this does not prove that the flood did it

Is that your science evidence, because ipresented the flood earlier, still unrefuted. Saying "no it doesn't" is not evidence.

dated by other methods too. Distance, speed of light, size, movement.

We'll go by dating methods reproducible in a lab, not alleged stellar theory. The stars moved in the past whether it was big bang or creation, and neither were observed. They cannot be used to date anything, nor are they needed.

But the results are the same anyway whoever says it!

Because someone says so is not proof, evidence is proof. Words in a book are not. I believe you said the same thing about the Bible. Evidence of young earth has been shown with pics showing flood sediment deposites. Until you tell me how the layers of the earth came to be with no erosion between layers, how the universal chalk layer happened, and how polystrate fossils happen the earth is young and all uniformitarian dating methods are flawed.

Fossils? I dont understand. So there were dinosaurs walking around before the flood? why didnt Noah save them?

I've already typed this four times this thread. Animals cannot lay on the ground or in the ocean without decay and consumption by weather and pest. The ONLY way to get fossils is to be buried in flood sediment immediately. No fossils are being made today, unless they get burried in a flood.

Yes, the dinos were preflood and it has been theorized by Dr. Dino they did make the Ark, as a small hatchling.

Evolution happens over a very long time, trying to monitor it in our time-scales is fruitless.

It has never been observed, not even in fruit flies, and they've tried. The great time periods allegedly needed for evolution do not exist.

I understand the basic fact that the Gospels were written by men. Then they were selected by men to be part of the Bible, bits were left out, some were classed as heresy and what remains is classed as the word of God. Also, this 'word of God' has been allowed to be changed over time and revised, compacted etc. Ever heard of Chinese whispers?

Four different accounts from four different perspectives
[link to www.carm.org]
What constitutes the Bible was well established before the RCC, leaving out the counterfit gnostics. The gnostic works were well known and even mentioned in the Bible, as well as Simon Peter who taught them and later went to Rome forming the RCC.
The Bible devotes much to false Christianity (Whore rides the Beast ect.)
[link to www.keyway.ca]
[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]


I beleive what seems to be the most prominent.....

Ths majority are always wrong. There is no voting on science, we need evidence to determine science.(not a vote)

I dont understand this.

I know the truth escapes you with blinders on.