revelation,impartations...and we really dont expect those who havent to believe it until it happens to you.Jesus said you wouldnt beleive unless you see it.But greater are they who beleive by faith he said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 410944 Truth is a Stranger to Fiction
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